dagblog - Comments for "The Full Circle" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/full-circle-9936 Comments for "The Full Circle" en A civil war is the end of a http://dagblog.com/comment/116612#comment-116612 <a id="comment-116612"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116610#comment-116610">Tell those in the American</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A civil war is the end of a community. Ethnic cleansing terminates previous arrangements between people.</p><p>I didn't mean to imply that a struggle within a community couldn't turn into war. Saying there is a difference between the two acts of destruction you place side by side doesn't have to be a move in a zero sum game. </p><p>I was struck by the view of the nun who could see the sculpture as not an attack on what she believes. Jone's symbolic act doesn't permit ambiguity. The rhetoric calls for a kind of tyranny.</p></div></div></div> Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:48:56 +0000 moat comment 116612 at http://dagblog.com Tell your keepers to line http://dagblog.com/comment/116635#comment-116635 <a id="comment-116635"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116458#comment-116458">Well I have a confession to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Tell your keepers to line your cage with newspaper rather than your autograph collection mate.  Save the autographed pics for a special occasion.  ;)</p></div></div></div> Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:07:33 +0000 miguelitoh2o comment 116635 at http://dagblog.com I was simply commenting upon http://dagblog.com/comment/116633#comment-116633 <a id="comment-116633"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116609#comment-116609">The first couple of reads of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I was simply commenting upon blasphemy and icons,</p><p>Free speech and lions</p></div></div></div> Mon, 25 Apr 2011 00:58:29 +0000 Richard Day comment 116633 at http://dagblog.com Tell those in the American http://dagblog.com/comment/116610#comment-116610 <a id="comment-116610"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116588#comment-116588">The vandalism would have been</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Tell those in the American Civil War that a fight within a community isn't a fight to the death.  I could go on with other examples, but I think I've made my point.</p></div></div></div> Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:25:53 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 116610 at http://dagblog.com The first couple of reads of http://dagblog.com/comment/116609#comment-116609 <a id="comment-116609"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116458#comment-116458">Well I have a confession to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The first couple of reads of your post, I saw "I pissed all over my autographed picture of Queen" and I couldn't figure out your internal hostility toward Freddy, Brian and company had to do at all with my post.  At the same time, I wonder...</p></div></div></div> Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:22:43 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 116609 at http://dagblog.com The vandalism would have been http://dagblog.com/comment/116588#comment-116588 <a id="comment-116588"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/full-circle-9936">The Full Circle</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The vandalism would have been a different act if the perpetrators had shouted Allah is Great. The attempt to remove an offensive representation of what one holds to be most important is a fight within a community where declaring war on another religion is a fight to the death.</p><p>The rhetoric of elimination embraces the logic of complete dependency. It requires the complete obliteration of something in order to continue on one's path. The violence is directed outwards but collapses the center from which it is issued.</p><p>So the burning of the text is directed against Islam but is in the most local frame of reference an act of submission by Pastor Jones to the emptiness of his own faith. He has no fire of his own nor fuel to feed it if he did.</p></div></div></div> Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:22:03 +0000 moat comment 116588 at http://dagblog.com The film permits different http://dagblog.com/comment/116479#comment-116479 <a id="comment-116479"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116436#comment-116436">The reason that the human</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The film permits different interpretations.</p><p>One is that occasionally bad people do good things.Or given this religious weekend that could be put that "Sometimes you can be tempted to be good".In the Screwtape Letters the apprentice devil  brags to the devil that he's been able to tempt his earthly target to have an affair. Who responds.</p><blockquote><p>You fool.Don't you realize that lust can turn into love.</p></blockquote><p> </p><p>For another view: Jesus comes upon the crowd preparing to stone the woman caught in adultry and says<em>.</em></p><blockquote><p> "Let whomever is without sin throw the first stone"</p></blockquote><p>Rock whizzes past his ear/</p><p>Jesus</p><p> </p><blockquote><p>" Mom!"</p></blockquote></div></div></div> Sat, 23 Apr 2011 19:34:01 +0000 Flavius comment 116479 at http://dagblog.com Well I have a confession to http://dagblog.com/comment/116458#comment-116458 <a id="comment-116458"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/full-circle-9936">The Full Circle</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Well I have a confession to make.</p><p>I pissed all over my autographed picture of the Queen; actually it was not planned. I just became so excited over the Royal Wedding that...</p><p>But my other gun, thank the Good Lord, did not go off into my floorboards...</p><p><a href="http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979252237">http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474979252237</a></p><p> </p></div></div></div> Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:53:56 +0000 Richard Day comment 116458 at http://dagblog.com The reason that the human http://dagblog.com/comment/116436#comment-116436 <a id="comment-116436"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/116418#comment-116418">There&#039;s an infinite number of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The reason that the human condition is infinitely interesting is that if the couple had been assigned another Stasi agent, they may have been inflicted with one who would have continued.  What is it in the this Stasi agent that makes him or her to continue, while that Stasi agent cannot?  One of the facets of <em>Lola Rennt </em>is a couple of scenes that show that how an individual's life goes down different paths because of a slight shift in a single event.  The ole had you not missed that bus ten years ago you would be living an entirely different life in a different place with different people around you, that is if you were still alive.</p><p>We are all called to act.  What exactly the call is telling us to do is up to question.  Artists and others who stand up to the authorities which bring a high likely of reaction by the authorities is one example of the greatest courage. </p><p><img src="http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/05/15/300_tank_080514014816328_wideweb__300x300.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="300" /></p><p>Sometimes the situations are clear cut.  In our society, however, the choices are no so much.  Is participating in the multination corporate system mean we enabling the corruption and crimes against humanity?</p></div></div></div> Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:31:34 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 116436 at http://dagblog.com There's an infinite number of http://dagblog.com/comment/116418#comment-116418 <a id="comment-116418"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/full-circle-9936">The Full Circle</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>There's an infinite number of things we have a right to do that we don't do. We don't block the path of someone running for a train.Even if we could do it with impunity,if the runner is a 100 pound woman and we're a line backer for the Chicago Bears.</p><p>After about the age of 3 we notice that we don't benefit from doing things that make the lives of others unpleasant. What we're done instead, we realize when we're about 4 , is to have used up some energy and time and  w<em>e've nothing to show for it</em>  </p><p>We've deprived ourselves of an opportunity to make our life pleasant by using the time and energy we've devoted to making someone else's life unpleasent. . So we stop.</p><p>In the <span style="color: #ff6600;">Lives of  Others</span> the Stasi operative  doesn't get any benefit from causing a problem for the people he's surveiling. So he stops.He could have continued. Paster Jones had the chance to save some time and energy by not burning the Koran. He could have stopped. Maybe if he were a Stasi operative, or a four year old.,  he would have.</p></div></div></div> Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:34:57 +0000 Flavius comment 116418 at http://dagblog.com