The Bishop and the Butterfly: Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age

    Torture Is Us

    Let's review the bidding.

    o Around 8 years ago torture produced some facts  which did not lead to Osama.

    o Last year without torture we learned some things which did.

    o We don't know the decisiveness of  those   8 year old facts.Maybe they were crucial in causing us to focus  on something we might have overlooked.  Or merely interesting :"oh, there's that guy again".

    o We won't be told by the Govt. We'll learn from a leak. 

    If they turn out to have been consequential we should admit that  Facts are facts.We can allow that to influence our actions. Or not. I believe we shouldn't.

    Either way John Yoo will advocate torture. .

     

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    Comments

    Someone needs to tell our enemies.

    “Happy are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy”

    "Revenge is mine saith the Lord"

    Is revenge; Justice?

    An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind. Mohandas Gandhi


    Yes.  Our enemies and us.