dagblog - Comments for "Michigan under threat of Dictatorship. NOW can we panic?" http://dagblog.com/politics/michigan-under-threat-dictatorship-now-can-we-panic-9399 Comments for "Michigan under threat of Dictatorship. NOW can we panic?" en Thanks. One of Synder's http://dagblog.com/comment/116916#comment-116916 <a id="comment-116916"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116912#comment-116912">Thanks for your support. </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks. One of Synder's miscalculations is the seasonal aspect. The snow is melting, the fish will soon be jumping up in the Straits, then the blueberries and cherries--what a wonderful time to be there in the summer, living out of my van, fishing, going to marches. Then drop down to Ohio and work on the recall. Can't wait. Maybe a dagblog retreat.</p></div></div></div> Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:18:24 +0000 Oxy Mora comment 116916 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for your support.  http://dagblog.com/comment/116912#comment-116912 <a id="comment-116912"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116909#comment-116909">Dreamer, nothing has gotten</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for your support.  Michigan welcomes your concern!  If you haven't seen my latest on our troubles, you might want to read it: <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/were-michigan-and-most-us-dont-deserve-9973"> http://dagblog.com/politics/were-michigan-and-most-us-dont-deserve-9973</a></p></div></div></div> Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:53:22 +0000 Ramona comment 116912 at http://dagblog.com Thanks so much, Amy.  I'll be http://dagblog.com/comment/116911#comment-116911 <a id="comment-116911"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116907#comment-116907">Repost at will. :)  By the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks so much, Amy.  I'll be posting it soon.</p></div></div></div> Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:51:30 +0000 Ramona comment 116911 at http://dagblog.com Dreamer, nothing has gotten http://dagblog.com/comment/116909#comment-116909 <a id="comment-116909"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/111503#comment-111503">The governor of Michigan,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Dreamer, nothing has gotten under my skin more than what's happening in Michigan, especially in the town Benton Harbor, which has a very high black population.</p> <p>I'm a distance from Michigan, but I missed the civil rigthts marches and I'm about to pack the car and head out there.</p> <p>The absolute arrogance of Snyder is unprecedented, even in the Republican party.</p> <p>The Republican governors obviously got together and plotted these extreme moves in the hopes of killing off the base of the Democratic Party before they could recover from their losses in 2010.</p> <p>Well, guess what, they woke the sleeping giant. </p> <p> </p></div></div></div> Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:45:43 +0000 Oxy Mora comment 116909 at http://dagblog.com Repost at will. :)  By the http://dagblog.com/comment/116907#comment-116907 <a id="comment-116907"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116833#comment-116833">Wow, Amy, that is really</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Repost at will. :)  By the way, if anyone does the research and can prove me wrong, I'd appreciate it. I do not WANT to be correct, although I fear I am.</p></div></div></div> Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:21:46 +0000 amyattorney comment 116907 at http://dagblog.com Wow, Amy, that is really http://dagblog.com/comment/116833#comment-116833 <a id="comment-116833"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116825#comment-116825">Ramona: Wow, I love seeing my</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Wow, Amy, that is really important information.  Thank you SO much.  Would you consider either putting it into a post here or allowing me to post it?  It needs to see the light of day someplace other than in a comment on a blog post.  It actually would also be pertinent to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/were-michigan-and-most-us-dont-deserve-9973">the one I posted today</a>. </p><p> </p></div></div></div> Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:52:28 +0000 Ramona comment 116833 at http://dagblog.com Ramona: Wow, I love seeing my http://dagblog.com/comment/116825#comment-116825 <a id="comment-116825"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/110556#comment-110556">I&#039;ve been thinking more</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Ramona:</p> <p>Wow, I love seeing my writing cross-posted!  ;)</p> <p>Yes, that is indeed exactly what I'm saying. <br /><br />Among the other powers granted them recently, the EFMs now have the power to disincorporate a township. The Act makes no distinction between "land" or "legal" townships (also called "survey townships" or "Congressional townships"), on the one hand, and "political" townships (akin to a city, village, etc.), on the other - it just says "township". If you own real estate in Michigan (or any Northwest Ordinance state - MI, WI, OH, IN, IL), pull out your deed or mortgage, and read the legal description of the land. You'll see it's described in terms of sections of ranges and TOWNSHIPS. Those are "land" or "legal" townships. The Township of Benton Harbor, which recently made the news as the first area in Michigan where an EFM essentially rendered all of the elected officials powerless (also a new power), is a "political" township.<br /><br />On July 13, 1787, the Confederation Congress passed the Northwest Ordinance ("the NWO"). The NWO created a system of government for the Northwest Territory (which became the states listed above). It also specified how the various parts of the Northwest Territory could become states. Earlier legislation, such as the Ordinance of 1784 and the Land Ordinance of 1785, had only said that the territory would someday become states and had described how the federal government would sell the land to private citizens. The Land Ordinance created the pattern along which American public land would be divided and sold until the passage of the Homestead Act in 1862. The Ordinance of 1785 ruled that the western lands north of the Ohio River would be divided by surveyors into a square grid. Because these federal statutes had related subjects and relatively similar names, in later years "Northwest Ordinance" became a sort of shorthand for all of them.<br /><br />Under the system created for legal descriptions of land - still used today - each survey township measures six by six miles and is subdivided into thirty-six one-mile-square sections. Each section (measuring 640 acres) could then be further divided, usually into half, quarter, eighth, or sixteenth-section lots of 320, 160, 80, or 40 acres. Certain sections had restrictions placed on their sales; for instance, money from the sixteenth section of every township was to be set aside to fund public schools in the township. Many schools today are still located in section sixteen of their respective townships, although a great many of the school sections were sold to raise money for public education. In later States, section 36 of each township was also designated as a "school section".<br /><br />The first territorial survey took place in what is now southeastern Ohio, and it measured land that stretched westward from Little Beaver Creek to the Tuscarawas River and southward to the Ohio River. A total of about 91 townships were created (although some of them were fractional and did not contain a full 36 sections), with about 3,276 sections comprising 2,096,640 acres of land ready for development by U.S. farmers. A one quarter-section of land was the amount allocated to each settler. Stemming from this are the idiomatic expressions, "the lower 40", which is the 40 acres (160,000 m2) on a settler's land that is lowest in elevation, in the direction towards which water drains toward a stream, and the "back forty", the portion farthest from the settler's dwelling.<br /><br />So, if a survey township is disincorporated, your deed now describes...nothing.<br /><br />Also, the EFMs are now empowered to tear up ANY contract - not just collective bargaining or other employment contracts.  From the Act (MI Pub. Act No. 4, 2011):</p> <blockquote> <p>Sec. 19. (1) An emergency manager may take 1 or more of the following additional actions with respect to a local government which is in receivership, notwithstanding any charter provision to the contrary: ...<br /><br />(j) Reject, modify, or terminate 1 or more terms and conditions of an <strong>existing contract.</strong></p></blockquote> <p>-----<br /><br />Contrast that language with the following sub-section, which reads (in pertinent part):<br /><br />----</p> <p>(k) After meeting and conferring with the appropriate bargaining representative and, if in the emergency manager’s sole discretion and judgment, a prompt and satisfactory resolution is unlikely to be obtained, reject, modify, or terminate 1 or more terms and conditions of an <strong>existing collective bargaining agreement.</strong><br /><br />----<br /><br />The legislature is presumed to understand the terms it uses, and to have selected its terms carefully; thus, when it says "contract" in subsection j, but "collective bargaining agreement" in subsection k, rest assured, it means two very different things.<br /><br />Deeds are contracts if consideration is paid for the land (they are quasi-contracts if the deed is gifting land - one of the few quasi-contractual agreements allowed under law). Mortgages are contracts, as well.<br /><br />So, once your deed/mortgage contract is useless and/or terminated, the EFM can seize your land. You can't prove that you own it, because even if you still have the deed/mortgage, the survey plats on which the legal description is based are invalid. So much for an eminent domain claim to at least get paid for the seizure.<br /><br />It's probably a violation of federal law - the NWO, as well as the 5th and 14th Amendments (eminent domain), but private citizens have no power to sue to enforce the NWO, and, as noted, how do you prove your eminent domain claim without a valid legal survey of the land? You can't.<br /><br />One other thing: disincorporating a township does NOTHING to get rid of the township's debt, which is what the Republicans claim is the whole point of the law. (It's not about the budget.) Plus, we already HAVE a means of ridding municipalities of debt they can't handle - it's called Chapter 9 bankruptcy!</p> <p>-amyattorney</p></div></div></div> Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:52:55 +0000 amyattorney comment 116825 at http://dagblog.com The governor of Michigan, http://dagblog.com/comment/111503#comment-111503 <a id="comment-111503"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/michigan-under-threat-dictatorship-now-can-we-panic-9399">Michigan under threat of Dictatorship. NOW can we panic?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>The governor of <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20110217/NEWS15/110217023/Michigan-Gov-Rick-Snyder-proposes-huge-business-tax-spending-cuts-cites-need-tough-decisions-">Michigan, Rick Snyder, is lowering taxes on businesses </a>while increasing taxes on poor and working-class people. Snyder plans to cut business taxes by 86 percent, which will cost the state nearly $2 billion in revenues. He will make up the difference by raising personal income taxes and hiking the rates on the lowest earners (but not the richest!). If a town or school district faces a deficit because of the state's reckless tax cuts for business, then the governor will have the power to remove the elected government and replace it with an emergency financial manager, empowered to break any and all contracts and rule by decree. As <a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/erikkain/2011/03/11/michigan-governor-plays-fast-and-loose-with-democracy-invokes-radical-new-powers/">E.D. Kain wrote</a> in <em>Forbes</em> online, why are there no protests from the Tea Party or Fox News about these big-government policies in Lansing that suspend democracy? There is a word for this kind of anti-democratic collaboration between business and government, but we haven't used it much since the 1940s: fascism.</p></blockquote> <p>From Diane Ravitch's latest post, "An Age of Hypocrisy", at:</p> <p><a href="http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/Bridging-Differences/2011/03/an_age_of_hypocrisy.html">http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/Bridging-Differences/2011/03/an_age_of_hypocrisy.html</a></p></div></div></div> Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:06:31 +0000 AmericanDreamer comment 111503 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for commenting, Kim.  http://dagblog.com/comment/110754#comment-110754 <a id="comment-110754"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/110690#comment-110690">fight the good fight!  we are</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for commenting, Kim.  We are all in this together and we have to work hard to stay that way.  We need our voices to be heard loud and clear, and the more of us the better.</p></div></div></div> Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:57:11 +0000 Ramona comment 110754 at http://dagblog.com fight the good fight!  we are http://dagblog.com/comment/110690#comment-110690 <a id="comment-110690"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/michigan-under-threat-dictatorship-now-can-we-panic-9399">Michigan under threat of Dictatorship. NOW can we panic?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>fight the good fight!  we are all in solidarity...we are continuing our fight in wisconsin!!  we will not back down....."they" are disregarding democracy....it is about the people!</p></div></div></div> Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:59:43 +0000 Kim comment 110690 at http://dagblog.com