MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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just sayin':
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 4:23pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 4:47pm
Supreme Leader Khamenei an hour ago:
^ He tweeted same text Oct. 3 !!!
Tweeted the below Oct. 3 and retweeted Oct. 4 !!!
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 5:33pm
uh oh?
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 4:25pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 4:27pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 4:27pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 4:29pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 5:15pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 4:32pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 5:08pm
note the Community Notes addition here:
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 9:58pm
^ is an Axios reporter
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 5:12pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 5:55pm
Nod, nod, as far as American politics is concerned:
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 6:00pm
D.S.A. = Democratic Socialists of America. (BTW both NY Reps. A.O.C. & Jamaal Bowman are members.)
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 6:55pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 6:43pm
We overreacted and got sucked into Iraq where we stayed for 15 years. Cooler heads should prevail here, but will they?
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 11:57pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 7:16pm
noting similarity to a Lauren Boebert Chistmas card
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 7:28pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 9:52pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 10:05pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 10:09pm
Yglesias to Ponomarenko
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 10:48pm
At least they stopped the suicide bombings?
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 11:24pm
he is a research fellow at The Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a non-partisan institution focusing on national security and foreign policy.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 10:43pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 11:29pm
Russia stirring Hamas up? Putin doesn't need or even want a winner - just more chaos.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1710592188415975760.html
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 1:52am
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 4:17am
Nikki Haley gives the kray-kray response
She was our UN rep? Seriously?
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 9:44am
To keep in mind, tho, the President did say this, clear as a bell; "The United States stands with Israel." I think that to think otherwise is to be in denial, this is the stance of the United States internationally. What Nikki Haley is saying is little different from EU states saying 9/11 was an attack on them as well as the U.S. or saying "We are all Charlie Hebdo".
This kind of rhetoric is also used for Putin's attack on Ukraine; in actuality he has not as yet physically attacked the U.S.
Also to keep in mind: the U.N. basically created the state of Israel.
Again, there is no doubt whose side the U.S. is on, the president has confirmed it, with the Secretary of State standing at his side.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 2:49pm
That fucker Netanyahu is one big reason we're in this mess - even Haaretz says so. "Finish them, Netanyahu" is calling out the shitty Bibi reprisals that target civilians and civilian infrastructure more than Hamasbecause Bibi's just in it for the land, monez, settlers,and his own ego. His deals with even harder right wing jerkoffs to keep himself out of jail shouldn't be encouraged as some kind of diplomacy. Haley is s ditz. Yes, I know Israel needs to respond against Hamas, but greenlighting it with such sloganeering as if "finishing them" won't finish a fucker ad of civilians is just naive and incindiary. Promoting effective but measured responses at this time is what adults should do. She's just missing the pom-poms and the buff hair.
([Note: a question té this quote)
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 11:53pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 2:03pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 2:12pm
from the UK:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 2:17pm
From wikipedia on Benny Morris:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 2:28pm
oh man, this born-and-raised-in-Egypt guy is so honest:
especially his ending:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 3:47pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 3:02pm
I've long thought Hezbollah smarter than credited, knew their PR internally & externally, fired enough missiles to keep a presence but not enough to hurt anyone (ok, someone may have been hurt, but mostly show)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 12:01am
quoting
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 3:57pm
continuation
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 4:10pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 4:37pm
Trending on Twitter: Savages
https://twitter.com/search?q=Savages&src=trend_click&vertical=trends
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 4:47pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 4:51pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 5:11pm
from a totally different thread:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 5:17pm
How do you "show agency" in poverty when someone else controls your infrastructure, low pay jobs, the streets, everything around, much which gets bombarded every year or two?
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 11:44pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 5:20pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 5:27pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 9:03pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 10:16pm
Much comes ack to Bibi
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 1:13am
Haaretz (try again):
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 2:08am
How it happened:
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:12am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:40am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:10am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:54am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:06am
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by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:19am
even
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:32am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:35am
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by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 6:55pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:43am
Senator Cory Booker, in Israel, describing what the beginning of the attacks were like
Among other things,I note he mentions being with "many Americans"
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:23am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:37am
Interestingly related:
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:22pm
So much for a unified 'Black community'.
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 2:22pm
Well, apparently cutting off babies' heads is justified.
The world is truly wondrous.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 2:31pm
Makes perfect sense as the Palestinians are no question the winners of the victimhood sweepstakes of the 20th century, playing victimhood every way that's possible is what they do best; they are the pros, be as nasty as you wannabe and still be a victim.
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 4:18pm
That's pretty sweeping - do you realize Hamas threw Fatah out of Gaza militarily? Are Fatah supporters - officially anti-violence since 1988 - guilty of Hamas' continued militant efforts? Where did Fatah earn its victimhood sweepstake, and if not Hamas and Fatah, what are Palestinian political advocates to do? How would a non-Hamas or Fatah party act? How guilty is a non-violent party for not adopting the violence of it's opponents, and if Fatah did adopt violence, would the Israelis then attack it anyway? Do Fatah supporters act as "victimhood" or are they simply victims of pretty rough treatment?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 5:38pm
note tweeter has been a speechwriter for the Israeli mission to the UN, would know a thing or two about propaganda
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 4:37pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:46pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:58pm
When terrorists & terrorism win
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 11:33pm
stereotype Jewish mom, just like in the movies
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:09pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:11pm
^ Compare and contrast the following. (HELLO THE ABOVE IS WHAT POLICE CAN DO! RULE OF LAW = CIVILIZATION WITH FREE SPEECH!)
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 4:37pm
Obama statement:
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 5:06pm
Bill Clinton statement
along with the somewhat same-old-prepared-statement nature of both, I am very much inclined to agree with Martin here
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:22pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 6:51pm
Across the Mideast, a Surge of Support for Palestinians as War Erupts in Gaza
The escalation laid bare the limitations of diplomatic deals between Israel and Arab governments as long as the underlying conflict continues. “We told you so,” a Saudi scholar said.
By Vivian Nereim @ NYTimes.com
Reporting from Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:08pm
continuation:
He is a research fellow at The Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a non-partisan institution focusing on national security and foreign policy.
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:29pm
continuation:
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 8:23pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:38pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 10:27pm
Here's the half-minute "the bulldozers are here, God is great..." video with subtitles. If you can stomach mad-dog religious fervor, I recommend watching with sound on
https://vp.nyt.com/video/2023/10/07/112054_1_07vid-israel-carousel-87892_wg_480p.mp4
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 11:01pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 5:27pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 10:02am
from‘It’s Not a War or a Battlefield. It’s a Massacre.’
A Times reporter and photographer visited an Israeli village raided by Palestinian gunmen.
By Isabel Kershner; Photographs by Sergey Ponomarev
Reporting from Kfar Azza, near the Israeli border with Gaza;
Published Oct. 10, 2023 Updated Oct. 11, 2023, 12:56 p.m. ET
more hints of previous division here
and here
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 2:10pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 2:44pm
Former Sec. of State Hillary Clinton retweeted this; I therefore presume she recommends these people as analysts, as well as appearing on the panel herself:
Edit to add, this is her statement about the attack:
(for those who don't know/remember, she was a senator of NY when 9/11 happened)
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 7:59pm
the latest from current U.S. Sec. of State Blinken:
before those 2, he retweeted this from Pres.Biden 6 hrs. ago:
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 8:07pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 8:14pm
3 videos from the IDF:
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 8:19pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 11:56pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:04am
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:11am
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:19am
thread continues with many more tweets
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:28am
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 10:19am
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 10:21am
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by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 11:32am
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 11:48am
Much Hezbollah disinfo right now - fake pushes, drones not drones, etc
Don't believe anything the next 24 hours unless there are photos or solid reports.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:32pm
What We Know About the Americans Who Were Missing or Killed
Officials confirmed that 14 U.S. citizens were among at least 1,000 people killed during an attack on Israel, and said “20 or more” Americans were missing.
By Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs, Hiba Yazbek and Nadav Gavrielov
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-american-deaths-hostages.html
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:58pm
Hamas Seeds Violent Videos on Sites With Little Moderation
The strategy mirrors efforts by extremist groups like the Islamic State and Al Qaeda in years past.
By Sheera Frenkel and Steven Lee Myers @ NYTimes.com
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 1:14pm
Early Intelligence Shows Hamas Attack Surprised Iranian Leaders, U.S. Says
The information has fueled doubts in the United States that Iran, a longtime supporter of the Palestinian militant group, played a direct role in planning the assault in Israel.
By Adam Entous, Julian E. Barnes and Jonathan Swan @ NYTimes.co,
Reporting from Washington
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 1:28pm
^ see whole Twitter thread starting here ^
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 1:20am
Family of Thai Farmworker in Israel Worries About His Fate
Kiattisak Patee has been working on a kibbutz in Israel, and his family fears he may have been taken hostage by Palestinian gunmen.
By Ryn Jirenuwat and Sui-Lee Wee
Reporting from Bangkok for NYTimes.com
Oct. 11, 2023 Updated 10:39 a.m. ET
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 2:23pm
NBC Nightly News interview:
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 4:01pm
Analysis that makes sense to me:
continued
He's in the U.S. now but was a reservist with experience on the Gaza border a decade ago:
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 4:33pm
Make no mistake where the U.S. President stands on supporting the state of Israel and the reason it exists
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 5:23pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 5:43pm
Totally unfair - it's nothing like genocide. More like a giant penal colony I wish ppl could get their analogies straight, perhaps a bit of a state-sponaored permanent favela.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 7:43pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 7:57pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 8:51pm
Being a humane leftist...
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/10/a-left-that-refuses-to-condemn-m...
...
I questioned this 2nd paragraph as a bit self-serving, but it turns out while the European immigrants dominated the influx, the *offspring* reproduction from Mideast Israelis is much higher, so the 2 populations are nearly equal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis
And LA is now the biggest center of Jews outside of Israel (and roughly a million Jews emigrated from Israel the last x years for various reasons)
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 10:04pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 10:54pm
Laura Rozen
she retweeted
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 11:08pm
And in the 20 years since Clinton's peace talks and Arafat's intifadas (and death 19 years ago yesterday), non if this intensity and intellect and brilliance has been used to try for a roadmap that can lead to peaceful coexistence in say 20 more years. Instead our idiot Bush with his ring of neocons immediately threw their lot in with Ariel Sharon, hardly an instigator of peace (and accused of atrocities serial times I believe, how the authoritative word on those came out I forgot bad haven't googled)
Here's Bush a month before 9/11 already putting the weight of any Israeli-Palestinian solution on Arafat.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/25/world/bush-criticizes-arafat-on-terro...
Since then we have accepted an even worse situation with overtly terrorist Hamas taking Gaza around 2006, sidelining the somewhat better Fatah and anyone else. So we have a largely backwards, impoverished, poorly educated people stuck in essentially a colonial limited prison camp facing off against a highly educated wealthy society we pump up with $5 billion a year, yet still there is no plan except status quo and steady attrition and encroachment and the usual reprisals when Hezbollah and Hamas play their games, a few rockets here etc, though this time it's no longer a game - someone put Hamas up to playing the nuclear card (with Hamas's sadistic and idiotic approval), an this shit has blown up for good.
But will this "intensity and intellect and brilliance" eventually remember they've got millions of peasants fenced in across land their ancestors did hold 100 years ago - camels or villages, who cares - and try to find a long-term solution worthy if their intellects and resources, instead of always giving in to the worst of their self-absorbed and corrupt right-wing factions? Is their solution to this problem "these backwards bedouins were too difficult and activist and violent for us to figure out, so we just dragged the stalemate out another 100 years"?
Was that our millennium promise? Where's AI now?
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 2:20am
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 11:14pm
Useful thread, he's for real; (now a self-described San Franciscan "Republican YIMBY Neoliberal Techno-utopian", co-founder of @BrionesSociety)
THREAD CONTINUES WITH MANY TWEETS
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 1:58am
Dead is dead and murdered is murdered, but should you care about this sort of thing for another reason:
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 1:52pm
Well no, degree of suffering counts for something.
Fuck these assholes.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 3:23pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 2:14pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 2:58pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 3:09pm
^ if you watch the above video, you will see that Neuer uses population numbers (for 2017; all visible on the subtitles) including 1.5 million Arab citizens of Israel with full rights to vote and run for the Knesset
(and does mention "whatever other difficulties they face", he also mentions that some sit on the Supreme Court),
and past numbers of Jewish population of the other countries
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 8:14pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 7:47pm
from
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 2:22am
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 8:26pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 8:31pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 1:53am
"Mr. X" has some thoughts in response to a tweet by A.O.C.:
I think one thing he is trying to say is that most of the world isn't pretty and doesn't fit very neatly into agitprop narratives
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 2:00am
good counterpoint to AOC
I would note that Israel used "we are now at war" from the getgo. That is also why I didn't think this was going to be the "same old same old"; no western leaders objected to that terminology, they were totally supportive.
P.S. Comes to mind that France is acting like it's wartime.
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 4:14am
Wow, check out the "Community Notes" on this one!!! Since 2007, “Gaza’s government” has been Hamas. They are basically agreeing that it's War, that one government, Hamas, first attacked the other, Israel.
(This actually strkes me as quite rational, and more irrational to think of them as a non-state actor, as most of us have come to think)
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 4:31am
what I suspected may happen may be happening: Israel warns 1.1m people to flee north Gaza within 24 hours - UN is the current headline at BBC News' live coverage
(my underlining)
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 2:24am
See just above the the Reuters reporting that Egypt said it won't take them. Who was asking that question? I suggest that was a response to specific request(s), not just a general press briefing statement.
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 2:47am
Like with Afghanis in Pakistan or Palestinians in Jordan, a few million can sit there for decades.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 4:47am
And maybe Egypt even likes that they bombed it (if they did)? - just sayin'
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 4:48am
YAH, he's thinking what I've been thinking as soon as I started to see the reactions of western leaders:
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 3:41am
A reminder; he said "The United States stands with Israel."
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 4:40am
Trapped in Gaza, Palestinian Americans Say They Feel Abandoned
As bombs fall and phone batteries run low, Palestinian American families caught in the Israel-Hamas war wonder whether the U.S. government will help them escape.
By Sharon Otterman, Anna Betts, Anushka Patil and Karen Zraick @NYTimes.com
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 11:33am
NYTimes,com's map: Where Israel Has Urged Palestinians to Relocate
Israel’s military issued a statement early Friday warning the population of northern Gaza to relocate to the southern half of the territory
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 11:53am
found retweeted by Josh Marshall
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 1:41pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 2:38am
From Wikipedia/Arabs in Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs_in_Europe
Regions with significant populations
France 4,000,000-7,000,000[1]
Spain 1,600,000–1,800,000[2]
Germany 1,401,950[3]
Netherlands 682,873[4]
Italy 680,000[5]
United Kingdom 500,000[6]
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 2:55am
Hiba Yazbek
Reporting from Jerusalemby artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 11:58am
reiterated today
29 minutes ago @ NYTimes.com
Monika Pronczuk
Reporting from Londonby artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 12:03pm
so in fact there has been fighting at their northen border in recent days
Euan Ward
Reporting from Beirutby artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 12:31pm
15 minutes ago @ NYTimes.com
Iyad Abuheweila
Reporting from Cairo
Peter Baker
Reporting from Washingtonby artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 12:38pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 12:48pm
I'm really getting tired if this word"genocide". 6 million Jews? Check. 600k Tutsis? Check. Maybe 5 million killed in Congo, don't know the players. Maybe Rohinga. But Ukraine? Or last weekend? Nope.which is a good thing.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 2:31pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 9:56am
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 1:38pm
both found retweeted by Josh Marshall
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 1:48pm
Jeez, someone never read about Vlad the Impaler or Catherine de Medici. After Mao killed 10+ million in the "Great Leap" and Stalin's purges, and even Indonesia killing hundreds of thousands while pushing out millions of suspected Communists - atrocities in much huger scale.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 2:37pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 1:50pm
"Hamas Attack on Israel Brings New Scrutiny of Group’s Ties to Iran
Officials from Iran and Hezbollah helped plan the attack, people familiar with the operation said, but the U.S. and its allies have not found evidence directly linking Tehran"
Oct. 13 NYTimes article By Farnaz Fassihi and Ronen Bergman
well summarized in a Twitter thread starting here
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 5:23pm
Israeli minister says Trump’s comments ‘wound the spirit of Israel’s fighters’
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 5:44pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 6:50pm
but wait, there's more
and what the heck, I'll throw in one off-topic freebie. Didja also know that he is now running as the edjumaction candidate?
(Geo. Bush can rest easy now)
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 8:07pm
Stunning State Department Memo Warns Diplomats: No Gaza 'De-Escalation' Talk
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 3:48am
EXCLUSIVE ‘We are deeply concerned’ – Progressive lawmakers make plea to Biden ahead of Israel’s Gaza campaign
A letter from dozens of members lays out five specific requests of the president over the war in Israel.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN
10/13/2023 01:15 PM EDT
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 3:57am
Aayan Hirsh Ali:
I was raised to curse Israel and pray for the destruction of Jews, writes AYAAN HIRSI ALI... That's why I know all too well Hamas is another ISIS - whatever useful idiots in the West say
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 4:08am
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 10:13am
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 8:55pm
Short video: NYC Mayor Eric Adams ENTHUSIASTICALLY (perhaps too mild a word?) thanks Israel at a UJA podium (I don't know the venue but I suspect it was today)
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 9:24pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 5:38am
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 9:33pm
And Israel hasn't normalized Hamas and recurring raids on civilian infrastructure over decades?
Name the last thing Israel did as a positive move towards peace vs sheer retaliation?
Israel's the rich , educated neighbor with major support to a largely backwards impoverished peasant population, half underage. Yet Israel acts like Palestine should be somehow equal in responsibility. The average Palestinian is powerless, while Israel makes sure they feel powerless. The only time Israel acknowledged Palestine as a "nation" was to blame all Palestinians for the actions of Hamas', not to say allow Palestine to conduct free international trade or to stop building illegal settlements on that "nation's" land
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 6:33am
They don't want to be equal is the thing; they want the victim role unless Israel is abolished from the river to the Sea.
Puhleez if you think you can do better that everyone else that tried, go over and do it. Cause no one else is willing to, all the Western leaders are fed up with it.
Once again, who are you arguing with? Biden? Bill or Hillary Clinton? Jimmy Carter? Emmanuel Macron? Your narrative is so over!
Who is gonna do what you are suggesting? You thinking of resurrecting Yasser Arafat or what? No one but you! Uncle, everyone else gives! They give up. There's no there there, no one to do what you suggest. The only willing parties want the west to go totally back on the creation of Israel. The west is not going to do that! Haiti is less hopeless!
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 1:26pm
5 million Palestinians all think alike?
Hamas' control doesn't affect what the avg Palestinian is willing to say out loud?
The 2.5 million underage Palestinians are all responsible for Arafat and Hamas, deserving of mass retribution?
Did Ariel Sharon and Netanyahu try any new peace initiatives over 20 years, or did they just enjoy the extra entrenched power they got focusing on making Hamas their only partner in peace non-talks?
Yeah, Mohammed bin Salman would rather bonesaw opponents on his way to better western acceptance. Bob's been happy to play up to Mideast corruption and warped goals on his own path to solidifying power at all costs.
Yes, the West overall is quite happy to ignore the fate of typical Palestinians caught up in the cynical indifference if everyone towards their shitty position in the scheme of things. Sorry I'm so fucking old school to you to actually give a shit about all the average people caught up in this cruel bullshit on both sides, just like I don't quite blame all typical Russians for the atrocities of Putin's intrigue and war on Ukraine (though a good number are certainly guilty of assisting), and I didn't blame all Congolese for 5 million dead in their civil war and mass rapes. I thought it pretty obvious that many Americans were powerless to keep Bush from making up facts to go to war in Iraq, or to keep Trump from burning down our foreign policy and wreaking havoc on the civil service. Trump didn't even win the popular vote, but he was president. Zimbabwe just had corrupt elections - are all the average people responsible for the horrific policies the new administration will now carry out after they weren't allowed to hold rallies during the campaign period or watch the polling stations properly?
In my old fashioned opinion, often life is quite unfair to typical people not in the power structure, and one has to be careful about assigning agency to their relative powerless - even the MAGA hats drawn in by the crowd for Jan 6 - not everyone had their shit together, but that doesn't mean they were organizers or the most responsible - there's enough chaos at any time for many to be confused and used.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 5:19pm
p.s. I'm with him,makes perfect sense and I think he speaks the present truth of the matter. (And you're mostly talking old-timey stuff that doesn't apply anymore, including that everyone in power has given up on.)
He's good too:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 1:54pm
In summary, also with him:
especially the last two: "No fuck you" means we don't have to accept the terms offered by the international community because we have the power to wipe out these Jews -- except, oops, no we don't. Then suddenly, we are the permanent wards of this international community, etc.
Yes, it's a complex issue that the Arabs decided at a crucial moment to try to resolve through force. The Israelis have had to continue to resolve it through force and attempts at negotiation that Arabs have continually decided would yield worse terms for them than a resumption of force, despite their situation continuously eroding as a result. The terms are never good for them because in the end, they consider the entire Jewish national project to be illegitimate and just want it erased -- a generation of Gazan youth born in the 1990's and 2000's just enacted the worst massacre in Israeli history in 2023...
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 3:44pm
edit to add:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 4:27am
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 4:19am
Israel still giving last-minute warnings to Gaza civilians:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 4:24am
poll of American public, support of Israel
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 5:06am
Ilhan Omar not answering the question:
continued:
The question:
What doesn't she get about western leaders saying 'We stand with Israel"? The main reason: you don't negotiate for hostages; you don't negotiate with terrorists. If you back down, all you get is more hostages, more terrorism.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 3:59pm
continued
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 4:10pm
continued
in reply to
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 4:15pm
And I would suggest that before any Americans opine more about making the existence of Israel all "fair" for Palestinians, they fix their own similar longstanding problems first, such as:
1) Look into that "forty acres and a mule" promise to freed slaves.Apparently, they never got those. How can you make it "fair" to their descendants?
2) Give Native American tribes more land back. A lot more.I'm thinking like 1/3 of U.S. land, now that would be "fair"
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 4:34pm
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 11:25pm
continued
And yeah, this one is spot on, if you don't realize this, you are the one that's clueless:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 4:45pm
continued:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 5:02pm
If Hamas didn't exist, Bibi would create them anyway. Israel overall doesn't look keen to create and follow a road to peace, preferring instead a road to greater settler satisfaction. No, Israel is not a dictatorship towards its own Palestinians, but as far as I see, the territories are to be eventually assimilated, while the Gaza strip will remain a steadily shrinking half-prison colony, eventually with the Palestinian population shoved out if they can manage. The Arab leadership largely was ready to turn the page, and I expect this current flareup is only a short-term deviation from long-term facts on the ground, paying lip service to the legacy pro-Palestinian cant that *is* anachronistic at this point. Few people want to "solve" this, most just want it to go away, which means some nasty shit will happen one way or another for it to go away (no nice man with money and enticing enlightened ideas showing up, at best it's an annoying Ilhan Omar)
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 5:39pm
So are those sympathizers of more reasonable murdered Fatah Palestinians still equally responsible for Hamas' rise and recent attacks? If Hamas was not killing the opposition, could a more intelligent responsible leadership have taken hold?
If the US, Israel and everyone else paid more attention to the hard core terrorist Hamas than any more liberal democrats interested in a more normal government, is it the Fatah Palestinians' fault that they don't serve as much a propaganda tool for Bibi as a cruel wing of Palestinian terrorism?
When was the last time world leaders actually offered Palestinians a carrot vs either stick or indifference (and steady loss of land)?
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 5:29pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 7:26pm
(Rozen retweeted the first of the 3 tweets by Ali Abdel-Wahhab)
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 11:59pm
Ex-ambassador named U.S. special envoy for Middle East Humanitarian Issues
David Satterfield will “focus on ensuring life-saving assistance can reach vulnerable people throughout the Middle East.”
By KELLY GARRITY @ Politico.com, 10/15/2023 01:21 PM EDT
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 7:40pm
(found retweeted by Laura Rozen)
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 11:47pm
The U.S. is expanding its military presence near Israel.
Eric Schmitt
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 7:52pm
Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza
Peter Baker from Washington @ NYTimes.com, 1 hr. ago
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:04pm
more (& note David E. Sanger contributed reporting.)
and
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:21pm
Edward Wong
Traveling with Secretary Blinkenby artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:08pm
Nadav Gavrielov
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:26pm
Video, semi-trucks on the Rafah crossing from Egyt headed to Gaza:
(found retweeted by Laura Rozen)
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 11:42pm
Seems to fit the link of 2 sides
(Pete Davidson recommended humor for getting past tragedy)
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 1:51am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 1:56am
Move a million civilians from their homes with no refuge facilities whatsoever so you can tame up to 5000 combatants?
The Academy is producing fucking retards these days I guess, or just you can always find one stupid opinion with the credential you want to anoint it.
Hey, let's evacuate Manhattan cuz I hear there are Al Qaeda sympathizers there. Can move Chicago into Indiana while local police handle the crime wave. Effing brilliant approach.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 2:05am
Fact check Hamas - it appears the "beheaded babies" is a lie, but babies were burned and killed. Rape likely not as widespread as presumed.
Other killings and kidnappings of course did happen.
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-is...
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 3:21am
"Society of Spectacle"
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 5:20am
Finding the right moderation, splitting the difference
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 8:59am
I think this is spot on:
make sure you check the extended post
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 7:59pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 8:57pm
Like it or not, it definitely looks like the U.S. is not gonna be "hands off"
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 10:10pm
Different kind of diplomacy
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 1:56pm
He's being too humble; this guy has exquisite spidey sense about such things after a career as a top journalist covering all things military:
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 5:19am
Now he's being more honest about his spidey sense
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 5:28am
I still think Iraqis wanted to greet Rumsfeld with flowers... don't know what happened.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 11:14am
Here's a guy with expertise in Shia militias:
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 5:31am
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 7:08pm
Everyone needs to admit from now on that the truth will never be known about many civilian incidents in this war, that we're dealing with master propagandists on both sides:
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 8:30pm
Sounds awful definitive,just sayin'!
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 6:14am
‘There are no heroes’ in Hamas-Israel conflict. ‘Only victims,’ says former Saudi intelligence chief
Prince Turki Al-Faisal: Hamas had gifted the higher moral ground to an unpopular Israeli government
@ ArabNews.com, Oct. 18
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 9:55pm
A top Hamas commander described as its head of military intelligence is killed in an Israeli strike.
Oct. 17, 2023, by Hilda Yazbek reporting from Jerusalem for NYTimes.com/live coverage
Caption: Ayman Nofal, center, in Khan Younis last month. The military wing of Hamas said on Tuesday that Mr. Nofal, one of the group’s top military leaders, was killed in an Israeli strike.Credit...Said Khatib/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/18/2023 - 3:50am
BUT BUT BUT the NYTimes 'LIVE' news reports that's one of the main things Biden has been working on!
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/18/2023 - 4:58pm
Biden’s Response to Israeli War Meets Centrist Praise and Liberal Anger
A prime-time address to the nation on Thursday will be the president’s third major speech on the Mideast conflict as his Democratic coalition strains over his handling of the violence.
By Reid J. Epstein
@NYTimes.com, Reporting from Washington, Oct. 19, 2023 Updated 10:40 a.m. ET
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/19/2023 - 12:02pm
Brit Hume on Fox News:
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 5:13am
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 5:37am
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 6:28am
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 5:49am
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 6:02am
Strikes me as a sort of hollow protest with this going on:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 12:39pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 6:07am
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 6:26am
Readout of Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III's Call With Saudi Minister of Defense, His Royal Highness Khalid bin Salman
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 5:53am
(retweeted by Laura Rozen)
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 5:59am
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 5:03pm
She's exaggerating but it makes the point:
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/20/2023 - 8:38pm
Not exactly a newbie as far as military options go, asks:
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 8:04pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 8:51pm
Tunisia’s Jews on edge after crowd torches synagogue amid Gaza protests
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 11:06pm
Analysis: Eying Gaza mediator role, Turkey cools Hamas ties, Erdogan restrains rhetoric
By Fehim Tastakin @ Al-Monitor, October 22
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 11:13pm
'Full Blinken: ‘Israel can not go back to the status quo’ after war with Hamas'/Meet the Press @
(Both retweeted by Laura Rozen)
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 11:19pm
OPINION/GUEST ESSAY: Why Jews Cannot Stop Shaking Right Now
By Dara Horn; Ms. Horn is the author of five novels and the essay collection “People Love Dead Jews."
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 1:00pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 1:06pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 1:55pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 6:53pm
Editors’ Note: Gaza Hospital Coverage By The New York Times
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 7:10pm
those with more interest might want to check out this 20-min. podcast/interview:
Joe Kahn, the executive editor of The Times, speaks with Lulu Garcia-Navarro about the editors’ note and how The Times plans to cover the widening conflict between Israel and Hamas.
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 7:17pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 8:53pm
Good essay - death of 2-state solution
https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-gaza-and-death-two-state-solution
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 1:16pm
The left bungles it again...
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 5:25pm
Same Brooklyn idjits that marched across the bridge every night in spring 2020 to 'protest' against police in Manhattan while police were busy handling the worst pandemic in a century. The police essential workers (many out sick themselves) had to show up to try to corral them to protect the mostly empty (but amazingly untouched until then) businesses and institutions of Manhattan.Now us taxpayers have to pay because some of those trust-fund brats got a broken arm or some such in their nightly scuffles with police.
Most classic NYC liberals hate them. They ruin everything they touch. They don't care about human beings, only identity groups.
(BTW: a reminder that a lot of classic NYC liberals in Manhattan are Jewish, monied, anti-Bibi but very pro-Israel and very anti-Islamic terrorism.)
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 6:00pm
continued:
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 6:39pm
A bit simplistic, but maybe not much. Sounds like Israel supported Hamas to counterbalance the PLO. With Ariel Sharon & Bibi, promoting an awful unworkable opposition was ideal.
When you say "Israel left Gaza", you might consider they maintain air, sea and land embargoes, limiting economic possibilities, etc. But with Hamas ruling...
Though to be fair, Arafat went for 2 intifadas rather than Bill Clinton's peace proposal. I don't know how ideal the proposal was, but from the guy who brought us the Munich attacks, a bit less terror, even if "just" rock throwing, might've helped get things signed (if he cared).
Read a good article starting from the 1937 Peel proposal on, the perverse situation where Palestinians would have been much better off taking these earlier land proposals (if adhered to), vs time & again attempting a disastrous military approach (though it never seems the Palestinians themselves are leading these - Egypt, Jordan, Syria, etc )
Also a reminder, 44.1% of Gaza is 14 and under; 65.4% is under 25. When people say "Palestinians did this", half of them have little say in matters, just pulled along by Hamas & Israelis.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 8:56pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 7:38pm
Trying to build peace (doesn't always come ore-packaged, needs effort...)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 8:26pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 10:41pm
"highly volatile" - what does that even mean (asking for Ho Chi Minh)
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 1:23am
his thread has lots of interesting analysis points of recent news, which he obviously follows carefully:
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 1:06am
Thread:
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 9:38am
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 9:05am
What is the UN-Israel row about? @ BBC Live Reporting, Posted at 9:50 am Oct. 25
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 9:28am
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 12:55pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 5:42pm
from https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4275502-house-approves-resolution-backing-israel-in-first-move-by-new-speaker/
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 5:55pm
If true, if any of these folks had any doubt about the need for Israel to aggressively exist, they don't have any doubt any more:
continued
by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 7:11pm
more on the Cooper Union incident (from a rare Brooklyn Republcan on the NYC council-never heard of her before-interesting!), a twitter thread starting here
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/26/2023 - 3:01pm
This has got like 260 replies
by artappraiser on Thu, 10/26/2023 - 7:02pm
Each of these tweets is golden, a koan, very incisive.
Not that the commenters care.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 1:42am
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 3:10pm
He's just sayin'
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 1:23pm
Strikes me that they agree: it is a real WAR
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 4:45pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 8:58pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 9:17pm
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 4:34am
thanks for the explanation!
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 12:39pm
Just a reminder (and he is likely quite correct)
by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 10:14pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/28/2023 - 11:02am
Signicant amount of enthusiastic agreement noted:
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/28/2023 - 2:04pm
Columnist for The Jerusalem Post:
by artappraiser on Sat, 10/28/2023 - 2:12pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 2:21pm
Don't tell me antisemitism is history.
And another thing, betcha lots of males don't even niotice BUT as a first-wave feminist,
I DO nearly EVERY FUCKING TIME I see a photo or video of Muslims exhibiting mob-like behavior for some reason or another:
WHERE'S THE DAMN WOMEN?!?!? Never any women!?!?! Do they share your feelings? We''ll never know, because you lock them in the house. You start yoir protest with 3 strikes against you as far as this female is concerned! If no women participate in your protest, it's pretty illegitimate bogus testosterone bullshit from the getgo to me.and I dislike your culture,and as a woman, I will have significant prejudice against your culture.
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 5:10pm
From the aptly nicknamed Chiraq (where some still think the cops are the real bastards, and only if rid of them the peace-loving people would thrive):
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 7:46pm
A reminder of what the fighting is supposedly about:
Now tell me again it's about land. Really?
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 8:00pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 8:53pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 9:58pm
French Jews live in fear amid rising antisemitism following Hamas attacks
Israel’s war against Hamas is exposing fault lines in French society — home to the world’s largest Jewish community after Israel and the US.
@ Politico.com, OCTOBER 30, 2023 4:01 AM CET
by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 11:54pm
NBC Gaza feed - new items ("live blog")
Tidbits not reported as much elsewhere
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-gaza-attac...
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 12:07am
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 7:52am
Very interesting, gonna keep this in mind as I read the news!
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 12:41pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 2:14pm
^ Really is worth watching; her speech, whether she wrote it or someone else did is SUPERB, and extremely well-delivered (she is incredibly strong!). For me, it wasn't the baby comment, but when she told of seeing the video of her son being loaded onto a truck as a hostage with a bloody stump for an arm, she grabbed me to the end....
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 2:26pm
Reminds me of my kids' Montessori school head - tough, clear, articulate, focused but flexible... pretty sure she wrote that speech.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 4:38pm
Biden yesterday
by artappraiser on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 5:15pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 12:15am
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 12:24am
U.S. State Dept. spokesman being as clear as can be:
I especially note: "and IDF who standby or fail to intervene"
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 12:28am
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 1:13am
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 5:12pm
That rumor/libel has been debunked for weeks now - that money was guarded in a 3rd country (Thailand? Malaysia?) and hasn't been released yet, so fuck these liars once again.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 11/02/2023 - 6:49am
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 5:16pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 5:25pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 11/01/2023 - 2:01am
by artappraiser on Wed, 11/01/2023 - 2:16am
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