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Emptrywheel discusses the

we are stardust — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:34:52 +0000

In reply to Billion-dollar FBI System for Bio-Matrix ID, Next Step in Security State [updated with video]

Emptrywheel discusses the Obama memo concerning delaying Miranda notification, and the abuse potential by the FBI, et.al.:

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/03/25/the-abu-zubaydah-standard-in-obamas-miranda-memo/

You're probably right, even

we are stardust — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:47:06 +0000

In reply to I was merely pondering the

You're probably right, even if it weren't planned, but is now exploited. Though sometimes it seems America Idol is almost enough diversion/narcotic for most. I swear, when I tune into network teevee, it seems like I live on a different planet than a large segment of the population. The shit we choose to care about!

Another fine mess we've

we are stardust — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:42:03 +0000

In reply to bright line between

Another fine mess we've gotten ourselves into! ;o) (Cue Stan and Ollie...)

I was merely pondering the

Watt Childress — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:19:02 +0000

In reply to I'm not sure I'm taking your

I was merely pondering the disparity between government's increased scrutiny of our private lives and its continued neglect of the hazardous business dealings of corporations. Just wondering whether the former might serve as a psychological diversion from the dire consequences of the latter.

bright line between

jollyroger — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:07:49 +0000

In reply to I'm not sure I'm taking your

bright line between corporations and the governments

Well, there is one. When the government wants to do something that would require it to get a warrant, it goes to the corporations for ad hoc help, guaranteeing, of course, post facto absolution if things go south.

No, I can't imagine the

Watt Childress — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 04:58:04 +0000

In reply to Think about it, Watt. Can you

No, I can't imagine the Kochs, Armey and their followers standing up for rights to privacy or other key pillars of freedom. I do think the libertarians are less apt to follow those forces when it comes to said abuses. Do libertarians hold much sway with the "conservative" movement and the Tea Party? I don't know, But it is noteworthy that Ron Paul continues to have a strong following.

I'm not sure I'm taking your

we are stardust — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:47:06 +0000

In reply to It's clear that some of the

I'm not sure I'm taking your meaning exactly, but there doesn't seem to be much of a bright line between corporations and the governments any longer, either federal or now in many states. It's clear that's been true for decades with our foreign military misadventures, but now in vastly more arenas.

Unwinding it ever seems like an almost insurmountable task some days.

Re: the Nobel Peace Prize for

we are stardust — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:39:29 +0000

In reply to Think about it, Watt. Can you

Re: the Nobel Peace Prize for Obama:

A cranky man living in Iraq recently posted a diary at My,fdl with the text of part of his Cairo speech printed upside-down, obviously with the meaning that Obama's foreign policy has been the upside-down (reverse, converse, obverse; I always forget the terms) of those statements. Now I grant you that Doc Cleveland said here that his Libyan actions exactly matched the speech, but I don't see it.

And Dick Cheney has been very complimentary of the ways that Obama has proceeded to manage to subvert the Constitution in so many ways.

I did just check at antiwar.com, Watt, to see if any Libertarians had written lately on any of these issues, but I didn't see anything. It's the place where the very left can meet the very Libertarian on some issues. ;o) It will be interesting to watch all this unfold, if indeed anyone pays any attention at all. We seem to give away our liberties and privacy easily.

I found this link that kind

Richard Day — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:50:05 +0000

In reply to It's clear that some of the

I found this link that kind of fits into all this.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-25/john-kao-paul-saffo-tim-brown-offer-3-ways-to-reinvent-america/3/

It is a rosy picture of technological changes, but if you read between the lines....

The corps control everything; joining with other corps in pships that take away all of our rights!

Think about it, Watt. Can you

SleepinJeezus — Sat, 26 Mar 2011 19:41:43 +0000

In reply to I think you're right in your

Think about it, Watt. Can you imagine the Kochs and Dick Armey and their bobbleheaded Tea Partiers rising in defense of Brad Manning's Constitutional Rights? I can't see it happening at all. They're too involved in promoting the GWOT, and the only "criticism" I hear of Obama from this quarter is targeted at his ultimate legitimization of Dick Cheney's abuses despite his past comments to the contrary.

"See?" they say with gleeful aplomb. "We told you Dick Cheney was right when he trashed the Constitution and the War Crimes Act to get at our enemies."

The Obama legacy as winner of the Nobel Peace Prize is decidedly horrific in all its implications. Quite frankly, it's indefensible and serves as cause to withhold not only my support but my vote from him as well in the upcoming election. I don't vote for war criminals. Gotta draw the line someplace, and that seems to be a pretty plausible distinction to be made in my choice for President.