Unconventional Convention - Open Thread

    red white and blue balloonsWhat do you want to see and hear at the DNC convention? What do you believe needs to be done this week that will ‘move’ voters to be proactive in their support for the Obama/Biden ballot (and hopefully welcome a few more into the fold)?

    I want, and think there needs to be, a positive presentation without the lies, vitriol and harping that was served up as the main entrée at the GOP’s ‘roast’.

    Since none of the principal’s called any of us for advice (because I’m sure if they did you would have blogged about it), here’s our opportunity to give them the benefit of our vast, and no doubt valuable, finely honed wisdom. 

    Personally, I would like to see:

     

    1.  A screen showing the GOP lies one by one, with a factual rebuttal for each.  Perhaps a brief tutorial on truth v. lies. 
    2. Each speaker takes a topic (education, economy, voting rights/laws, etc.) and makes a brief statement about the vision and plans for the future.
    3. No personal attacks, more of how we are different/better, more positive than ‘them’.
    4. President Obama to inspire with specifics about how our future will be better if this administration is retained.
    5. A strong presentation about how we need to value the benefits of all people’s contributions without the fear that acceptance, regardless of race, creed, religion, et al. will weaken us, when the truth is it will only make us stronger.
    6. Women coming together to give voice and clarification to the importance of women protecting their individual and common rights and wellbeing.
    7.  A strong showing of support for our military, outlining future plans that will provide better care for them and their family’s wellbeing both during and after their service.  (A rousing, musical medley with members from all military – Navy, Army, Air Force, Marines and all others…..)

     

    Well, I could go on and on, but now it’s your turn. 

    Comments

    All of the above, Aunt Sam, but most of all I want them to stick scrupulously to the truth.  No fudging, no pandering--the truth.

    I want them to acknowledge and celebrate their historic base--the working class--and the unions that represent them.

    I want them to read and understand their platform and then interpret it for us.

    I want either George Clooney or Morgan Freeman or Martin Sheen--or all three--to be our Hollywood celebrities.  (Can't think of a female right now.) 

    And if someone asks them for a prop of any kind, I want them to shout an emphatic "no!"

    (I've heard there will be 12 women speakers.  Good.)


    I really want something that mirrors the 'we are the world' image, lots of diversity, spirit, passion and unity that reaches out and impacts our (and others) hearts, 'souls' and brains! 


    One of the advantages of being who Democrats are is that it doesn't require optical trickery to convey the message of a diverse gathering at the convention.  All the cameras have to do is show who is actually there.  The message conveys itself and does not necessarily even benefit from being verbally noted.

     


    I still think that for some the visual impact of a 'diverse grouping' en masse with a theme would be more powerful.  And IMO, not a product of 'trickery'.


    Ramona, they're reporting that the DNC is attempting to get Betty White to 'speak'.  While it would be funny to have her do the empty chair bit too, it would be too cheesy and now, unoriginal.


    Oh, please, NO!  I like Betty White, but NO!  That is not the image I would want voters to take away from our convention.  If we have to have comedy relief, choose someone like Jim Hightower or even Dave Barry.  (RIP Molly Ivins)

    Betty has a reputation for the raunchy and outrageous, just for laughs.  I can't imagine that she would hold back with an audience of that size.  I can see disaster ahead. . .



    lol.  Exactly.  (Love that dame!  But not anywhere near the Dems.)


    Oh yeah!  Maybe  they'll have a slide show of her 'ads' and she can say afterwards, with a shrug, 'Well, makes the point, after all, what else could I do, talk to an empty chair?  That's been done already hasn't it?'


    I have a hard time imagining what could transpire at the convention this week that would significantly help Obama/Biden in any sort of way that might last up through the election.  I suspect others are as well, which is why the expectations are being set below low.

    In theory there is an opportunity to help set the record straight with some who haven't made up their minds about Obama long ago, and in a close election their votes could be decisive.  I am not sure how many among those who actually watch party conventions look to them for that purpose, or are open to a convention "educating" them in this way.  Most of the political pundits hate boring facts and substance, and will say so, just as they did when Bill Clinton delivered substantive, lengthy State-of-the-Union addresses, which were highly popular and effective for him with the parts of the public that bothered to tune in.

    I distinguish between the real questions I have versus what is likely to be seen as most helpful to the ticket's chances for winning.  My real questions are all about, still, what does this guy really believe and what would he set about trying to get done, not just in a 2nd term if he gets one, but for the remainder of his presidency if he should lose?  

    I honestly have no clue on that.  None whatever.  I can all too easily imagine him negotiating some "grand bargain" on deficit reduction during the lameduck Congress following the election if he does lose, as his attempt at one more "legacy" achievement, and I'm heavily inclined to believe that if he does that it will be a policy disaster.  

    I could, on the positive end, imagine him pushing much harder on further job creating-stimulus than he has since 2009, and on real and smart (economy-helping with no bad precedent setting) foreclosure relief, IF he gets enough pressure to do that, which is a huge IF.  Nothing he is saying so far suggests to me that in his heart or in his plans and to succeed with any of that he would need to try to nationalize the election by making change in the Congressional lineup something of much more explicit and high profile importance to him.  So far I have seen little if any evidence of that, either.

    There is no vision right now for either a 2nd term or a better American future pursued in a 2nd term coming from him.  He might be saving that for his convention speech.  He might be saving that for the debates.  He might be saving that for some later, more extended TV ads.  The Catfood party's vision is immeasurably worse than any kind of "muddling through", small-bore Clintonesque 2nd term and deserves to be rejected resoundingly at the polls.  

    In America we tend to want to do better than muddle through when we know we are hurting and in trouble.  As we do.

    Obama's strategy so far appears to be that enough voters will decide not to fire him for a still bad economy because they define the question not as "do I feel Obama has really delivered?" but "For all Obama's faults and disappointments aren't the Republicans just too scary to trust?"  Those who correctly and accurately identify the many ways in which pure obstruction by the GOP has prevented more good things from happening may, like me, find it curious that Obama has not made more of a point of this while tying it to the critical need to elect a forward-thinking Congress.  He risks coming off as making too many excuses if he does that--which is why, if he does up the ante on GOP obstructionism as a major hindrance during his first, he needs to make the forward-looking point about what he can and will do in a 2nd term if the voters give him a constructive Congress as well as a 2nd term.

    So looping this back to this week's convention and what I hope will come out of it, I guess 3 main things: correct some of the worst misinformation, hopefully in a more fun, playful way that educates as a side effect; offer some kind of a narrative as an alternative to the "Obama fail" one the GOP is offering that enables voters to make some sense out of the last 4 years; and say enough about what he would like to do in a 2nd term to give people tuning in reasons to think he has grown in office and offers some hope for improving things if he is re-elected and gets a better Congress to work with than he's had the last 2 years.  

    The last of these, if he attempts it at the convention, may need to be done in a tone radically different from the high rhetoric of his first campaign.  If he aims for high rhetoric he risks reminding many viewers who feel disappointed in him that they feel like they've seen that movie before and haven't liked it as much as they thought they were going to.  A chunk of the public thought it was in love with him the first time around.  But the relationship has moved on.  It's no longer in what my wife likes to call the "you like broccoli, too!!" phase of the courtship and is much more now about how the relationship might be made to work.  

    Practically speaking that has to include Congress in some higher profile way than it has so far.  It would be difficult and perhaps ill-advised for him to ask people who are in some cases a leadpipe cinch to elect a Republican House or Senate member to elect a Democrat instead.  He has to try to make it about electing people who are offering worthy ideas that realistically stand to help ordinary Americans and not just those who are already wealthy--our country belonging to all of us, most of us believe--instead of the same old failed policies that have gotten us in trouble, and who are also committed to working in good faith to address the country's problems.  Not about partisan politics per se.  And holding them accountable for doing so after the votes have been counted, since we know that democracy is not a spectator sport. 

    I'm not suggesting that what I am looking for is necessarily what is most likely to help Obama/Biden's chances, nor that the convention is the only or necessarily the best venue to try to provide more or better grounded reasons for thinking we as a country might be able to do better than gridlock or just muddling through the next 4 years.  Obama is not going to be able to rekindle anything like the sense of optimism and hope that existed 4 years ago.  I'm not even sure that would be a good thing, even if it were possible.  There was a lot of illusion and unreality tied up with the 2008 campaign. 


    That's a lotta words and I'm not sure, even after reading them all, where you're going with this.  I get that you don't think Obama has a chance in hell of winning, and your reasons may even be valid, but it seems to me you're placing a lot of expectations on a convention that is really nothing more than a big ol' party. 

    It used to be that a convention was actually a battleground for delegates, but those days are gone.  Now it's a showcase for party hopefuls and party regulars, with more cameras in place than ever before. 

    That's why the Dems have to be so careful about how they comport themselves.  The world is watching, not because it's so crucial to anything in any of our lives , but because it's a chance to strut our stuff.  If we bomb, it'll be all over the place and may even hurt us in November. 

    If we don't suck, it'll be a good convention that will be forgotten come November.

    So the key is, we really have to try not to bomb.


    Perhaps it was too many words.  In no way was I suggesting that I think Obama has no chance of winning.  I was ruminating in response to Aunt Sam's invitation to think out loud about what might happen at the convention that might be helpful to the Obama/Biden ticket.  Not an easy question at all--for me, at least.  


    Pay me no nevermind, AD.  I read it too quickly and answered too quickly.  You make some very good observations.  Thanks.


    No worries.  :<)


    AD - Terrific, so much of value in your comment. IMO, actually think there's three themes that would make excellent stand alone blogs. Please consider. (1. There was a lot of illusion and unreality tied up with the 2008 campaign. 2. .....about electing people who are offering worthy ideas that realistically stand to help ordinary Americans and not just those who are already wealthy--our country belonging to all of us. 3.) I could, on the positive end, imagine him pushing much harder on further job creating-stimulus than he has since 2009, and on real and smart (economy-helping with no bad precedent setting) foreclosure relief. These are not in any 'order', and there's even more in your missive than I've outlined that would make very interesting and needed post.

    As for the following:

    3 main things: correct some of the worst misinformation, hopefully in a more fun, playful way that educates as a side effect; offer some kind of a narrative as an alternative to the "Obama fail" one the GOP is offering that enables voters to make some sense out of the last 4 years; and say enough about what he would like to do in a 2nd term to give people tuning in reasons to think he has grown in office and offers some hope for improving things if he is re-elected and gets a better Congress to work with than he's had the last 2 years.

    Agree and hope this is accomplished.  Thanks.


    Maybe a 4th thing to try for (or maybe part of the 1st one) is to bring to life, maybe with short video clips or in some creative way, the good that has been done in this first term as a result of his initiatives.  Possible examples:

    *real people whose jobs were saved--these would include public employees who are generally popular with the public such as teachers and other school employees, police and firefighters and first responders

    *real individuals in different situations who stand to benefit from the HC reforms that were made--and show the immense sense of gratitude they feel that the President and congressional supporters cared enough to move us forward in those ways

    *partners and dependents of returning Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans who at long last have their families back together

    *entrepreneurs who benefited from stimulus money for alternative energy development who are doing promising things

    *people in local communities who benefited in tangible ways from stimulus package investments (maybe throw in a clip of Republican House and Senate members who voted against the stimulus at public appearances bragging about what they did for their district or state with a stimulus-funded project that has some visual that can show what it is).

    There has been tangible accomplishment.  It needs to be celebrated, acknowledging the great deal more work that needs to be done.  So far the Administration has struggled to find widely effective ways of communicating this to combat the pure negativity of the opposition.        


    Geez, Obama definitely needs to put you on his campaign staff, excellent - if only they do this, it would really be a positive and productive convention!


    Great comment. I will only attempt to address one of the points you made.

    People are hungry to hear, as you put it, an "offering that enables voters to make some sense out of the last 4 years." What makes that a tough item to come up with is that the people who most want to receive that offering don't want to have that explanation couched in terms of the mess that was handed the Obama Administration when they started or hear too much about the strenuous efforts made by the GOP to do nothing in cooperation with them. 

    In 2008, Obama got a lot of votes with the promise of change but he also got a lot of votes because he clearly signaled to those who wanted to hear a sign of it that he was a centrist pragmatist who wasn't afraid of politics as usual and was willing to talk about policy without demonizing his opposition.

    I don't have any idea whether it would win the election for him but I am sure that many independents would vote for him again if he found a way to persist in his "folly".

    As someone far to the left of the present administration, I guess I would prefer to hear the rhetoric of a pragmatist that has already blown off my policies than hear about what could have been if it was only humanly possible.


    Cross-posted in news section are James Carville and Stan Greenberg's list of 6 things to get done at this convention: http://www.dagblog.com/link/james-carville-and-stan-greenberg-big-things-obama-can-get-done-his-convention-14659


    I agree with their six pack, but above all truly believe need to promote positive spirit without falling into the GOP hole of negativity and bully brigade tactics.  But, the most important is 'Thou shall not tell a lie' either by word, inference or omission. 

    I'm really looking forward to FLOTUS speech and hopefully Warren's will create a rousing arena wide chorus of cheers and support.

    Thanks for posting news item.


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