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Why has no birth certificate

Anonymous — Thu, 05 May 2011 01:38:07 +0000

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Why has no birth certificate ever been required of a white president. I wouldn't have supplied it earlier either. This whole argument exposes the birthers as the racist dogs that they really are.

One reason that media gets a

rmrd0000 — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:45:30 +0000

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One reason that media gets a great deal of attention from me is that it does a great deal of harm. The demise of ACORN was aided and abetted by the media. The truncated tape that was used to libel Shirley Sherrod also stands out. Just this week, Hannity mentioned that Obama had attended Shiloh Baptist Church in DC on Easter Sunday pastored by "radical" pastor Wallace Charles Smith. Hannity aired a clip of a speech Smith gave when he served as president of Palmer Theological Seminary in Philadelphia:

“It may not be Jim Crow anymore,” Smith says in the videotape. “Now, Jim Crow wears blue pinstripes, goes to law school and carries fancy briefs in cases. And now, Jim Crow has become James Crow, esquire. And he doesn’t have to wear white robes anymore because now he can wear the protective cover of talk radio or can get a regular news program on Fox.”

Smith, 62, said that he had been asked to give a speech on racism and that he “was giving some background on what I thought were some of the issues regarding race in this country.”

Following the Hannity broadcast, Shiloh received over 100 threats. One fax they received had the image of a monkey with a target across its face. The Shiloh Baptist Church was founded by slaves in the 1860's and has hosted a number of Presidents, including Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/shiloh-baptist-church-receives-threa...

Trump and Hannity speak to the same audience. On too many occasions the rst of the media provide cover for the vile message put out by the likes of the two aforementioned gentlemen.

.......I’ve written my share

rmrd0000 — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:05:13 +0000

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.......I’ve written my share of pieces attacking the GOP and the Media. I just don’t spend all day every day doing that and only that. Like most sane people........

Hey, I kinda like Media Matters :)

@ whomever it might have been

we are stardust — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:34:11 +0000

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@ whomever it might have been for; it didn't make the move.

(Grin.) Simmer down now, ya'll. Emptywheel has it juuuuust right, IMO.

by we are stardust 4/28/2011 - 5:06 pm (re: Desiduous)

Ah! It was to the gefeltiliscious one!

@RmrdI find "Obamacare" and

Obey — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:21:54 +0000

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@Rmrd

I find "Obamacare" and "Ryancare" perfectly workable and inoffensive labels. I've seen administration supporters use "Obamacare" and use it myself accordingly.
In many cases, not always, criticizing the Obama administration from the left is a useful and productive activity.
I’ve written my share of pieces attacking the GOP and the Media. I just don’t spend all day every day doing that and only that. Like most sane people.
Here, on the Obama PR approach, I only entered the thread because ATrope was suggesting a series of false theories about what happened, and it’s usually useful and kind to appraise people – even those in one’s own party – of the truth. Like I said above, I don’t think this subject is the most important thing in the world.

I’m done here.

Moving a thread above to here

rmrd0000 — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:11:33 +0000

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Moving a thread above to here due to column narrowing secondry to length of the thread

If Republicans are getting pummeled by their own constituents at townhall meetings and the press doesn't report that fact, the press is acting as active public relations officials for the GOP. If the press uses Obamacare for the health care bill and does not use Vouchercare for the Ryan plan, then the press is biased. What is the best way to break the broken link? Going after the White House does nothing. The press is not telling the complete story. The press is the major problem.

The country was ill-informed on the run up the the Bush War. The country is ill-informed on climate change. The country is ill-informed on how other countries view Gitmo. The country is ill-infomed on the Fascism being practiced by Republican Governors in a host of states. The press is the the core of the mass ignorance.

Your solution to the massive dereliction of duty by the press is to attack the Obama PR approach. ou keep up that attack and watch the press core sleep through attacks on union rights, women's rights, etc. I'll keep my anger focused where it needs to be. I think that you are missing the big picture.

by rmrd0000 4/28/2011 - 3:47 pm (re: Obey)

The country was extremely well informed leading up to Bush's Iraq war - it chose to ignore inconvenient truths to go for pre-emptive revenge. Global warming? What more do they need? Just a thread to cling onto insane theories to keep from changing.

We're lazy, arrogant and mean - bad attitude for a superpower.

by Desiduous (not verified) 4/28/2011 - 4:44 pm (re: rmrd0000)

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I remember a different scenario. Phil Donahue was one of the few true anti-war voices on TV and he got fired by MSNBC. Note his comments on the bias in favor Conservatives in the link below. As I recall, the NYT and WaPo cheer-leaded the war.

http://mediamatters.org/research/200410290004

(Grin.) Simmer down now,

we are stardust — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:06:50 +0000

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(Grin.) Simmer down now, ya'll. Emptywheel has it juuuuust right, IMO.

The country was extremely

Desiduous — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:44:48 +0000

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We're lazy, arrogant and mean - bad attitude for a superpower.

Great, cool, fine.

quinn esq — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:51:46 +0000

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Great, cool, fine.

If Republicans are getting

rmrd0000 — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:47:02 +0000

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