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    Romney's Not A Witch

     

     

    Presumed Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has more than an “animal cruelty problem.”

    He has a personality problem, a likeability problem, and a passion problem—to say nothing of his “consistency problem,” his “1 percent-status problem” and his “Mormon problem.”

    He may have a “rugged jawline,” perfectly coiffed hair that has “gone gray in just the right places,” and boatloads of money—which allowed him to make generous contributions to virtually every politician at every level of government in New Hampshire prior to his primary victory there—but Romney comes up short pretty much everywhere else.

    Which is troubling, particularly when the only thing a Republican presidential candidate has to do to get elected in this country is smile, kiss a few babies and regurgitate the time-tested talking points of the GOP’s master narrative.

    Since the Republican Party’s Reagan-era reconstruction—when publicly anti-science conservatives working at furtively science-oriented think tanks began studying and applying the psychological revelations in brain research to issue-framing, subliminal messaging, and positive and negative neural networking—spinning a personal vignette out of the GOP’s family-values, pro-capitalism, anti-government agenda was enough to get elected.

    It worked for George H.W. Bush (with a little help from Lee Atwater) and George W. Bush (with a little help from Karl Rove), and it very well may have worked for Bob Dole and John McCain if their handlers had forced them to pop a pill to minimize the conspicuous side-effects of being angry, self-entitled curmudgeons.

    It’s definitely not working for the former Massachusetts governor, if only because—as far as the average American voter can tell—Willard Romney the candidate is as emotionally formal, prim, and buttoned-up as his forename suggests.

    The truth is, there’s only one reason that Romney has attained frontrunner status in this race, and it has nothing to do with his hierarchical rank within the Republican establishment.

    It has everything to do with his competition.

    Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum is far more consistent in his conservatism. Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is far more intelligent. Congressman Ron Paul is far more inspiring. And Texas Gov. Rick Perry is, or was, far more charming. (His withdrawal from the race proves that a leathery smile isn’t an equal substitute for brains.)

    But as voters are now learning, a Santorum White House would mean a national ban on cunnilingus, non-missionary coital positions, and any other forms of recreational sex—even between consenting adults.

    A Gingrich White House would mean any liberal employed by the federal government would be fired, any judge who makes decisions Gingrich deems “controversial” would be arrested, and “invented” Palestinian people would be no more.

    President Paul would turn the Blair House into a brothel, and in the ashes of the demolished Federal Reserve building would rise a statue of The Thinker with a heroin needle stuck in his arm, because real liberty means living righteously in a country that institutes lawlessness.

    With a candidate pool as shallow as this, it’s no wonder Romney’s in the lead. The choice is clear: vote for the die-hard teabagger, the ethically challenged philanderer, or the staunchly anti-government Libertarian, or hold your nose and cast your ballot for the wooden millionaire who strapped his dog to the roof of his station wagon for 12 hours during a drive up to the family cottage on the shores of Lake Huron.

    Politics is perception, as they say, and Romney’s got a perception problem.

    He states publicly that the $360,000 in speaking fees he made in one year was “not very much” money. He’s said that anyone who criticizes his record as a “vulture capitalist” is merely envious of his riches. And when the media found out that he was nearly quadrupling the size of his 3,000-square-foot seaside luxury home in La Jolla, Calif., Romney’s staff brushed it off as a miscalculation of the actual size. “The ‘quadrupling’ measurement of added nonliving space, including the basement and garage.”

    You’d think someone within the campaign would tell their candidate that building a mansion in the middle of a campaign isn’t likely to bring flattering press coverage—particularly when millions of people have lost their jobs and their homes, when the average middle-class income is on the decline, when poverty is at 15-year highs…

    Not to demonize the man, but someone needs to explain to Romney that other than a footnote in the political history books, there’s no prize for winning the party’s nomination, and if he can’t learn in the next few months how to look and sound like an everyday American, he doesn’t stand a chance in November.

    As his defeat in the Iowa caucuses and his expected defeat in the South Carolina primary prove, Romney has more baggage as a presidential candidate than Christine O’Donnell had running for Senate.

    That’s not to say he’s a witch. He’s you, only richer.

    In a country where millions of citizens are protesting the growing gap between the rich and the poor, where 75 percent of citizens are Protestant and Catholic, and where 60 percent of households own pets, it’s not exactly an asset to be an awkward, animal-abusing millionaire (250 times over) who believes  believes that after death he’ll be deified as a joint-heir to Jesus, receive a mortal body, and rule over his own planet in a celestial kingdom populated by “spirit wives” and “spirit children.”

    That’s not exactly mainstream.

    These are the facts. For Romney, they’re worth knowing, if only because his competition already has them memorized.

     

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    Ah, yes, 'poor' Myth.  He can't debate or relate.

    In a country where millions of citizens are protesting the growing gap between the rich and the poor, where 75 percent of citizens are Protestant and Catholic, and where 60 percent of households own pets, it’s not exactly an asset to be an awkward, animal-abusing millionaire (250 times over) who believes believes that after death he’ll be deified as a joint-heir to Jesus, receive a mortal body, and rule over his own planet in a celestial kingdom populated by “spirit wives” and “spirit children.”

    The vast majority really have no idea about what the Mormon Church's true practices and ideology encompass.  Nor do most have factual knowledge of the businesses the Church owns and controls (including healthcare entities, financial services, et al.).  All of which Romney has vested interests in ensuring their (as well as his own) ongoing financial gains. Only the very foolish and/or naive could believe he would not use his position as POTUS to the very least ensure their ongoing success.

    He may not be witch, but he certainly is a charlatan and false political prophet.

    Appreciate this excellent post.


     

    Only the very foolish and/or naive could believe he would not use his position as POTUS to the very least ensure their ongoing success.

    You are correct. In the single-most important professional role Romney has chosen to cite as the foundation of credibility in his bid for the presidency--that of being an alleged "job creator" at Bain Capitol*--he used his position to filter money to the church. 

    See: "In Bain Deals, Romney Gave Stock to Mormon Church"--Reuters

    * because his reputation as governor of the liberal state of Massachusetts isn't conservative enough?


    Okay!

    O'Donnell scares the hell out of me!

    I mean at my age I can only imagine the wonders she worries about.

    But I recall those wonders.

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


    In a country...where 75 percent of citizens are Protestant and Catholic...it’s not exactly an asset to be an awkward...millionaire (250 times over) who believes that after death he’ll be deified as a joint-heir to Jesus, receive a mortal body, and rule over his own planet in a celestial kingdom populated by “spirit wives” and “spirit children.”

    You say this as if you, the Protestants and the Catholics know something the Mormons don't. 


    Why are you assuming that who posted this blog is protestant or catholic?

    My interpretation of this portion of the post is that the majority of the GOP shares (by choice) the label Conservative Christian.


    ...that would be an accurate interpretation, as the author is neither Catholic nor Protestant. He merely stated the most prominent religious affiliations of citizens of the United States of America.


    I assume no such thing.  In fact, my assumption leans toward the contrary.  Here it is again, broken down for you:

    You say this (as if ) you, the Protestants and the Catholics know something the Mormons don't.

    And sure, go ahead, interpret it as you like.  But I'm not going to pretend MP isn't taking a jab at the Latter Day Saints.


    Try as you will to debate it, but the FACT is that three-quarters of Americans are Protestants and Catholics.

     

    Writing something that some people already know isn't the same as "taking a jab" at them. The point is, Romney's campaign hasn't addressed the areas of his candidacy that don't jive with the mainstream of his own party, let alone the general electorate. 


    It's a good piece, but it might've been even stronger without the swipe at Mormons. As Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins like to point out, it's just as easy to frame mainstream Christianity as being silly (talking snakes, zombie saviors, and what-not) as to frame Mormonism that way. That said, many of us here (including me) have made inappropriate jokes about Mormons, Protestants, and Catholics, so you're not alone.


    Yeah, and let's make sure Muslim political candidates address all that business with the 72 virgins too.


    But as voters are now learning, a Santorum White House would mean a national ban on cunnilingus, non-missionary coital positions, and any other forms of recreational sex—even between consenting adults.

    I got my red editing pencil out because this jumped out at me.

    "...even between consenting adults".

    EVEN? Even among consenting adults? He would go that far?

    But as voters are now learning, a Santorum White House would mean a national ban on cunnilingus, non-missionary coital positions, and any other forms of recreational sex—even between consenting adults.

    Among what other groups besides "consenting adults" should these activities be approved?

     


    None. It's an emphasis. Santorum believes that sex of any kind should be for procreational purposes only, not recreational, "even between consenting adults."


    It may be for emphasis purposes, but the word "even" in this context not only implies that there are other groups, but also, while the reader wouldn't be surprised or assumes Santorum would ban it for these other groups, the reader would either be surprised or tend to forget the group of consenting adults are also included in the groups banned by Santroum's law(s). 
     

    There is the implication also that while the reader might approve of this ban for these groups of non-adults and/or non-consenting sexual partners, consenting adults is going too far.

     

    Just saying.


    "Consenting animals"? Hell, if we look into 4-H groups and Artificial Insemination programs, we have a number of exceptions to consider.

    Where I'm conflicted is whether ejaculating on dead Taliban would be encouraged as patriotic, or despoiling oneself via an unclean non-procreative act. I'm sure our nation's moral leaders such as Britt Hume and Rick Santorum can help us through this moral quagmire - whether to Zip Up, or Drop Trou

    (can make it easy, just give us an ummmm..... Sissy Hankshaw-sized hand signal, or a modified or enlarged Siskel & Ebert as your want, which way is the right way, heaven-bound or devil influenced?)


    But as voters are now learning, a Santorum White House would mean a national ban on cunnilingus, non-missionary coital positions, and any other forms of recreational sex—even between consenting adults.

    That's silly.  What is he going to do?  Issue a Presidential Sexual Proclamation?


    We are the 69.


    Stung by defeat, Romney considers adultery

    OMFG! Borrowitz just mocked Romney for not cheating on his wife! We should all grab our tissue boxes and take to the streets to scream and wail like it's the fucking Rapture--because it may very well be, what with all the moral repugnance of someone saying something about anything that might possibly hurt the feelings of some overly sensitive crybaby. We're condemning those who make general observations about how retarded (AH! HE SAID RETARDED! BLASPHEMER!) it is that the Republican establishment thought the American people would fall in line behind a millionaire dog-abusing prick whose prophet promises him his own planet in the afterlife?

    Jesus...no wonder Democrats have spent the better part of 40 years LOSING. If you're too afraid of speaking up for fear of being brow-beaten by the PC police, what's the point of even ACTING like you care about America. I'm sorry if any of you are Mormon. It's a weird religion. Probably no weirder than any other, if you can look at it objectively, but for the 75 percent of Americans who don't think their religion is weird and DO think the concept of spirit children is, well, you figure it out--but do it silently, because you can't actually state it aloud or in print or online without the namby pamby bleeding hearts who abhor anything that makes them acknowledge how politics REALLY works, and what latent social and cultural stereotypes lead to the decisions that 99 percent of Americans make when they're in the voting booth.


    Oh Muddy, you make me laugh out loud.  Just showed the missus your assertion of courage--behind your screen name.   You and just about everyone else on here, including me most of the time, use a fake name.  So your assertion of courage for slandering Mormonism is really a joke.  I have nothing against fake names, understand it all too well.  Indeed, I have represented real folks for things they've written on the internet.  And I've lectured on issues relating to social networking in the employment context.  But please don't pretend that you or anyone else who doesn't use their real name has much, if anything, to fear about posting on the internet.  Get a life on that one dude.

    And please, this is not about PC.   The fact of the matter is that this is a simple truism.  You substitute Mormons with Jews, or Catholics, or Moslems, and by most accounts, PC and otherwise, you're garbage--and rightfully so.

    I love it--you're spewing this trash like you've experienced anything, and then you assert that folks who call you on this smegma don't know anything about politics.  Please.  Among the several points you miss is that some of us with actual life experience know all too well how ugly dog whistles and bigotry work in politics. You act as if you're onto something profound.  Oh please.

    Pathetic.

     

     


    Haha. Good point(s). Except where they fall apart. For one, I'm not hiding behind a screen name, as most people here know after the big fiasco a few months ago when I was "outed," even though such an investigation required only a quick Google search of "Muddy Politics," my "screen name."

     

    Second, how quick you are to accuse me of discrimination in one paragraph, then in the next to undermine your own argument by making a rather broad claim that I'm inexperienced and lacking profundity...which is the same tired ageism argument some of your friends here have employed when they couldn't actually engage in a civil conversation about religion in American politics.

     

    Gingrich, a serial philanderer who was booted from Congress for ethics violations, just won the South Carolina primary. They chose him over Romney, and nearly half of all voters said religion was a major factor in that decision. 

     

    Finally, I agree with your only real point--about Jews and "Moslems," as you call them--but the point itself is rather weakly constructed. A Jew or a Muslim indeed would have a difficult time getting elected in this country, and saying as much isn't bigotry. Being a Catholic isn't as big a deal, I don't believe, for two reasons: 1.) that social barrier was shattered by JFK's presidency; and 2.) there are millions more Catholics in America than Jews or Muslims or Mormons. But substituting Mormonism with Judaism would lead to the same conclusion, would it not? (I don't mean the "you're garbage" conclusion.) All you've proven here is that if I wrote something about a Jewish presidential candidate that you felt compelled to disagree with, but against which you couldn't mount a logical counter-argument, the same character attacks would be the first arrows out of your quiver, because that's all you've got. Never mind that the "Romney's not a witch" post contains not one single argument about Romney's religion, but five points about the difficulty he will have getting elected president. As tonight's S.C. primary has proven, and, arguably, as the Iowa caucuses demonstrated as well, Romney's issues are not singular, nor are they problems specific to his general election odds.

     


    I'm fully satisfied that I have done here what I intended to do.  I have nothing against discussing religion and politics, but that is hardly what you've done here and certainly not previously.  You've practiced what is ugly.  Those who wish to believe otherwise are free to do so, and give you yet another benefit of the doubt.  I think you've had enough benefits of the doubt.   When you begin to write about religion and politics for the purpose of the type of analysis that makes this a wonderful place to exchange ideas, count me in. . .maybe.  When you continue to play politics on here, and are ugly about it, and if I have the time or the inclination to bother responding, I'll write whatever I wish in the style I please.  And you can take solace in accusing my suit of being empty and my ideas of being hollow.  As I said to your buddy below, whatever rocks your boat.


    Well, I still contend he hasn't done anything ugly.

    Mitt has a religion problem, and that problem is he's not Rick Santorum with a completely knee-jerk conservative Protestant agenda to please some 17% of the masses. If Santorum had any other skills, he'd be up to 40%, but he hasn't.

    Gingrich can pretend to be on the road to forgiveness, and because he's the right denomination, he can be rich, censured, have a diamond account at Macy's, get lobbyist payouts from Fannie Mae and still he's at the front of the pack. Did Gingrich actually release his taxes? No, everything's buried in lump payouts with no itemized sourcing. But 43% of those who vote religion as important supported Gingrich - he's got his Lutheran, Southern Baptist & Roman Catholic roots covered, and the forgive-and-washed-of-sin works especially well in the south.

    I think Muddy overstates the dog bit - the only one who seems to really care is Gail Collins, who's written about it 40 times. As for conservatives, no, this is just one of those National Lampoon Summer Vacation bits and you move on.

    So basically Mitt is an outsider. Religion is one aspect, his actual success in business - however rapacious - is another. And he's not from the fringe of the fringe of the Republican party. Religion isn't his only problem, but it forms part of the trinity.

     


    Gingrich won the South Carolina primary as a Catholic, with 8 percent more than McCain (a Baptist) did in '08.


    McCain competed against Baptist Huckabee.

    The only Baptist in this contest was Ron Paul - Santorum is also Catholic.

    Oddly, Gingrich did best among evangelicals, not among Catholics.

    And someone noted that Catholicism & Mormons are both rather conservative, and more welcome to the GOP than say Methodists.


    But you don't actually care who wins do you?   In all of your several piece of political horserace analysis here, I don't think any of them have argued forthrightly in defense of any particular moral or policy positions.


    Bruce, get a life, this is all too boring but nasty as well.

    People often don't use their real name because they don't want assholes calling them "garbage" in real life situations, or having the slightest controversial position discussing these sensitive topics thrown back in real life as "racist" or other slurs.

    Or just don't want to make it easier to get on some don't fly list or government tracking list (yeah, it doesn't stop it - they've got the tools -  but why make life easier?)

    So stick to real points, please, not internet Miss Manners.


    You know what IS garbage? Calling someone "garbage".   

    I thought we had moderators on this site? 


    Muddy, you will no doubt be taken to task for the dreadful things you've written here, but actually it's less calculated and slicky-boy than some of the other pieces I've seen from you, and in that sense it's quite refreshing--there's an opinion that comes through instead of something that's all tied up in journalistic knots.

    (And I think you are right about Mormonism--I'm sure it makes perfect sense if you've grown up with it, but if you haven't, it looks a bubble off plumb, just like any other religion looks to people who haven't grown up in it. Quite a few people are too busy just getting through life to really think through the idea that weirdness seems to go along with religion, period, rather than one in particular.

    These are funny times, though--who knew that Mitt's money might be more of a turnoff to Republican voters than his religion?)


    Thank you, Erica, for the constructive feedback.


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