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Sad how much they play us for

Desider — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:34:33 +0000

In reply to Just because I was skeptical

Sad how much they play us for suckers even when we try to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But even sadder to think these same people probably wouldn't support a peaceful protest in the US because it would threaten the sanctity and stability of a bank somewhere.

(At least that was the attitude both in Bahrain and the US (Wall Street) bailout)

Just because I was skeptical

Verified Atheist — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:30:00 +0000

In reply to Ha, and then Gates says, "no

Just because I was skeptical that anyone could be that tone deaf, I had to ask the holy Google if you were just messing with me. Alas, you were not.

Gates says no one thought the assault would last only two or three weeks, but he could not say how the coalition operation might be resolved.

Ha, and then Gates says, "no

Desider — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:25:35 +0000

In reply to Starting to understand "hope,

Ha, and then Gates says, "no one thought this would be done in 1 week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks...."

Starting to understand "hope,

Desider — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:39:41 +0000

In reply to How long do you envision this

Starting to understand "hope, then change..."

How long do you envision this

Verified Atheist — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:49:19 +0000

In reply to How long do you envision this

How long do you envision this going on? We aren't invading anyone. The event horizon given is "days, not weeks".

It seems that we're already shifting to "weeks, not months". I hope that's the last shift.

BTW: >1500 glorious

kgb999 — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:39:46 +0000

In reply to Personally, I'm loving how

BTW: >1500 glorious views!!1!1!!!!!!

:-)

Despite your consistent

kgb999 — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 20:28:43 +0000

In reply to Personally, I'm loving how

Despite your consistent assertions to the contrary, words have specific meaning. That's the mechanism by which language is employed to convey ideas without confusion.

If those kids used a potato gun and shot out all your windows or dropped grenades down your chimney but never tried to enter your home, it would not be a home invasion it would be an assault or an attack.

If you want to oppose the intervention entirely, fine. If you just want to bitch because the US didn't sit out (thereby increasing the likelihood Canadians would be killed as they enthusiastically enforce the no-fly zone their government pushed for), fine. But at least be intellectually honest about the situation you are opposing.

I find it difficult to believe you are genuinely ignorant of linguistics or confused over the meaning of words ... playing dumb is a shitty way to advance an argument.

UN resolutions are very

acanuck — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:43:58 +0000

In reply to Let's just say Resolution

UN resolutions are very carefully crafted, down to the placement of commas. There are agreed meanings for such words as "reiterating, recalling, noting, urging, demanding, ordering," etc.

Bush, Cheney and a reluctant Colin Powell wanted (and legally needed) Security Council authority for an invasion. They very explicitly didn't get it. Res. 1441 says the Council "remains seized of the matter," i.e. we'll decide where this goes from here. Secretary-General Kofi Annan bluntly stated in 2004 the war in Iraq was an "illegal act that contravened the UN charter." In less polite terms, a war crime.

The U.S. claimed to be acting to enforce the will of the UN but, like the claim of WMDs, that was a lie.

Have you seen this story?

we are stardust — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:16:14 +0000

In reply to Personally, I'm loving how

Have you seen this story?

Personally, I'm loving how

quinn esq — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 17:57:43 +0000

In reply to Not sure what you mean - we

Personally, I'm loving how "bombing" is somehow not "invasion." Not a comment aimed at kgb, just a general one, on the language. I mean, kids crashing through my front door would be a "home invasion" but if they dropped laser-guided concussion grenades down my chimney (LAZORS!!!1) then it wouldn't be? What would that be? A "home no-fly zone?"

It's all so confusing.

And also, LAZORS!!!1