The Bishop and the Butterfly: Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age

    Just taking a stand

    By Flavius on Fri, 07/01/2016 - 9:50pm |

    As an unequivocal  Hillary supporter I think Bernie is quite right not to endorse her until the convention.

    Not just ¨ within his rights¨ but right. Full stop.

    He was not a marginal contender he was the major opposition. Not a frivolous exercise but something to which he devoted a year of his life at a time when that commodity is in dwindling supply. He has earned the right to be heard at the convention and to be allowed to make his case with respect to the platform ,meaningless as that document will ,as usual, be.

    Which I write even though I almost certainly personally disagree with every change he´Hll try to introduce.

    Fair´s fair .He´s paid his dues, end of story.

    Almost.

    In addition his supporters have also 

    BTW I do not feel that Bernie and his followers ¨right" to stay in the contest until the convention includes the right to continue attacking HIllary. That part of the contest is Over.   

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    Bernie Sanders and his surrogates are not going to stop attacking Hillary Clinton. Sanders is taking that tattack to the Democratic National Convention. 


    by rmrd0000 on Sat, 07/02/2016 - 11:12am

    If Bernie had joined with Hillary and started campaigning for her; had he shown any interest or desire to work with her to get shared goals accomplished, he would have a respected place at the Convention.  Instead he refers to her campaign as "them," and to himself and his supporters as "we."  He had every opportunity to make this a powerful coalition, but he is not interested in that because he would not be the leader, and it also would have required some compromise.  He is incapable of the latter, and dissatisfied with the former.  

    I might feel as you do, Flavius if he had not said such derogatory things about her during the campaign.  Rather than run on his issues, he devolved to calling her "unqualified" based on an incorrect headline in WAPO without even bothering to read the article.  (BTW the article was not about her being unqualified, but he defended himself for doing it because he "thought" she had said something negative about his pathetic interview with NY Magazine.). He has called her integrity into question numerous times, and repeatedly stated that if someone pays you for a speech it must be a quid pro quo.  And he got away with not putting his taxes out (like Trump) because he said at first he was too busy but then conveniently blamed it on Hillary because although she did publish her taxes for 30 years, she didn't publish speeches because Bernie decided she should.

    I have no illusions that any speech he gives will be anything other than a rehash of every other speech he has given.  In fact, it would be nice if they could put in a floor-drop, or even some kind of hook to pull him off the stage if he becomes totally unhinged.

    If he had behaved as a gentleman, and had stuck to issues; if he hadn't harmed the Democratic Party that he admittedly used; then yes...he could wait.  (I also completely believe that the theft of Hillary's information from the DNC was intentional and that he knew it.)   He has used up all the good will that I felt for him when all this started.  I won't give him a break because he doesn't give anyone ELSE a break.


    by CVille Dem on Sat, 07/02/2016 - 1:48pm

    I don't recall anyone saying this about Hillary in 08. Even though she fought Obama to a dead heat in the popular vote and her margin in pledged delegates was much closer than Sanders.


    by ocean-kat on Sat, 07/02/2016 - 2:37pm

    I believe Bernie is acting out of conviction and I respect that.In many cases I more agree with him but if  that were  100% I would still be supporting her. Partly because she's more electable but more because she's a woman.  Not because women are entitled to have their turn but- however sexist this sounds- a woman would bring certain ingrained sensibilities to the position.


    by Flavius on Sun, 07/03/2016 - 9:48am

    The wagging finger raised into the clear, endless blue sky, the beady eyes, the angle-you cannot see the mouth, but do you need to see it?

    Or hear that speech again?

    A trap door..... would anyone who has heard this a million times care if the lever was pulled?

    The photo sums up Sanders, and his long, lonely, self satisfying and unproductive political career. Hopefully something good will come of this campaign.


    by NCD on Sun, 07/03/2016 - 11:17am

    You call that "endless blue sky"? Looks a bit gloomy dark clouds to me... maybe we should vote the Jesuit party.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/03/2016 - 11:53am

    Well Plan B/indictment is off the list. What's up for Plan C? Meteor showers?


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 07/05/2016 - 3:02pm