MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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You GO, Peg!
Haven't read her book on debt. Is it good?
by quinn esq (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 2:45am
One of my favorite authors. Great perspective, often lost in the scramble for quantitative solutions to the current economic crisis. Thanks for the link.
by miguelitoh2o (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 3:37am
My first favorite author (now, there are too many to pick)! I've read every novel except her most recent. Thanks for the link.
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 11:52am
Peg? Personal friend? (Dinner or late night conversation must be fascinating.) If so, lucky you. Which reminds me of a very funny book written by Carl Hiaasen called Lucky You.
The reference I made was not to a book but an editorial. Waiting for her next book; hoping that it will be available for Christmas.
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 1:08pm
Orlando: Do you read Ellen Gilchrist? Deep south version of Atwood. Short story collections can be read out of order, but novels best read chronologically as characters repeat. Would be interested to know your opinion.
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 1:11pm
You're welcome. Any 'rec for an author you like as well?
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 1:12pm
I haven't read Gilchrist, but I will put her on my list.
Some of my favorites, in the Atwood vein:
Ann Patchett (Bel Canto, The Magician's Assistant)
Barbara Kingsolver (everything)
Jane Austen
Jane Smiley (A Thousand Acres, Horse Heaven)
Amy Tan (everything)
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 1:16pm
Years ago, starting with Virginia Woolf and Rebecca West, I started compiling a "canon" of modern and contemporary female authors (lost all the books in the hurricane, but never mind).
So many books; so little time... Love, alphabetically: A.S. Byatt, Margaret Drabble, Gail Godwin, Barbara Kingsolver, Iris Murdoch, Carol Shields, Amy Tan (I just finished Tan's Saving Fish From Drowning and thought the dark whimsy in it made it her best so far.) And, always Austen.
We could keep this thread going forever -- giving everyone a break from the election countdown tension.
Other entries?
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 1:30pm
I read Carol Shields The Stone Diaries years ago. The characters were so emotionally detached, I didn't find it compelling, so I've never read anything else.
I forgot Isabelle Allende on my list and I also think Tracey Chevalier is wonderful.
This past year, I've done quite a bit of driving, so I listened to The Last Days of Dogtown, by Anita Diamant and The Lovely Bones by Alice Sebold. Listening was an entirely different experience, but I loved both stories.
I could talk about books all day long. I prefer the topic to politics by about 1,000,000%!
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 2:01pm
Oops. I need to learn how to do the HTML coding.
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 2:02pm
Doris Lessing. I started with her Canopus in Argos series, eventually read everything she wrote.
by Tom Wright (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 2:33pm
No no, not a friend. I just remember laughing when hearing her referred to on CBC as "Peg" by her friends. She is so much in the canon here, taught in schools for 30 years, that suddenly to hear that "Peg" just made me laugh. Unexpected.
She apparently has a new book out called "Payback: Debt and the Shadow Side of Wealth," which I think just came out last month. It's on Amazon.
by quinn esq (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 3:00pm
Adore Atwood. Thanks for the thread and the link... and the info on her new book!
Years ago I gave my feeble little brain a charley horse by reading:
-1984
-Handmaid's Tale
-Brave New World
Basically back to back to back to back... That hurt! Left a mark... more like a DENT, if you will.
I can't help but look around me and see that Unholy Trilogy everywhere...
by Ickyma (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 3:35pm
Another Canadian, who I assume you know as well, Robertson Davies. If you haven't read him, I highly recommend The Deptford Trilogy, although anything he has written is well worth your time. I just finished David Sedaris' When You Are Engulfed In Flames. Saw him speak recently and he will usually make you smile if not belly laugh.
by miguelitoh2o (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 3:37pm
I don't think you can go wrong with Pat Conroy, or John Irving. Even when Irving is bad he's good. Gonna try Gilcrist, though. Thanks for the tip.
by msa3 (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 3:45pm
Orlando: Give Carol Shields another go; no detachment in her last book, for sure. Lovely Bones was compelling -- and that ghostly narrative voice is the same device used by Amy Tan in Saving Fish From Drowning. I will try your other recs.
Is anyone else a fan of Annie Proulx?
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 4:16pm
There are too many to remember! The Shipping News is an all time favorite. Years ago, I read it back-to-back with A Thousand Acres. That was a good month!
And I agree about Saving Fish from Drowning, but I think The Bonesetter's Daughter is my favorite from Tan.
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 4:22pm
I highly rec'd Snow and My Name is Red by the Turkish writer, Orham Pamuk. Both are very different. Both wonderful.
I could name a bunch of other people, mostly in translation. I tend to read novelists from outside the US.
by TheraP (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 4:52pm
Shipping News was great, but didn't really end satisfactorily. I enjoyed The Sportswriter and Independence Day. Now I've got a copy of Lay of the Land next to my bed. Maybe I'll get a chance to read it after the election.
by Donal (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 4:56pm
Up next for me is Water for Elephants. We've got a date for November 6th. :)
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 5:06pm
Snow was amazing. It's pretty ambitious to weave a story of love, religion, politics, culture, poetry and weather. It definitely deserved the Nobel Prize.
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 5:08pm
Salman Rushdie. Tom Robbins. Neal Stephenson. Matt Ruff. Older? Thomas Wolfe. Northrop Frye. Michael Ventura's 80's/90's essays. Nietzsche. Anything to explode the hard-wired grooves cut in the mind. Atwood never did it for me, I'm afraid. Too cold. Like Alex Colville's paintings. Interesting, but not enough warmth.
by quinn esq (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 5:19pm
I read it a second time. You can see the plotting better. And the way the snow theme is like a musical leit motif, but it didn't have the same emotional impact the second time.
But, yes, he absolutely deserved the Nobel for that. Have you read his Nobel speech? Wonderful! Also the Nobel speech by Doris Lessing. Very moving. And it almost seems as if literature laureates want to explain "how" they write and what inner forces impel a particular writer to write.
I go through phases. Sometimes a fiction phase. Right now I'm in a non-fiction phase.
by TheraP (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 5:19pm
I particularly loved her Stories from Africa.
by TheraP (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 5:20pm
You like to read how you write!! I totally would have guessed Rushie and Robbins. You probably won't be surprised to learn that I struggle to follow both!
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 6:18pm
That's the main advantage of having a quadrophenic personality - nobody can follow you if you don't want them to.
Seriously, it's more like this, O. I find most "thought" - and most writing - offers almost nothing in the way of new knowledge, insight. We all find this as we grow older. The connections get reinforced, the chutes of thought get carved into our minds. More and more we feel, " I KNOW what's coming."
So... I just push myself to get OUT of those connections whenever I can. Writers who do that, I've just come to appreciate more and more. And I didn't start that way - I started very conservative. But once they pop me out of the usual chute, I find that the other possible connections, ideas, networks, paths, number in the tens, then hundreds, then thousands. Which is overwhelming for me, and confusing, yes. Makes me irritable sometimes. But you have to have difference to learn something new.
Which is my defence for liking writers that I find "hard to follow," and for writing that way myself sometimes. It's not just to be an irritating bastard (though there's always that), it's to get out there where there's something to be learned.
by quinn esq (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:07pm
I didn't say I didn't find value in their writing, just that I find them difficult to read. For me, it's the stories and characters that resonate most. But it doesn't mean I don't try. I've been trying to finish Fierce Invalids from Hot Climates for three years. :)
by Orlando (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:35pm
Is that written by Sara Gruen? Earlier this year I read Riding Lessons and Flying Changes, both of which I think she wrote. Both were well-written page turners -- in part because the riding details were so authentic -- but I hope that she will ease up on the melodrama which struck me as an author asking herself anxiously: " Is it interesting enough? Rec'd though for anyone who loves horses and words.
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:43pm
Hey M --
Impossible to live in Charleston without crossing paths with Conroy and his cronies at some point; wish everyone could be there to hear his stories told in a garden on a summer night.
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:51pm
I was dumbstruck by Snow. What a way with words.
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 8:52pm
I have been thinking of A Handmaid's Tale for some time now in this campaign, when I think about McCain. I never thought her book prophetic, until now. Now I see it as a terrible cautionary tale. I will never forget the chill that went up my spine when I watched him form quotation marks in the air with his grizzled fingers and mutter, contemptuously: "Women's health"
It was as much a moment of Truth as any encounter between raging bull and Matador.
by c4Logic (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 9:46pm
Invalids isn't much good - earlier stuff only I think.
Here's my best shot today, post-dentist, about bottled water. Fine literature. ;-)
by quinn esq (not verified) on Thu, 10/23/2008 - 9:54pm
That's a robust list of favorites you have there, Quinn. Wow. I'm rubbing my eyes and looking for aspirin. Or maybe alcohol. Sure, I get Robbins & like Wolfe (they're southern, after all) and misspent a year of my life in love with Nietzsche. But Rushdie and Neal Stephenson?
Shouldn't be surprised, though. I'd have bet cash money that you read -- or maybe even channel -- Joyce. I had you down for Bertrand Russell, and thought you might be the only person we know who could recite The Love Song of J.Alfred Prufrock, verbatim. I even suspected that you might be a person who actually read Proust. So I agree with Orlando; whatever your picks, they were bound to be both fascinating and heavy weather.
Throw us a life raft -- ever read a mystery or a beach book?
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 12:21am
No beach books or mysteries. My candy is scifi, or non-fiction. Neal Stephenson because he's the best I know at being able to extrapolate not just our tech, but economics, politics, and make me laugh. (Also a brilliant historian in his own way.) But mostly, books have to make me laugh - either from imagination or insight or insult or whatever. Which all of the above do. Eliot I just read because he's the poet of the Age. I read Russell & Whitehead at the same time, but back in my 20's. I used to have 20 or 30 books on the go at once - always philosophy or non-fiction - and then, after some years, I just felt like there was nothing (or almost nothing) new. So then it became reading poets & novels & scifi the same way. * Side story on Joyce. An early (Irish) girlfriend decided I should be, needed to be, HAD to be the next Joyce. Which - natch - got under my skin, so I decided to never read him. Haven't budged since. True. *
by quinn esq (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 12:46am
You just sent a chill up my spine, c4. McCain and his contempuous mutter, "Women's health," really was a cautionary tale, and a paralyzing moment of truth.
What do you read to dispel fear?
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 1:22am
Yeah, Sarah Gruen. I don't think it's a happy tale. But it comes highly recommended.
by Orlando (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 1:23am
Dr. Seuss. Nothing says "everything's gonna be okay" like Green Eggs and Ham.
by Orlando (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 1:26am
WW, thanks for posting this! It was a welcome diversion and a welcome reminder that in a couple of weeks, I'll have my Sunday afternoons back to curl up in a blanket and read. I can't wait.
by Orlando (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 1:32am
Good one, Orlando. Green eggs --think I'll go make some. Thanks.
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 1:33am
Thanks. What are credit cards for if not for a book about debt?
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 2:39am
Line of the day, WW.
by quinn esq (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 3:27am
Lately--I know it sounds weird--I have been re-reading a lot of apocalyptic science fiction: The Drowned World, and The Crystal World, by JG Ballard. Also recently reread the Manchurian Candidate. I guess this sort of like the homeopathic approach. I figure, in my magical way thinking, having given up on reason, that the best way to assure a new dawn is to immerse myself in the Hour of the Wolf.
by c4Logic (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 3:32pm
Quinn:
Imo, the degree of detachment or fierce engagement in Atwood seems to be depend on the book. But I absolutely agree with you about the static affect and effect of Alex Colville. (It's the same response I have to Andrew Wyeth.)
On the other hand, I saw some great paintings in Nova Scotia. Rosenberg, who painted in the early 1900's; and many who painted in the 30's and 40' -- most of those had tons of energy and reminded me of the best of our WPA painters. The name MacDonald comes to mind (although why wouldn't it, for any topic) as does Lismore/Lismer(?) and Zwieker. There were two women of that approximate era I noticed: Day and Wainwright. And someone from the 60's -- is there a Cook? Tuck, from the 90's caught my eye as did an abstract painter who incorporates satellite images into his work.
Where were we? Oh, yes, books...
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 4:20pm
I think Orlando was right, C4. Just say no to apocalypse and yes to Dr. Seuss. The green eggs were great comfort.
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 4:34pm
Thanks to everyone who played. And thank all of you for the reading recs to explore through the winter.
Shall we play with painters/paintings another day? Photographers?
by wwstaebler (not verified) on Fri, 10/24/2008 - 4:37pm