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    Who's to blame for HRC failure and Massachusetts loss? Sadly, it's Obama

    Lots of blogs asking whom to blame for the loss of Ted Kennedy's seat and the looming failure of health care reform.

    This was an unforced error -- an own goal -- and the blame, sadly, lies with Obama. The crucial error behind both recent failures occurred just two days after Obama was elected. Naming Rahm Emanuel his chief of staff meant Howard Dean was not only out as chairman of the Democratic National Committee, but blackballed as possible health secretary or even surgeon general (Rahm and Dean, it appears, despise each other).

    At a stroke, Obama lost the Democrat who arguably knew the most and cared the most about health care reform (maybe after Kennedy). Rahm froze him out even as HRC died on the vine. Obama also lost the driving force behind the 50-state strategy, which aimed to slowly build party grass roots everywhere, not just dump money into states considered winnable. Dean's approach had paved the way for Obama's surprise victory in 2009, but congressional incumbents resented the loss to their warchests.

    Dean was an activist DNC chair, often in the news and butting heads with Democratic legislators. By contrast, I had to google who his successor was: Tim Kaine, the lame-duck governor of Virginia who only actively took up his DNC duties last week. For the past year, the DNC's day-to-day operations were in the hands of executive director Jennifer O'Malley Dillon, who had run John Edwards' presidential campaign. Dillon may be extremely competent, but there is no way she carried the clout of a Howard Dean or even a Tim Kaine. The DNC had been effectively neutered, and the sudden, shocking loss of Massachusetts was the price.

    To his credit, Obama seems to have recognized the colossal fuckup he allowed with the DNC leadership. He's called back David Plouffe, who ran his presidential campaign, and lent Plouffe his own deputy chief of staff, Jim Messina, to try to clean up the mess before the November elections. Not much of a vote of confidence in Kaine, but he only got the job as consolation prize after Biden edged him for the VP nomination. Notice also that Rahm isn't given any role in the salvage operation:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/24/us/politics/24union.html

    I never did understand the freezing-out of Howard Dean by this White House. Was it a deliberate snub to "progressives?" Odd, because as governor of Vermont, Dean was fiscally quite conservative. Was it simply the price Rahm demanded to join the Obama cabinet? Whatever the answer, it is now exposed as a costly mistake. And it's all on Obama. Personally, if I were president, I'd fire Rahm and bring Dean in from the cold. Volcker too. But what do I know?

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    The candidate gets 50% of the blame.

    But after that, you got it nailed.


    For "Obama's surprise victory in 2009," read 2008.
    Where did the time go?


    What a myopic post.

    Truly.

    Lest you forget, Coakley was chosen in a State-wide Primary. By voters.

    An open primary.

    By voters.

    Sorry, Obama has nothing to do with that.

    But if you are looking for blame, let's pin this one on Ted Kennedy.

    Two reasons:

    a) He was instrumental in a rule change whereby the Governor would appoint Senate seats open. Why? Because "everyone" in 2004 thought Kerry would win and then-Governor Mitt Romney would appoint a Republican. Had this stupid bit of stuff not been rammed through the State, Patrick could have chosen whomever he wanted. (PS: Anyone calling for an end to the filibuster, should well remember this lesson about screwing around with rules when you are in the majority, because someday you will be the minority.)

    b) Like so many, Ted put himself above his goals. He should have retired immediately after seeing Obama inaugurated. Had he done that, he would have been able to *campaign* for the Dem running for office before he died.

    At very least he would have been a presence in the election. Having old Ted endorsing the Dem candidate on the trail, and *then* calling it the "cause of [his] life" may well have prevented a GOP candidate from gaining momentum (especially since everyone knew Kennedy's time was nigh and that would provide even larger rallies).

    Instead, Kennedy was absent for essentially all the discussion for "the cause of [his] life." He contributed little to nothing. That meant additional deal making capabilities were lost by a more vital successor.

    Hubris, my friends, hubris. Kennedy put himself above the goal... and the goal suffered.

    And to top it off, the Senate let the whole process roll on longer and longer when you needed to push for a blitzkrieg - because the longer the process went on, the more HRC was going to be whittled away.

    So did Brown win *because* of Kennedy? No. But Kennedy's actions had a far greater effect on Brown winning in MA than anyone outside the state.

    Either way, how is Brown's winning Obama's fault? For picking Rahm?

    Did it ever occur to you that Rahm's ability to deal with the Hill has gotten other benefits elsewhere?

    People tend to get so very one-dimensional in their thinking forgetting that every policy decision in DC is a set of interlocking issues from at least 536 agendas.

    Now, if you want to complain about the WH making deals with the drug companies, fine. At least Obama had something to do with that.

    But that's not why we are where we are today.


    If you are going to use sport's analogies, get them right. An own goal is seldom if ever an unforced error.


    Unless you are from MA and actually watched this election come down me thinks you haven't a clue.

    I live across the boarder in NH and got to watch up close Coakley v. Brown.

    This isn't all that tough to figure out.

    You run a poor candidate ( there were better, but the Progressive Dems did not come out during the primary). Who thinks she has already won it (sound familiar). Then you let her take a vacation at the beginning of the campaign. And when she comes back only does 16 campaign events across the state. And finally goes all negative all the time in her ads in fact even when she was not negative her ads sucked big time.

    Now put her up against a very appealing candidate who does 66 campaign events across the state. Like him or not he worked his ass off. He runs a very populist campaign all dressed up in plaid flannel and Carhartt while driving his pick-up truck. Who basically mines a anti-incumbent nerve (read DEM). And when Coakley went all negative he responds all positive.

    Result Coakley loses. And frankly, any candidate who pisses away a 20 point lead deserves to lose.

    As to Obama. all the reports I have read Obama's ad and appearance in MA saved Coakley from loosing by ten plus points.


    De moritibus nil nisis bonum


    nisi


    When will be able to do the opposite of "Recommend" on a post? This is one of the most fact-free "what if" scenarios I've read recently. And yet amazingly, it comes down on the always-popular "it's all Obama's fault" side.

    Did Obama make Coakley spend three weeks out of a five-week campaign on vacation? Did Obama advise Coakley to heap scorn on and advisor telling her to go out in public and shake some hands? Did Obama advise Coakley to insult a key member of the state's beloved Boston Red Sox?

    This post is sheer idiocy. Definitely Not Recommended.


    Revision: At one point Coakley had a 30 point lead.


    "To his credit, Obama seems to have recognized the colossal fuckup he allowed with the DNC leadership. He's called back David Plouffe, who ran his presidential campaign, and lent Plouffe his own deputy chief of staff, Jim Messina, to try to clean up the mess before the November elections."

    Why is this to his credit? This move is meaningless and will do absolutely nothing to change the disasterous course Obama has set for himself and the Democratic Party. He is a strategic and tactical moron.


    pissed away, like the opportunities for real change.


    According to you, Obama is "a strategic and tactical moron"... who just happened to beat the Clintons in the primary and lead the Dems to a victory over the GOP in the general election.

    Tell me, Oleeb, what exactly have you accomplished politically? Because if it is so easy for a "moron" like Obama to come out ahead in this system, it would be a snap for you to wield your agenda anywhere at anytime.


    Yes, Coakley ran a terrible campaign and Brown ran a terrific one. But even terrible candidates can be saved if some adult notices in time and acts. No-one did, even though this 60th vote was crucial to passing the health care bill.
    Tossing Coakely a million dollars and an Obama ad a week before the election was just the party brass trying to cover their asses.
    Thankfully, Obama realizes lack of leadership at the DNC level was a key factor in the loss; he's dragging Plouffe back into the fray to stave off an even worse outcome across the board in November.
    Even if we set aside the question of who's to blame, can anyone seriously argue that the Democrats as an organization have not been rudderless for the past year? The DNC is the most obvious example, but where was the party's senatorial campaign committee as Coakley tanked?
    I think the whole Rahm-Dean scenario is important in understanding what's gone wrong with the Democrats. Rahm may have sharp elbows, but he's a congressional insider who works the existing system. Dean rubs legislators the wrong way because he thinks individual congressmen should serve the interests of the party as a whole (grass roots on up).
    Obama's instinct is to try for the best results he can get without confronting a system that he knows is flawed. I'd argue that last week was the direct result of that choice -- a choice he made at the very start of his presidency.
    Finally, I'm no knee-jerk Obama-basher. I think he's the best guy Americans could have picked for the job, at the most crucial time. He has three years to save his presidency, and he's smart enough to do it. Unfortunately, as he now probably realizes, he also has to save the Democratic Party singlehandedly.
    Thanks for all the comments; I'll try to be less myopic in future.




    But but but . . .

    Speak bad of the dead?

    It's a win/win situation for such a clear thinker. It's more advantageous to attack the words and actions of the dead for they can't rise to defend their actions or their words.

    It's kinda like pissing and moaning that Stephen Hawking is no fun to debate and couldn't possibly know a damn thing because he talks too slow and weird through his computer device.

    ~OGD~


    It can happen. A goal keeper error for example.


    We should all suffer from such myopia.


    Many here at TPM do... which is why they can't enact their agenda.


    C'mon swabby... you can do better. Reagan is dead and that doesn't stop people here from evaluating his policies/politics/methods.

    Your comment indicates that you are exactly the type of person that would have wanted to coronate Washington.

    PS: I've had discussions with Stephen Hawking and have dined with him.


    This is why you have a chair of the DNC -- to provide early warnings of situations like this and to start fixing them if possible.

    Primary voters do not always vote for the person most electable in the general.

    So if Obama in the last weekend saved her some 4 points how much could he have changed the vote if he had campaigned earlier?

    I've worked on a House Rep campaign which was a long shot and the Dems sent people to see that the campaign got run better: this was much more important.

    As to the better candidates -- they couldn't even defeat Coakley and they seem to have sat on their hands after the primary.


    Do you know anything about the MA situation?

    Coakley *wanted* to win the primary.

    She didn't want the job as Senator. (See my post waaaay below.)

    The national party chairman can't come in an run roughshod over the state unless they asked for help.

    And you wouldn't want it any other way.


    I suggest everyone read this article from the Boston Globe written before the election.

    The pattern was quite clear to everyone.

    This is how the process works - she won the primary, the people spoke.

    She lost the election, the people spoke again.

    Stop trying to claim that the Federal level has a mission to "fix" things at the State (pun intended). That's not how our government works.


    Did it ever occur to you that Rahm's ability to deal with the Hill has gotten other benefits elsewhere?

    That had not occurred to us, dude.


    I take it you are unaware of the existence of the DSCC, and it's purpose? The NRSC sure did swing into action.


    I don't get your thinking here. Admittedly, it seems that Kaine is worthless and should probably be replaced by someone who'll do their job rather than wait for direction from the WH. But at the same time, moving someone who by all accounts did a pretty decent job during the 2008 campaign into a similar role for the 2010 elections doesn't seem to be a bad move IMO.


    LOL!


    It's all a question of protocol. The DSCC can't come in and dictate to the state organizations how things will be done. They need to be brought in.

    If you read the Boston Globe article I referred to, you'll see that Coakley's organization wasn't concerned... despite the glaring issues to the outsiders.


    Dude has clearly never seen my beloved Tottenham Hotspurs in full flight.

    Head. Hurts.


    His problem is leading not campaigning.


    The two things are different sides to the same coin.

    By invigorating the electorate, Congress will tend to follow.

    See Ronald Reagan, etc.


    Do you mean legally or in the more general public context?


    Don't you think it would be more honest to admit that you're thrilled at this bad karma Kennedy brought on himself?

    It's okay if you're thrilled. Just don't straddle the fence to make it seem you might possibly think it's a shame.

    By the way, Coakley was a Clinton favorite.



    Kaine is useless and the sacrifice of Dean to Emanuel is a pitiful shame.


    It seems right to me in any context. That doesn't mean shedding tears over poor dead Adolph(of Josef). But otherwise it's time to move on.


    If a campaign is not facing reality an outside tracking poll could serve as a wake up call.


    Agreed. Bringing in Plouffe is not going to rectify his exposed lack of leadership.

    Though Plouffe is a good campaigner as he proved so in 2008, the landscape is different this time around. I have no doubt that the election in November will be more about Obama than about the candidates, and this time around, the true Obama is clearly exposed. Would even Plouffe be able to overcome this. I don't think so.


    Like telling the nation that HCR will be done this year and expect Congress to figure the rest out?


    I agree that Coakley is a terrible campaigner, but don't forget that she ran in the bluest of the blue States for a chair that Ted Kennedy has held for decades. Just my opinion but factoring out everything else, even an inarticulate defective reject with a D attached to his name would have been able to win the election in Mass., an opinion obviously shared with the DSCC. They just made a grave error in assuming that voters would tune out Obama's own track record.

    But feel free to entertain your fantasy, and here's hoping that Obama will agree with you for November and 2012. Cheers.


    Those existed and showed that about 22% of Dems would vote for Brown.

    Of course, people can argue like that argue here: when you don't like the results of a poll, you degrade the polling organization.

    Rassmusen has had some terrible results in the Presidential election (with scrutiny on methodologies), but they were on track here.

    Again, the state has to wake up to the fact that there's an issue and call for the national organization. The national party can't come in with strong armed tactics or it won't have the state's support and ground coverage in the national election.


    I would be interested in finding out exactly what your political background and experience is.

    You make little sense. People don't vote for their Senator based on their President.


    Anything can happen, a carom, off a loose beach ball on the pitch, into goal cost Liverpool points this season. The authors words are a false equivalence.


    In general


    There was a European movie a couple of years ago which follows a guy whose own goal costs his team an important match.

    I don't recommend it. I do recommend the early 1960s movie about Rugby: This Sporting Life.


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