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Let Republicans try this all

Osori — Wed, 09 Mar 2011 19:45:08 +0000

Let Republicans try this all they want. It's not simply a stunt one can pull off if one merely has the guts. No. It requires a massive swelling of public opinion on one's side to make it work. Done without such unique circumstances and those in exile would be committing political suicide, as independents and fence sitters would abandon them in droves. Republicans acting as if this were the new precedent will do so at their peril. Can you imagine how well it would look to see Reps flee so as to block a raising of the tax on the highest income bracket to Reagan era levels? Yeah, by all means, let them go right ahead and do that.

Walker's failing numbers and his moves towards compromise prove that the Dem 14 were right, right meaning "reflecting the will of the citizenry."

Winning an election doesn't mean you have carte blanche to pass any damn law you please, as long as it is legal. It means you get to try and pass those laws, exposing them the rigors of parliamentary procedure. The exertion of public opinion doesn't begin and end at the ballot box. Such is an extremely impoverished view of democracy, a view that is, undoubtedly, not carrying the day here in Wisconsin. Thank god.

ABC’s This Week Governors

artappraiser — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:52:13 +0000

In reply to Democrats, Don't Run Away

ABC’s This Week Governors Panel Gangs Up on ‘Cowardly’ Wisconsin Democrats

by Tommy Christopher | 1:10 pm, February 27th, 2011

video

Viewers of Sunday’s This Week were treated to a powerhouse All-Gubernatorial round table consisting of Gov. Jan Brewer (R-AZ), Gov. Deval Patrick (D-MA), Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO), and Gov. Nikki Haley (R-SC), all moderated by popular fill-in Jake Tapper. Although the panel was ideologically mixed, you might not have known that given their response to this question: “Don’t you think it’s a little cowardly for the legislators — Democratic legislators in Indiana and Wisconsin just to have fled?”

....Whether you agree with it or not, the Democratic legislators in Wisconsin (and later, Indiana) have a strong rationale for their actions that doesn’t include “cowardice,” yet the Democratic governors on This Week’s panel declined numerous invitations to defend their disobedient comrades.....

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/this-week-governors-panel-gangs-up-on-cowardl...

But Abe Lincoln was a

Gregor Zap — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:59:00 +0000

In reply to In no way is this a novel

But Abe Lincoln was a Republican. That's different!

The Governor gets his year to

Gregor Zap — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 07:56:57 +0000

In reply to I agree with much of what you

The Governor gets his year to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he is not worthy to lead the State of Wisconsin, but there are GOP Reps and Senators that have been in office more then a year who can be recalled. Chip away, Wisonsin, chip away. They can only pass the legislation they propose with a majority. A majority present behavior may prove to be undeserved. There is good cause for the people on the Right to reject their behavior. Especially now that they have shown themselves to be so callously indifferent to the plight of the people in the state. When all is said and done, cutting the state employees makes services even more difficult to obtain for both the Left and the Right. When the people on the Right go to get their plates renewed and they can't get to the window for several hours they may realize they've cut off their own noses.

The Assembly Dems are indeed

madisonwi — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:59:40 +0000

In reply to So, Genghis, how democratic

The Assembly Dems are indeed pursuing invalidating that vote. The Repubs just keep trotting out the same old bs about how they're only trying to save our state from fiscal ruin.

Thank you for your words of

madisonwi — Sun, 27 Feb 2011 00:20:26 +0000

In reply to God bless you madisonwi!

Thank you for your words of encouragement. I won't keep commenting off topic, but I've been at the Capitol for most of the protests, and have never seen anything like it. At the last meeting of all the bargaining units of my union (I'm an educational assistant), an African-American teacher said she had once missed a month of school because the Chicago public school teachers were on strike. She said she asked her dad why the teachers were on strike, and he said, "They must just not want to lie down like dogs." I don't mean any insult to dogs, but her words have stayed with me throughout the last two gut-churning weeks. Perhaps that sentiment applies to the Fab 14 too.

Brillant! Good to see you're

Saladin — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:10:52 +0000

In reply to embrace of taking a knife to

Brillant! Good to see you're as sharp as ever. I suspect I will visit more often. I am curious, does the one-eyed queen ever drop by?

That's a great video. Thanks

Saladin — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:07:39 +0000

In reply to Mass decompensating isn't

That's a great video. Thanks for sharing.

7.Oh wait. Which end is up?

quinn esq — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:17:57 +0000

In reply to C'mon man, be better

Oh wait. Which end is up?

If the will of the people is

Verified Atheist — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:08:25 +0000

In reply to Of course this brings up a

If the will of the people is not always inherently correct, who decides when it is good thing and when it is a bad thing?

It's absolutely a problem, but there's a simple answer: me. I decide when it's a good thing, and when it's a bad thing. In all seriousness, part of the beauty of these "tricks" that allow the minority (but usually a sizable minority) to circumvent the "will of the people" is that they require some inconvenience on the part of that minority. In short, the bigger that inconvenience, the more I support that "trick". Again, though, ultimately it just boils down to whether I think it's a good idea. :P