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    Nuances of the Movement

    In my last blog one poster made the assertion that GA would produce a strong statement condemning and repudiating violence.  Yet I found this report from James Vann on the Friday session, which began:

    At the general assembly of Occupy Oakland last night (Friday, Nov 4), a task presented from the earlier facilitators' meeting was open discussion by the assembly -- in small groupings -- on the question:  "How to Grow Occupy Oakland into a Long-Term Sustainable Movement."

    Later in the report:

    During the report-back session, few small groups made what I considered positive or doable suggestions ("take over city hall;" "make city pay for meals and housing;" "displace the city council," etc).  However, in what appeared an orchestrated tactic, each time a small group recommended "taking over vacant buildings," it drew the loudest applause.  Alternately, when there was any criticism of violence, or mention of non-violent actions, the dissident members, and their compatriots dispersed throughout, yelled out almost in unison, "diversity of tactics, diversity of tactics."  It is clear that the dissident anarchist group of some 150 or so is deeply embedded within Occupy Oakland.  (The morning's news programs gave the police breakdown of Wednesday's arrestees as about 31 percent Oakland residents, approximately 10% out-of-state, and the majority from other cities and communities.)

    His blog concludes:

    Clearly, the present situation poses an extremely serious problem for Occupy Oakland.  Moreover, a wide disconnect exists between #Occupy goals and anarchists' objectives.  The anarchists see #Occupy as a "resistance movement" requiring a vanguard to wage war against oppressive forces (the police).  Alternately, #Occupy's basic objective is to expose the greed, corruption, and attendant policies of Wall Street investors, bankers, and mega-corporations that extract more and more the wealth of the country, while the 99% and the needs of the many increasingly suffer with less and less -- and to cause policy and program changes to restore equitable wealth and resource distribution. 
     
    During the dissident actions on "General Strike Day," non-violent OO members who attempted to halt acts of property destruction being perpetrated by the anarchist group, had their own safety threatened with claw hammers.  The dissident anarchist faction is deeply embedded throughout and has strongly expressed its integration and inclusion as a legitimate part of OO.
     
    Given the open nature of OO; its consensus decision structure; and the lack of endorsed "leaders," it is unclear how OO will deal with the internal situation of a faction that is structurally committed to an agenda of "resistance," inherently contradictory to the aims of the #Occupy movement.  Unaddressed, this dilemma threatens the existence of at least Occupy Oakland itself.  Clearly, #Occupy, and specifically Occupy Oakland, is faced with a dilemma moving on incompatible paths that at present seems only likely to continue diverging.

    There are those who want to make everyone involved in the Occupy movement as the next Rosa Parks in order to sustain their narrative regarding the Oakland Police.  There are those who want to ignore certain elements within the movement because they believe in the larger goals of the movement.  But these factions which would Rosa Parks would not agree with in my opinion need to be acknowledged and addressed.  Otherwise it undermines the whole movement.

    Comments

    On a variant of Poe's law, especially considering what we've read elsewhere and the very significant motive, I think one can't rule out the possibility of the anarchists being plants, although it's more likely (if it's not organic) they're dupes who don't know who's pulling their strings.

    This is one of the problems of the "consensus"/Wikipedia-style decision making. On-line one at least has access to records to detect sock puppets and other forms of manipulation (although meat puppets are a whole 'nother thing). Off-line, the "consensus" approach of OWS, while admirable, seems like it's easy to abuse, like the Senate's filibuster, but on steroids.


    Then again it may just be possible in a region with over 7 million people, there may be a couple hundred anarchists who are going to get involved in such an action and participate in the GA voting procedure.

    And then what it can be said for a movement where a few hundred dupes can show up and alter the show?


    It is absolutely possible, and in fact, more likely that it's organic (which doesn't mean they can't still be considered "useful idiots" by the right, although perhaps I'm stretching that term). After all, when the number reaches a hundred, keeping a conspiracy quiet (even if it's manipulative rather than direct) becomes that much harder.

    My point was precisely what you wrote in your last paragraph. I.e., that because of the procedures (I don't blame the movement, but the procedures, although arguably it can be difficult to separate the two), a small contingent of people can disrupt the whole process.


    The approach I am taking is to avoid whining about how ignorant and misguided some of the people in the movement are, and to try to find ways to educate them.  Almost all of the occupations maintain online forums where you can post thoughts and information on whatever issues you think are important to stress.  There are other avenues for participation as well.

    This movement is now a well-established social presence and is a fact of life.  It can end up as a force for good or for ill.  If you want it to be a force for good, it is best to find some way of engaging with them.


    That's a useful approach most of the time, but it is unlikely to work for strong anarchists. One of my childhood friends falls into this category, and he "knows" that we're the "useful idiots", just like I "know" that they are. So, no, whining won't help, but I think what we're doing here is trying to educate them that requiring a consensus on important decisions such as whether violence will be denounced is not the best approach. Presumably, a two-thirds majority would agree that violence is not the best tactic, and shouldn't that be enough? If not two-thirds, what about three-fourths?


    Yes, I certainly agree the movement would really benefit by adopting some plain vanilla democracy.


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