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    Taking Our Country Back

    Imagine John Adams, marked by the same man for hanging a decade earlier, for his role in the rebellion of the English colonies against the Crown. Yet now it was June, 1785 and he was presenting himself to King George III as the Ambassador of the United States to the Court of St. James. It is one of the most gripping scenes in David McCullough's magnificent book, and its dramatization in the television version was almost as good.

    The connection between these United States and what was Great Britain and is now the United Kingdom remains strong, though. It is from our history together, after all, that the foundations of our law---the common law as we have called it---were established and, of course, we still speak roughly the same language.

    To refer to "the Queen" without identifying which of several there still are in the world, means, in this country, no less than in Britain, Queen Elizabeth II, the daughter of a another King George: George VI. A movie about King George's battle with a speech impediment and his inspirational presence during World War II was widely praised last year and hugely successful in this country as well as the one where he actually was sovereign.

    His great grandson got married yesterday, as you may have heard. George VI was Albert or Bertie until he became King, so it is hardly certain what name Andrew would assume were he to become king or how his wife, now H.R.H. the Duchess of Cambridge would be, as they say, "styled." What is certain is that whatever its acknowledged faults and whatever the causes which led to our "separation" were the monarchy retains surprising force in former colonies ostensibly united in the belief that all men (and eventually all women) were created equal.

    And, indeed, our union of sovereign states, born by rebellion but with a significant disagreement that remained unresolved through independence, remains quite imperfect. By force of arms, the issue which divided us was resolved, at least under the law: including three amendments to the written Constitution we had substituted for the royal writ. One of those amendments enacted by the victors of "a great civil war" formally abolished the slavery and another established that

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside


    That means that a person born in this country, except to people serving under the flag of another country (such as diplomats) meets the Artilce II requirement that

    No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President


    Still, it might be expected that those who held other views, whose states joined the union based on their contrary opinions, and who were literally forced to adhere to laws passed after their defeat in battle, might resent having been required to accept what was unquestioningly not what they intended for the state formed in the eighteenth century or its union under the Constitution established in the last decade of that century.

    That resentment---the refusal to accept the legitimacy of what was decided not be reason or vote, but at gunpoint---has lasted to this day. While the proponents of slavery blew apart the Democratic Party as it existed just prior to the civil war and, sadly, allowed to reassert it substantial influence a decade or so following that war, those forces of reactionary thought, unhappy with the New Deal, even more unhappy when President Truman ordered that the military be desegregated and a Supreme Court did the same for public schools, and reaching the last straw when the civil and voting rights acts were enacted in the mid 1960s, turned to the party of Lincoln, and took over the Republican Party lock, stock and barrel.

    With the control of a political party---one which has enormous financial resources and, by control of the Supreme Court, the assurance that that advantage will have direct electoral consequences, they are doing again what they so successfully did in the relatively immediate aftermath of the civil war to subvert the consequneces of the military victory. So, for instance, if the Constitution was amended to provide that

    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude

    there were still many ways to keep Them, citizens only because the victorious forces in war said they were, from actually voting. And, though one of those longstanding tricks, the poll tax, was finally abolished in 1964, almost one hundred years after the end of the civil war, there were still many ways to keep as close a form of enslavement active as President Johnson, himself a self described child of the south, addressed the Congress in 1965 and reminded Americans that:


    the harsh fact is that in many places in this country men and women are kept from voting simply because they are Negroes. Every device of which human ingenuity is capable has been used to deny this right. The Negro citizen may go to register only to be told that the day is wrong, or the hour is late, or the official in charge is absent. And if he persists, and if he manages to present himself to the registrar, he may be disqualified because he did not spell out his middle name or because he abbreviated a word on the application. And if he manages to fill out an application, he is given a test. The registrar is the sole judge of whether he passes this test. He may be asked to recite the entire Constitution, or explain the most complex provisions of State law. And even a college degree cannot be used to prove that he can read and write.

    For the fact is that the only way to pass these barriers is to show a white skin. Experience has clearly shown that the existing process of law cannot overcome systematic and ingenious discrimination. No law that we now have on the books -- and I have helped to put three of them there -- can ensure the right to vote when local officials are determined to deny it. In such a case our duty must be clear to all of us. The Constitution says that no person shall be kept from voting because of his race or his color. We have all sworn an oath before God to support and to defend that Constitution. We must now act in obedience to that oath.


    The legislation he supported, part of the proposals he inherited when his predecessor was murdered while visiting Texas, was enacted in 1965, no doubt, in part, due to the desire to fulfill the program of the President who was prevented from pursuing it by an assassin's bullet.

    Whether such legislation of not enacted then could pass today, it permitted enough people to register to vote as to enable the election as president of a man whose father was from Africa, and who had married a woman who lived in Hawaii. Their child, the President, was born there and, hence, was a native born American citizen. (He ran against a man born, not in a state, but in the Canal Zone, but there was no real argument that he was not qualified for the presidency as a natural born United States citizen.

    But it has never been necessary to teach a particular old dog any new tricks. A man whose father was black, and whose name is that of his father: Barack Hussein Obama, Junior, is not like us, he is not us, and thus should not be permitted to be president, even if a majority of the citizens allowed to vote, want him to be president.

    It is not hard to see that stereotypical southern sheriff who anybody who needed a haircut in the 1970s was sure to meet while travelling below thee Mason-Dixon line: and you can hear him say, "Now, boy, of course, if you are who you say you are, you sure could be president of the United States. But how do we know that you were born in this country? You call that a birth certificate? Why it don't look like any birth certificate I ever done see? What else ya got?"

    Is this too much of a cheap shot; too much "Cool Hand Luke" and too divorced from reality?

    No.

    And when a woman whose music has often been the subject of posts here, and who immigrated to this country from the Soviet Union when she was nine and her family could see no future in a country riddled with anti-semitism, saw all of this---including the segment posted above, she threw this little item up on Facebook:

    Regina Spektor
    Our president is being treated like crap by an entitled egomaniac and a bunch of ignorant racists like him.... "gets off his basketball court..."

    What was thrown back at this little post was both amazing and not. Sad, but confirming. The refugee from the Soviet Union---long a citizen of this country, though, and not one who takes lightly to criticism of her adopted country from those who live elsewhere, almost ruefully had to say, a few hours later:

    Regina Spektor
    i am amazed at the response to my own opinions being posted on my own facebook page. they are definitely strong and maybe i worded them harshly? it's hard to tell, cause i'm me and i know my intentions very well... I do wonder if this is the place for it all- it's not a dinner at a friend's house. it brings the ugliness out in how people treat each other. hmmmm...
    reg


    John Adams did not risk his neck for these people and for this garbage. And the fight against this mindless intolerance and these gross claims of superiority continues more than 230 years after our declaration of independence. It truly makes at least one person wonder if we might have been better off trying to work things out with the Crown.

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    Trump is for Trump; nobody else.

    People who cheer him on are fooling themselves if they think he gives on good damn about them.


    So, that Regina lady goes up on her facebook page - which has a decent following due to success using it to promote her music - calling those with whom she disagrees "ignorant racists like him" (the antecedent to "him" being "an entitled egomaniac") ... and a bunch of people left mean messages in return? I don't see how we're supposed to read some larger indictment into America - or even conservatives - from an inevitable flame war any rational human to enter existence since the emergence of 300 baud should have anticipated would result from posting a comment like that online.

    Acting like she's been mistreated seems like the same faux victimhood claimed by Republicans when their over-the-top rhetoric illicits a backlash. Someone who walks in to a public forum and starts calling people names isn't a victim - they are an instigator.

    Don't get me wrong - it's the public square and suppose I'd tend to agree with her more than not (although that's far from agreeing with her entirely). But good lord, karma's a bitch. If you go to dinner at a friend's house and start talking shit about the entire family - sometimes things get heated if the cousin you want to refer to in an amazingly hostile and insulting fashion happens to be sitting right there. She was a singularly crappy house guest if the desire was a friendly dinner.


    Really! Do you suppose that she ever broke the rule and talked politics in a bar? Apparently not, or she would have known what to expect.


    I am not suggesting any restriction on free speech and quite agree that Adams would not either.  It is not the criticism or disagreement that repels me; it is the things that are said about the supposed "issue" or the President himself.  Regina suggested that Trump is racist and that others parroting this birther stuff do so because of the race of the President's father.  There may be other motives for demanding that this President "prove himself" but I think she is on reasonably firm fround here.

    Others can disagree.  But to disagree the way so many did to her post does not reflect well on my fellow countrymen and women.  Yes, Voltaire and I will defend their right to say what they said, but I don't have to like it, too.

    My question is:  what is it that makes me connected to these people?  Why are we one nation, under God or not, and indivisible?  I am not feeling that much anymore and haven't at least since they impeached President Clinton and maybe as long ago as when some of them cheered when the President was murdered.

    I can hear Phil Ochs asking Mississppi to find another country to be part of.  Y'know?


    My question is:  what is it that makes me connected to these people?  Why are we one nation, under God or not, and indivisible?  I am not feeling that much anymore and haven't at least since they impeached President Clinton and maybe as long ago as when some of them cheered when the President was murdered.

    I can hear Phil Ochs asking Mississppi to find another country to be part of.  Y'know?

     Well here I relate to your feelings, as I think I understand them, completely. That is except for the way you seem to buy into regional stereotypes a bit too strongly. But the regional stereotyping is at least somewhat of a different subject. In my comment I meant to just poke fun at the idea of a person being surprised that there are people with radically different points of view who are just as convinced that they are right as is anyone else who actually has a well functioning head on their shoulders and tries to use  it as a thinking instrument.
      I was ranting a bit one time when a friend quoted a line he said was from Steinfeld. "People, Yeah, they are the worst".


    I get your pain, Barth, and know how much you care for Spektor.  And the rude comments she got back she should be able to take in stride, IMO, if she knew how many people read her diary and said what she said.

    This conversation has haunted me a bit tonight, and what I have to say may seem puny as all giddy-up.  But I have to say I don't know how much it helps to hate the haters.  I grow so weary of all the conversations about who is evil and hateful and who's been wronged and victimized and never can heal from it for this or that reason. 

    It got me to thinking of a diary I read this morning at fdl; a man wrote about a play based on conversations with Iraqis of the Diaspora.  Just some of the millions of displaced people caught up in more wars of hatred and strife, with leaders who serve them ill, but coommand obeisance or death.  It never ends.

    And here are some words, that to me, mean that we need to be careful about being consumed with hatred for the haters, the abusers.  I dunno Barth; I'll just park them here, and if they are useless, i'll understand.

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies. . . . If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?”

    And how do you love the people who are not yet your own people? Maybe by asking the right questions.

    “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

    That is not quite the right question. And the answer is not “The one who had mercy on him.”

    The right question is, while observing acts of mercy among the victimized, what should one do upon discovering oneself to have been one of the robbers?"

    I dunno; maybe it makes more sense in context.  G' night, Barth.


    Your feelings are hurt too easily, Barth.


    It is true.  I despair of viciousness.  I believe in rational thought and not name calling  And I agree as well that hating the haters is not an answer. 

    More lyrics:  "I wish they'd cure the friendly neighbors
    Of the disease which makes them haters"

    But it is there. I try not to deal with sterotypes and, well, some of my best friends are from the south.  So much courage has been shown by southerners at very important moments in our history, it would be foolish as well as wrong to lump them all together. 

    But, this relatively small region of what we have decided to constitute our nation has debilitated our politics for the entirety of our history.  I see no solution to this problem in the near term.  Does anybody?

     

     


    I read your post last night and thought that the point of your thread was just that;  that we, as a country, seem to have lost our generosity of spirit.  Americans are no longer willing to merge as a culture; to give everyone their due and put up with the people we disagree with, for the sake of our joint efforts and living together. We all want to wipe out the other side or destroy them to such an extent, that we can bulldoze into oblivion.  'Live and let live' and 'I defend your right to say it' has given way to 'Get the F**k off my property!'  Our political discourse is more informed by professional wrestling than by any noble ideals or thoughtful rumination.
    We say we defend people's rights to free speech, then denigrate what they have to say.  We don't debate ideas anymore, we accuse people who don't agree with us of being traitors to our purity of thought.  Sure Republicans do it, but so do we. We, of course, make the excuse that when you're on the playground and you're being hit with a rock you don't continue to flail with your fists, you look for your own rocks.   But then, how does it stop?  It doesn't, unless you take the rocks from everyone, and then where would be?  We'd be rockless and that would be wreckless.  So we continue to hope for Political Wrestlemania MMXII to end our rivalries once and for all in a Royal Rumble, Last Man Standing, No Holds Barred, Steel Cage Match.  Maybe we can get the Trumpster to be a guest referee.  hahahaha.

     


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