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You're welcome; it's

artappraiser — Sat, 05 Feb 2011 00:30:12 +0000

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You're welcome; it's interesting to know that you're pondering on the issue. (Yeah, the article itself is lightweight. As a long time reader of the Observer, I am sensing an invisible editor behind this, as in an assignment that didn't exactly deliver, that they sense changes they want to report but can't find anyone to sum it well.)

Edit to add: it would be interesting to know if HuffPo is plateau-ing even as they try harder and harder to get more and more audiences. They certainly go with whatever is hot in the majority population as far as home page. But then in all the different sub-categories, they seem try to be all things to all people; i.e. Kardashian/National Enquirer/Hollywood and egghead foreign policy op-eds.

More or less in the same

jollyroger — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 23:38:36 +0000

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More or less in the same vein, TMcarthy has volunteered to acquire, and then flash, Marilyn Monroe's boobs...I'm thinkin'...calendar? And, of course, since we are not sexist here, and we have, by happy circumstance, strippers of both sexes in our ranks (ahem) we can go with 6 & 6. I just know Resistance will drop'em for the cause...Hell, Destor is half way there, by way of avatar...

(more Kardashian pics)

Donal — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 23:15:27 +0000

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(more Kardashian pics)

Thanks for this link, AA. I

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:33:00 +0000

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Thanks for this link, AA. I find the topic to be fascinating and the article itself to be muddled. How exactly does the author define classic blogging, and how does he define the contemporary replacements?

My perception is that Clive Thompson of Wired had it right. The classic blog post is a link followed by a few sentences of wry commentary. TPM exemplified this format and I think still does, though Josh has put a lot of resources into supplementing this format with original reporting.

I've never felt that TPM Cafe or dagblog, which inherits from the Cafe, was a traditional blog. We've always emphasized long-form opinion and commentary over aggregation--more FDL than Gawker.

While long-form op-ed may not have to compete with Twitter, the market is nonetheless saturated, and I'm wondering about the best way to go from here. We've got a decent audience and a very loyal community, but growth has plateaued since the election. There are some obvious search engine optimization steps that we intend to take, but I'm pondering about the other ways to raise our profile.

I should add to note the

artappraiser — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:23:59 +0000

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I should add to note the description of the site where destor just got a job as a columnist (which Genghis did a humorous post about.) Not to suggest that Murdoch is so savvy about these matters anymore, after all purchasing My Space was a big boo-boo....

Maybe to be ahead, means

Resistance — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:21:41 +0000

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Maybe to be ahead, means being in control?

Even good ideas needs a representative?

I have no answers for you. I

artappraiser — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:12:55 +0000

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I have no answers for you. I just posted this because I know that the Observer is the main trade rag of the media biz in NYC and have made it their business to be ahead of this kind of trend for quite a few years (or they themselves would be out of biz), and they put this on their print edition cover this week. Thought it might even be of interest to some of the proprietors of this site.

Sometimes it's a matter that

Resistance — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:11:05 +0000

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Sometimes it's a matter that you have a scoop

That's what I liked about TPM,

The bloggers themselves were the eyes and ears, the bloggers were getttng the scoops.

The bloggers were the Assanges.

Let that be the reason I

jollyroger — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:50:36 +0000

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Let that be the reason I check it out which I have not done before...thanks for the headsup. I thought Golis was pretty cool.

Josh Marshall's opinion, from

artappraiser — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:46:00 +0000

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Josh Marshall's opinion, from the article:

Some of these have been bullish on old-school scoops. Yahoo recently put together a whiz-bang team of reporters for its Upshot news blog, which regularly furthers stories with new details. It's a model that's been pursued by Talking Points Memo's Josh Marshall from early on in the lifespan of his Polk Award-winning site and one that he's pushed aggressively, to the point where he's been outspoken in his recent decision to stop calling the site a blog at all. He now relegates the opinion-heavy personal posts, more in keeping with what he used to do in the early days, to the "editors blog" section.

"Over time, by design, the news section has grown dramatically, and the blog section is pretty much what it always was in terms of volume and in terms of footprint on the page," Mr. Marshall told The Observer. "It makes you a destination site. At a lot of different levels, you have stuff that no one else has. Sometimes it's a matter that you have a scoop or it's a matter that you have a consistent focus on a story that a lot of other people don't have."

A reminder that the Yahoo Upshot news is a project of Andrew Golis, formerly of TPM.