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    Yo Deadman, please don't hurt em ...

    Ring the bell, school's back in, break it down ... Stop. Question time!

    10) Ok, several days have passed. Are you still smiling and dancing, or do you find yourself suffering a bit from some sort of post-partum-like depression?

    9) Not that I would know anything about this, but which is a more important element of looking good on the dance floor: Rhythm or self-confidence?

    8) So I turned 35 this week. Is it lame that one of the things that most annoys me about this age is that I can no longer check off the 18-34 age group in surveys?

    7) My awesome girlfriend got me one of those comfy leather recliners for my birthday (we once got in a fight because she said she thought those chairs were ugly and didn't want one in her apartment while I insisted they were one of man's god-given rights), and I have now fallen asleep while watching TV on that chair each of the past several nights. Have I become my dad?

    6) Why or how did humans evolve so that they crave and demand variety in their meals? Every day, my dog acts like a Democrat who just found out Obama has won the presidency (i.e. like a delirious nut bag) when I take a scoop into his jar of food, even though I'm preparing to give him the exact same crap I always do. It seems like it'd be so much easier and more efficient if we humans could also be content eating the same thing every day.

    5) Which is worse: Sarah Palin's ignorance; the McCain advisers who chose Palin despite her ignorance; or the fact that those same advisers are now just piling on, anonymously leaking to the press more examples of that ignorance and suggesting she torpedoed the campaign?

    4) One of the ironies of the election was that the heavy black turnout caused by Obama's candidacy contributed to the passage of Prop 8 in California, which outlaws gay marriages. Do you believe the civil rights struggle of homosexuals is equivalent to the African-American struggle. If not, what is the difference? (This is not a trick question; I think there can be legitimate debate here, though in the end I personally don't think there's a difference.)

    3) If you could find out the exact date of your death, but couldn't do anything to change it, would you want to know? If you found out you were going to die within the next 12 months, what would be the biggest change you'd make in your life?

    2) I have plenty of regrets in my life. One of them I remember well is telling a childhood friend in first grade that there was no Santa Claus, which was a really crappy thing to do (especially so cuz I'm Jewish). Do you remember when you first found out there was no Santa Claus and what was your reaction? (My apologies if I have once again spilled the beans and destroyed any delusions you may harbor).

    1) Please look at the attached map below. It's a graphical display of the voting trends in Tuesday's election compared to 2004. The blue sections are areas where people voted more heavily Democratic; the bluer the section, the bigger the change.

    Which of the following facts does this map reveal (Choose all that apply): a) The Republican brand and agenda is dying b) The Democratic brand and agenda is ascending c) Barack Obama was a better candidate than John Kerry or d) Damn, the South is disturbingly full of racists, esp. Arkansas, Oklahoma and Tennessee.

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    10) I'm still smiling, no question about it.  I had my Obama shirt on until yesterday.

    9) I'm a terrible dancer, but as an observer I'd say rhythm.  Maybe I'm biased because I'm a musician.  Also, I think this is one area where too much confidence, especially in absence of rhythm, can you into trouble.

    8) Birthdays are funny like that.  When you turned 35 you were a year older than when you turned 34, but only a day older than the last time you felt 34.  I think the increase in the integer leads us to put that whole year into an instant.  You end up looking back with a feeling that the time just got away, but did it?  I guess it's all about perspective.  Besides, unless you're compelled to for legal reasons, you can always just check 34 anyway!

    7) Yes.

    6) I have no idea.

    5) All of the above, but mostly the advisers who chose her in the first place.  It was clearly a choice that was made on the basis of the remote possibility that it might get them to the White House regardless of the implications.  That's pretty awful.

    4) I completely disagree with this characterization and think that the voices from the gay communities here in California which are raising this specter are making a terrible mistake.  First of all, the black community isn't particularly large, especially when compared to the hispanic community (which is predominantly Catholic).  Blaming the passage of Prop. 8 on Obama, the turnout he encouraged or any ethnic minority, black or otherwise, is insipid and foolish.

    Prop. 8 passed narrowly and did so with overwhelming support, both financial and logistic, from a variety of churches, not the least of which is the LDS.  The "No on 8" campaign was pitifully organized to practically non-existent.  Melissa Etheridge says she won't pay her taxes now?  That's fine.  I'm all for civil disobedience, but perhaps she might have thought to take that money and buy some television time with it when it mattered.  Where were all of the well-moneyed gay Californian voices on this issue?  I can tell you that we didn't hear from them.  Southern California, with the exception of Santa Barbara county, voted for Prop. 8.  By the way, Contra Costa  and Alameda counties, where much of California's black population is located, voted against it.

    This is most certainly a civil rights issue, but it is not the same as the black civil rights struggle.  Gay people are certainly persecuted.  Despicable incidents like what happened to Matthew Shepard are a stark reminder of this.  However, it's neither accurate nor useful to make a direct comparison here.  Gay people didn't come from slavery in this nation.  Though some people wear their sexuality on their sleeves (heterosexuals as well), you can't necessarily tell who's gay just by looking.  You can't make them use a separate bathroom or drinking fountain.  You can't deny them the right to vote (this one deserves extra thought in the current context).

    Worse than making an inapt comparison is scapegoating an entire ethnic community.

    Prop. 8 passed because of the tremendous funding and organizational efforts of California's religious community.  They organized the effort to get the signatures necessary to put it on the ballot.  They were everywhere campaigning for it.  They were practically unopposed.  In a year when the book on the low-level organization of campaigning was being re-written right before our eyes, the opposition to Prop. 8 was taking a nap.

    I really hope that those within the gay community who've been vocally pushing this abhorrent assertion think twice about such divisiveness as they pursue their own civil rights.  Better still would be that these voices grew the spine to call out the hatred and bigotry inherent in organized religion.

    3) I think that everyone should ask themselves this question as often as possible.  If you can answer that you'd change nothing, then you know you're living the right way.

    2) I really only have vague memories of this.  I recall already having had a vague suspicion that my parents were behind it.

    1) All of the above.  Racism in the south is different than one might think without actually spending some time there.  It's pervasive and cultural, but lacks viciousness.  If this doesn't quite make sense, then perhaps I just don't know how to explain it properly.  Though I was raised in California, my family is from Texas and Alabama.  There's just a completely different culture there.


    9. Great video. I've seen that before, but it's a classic!!!

    8. Good points about aging - im technically only a day older, yet it feels like a more significant milestone, and I can always check whatever box makes me happy!!

    5. I actually think the advisers' post-election is worse. Palin's ignorance is what it is - don't want it anywhere near the White House, but I can't really say I find it offensive. The McCain team picking Palin was very bad, but reeked of desperation and foolishness rather than of evil intent, while the way they are throwing her under the bus after the election to try and deflect blame for the dozens of other bad decisions they made in the campaign is sad indeed.

    4. Very interesting thoughts regarding Prop 8, and the 'scapegoating' of the African-American community. A lot of truth in what you say, but it is a fact that polling data shows that more black voters are against gay marriage than for it, and I really do find it despicable when minorities don't stand up for the rights of other discriminated groups. of course, religion is really what's to blame here.

    3. Wish I could say I wouldnt change anything if i found out i was going to die soon, but I think i'd make a few changes including quitting my job.

    1. racism without viciousness? I guess I see what you're talking about ...


    10. Post-election depression punctuated by tearfully joyous recounts of my campaign/election experiences. Mostly sad that I can't seem to recapture that feeling of elated shock from Tuesday night. 4 days later, when I turn on the tv and see him, hear him, it all seems inevitable and like it was always meant to be like this. I am mostly in post campaign withdrawal, trying to find any excuse to talk about it.  Sitting on my couch reading dagblog instead of unpacking from my move which happened 8 days ago.

    9. Self-Confidence. .

    8. Yes. It's lame. You have one of those leather chairs so you should feel good about accomplishing all is required of a man of 35.

    7. Yes.

    6. I have a feeling if there weren't variety of food in front of me I would be quiet content eating the same thing every day. Poor dogs don't have a choice. This conversation is making me hungry.

    5. Palin is too ignorant to be blamed for anything. She's like a small child who doesn't know any better.  Please don't tell her there isn't a Santa Claus.

    4. Was answered in comment above better than I could ever do. I do think there are similarities between racial issues and gay issues, but I don't think most people are ready to hear that.  Discriminating against someone for who they are is just plain wrong.  It does seem like a pretty bad idea to jump to conclusions about the cause of the passing of Prop 8, in terms of the minority groups that voted for Obama. Although it does highlight the complexity of the situation. Everyone I know in California is so upset about 8, and rightfully so, but I have been trying to calm them down - We had to elect Obama, and get things moving in the right direction. The buzz amoung the staffers/volunteers on wednesday morning in Ohio was - look what we did...we've learned so much and created something, an organization, a movement, that is just getting started...

    3. No comment. Sheesh. What's all this about death? One of our greatest psychological capacities is to walk around in total denial of the impending pointlessness and obliteration of ourselves and everything we've ever known.

    2. If someone's religious convictions are so flimsy that they just change their mind because some kid tells them differently...... This child isn't only being taught that Santa exists, but this child is being taught not to ask questions or consider logic.  Maybe religion isn't about logic, but if it's not, then it's about faith, and there is no reason to think I am capable for shattering that faith with a simple comment. Yeah, I think I did tell a 5 year old once, she cried, and I felt guilty.

    1. All of the above. Although blaming it on racism alone is probably simplifying voting patterns that are most likely effected by multiple sources.

     


    10. well-explained. I was kind of in a funk, and then i saw obama's press conference and then i just thought, he's going to be our president for at least the next 4 years. how friggin awesome, and the joy came back. of course, he does have quite the challenge ahead.

    8. you're right. plus, DF makes a good point: I can usually just check whatever box makes me happy!

    6. I have now disproved that theory - I thought I could eat Marshmallow Fluff everyday, and then one day I didn't feel like eating it (it's still a top 3 food, tho!). So something happened in our evolution that made us crave variety in our foodstuffs. maybe because way back when we knew we couldnt always rely on getting that big kill and enjoying a big meaty buffalo corpse so we learned to love and appreciate the pleasures of small twigs and tall grass.

    4. DF makes some great points on this one, but I think the one similarity they do share is that in a few years down the road, we will be disgusted with the way our society viewed homosexuals and their civil rights. and the other thing all civil rights struggles share - setbacks, which is all this will prove to be. not that we shouldn't be pissed about it, or accept it lying down, but that we should keep it in perspective.  sometimes, i feel like i shouldnt talk about any of it, since i can't really put myself in shoes i'm not in.

    3. i lack that capacity. not to the point where I can't function, but sometimes close. that's why i'm deadman.

    2. man you're one harsh atheist!!!

    1. i'm sure there are other things going on beside racism but i just can't understand how barack could do worse than kerry given the candidates and all that has gone on with the war and economy over the past 4 years (I guess you can argue that mccain WAS a better candidate than bush)

     


    2. Jewish and Agnostic. I'm not saying people shouldn't believe in things they can't see or understand.  Just if they are going to believe in it, they shouldn't be talked out of it so easily. The idea that the Jewish kids can come in there and just bust the myth by stating "santa isn't real. It's your parents buying those gifts" leads me to believe that the child hasn't really even considered the possibility of what is real.  However, I am not cruel or suicidal, so no, I don't go around debating children about Santa Claus.


    Let's review the facts here, D:

    1) This kid's parents lied to him

    2) You told him the truth

    I don't think that you're the one responsible for making the kid cry. If you tell your kid untruths, you're setting them up to get upset when the truth is revealed. Call me a Jewist, athestist grinch, but I've always found the Santa Claus phenomenon disturbing.


    Yes.

    All religions tell untruths.  Mostly these serve the needs of the individual or community. You go to heaven after you die, sex should be in marriage only, etc. Without debating the usefulness of these ideas, theoretically, when parents pass down religious ideas they are not lying, because they believe it too. In the case of Santa Claus, the parents lie is deliberate.

    Still, religious tolerance and all that...


    In the case of Santa Claus, the parents lie is deliberate.

    That's what I find so creepy about it. I don't think it seriously warps anyone, but at the very least would seem to strain the bonds of parental trust. In any case, I don't think that Deadman should feel guilty about it. The kid was going to find out eventually.


    10) Still smiling. Basking, really.

    9) Self-confidence. But rhythm AND self-confidence is a dead sexy combination.

    8) I've never really been annoyed by getting older. But it is sort of perplexing that I'm almost 40 and I still don't feel like I've grown up. I wonder when that kicks in.

    7) It happens to all of us, right?  (Does that conflict with my answer to #2?)

    6) Humans are never happy with what they have. It's our curse. We always want something that we perceive as newer and better.

    5) Sarah Palin's ignorance. John McCain and his people did a horrible thing by choosing her to be that close to the White House, but the fact that she has no concept of the vastness of things that she does not understand and feels herself qualified to be the president is truly frightening.

    4) I agree with DF here. There's not really a comparison to be made. That said, oppression is oppression and where it exists, it must be eradicated. Prop 8 sucks. But you can't stop progress. It's a temporary, if painful, blip on the road to equality for gays and lesbians.

    3) This is a really difficult question. I'd equate it with "do you want to die suddenly or after a long illness?" There's no answer that doesn't have significant downsides. As for me, I don't know.

    2) I have total recall of this moment. I was six years old, riding in the backseat of our yellow Pinto, headed west on Lincolnway in LaPorte, Indiana. We were stopped at the light in front of the post office. Someone in my kindergarten class had suggested that there was no Santa. I asked my mom. She wasn't one to lie, ever, so she came out with the truth. My follow up, "So no Easter bunny either, huh?" What can I say? We're a family of pragmatists.

    1) I think it's probably a little of everything and probably not as much as we'd like of B.

     


    9. hmmm... I have neither - i think that's probably a dead fish combination.

    8. My body always tells me otherwise but I also don't feel 'grown up'. Still love video and board games, immature jokes, rock music ... it's one thing to fall asleep on a big ole cushy recliner, quite another to want to scream at the kids to turn down their music which 'isn't even music' - when does that happen?

    7. great response. sarah palin is frightening, but i also admire her shocking confidence and ambition. she's achieved nothing but success in her life, so it's tough for me to question her desire to become VP despite a stunning lack of qualifications (esp. given the 'qualifications' of our current president).

    3. i really think i'd like to know ... i need that sense of urgency.

    2. that's funny!

    1. you're probably right.


    Confidence can be faked. As long as you're having a good time, I'm sure you're fine.


    10. Smiling and still tearing up on occasion.

    9. Self confidence, go dance!

    8. No

    7. Yes

    6. Dogs eat because they are hungry, humans eat for entertainment.

    5. All of them ugly and insulting to me to think I would swallow any of their crap.

    4. Equivalent but not the same.  It is a civil rights issue, not a popular vote issue.  Should and will be over turned. 

    3. Don't want to know but if I found out I'd move home with my family.

    2. You are scum deadman.  My sister told me when I was eleven and I really believed there was a good and kind old man that gave gifts to childern.  I can still remember to this day 43 years later how heartbroken I was.  You have brought up a very painful memory, deadman.  Only having the joy of President Obama to balance the pain will keep me out of therapy again!

    1. Barack Obama is a MUCH better candidate than John Kerry. 


    9. In my apartment, i got all the confidence in the world!!

    3. that's an interesting change. i don't know if i do that ... but id fly them out to me!

    2. scum?? that's harsh Laughing i'm an Innocent president Obama is the real Santa anyway!!!

    1. TRUE THAT!!


    Deadman, love the questions, but it takes too much concentration to keep the numbers straight. Suggestion: Add each question as a comment, so we can reply to each indivdually. If you want to summarize the questions in the body, you could link each one to its corresonding comment.

    On 10, which is all that I have the energy for right now, I think that Arkansas, Tennessee, and W. Virginia have been trending red more slowly than the other southern states, which peaked under GW and trended back blue under Obama. AR, TN, and WV had been bluer than the others, so the trend was not complete. Plus racism.


    interesting ... people seem to be responding, which i love! ... you think i'd get more if i did it that way? i'll try your suggestion next time.

    interesting point on 10, but given that the south has been trending red for a few decades now, i don't know if buy that those states have been that far behind ...


    Not sure if it will be more popular, but I'll have an easier time following it.


    Yeah, I like Genghis' suggestion, too.  I've read all the way through the comments and have now completely forgotten the original questions.  'Cept there was something about Santa Clause. 

    I have two comments about Santa.  1. I can't remember if anyone actually told me, but I figured out that my parents didn't believe in Santa.  So I decided to prove to them that he did, indeed, exist -- by stocking their stalkings myself.  Heartbreaking moment?  My mom, who recognized the materials for the hand-made necklace I'd left, saying, "Oh, Paige, honey, this is lovely!"  2. Can't say as I've made out to play with them yet, but I love knowing that hundreds of drunk santas run amok every year in most major cities.


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