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Thing are looking less like

artappraiser — Thu, 07 Apr 2011 03:07:29 +0000

In reply to In Israel, the Roadmap to Peace is Not Paved with Goldstone

Thing are looking less like "forget Goldstone," and more like "forget Israel and Palestine":

http://dagblog.com/link/us-and-saudi-arabia-discuss-iran-meddling-9729

Bomb them all! I kid.

Michael Maiello — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 21:08:59 +0000

In reply to Well sure, I commend

Bomb them all! I kid. Though it tends to be the answer to everything.

No, in this rare case I think

acanuck — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:38:09 +0000

In reply to The opinions expressed in

No, in this rare case I think CNN is onto something.

For those who prefer original sources to glosses, here's the panel of experts' followup report. It starts off pretty slow, but it's what Goldstone based his oped on:

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/16session/A.HRC.16.24_AUV.pdf

The opinions expressed in

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 20:14:14 +0000

In reply to In passing, CNN put this

The opinions expressed in that disclaimer are solely those of CNN.com

In passing, CNN put this

acanuck — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 19:45:30 +0000

In reply to Since it's not part of the

In passing, CNN put this disclaimer at the end of Genghis's column:

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Michael Wolraich.

That's a bit harsh, no? True maybe, but harsh.

Since it's not part of the

acanuck — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 19:43:22 +0000

In reply to Much the same situation

Since it's not part of the republic, Northern Ireland may be spared the worst effects of that country's financial catastrophe. Unionist or Republican, people may finally take some common comfort in being under the British yoke.

More than that, though, I think the average citizen has come to appreciate (and accept as a durable reality) the advantages of peace. Only the worst diehards long for a return to the troubles.

But the Protestant majority only agreed to share the levers of power when it realized long-term demographics were not in its favor. Israelis remain in denial that the same thing is happening there; instead, they've swung right, toward total reliance on military power to prolong the status quo. With no exit strategy, it's ultimately self-defeating.

Mho, every single "Israel is

artappraiser — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 19:31:12 +0000

In reply to With good vibes

Mho, every single "Israel is evil incarnate" type post on the internet works against those needed vibes.One by one, all the demonization, all the little bits help when massed, add up to a powerful group psychological reaction in Israel. It results not just in digging in of heels, but more and more support for aggressive reactions to the smallest threats and more and more support for their right wingers, a vicious circle escalation.

It's ironic because most people on the internet at least understand what trolls can do to normally reasonable people. That they can't see that as a metaphor with what's happened with Israel is a pity.

Much the same situation

Donal — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:32:11 +0000

In reply to I support the unilateral

Much the same situation exists in Northern Ireland. My impression was that Celtic Tiger eased some of the discord as everyone made money, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back again.

With good vibes

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:45:00 +0000

In reply to No, absolutely not, but I

With good vibes

No, absolutely not, but I

Bruce Levine — Wed, 06 Apr 2011 17:20:24 +0000

In reply to So is it the left that they

No, absolutely not, but I think it's important to know what the folks on both sides of the table are thinking. How do you change bad vibes?