dagblog - Comments for "Bill Gates speaks truth: "Those anti-vaccine efforts -- they kill children""

What's up? Multiple postings,

Satan — Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:08:30 +0000

What's up?

Multiple postings, fer sure. I never shoulda' cancelled my AOL--this new browser is hellish hard...and the captcha, fuhgeddaboudit

Kewl. Satan is posting.

bwakfat — Thu, 14 Jul 2011 02:00:06 +0000

In reply to I have a question for you

Kewl. Satan is posting. That'll put a feather in the cap of the dagblog.

So dude, what's up?

I have a question for you

Satan — Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:45:38 +0000

In reply to First of all tmccarthy if you

I have a question for you Ken. Would understand how to read any study sent your way? You actually do not know how vaccines work and you think anybody takes you seriously? There is a video online of a toddler dyeing of whooping cough due to the loss of herd immunity. Then keep on with your stupid ill informed bullshit. Tell me Ken what is the scientific method is and how it works? STFU go in the corner and play with yourself and let the adults take care of things. You sir are an absolute stupid fuck.

You are a hilarious troll...

tmccarthy0 — Thu, 19 May 2011 14:02:10 +0000

In reply to First of all tmccarthy if you

You are a hilarious troll... what do you mean, am I a real person? What a stupid response.

There is adequate proof vaccines work.

Do we have outbreaks of polio in the US any longer? Oh right, no we don't.

Vaccines help prevent infectious diseases and save lives. Vaccines are responsible for the control of many infectious diseases that were once common in this country, including polio, measles, diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), rubella (German measles), mumps, tetanus, small pox, and Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib).

Each child is born with a full immune system composed of cells, glands, organs, and fluids that are located throughout his or her body to fight invading bacteria and viruses. The immune system recognizes germs that enter the body as "foreign" invaders, or antigens, and produces protein substances called antibodies to fight them. A normal, healthy immune system has the ability to produce millions of these antibodies to defend against thousands of attacks every day, doing it so naturally that people are not even aware they are being attacked and defended so often (Whitney, 1990). Many antibodies disappear once they have destroyed the invading antigens, but the cells involved in antibody production remain and become "memory cells." Memory cells remember the original antigen and then defend against it when the antigen attempts to re-infect a person, even after many decades. This protection is called immunity.

Vaccines contain the same antigens or parts of antigens that cause diseases, but the antigens in vaccines are either killed or greatly weakened. When they are injected into fatty tissue or muscle, vaccine antigens are not strong enough to produce the symptoms and signs of the disease but are strong enough for the immune system to produce antibodies against them (Tortora and Anagnostakos, 1981). The memory cells that remain prevent re-infection when they encounter that disease in the future. Thus, through vaccination, children develop immunity without suffering from the actual diseases that vaccines prevent.

There is an overwhelming amount of data proving that vaccines do work. Now put your evidence out here, your data, your actual evidence that can be replicated by reputable scientists.

Good luck with your anti-science vendetta. It is strange to me, that on faith you take the word of the unlearned, and ignore the massive data supporting efficacy of vaccines.

First of all tmccarthy if you

Ken O'Toole — Thu, 19 May 2011 12:53:07 +0000

In reply to Wolfy, you are exactly

First of all tmccarthy if you are a real person I would be very suprised. I could go an an ignorant diatribe countering your ignorant diatribe.. but I will ask you two questions: Please bring forward one scientific case study that shows a vaccine ever worked… this should be easy for you, but it has to be are real case study, not some generic estimates from the CDC or WHO… Secondly, if these vaccinations work and actually protect babies from ‘death’ (and not just the opposite), why, (you have to answer this) don’t doctors themselves (ones with functioning brain cells) vaccinate their own children? If you can’t at least put forward some effort in researching these two questions and reply with factual based evidence, then don’t reply… do yourself and the world a favor and keep your ignorance to yourself.

Have you; logged out and

Resistance — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:08:16 +0000

In reply to LOL! It wasn't my idea to

Have you; logged out and then try reregistering?

Sorry if I misunderstood,

acanuck — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 02:11:21 +0000

In reply to LOL! It wasn't my idea to

Sorry if I misunderstood, stardust. I never considered a doctor might have given such advice. As for the SPAM thing, are you on a really small ISP, like a bandwidth reseller? Sometimes a single spammer can get every other client blocked. Get on your ISP's case about cleaning up their act, and if they don't (and there's an alternative in your area) change providers.

LOL! It wasn't my idea to

Anonymous stardust — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:05:26 +0000

In reply to I'm shocked to learn that you

LOL! It wasn't my idea to 'self medicate'! And there was plenty of info that the flu vaccine manufacturers helped gin up the fear. (Short becaue every time I try to comment, I'm told I am SPAM. sound familiar?) ;o)

I'm shocked to learn that you

acanuck — Fri, 04 Mar 2011 00:23:47 +0000

In reply to My daughter couldn't have

I'm shocked to learn that you repeatedly self-medicated with the smallpox vaccine for a purpose it was never designed for, stardust. You surely realize that any bad side-effects are not a knock against the vaccine. The eradication of smallpox has saved about 100 million lives in the past quarter-century, and will go on saving that many at that rate indefinitely into the future. Same goes for the polio vaccine, which each year comes ever closer to eradicating that scourge. We're down to under 1,000 cases a year worldwide.

As for the recent fears of bird-swine flu, yes, it wasn't a repeat of 1918's Spanish flu pandemic. Its virulence may have been overestimated. But thousands of people did catch it, and did die from it. Part of what may have kept the final toll down was that large numbers did get vaccinated for it. Many more would have died if the vaccine had not been available.

My daughter couldn't have

Anonymous stardust — Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:47:36 +0000

In reply to So my doctor didn't tell me

My daughter couldn't have rubella shots because she had seizures; I gave myself smallpox vaccinations for twenty-five years to prevent cold sores; now they tell me they will give me cancer. I worked on people who got Guillain-Barre from swine flu vaccine and were paralyzed for years. How many of the shots for the last flu epidemic went wrong, and how much did the manufacturers make in the meantime, and no epidemic, but plenty of panic.

So get your kids the shots, but do it with your eyes open, and tell the docs about any medical history that might be a contraindication . Some come with risks. I was half glad my kids were foster kids before we adopted them: we weren't allowed to decide--the county did.