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I hope the US leave all the

Anonymous — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:53:44 +0000

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I hope the US leave all the muslim mideast countries. I don't care if oil goes to $10/gallon here. Pull all our troops out and redeploy them on the Mexican border. Then declare a one year vacation for americans and just feed us for free. Stop sending the mideast countries our food and we'll see how long they last there.

Therefore I responded:

Flavius — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 12:29:06 +0000

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Therefore I responded: Sure

I didn't imply that you didn't condemn koran burners because I don't think that.

What I do think is that it's important to fix what can be fixed. We can't prevent non americans from murdering people. We can affect american behavior that increases the probability of such murders. At least in my case I don't think we should decide to do so if it is at a cost to our civil liberties. But I'm interested in considering what can be done.. .

No they won't defend the

NCD — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:44:00 +0000

In reply to The point is not (and will

No they won't defend the right to burn the Koran, or even voice support for easing the Pakistani blasphemy laws frequently used as private vendettas against non-Muslims. The late Punjab moderate Pakistani Muslim leader Salman Tasser had a full clip shot into him in January by one of his security guards, while the rest of the 'security guards' watched and did nothing, all because he supported moderation of the Pakistani blasphemy laws.

Well said indeed.

cmaukonen — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:17:30 +0000

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Well said indeed.

The point is not (and will

mageduley — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:12:54 +0000

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The point is not (and will never be) that some free person spoke, or wrote, or illustrated in such a manner as to inflame the Muslim community. The point is that only the Muslim community is combustible in this way. The controversy over Fitna, like all such controversies, renders one fact about our world especially salient: Muslims appear to be far more concerned about perceived slights to their religion than about the atrocities committed daily in its name. Our accommodation of this psychopathic skewing of priorities has, more and more, taken the form of craven and blinkered acquiescence.
There is an uncanny irony here that many have noticed. The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we will kill you. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced, but this is about as nuanced as it ever gets: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we peaceful Muslims cannot be held responsible for what our less peaceful brothers and sisters do. When they burn your embassies or kidnap and slaughter your journalists, know that we will hold you primarily responsible and will spend the bulk of our energies criticizing you for “racism” and “Islamophobia.”

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/do-we-have-the-right-to-burn-the-koran/

So do you think moderate Muslims will defend the right to burn the koran, bible, torah...?

I don't think that my comment

Bruce Levine — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:46:05 +0000

In reply to Sure. And then?Is that the

I don't think that my comment in any suggests that "koran burners" shouldn't be condemned by all free-thinking people. But even non-Americans who murder people with whatever pretext they might have are responsible for their own actions.

Sure. And then?Is that the

Flavius — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 12:39:37 +0000

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Sure.

And then?

Is that the end of it or should we think about lessons learned ?.

Should Terry Jones do whatever he has a legal right to do, end of story ? Burn another Koran next Sunday? Why not? It's a free country.

Or should he think about whether that's a good idea.? And those with the ability to influence him help him to?.

The reason these people are

Bruce Levine — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:09:46 +0000

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The reason these people are dead is because they were murdered by the people who killed them.

The reason the UN workers are

NCD — Fri, 01 Apr 2011 19:32:55 +0000

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The reason the UN workers are dead is because the US invaded and occupied a country we should never have set foot in, which is stuck in the 13th century, and which is not ready for either free speech or democracy, a place where human life is cheap and violence, intolerance, ignorance, poverty, corruption and hate are rampant. A nutcase in Florida burning a book is enough to light the fuse for these people.

The guy burns the Koran and

Anonymous — Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:27:31 +0000

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The guy burns the Koran and instantaneously people at the UN die... Did any hand intervene or did they die in direct relation to the burning? Did the autopsy reveal that they were burn victims? Or were they slain by insane hate-motivated believers of the Religion of Peace? If you PC idiots cannot tell the difference you're destined to be beheaded along with the rest of the infidels.