MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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[25th Amendment talk] White House Counsel has advised all staff they need to stay away from Trump
By artappraiser on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 11:58pm |with this story, time for a new thread on topic, I think; the earlier 25th amendment & related talk was posted starting here on the thread "Republicans abandon Trump" and on Pence's troubles Weds and related here.
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full secondary headline: White House Counsel Pat Cipollone is reportedly warning West Wing staffers to avoid Trump for legal reasons, and even Stephen Miller thought Wednesday was atrocious. Will Mike Pence bring out the big guns?
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 12:09am
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 12:42am
Barry McCaffrey & Rep. Jayapal:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 12:48am
NYTimes print front page Thurs. (what else could they do when reality is like the NYPost?)
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 1:02am
the deputy national security advisor resigned this afternoon:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 1:07am
more on that resignation:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 1:34am
John Kelly says publicly if he were in the current cabinet he would vote yes for 25th Amendment removal:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 4:44pm
another "wow" confirmation of the Kelly statement:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 5:11pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 4:53pm
Poor Pence, probably just taking a shower.
by moat on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 5:03pm
Appears to be a deadline on the 25th Amendment choice: Impeachment ready to go Monday if Pence doesn't do it:
Hence, the urgency of the phone call.
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 5:09pm
*This* is shocking - who is "they"? Why would they refuse a call from heads of 2 chambers of Congress during a crisis? Would they put Putin on hold for 25 minutes? Treasonous idiocy.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 7:27pm
Benjamin Wittes on prosecuting him on sedition. George Conway concurs. (If that's not enough, a reminder! The top of this thread has the White House Counsel telling staff it may be sedition! Is that a slam dunk or what!?)
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/07/2021 - 5:32pm
Rep Clyburn points out that there is not enough time for Impeachment to pull Trump out of office.
We need the 25th amendment to happen now. Clyburn says the cabinet heads who are resigning "in protest" are shirking their duty by leaving without doing that.
by moat on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 10:50am
Impeachment may invalidate pardons
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 11:05am
An interesting possibility.
If he was pulled out immediately, he wouldn't be able to give out anymore. On the other hand, if he had the good sense the Lord gave to turnips, he would resign in exchange for pardons from President Pence.
by moat on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 11:33am
Pence has no good reason to pardon him.
Aside from a weird "Acting Prez for 10 days" Roger Maris-like asterisk, Pence gets little in taking over Trump's shitshow
(tho could do it for the country, if that's not too cliché)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 11:35am
Thelma changes her mind at the last moment and struggles to open the damn door.
Not much for him in the game either way.
by moat on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 12:03pm
Don & Rudy's Excellent Adventure will not be interrupted by Mike's Anthony Perkins impersonation. [curious, is Rudy Thelma or Louise? Also, does Don know how to drive a car, not that stomping the gas pedal next to a canyon's edge requires driving school or a license] And as important trivia (sure, Jan) how much was Trump influenced by Dion?
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 12:21pm
I think Pence sees Trumps resignation as a lose, lose situation for himself. Pence wants to be President someday, but not today, not for just two weeks. He would be expected by Trump’s base to issue a pardon which he doesn't want to do. If he didn’t he would lose Trump’s base for 2024.
by A Guy Called LULU on Fri, 01/08/2021 - 1:06pm