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The Squad United in Opposing Infrastructure Bill
By NCD on Sat, 11/06/2021 - 7:09pm |These were the only Democrats voting no. 200 Republicans, partisan obsessed hypocrites, most of which represent states to receive billions for infrastructure, also voted no. Thirteen House Republicans voted with Pelosi and the Democrat majority. Without the Republican votes the legislation would not have passed.
The Squad: Rep. Jamaal Bowman of New York
Rep. Cori Bush of Missouri
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York
Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota
Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts
Rep. Rashida Tlaib of Michigan
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/politics/infrastructure-bill-house-democrats-voted-no-republicans-voted-yes/index.html
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“I can’t believe Republicans just gave the Democrats their socialism bill,” Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said. ...Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), in her typically understated fashion, warned last week that any Republican who voted for the bill would be “a traitor to our party, a traitor to their voters and a traitor to our donors.” After the vote, she accused the 13 of having voted to “pass Joe Biden’s Communist takeover of America” and tweeted the phone numbers to their congressional offices... link
Note: no mention of country.
by NCD on Sat, 11/06/2021 - 7:27pm
the details here, they were the only ones of the Progressive Caucus to try, at the last minute, against Jayapal's request, to derail Pelosi and Biden's wishes. And the 13 Republicans voting against McCarthy's wishes were the saviors for Pelosi and Biden.
by artappraiser on Sat, 11/06/2021 - 7:27pm
Republican TRAITORS to the Party..! 5 Years !!
Gestapo, Crimes under Wehrkraftzersetzung !!!!!!!
"criticism, dissent and behavior opposed to Party political leadership". !!!!!!!!!
by NCD on Sat, 11/06/2021 - 8:08pm
The vote went as predicted. There were about 9 Democrats that were predicted to vote against the bill, and 10+ Republicans who were predicted to vote for the bill.
MTG posted the office numbers of the 13 fallen Republicans.
by rmrd0000 on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 12:09am
The vote went as predicted.
Wrong. Actually, not at all, virtually no one predicted the point of NCD's post, that it was a surprise that it was only The Squad and a majority of Republicans that voted no.
You yourself posted quite a few times with news items and opinions, that nearly the whole Progressive Caucus was going to stick together,dig in their heels and vote no unless both bills went at the same time to counter Manchin and Sinema (Manchin finally at the last minute held a press conference bitching about all the Progressives for doing this.)
But Nancy Pelosi worked hard in the last minutes to peel off yes votes from the predicted "solidarity" of the Progressive Caucus and left only The Squad standing.
THIS WAS NOT PREDICTED AT ALL: the last minute collapse of long-held solidarity of the Progressive wing.
That's not an unimportant thing, that the progressives are not as unified as they are made out to be.
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 4:44pm
I like Nance. Perhaps we can bitch about this or that, but she's usually solid, eyes on the prize.
Meanwhile the Russian cohorts think they've hit a homer. Matt Taibbi just off his "blow me" interview i guess feeling hos oats, but Rachel being support help for Karens is pretty chutzpah ish.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 5:41pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 8:10am
Every last one of the 200 'No' voting Republicans will campaign on, and claim credit for, infrastructure and jobs this Bill funds, and brings to their districts and state. And their indoctrinated Fox News mob will swallow the lies ... hook, line and sinker.
The Squad will not claim credit for anything, but will whine about what Biden didn't do.
by NCD on Sat, 11/06/2021 - 7:36pm
needs no elaboration!
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 5:12am
AKA, "Fuck you, Brandon!"
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 7:45am
her tweeted spin 14 hrs. ago
I suspect from this that "The Squad" gambled and lost big time as far as any future power is concerned. She squashed them and is even rubbing it in with the emphasis here on "bipartisanship". While she's never been that much into retribution--more of a uniter rather than divider--I think their concerns will not be taken seriously by her from now on. I am also reminded of reading about her pleading publicly before the vote that it was real important for Biden to have this win BEFORE he left for Europe. I have a feeling that's not only him, that's her, looking at big picture about what he was going to be attempting to do to regain some of our country's credibility.
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 6:15am
The Squad doesn't seek power, just perfection, which is in some ways safer, providing the protection of unaccountability, as it will never be legislated.
The 200 Republicans are dangerous, malevolent even, as they seek only power.
by NCD on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 5:17pm
No you're talking more about society at large! I meant a power play within the Democratic party in Congress. And it was no secret! They specifically organized the Progressive Caucus to hold the infrastructure bill "hostage" until both bills were offered at the same time. It was a tactic to counter the power of Manchin and Sinema, who were always basically in favor of the infrastructure bill but had a lot of power on whittling away on the other bill.
It was a very clever tactic to gain power over what the other bill included. Savvier than Progressive Caucus usually is in the past but also very risky. And it failed big time, all their colleagues bailed and left only The Squad standing.
Sort of defeats what a Congressional caucus is for, to pull a Congressional party further in one direction. They are split now: there's "appeasers" into trusting Biden/Pelosi's promises that the other bill will satisfy their demands, and there's The Squad who still wanted to hold firm on holding the infrastructure bill hostage because they don't trust that their demands will stay in the 2,000+ pages...
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 6:01pm
The Squad had no power by this week, if much ever, and likely knew it. Pure posturing on this vote.
The GOP yes votes were certainly no surprise to Pelosi.
I have doubts much of the original tax increases, substantial safety net, green energy stuff will get into the reconciliation Bill due to 'moderates'. We'll see.
by NCD on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 6:29pm
just a btw, I noticed that he thinks the hostage taking tactic was stupid:
not that he's a congressional negotiation genius, but he does have a lot of influence
comes to mind after saying: Biden has a ton, a ton of congressional negotiation experience and I would imagine one learns from failures as well as successes. but it's also keeping the personal relationships cordial, I think that's a real thing
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 6:34pm
oic now, Yglesias was also having other thoughts the other day on "bi-partisan"
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 6:43pm
well somebody caused the infrastructure bill to get stalled in the House for 87 days after it passed the Senate. 87 days is almost 3 months
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 7:18pm
Republicans, with more secure control of Congress for 2 years, 2017, 2018, could only pass tax cuts for corporations and the rich, zip .. nothing on infrastructure. They were too busy also trying to kill ACA healthcare.
by NCD on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 9:09pm
hah this is just funny- ret. Lt. Gen. Honore's inner marine-sergeant/producer coming out while watching a network today he has appeared on many times:
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 4:59pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 7:36pm
a selection of a lot of "pissed at The Squad" stuff I am seeing, starting with Greenwald vs. Cenk Uyghur!
note that's a whole thread!
then there's this major rant, a guy who usually does humor for the "black twitter" crowd
that's an even longer thread!
other stuff
yeah, that's really him, the famous horror writer
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 7:54pm
a few more -
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/07/2021 - 11:57pm
very good to listen to! you get the strong sense that he gets what's going on but he's not worried, i.e., it will all work out, been there, done that
by artappraiser on Mon, 11/08/2021 - 12:05am
A bit FDR fireside chat. "Give everybody a shot" was a nice double-entendre.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 11/08/2021 - 3:18am
from Ashley Reynolds, Howard University Alum, USC Alum, TV Producer: CBS Programming & Development, Inside Edition, Katie Couric Show, Wendy Williams Show, The Kelly Clarkson Show
by artappraiser on Mon, 11/08/2021 - 12:10am
David Sirota on Obama and the fallout from promises unkept(I'm often not a fan of Sirota's, but this seems a good piece)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 6:21am
Axios:
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 6:42am
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 8:44am
Their vote will make no difference in their districts. Probably. Gerrymandering.
Same with the 200 Republican 'No's'. Both can still claim credit for whatever good the Bill does, as if they were supporters and responsible for it.
70% of 'Murican voters have the political attention span of a gnat.
Huge majority will believe almost any alternate fact/assertion/lie related to politics, which now includes everything .... everywhere.
by NCD on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 5:14pm
Sec'y Pete on racist highways (news to me)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 2:14pm
except Pete is saying it the politically stupid way, he should be leaving the skin color history out of it and instead saying they were built to keep the poor folk from "the other side of the tracks" away, which is ALSO TRUE.
I am pretty sure you know the famous phrase "the other side of the tracks" as regards 'bama. It's in a lot of American literature going way back in the 20th century and in fact, it was invented to specifically address,and describe what Pete is talking about! How there was urban planning as the infrastructure grew that separated "us" vs. "them". And the "us" vs. "them" was more about class than race. Racism was the specific factor in "redlining", infrastucture prejudice was more class-based.
People know that instinctively and they resent when the two are conflated (see for example, anger over school busing, which Joe knows well....)
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 4:50pm
p.s. there's a much more local and finer distinction along the lines of "the other side of the tracks" in Evan S. Connell's famous novel Mrs. Bridge which struck me real hard reading it in a college lit class and I never forgot it. The novel addresses the alienation of uptight segregated-by-class life of the suburban country club set in mid-century Kansas City. There's a couple pages or so where Mrs. Bridge's set takes to denigrating anything doing with "across the tracks" culture as "so Tobacco Road". They are referring to Erskine Caldwell's Tobacco Road as popularized in a Broadway show, they are basically referring to what we today label "white trash". They don't know any white trash, they don't know from those people except that they have bad taste, bad manners and bad habits in life, and that is why they are where they are, across the tracks. Race isn't even a consideration, they don't even think of it because that's part of the class system and it doesn't involve them.
It's very akin to what's happening now when surburban blacks denigrate something as "so ghetto".
(They don't even think of things like sex either, there's also a great scene of Mrs. Bridge getting existential pain from seeing evidence of some other tribes being into it in a lingerie shop window in Paris when Mr. and Mrs. Bridge do their ugly American once-in-a-lifetime "grand tour". Paris is definitely "the other side of the tracks", after all, you had to take a boat to get there.)
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 5:23pm
Well, I've had my mom turn the car around at those tracks (not that long ago) and while you can describe it as "poor" it's also the black side of town. They frequently go together. Of course more and more there are yuppie blacks, but I'm pretty sure from her dirt poor Depression-era roots she still never thought that *she* was from the wrong side of the tracks. I also know when I'm heading into the Spanish part of town. Let's not deceive ourselves too much.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 5:23pm
yet see my edit to my comment, I added
It's very akin to what's happening now when suburban blacks denigrate something as "so ghetto".
We're in transition on that front basically. This is precisely why the Infrastructure bill was so important in this point in our history. And Pete is thinking right about this, he's just voicing it wrong. It works better to keep race out if, that is just a distraction from the main point of segregation of the poor. Bernie knows this for sure! He was more successful selling his policies when he avoided race baiting. An even better example is Jesse Jackson, as exhibited by his primary race for president when he won lots of Reagan Dem support in Michigan and everyone was shocked. It was because he didn't make it racial, he made it about class.
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 5:31pm
I differentiate between evaluating realities and how you market your way through. I imagine I'd avoid any statement about race altogether if possible. And gender issues etc.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 6:43pm
Occurs to me this guy is in the new "wrong side of the tracks" type neighborhood of the near future
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 10:15pm
Except Pacific Islanders are exotic & natural, not scary.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 11/10/2021 - 7:02am
Detroit highway/black section
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 11/11/2021 - 6:04pm
I see this "lapsed historian" with PHD in American history & Polk Award-winning journalist that we all know would like to recommend this article as regards Sec. Pete's spin:
by artappraiser on Wed, 11/10/2021 - 2:13am
nice point
and is true
by artappraiser on Tue, 11/09/2021 - 10:37pm