BREAKING: A judge cleared the way for abortions to resume in Kentucky, temporarily blocking the state’s near-total ban on the procedure that was triggered by the Supreme Court ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade. https://t.co/fKEifuUDtU
good splainer thread for what's going on in Florida
BREAKING: Judge rules that HB5, FL's 15 week abortion ban, is unconstitutional and violates the privacy provision of the State Constitution & he supports a temporary statewide injunction. His order will not happen until he signs it.
An important win for abortion rights in FL.
— Rep. Anna V. Eskamani (@AnnaForFlorida) June 30, 2022
.@GovRonDeSantis and his administration will appeal this decision because he is an extreme anti-abortion politician who thinks we should criminalize and ban abortion, and so we must KEEP FIGHTING and hold the line here in the State of Florida for women & pregnant ppl everywhere.
— Rep. Anna V. Eskamani (@AnnaForFlorida) June 30, 2022
It's unclear how long this order will last, we will not know the specifics until we see the final order.
Anti-abortion extremists have tried to eliminate this right to privacy for decades. Twice just in the last ten years. They failed because Floridians care about privacy.
— Rep. Anna V. Eskamani (@AnnaForFlorida) June 30, 2022
I will also add how confusing and stressful all of this is for patients and health center staff.
They have been working long hours to serve as many patients as possible, and don't really know when or if they can continue, or for how long.
It's sick that politicians do this.
— Rep. Anna V. Eskamani (@AnnaForFlorida) June 30, 2022
And it's YOUR TAXPAYER FUNDS paying for this shit. These are Florida attorneys funded by the STATE trying to ban abortion.
Just to put this out there, NEW MEXICO is a SAFE and non-extradition state... meaning, you can have an abortion in NM and your red communist state can NOT come for you or the physician who assisted you in making an almost impossible decision
— Anarys Oberon #WeAreStarfleet (@AnarysO) July 1, 2022
The vote is on August 2nd. In order for abortion to be outlawed, the KS legislature would have to pass a bill, and the governor sign it. (Unless there's enough votes in the #ksleg to override a veto.) A year from tomorrow would be the earliest possible.
Kansas has a Democratic Governor and abortion is still legal here at the moment.
— SheisAngryandMotivated (@bthechngu1t2c) July 1, 2022
VOTE NO on August 2nd #Kansas. The proposed amendment to the KS constitution should be voted down! It would remove the right to abortion that now exists. It would give state legislators the right to pass laws regarding abortion. Register to vote by 7-12-22. Need not pick a party.
This is a lie. The state of Kansas already has abortion restrictions in place and those do not go away if the amendment does not pass. #VoteNo on August 2nd. pic.twitter.com/38fyPgcnxW
— Andrea Hetlinger (@AndreaHetlinger) July 1, 2022
Women in WI don’t have the option to get abortions in blue counties bc we no longer have anyone providing them in the state. Organizations are helping reschedule cancelled appointments/arrange travel to MN/ILhttps://t.co/saOVQnqcA3
I wrote about democratic backsliding in WI, which has been characterized by Republican unwillingness to accept the outcome of free and fair elections. Sometimes they allege the election was fraudulent, sometimes they just ignore the results. https://t.co/vxrchoDH9Bpic.twitter.com/mUnqPUyW2w
BIG NEWS: NY State Senate just passed legislation enshrining abortion rights in the State constitution.
Also prohibits gov't from discriminating based on race, ethnicity, religion, disability, sexual orientation, gender identity & expression, or pregnancy.https://t.co/bZBEQyGmb7
Hours after the Supreme Court action, the Buckeye state had outlawed any abortion after six weeks. Now this doctor had a 10-year-old patient in the office who was six weeks and three days pregnant.
But for now, the procedure still is legal in Indiana. And so the girl soon was on her way to Indiana to Bernard's care.
Indiana abortion laws unchanged, but effect still felt across state
While Indiana law did not change last week when the Supreme Court issued its groundbreaking Dobbs decision, abortion providers here have felt an effect, experiencing a dramatic increase in the number of patients coming to their clinics from neighboring states with more restrictive policies.
Since Friday, the abortion clinics where Dr. Katie McHugh, an independent obstetrician-gynecologists works have seen “an insane amount of requests” from pregnant people in Kentucky and Ohio, where it is far more difficult to get an abortion.
A ban on abortions after six weeks took effect on last week in Ohio. Last Friday the two abortion providers in Kentucky shut their doors after that state’s trigger law banning abortions went into effect.
Indiana soon could have similar restrictions.
That pains doctors like Bernard.
“It’s hard to imagine that in just a few short weeks we will have no ability to provide that care,” Bernard said.
For now, Indiana abortion providers have been fielding more calls from neighboring states. Typically about five to eight patients a day might hail from out of state, said McHugh, who works at multiple clinics in central and southern Indiana. Now, the clinics are seeing about 20 such patients a day.
Kentucky patients have been coming to Indiana in higher numbers since earlier this spring when more restrictive laws took effect there, McHugh said. [....]
Some real strange immigrant-secrets-type things going on with the case of the rapist of the 10-yr.-old in Ohio. I think it would be safe to say we don't know the full story yet:
NEW: Ohio 10-year-old's alleged illegal immigrant rapist, 27, was listed as minor in abortionist’s report to state, @ThomasCatenacci reports: https://t.co/g86KlhSBka
WATCH: The mother of the Ohio 10/y rape victim tells Telemundo's @MariaVargasPion that the child "is fine", and "everything they say about (Gerson Flores) is a lie." pic.twitter.com/Vtpyn404g7
This portion of a broader interview sheds significant light on the familial dynamics of this case, and further vindicates all skepticism over how the story broke and was handled. We don't even get to this point without the critical work of @MeganFoxWriter and so many others.
This appears to confirm my thesis of a domestic situation wherein the confessed rapist is also the paramour of the victim's mother (other familial relation is possible but less likely). Unfortunately, I saw many such cases while working as a court interpreter.
The mother's distressed defense of the rapist suggests that
a: She is also here illegally and fears deportation
b: The defendant is the family's sole source of income
c: There is a likelihood of other children in the home
Other questions: what was the time gap between the initial reporting of the rape and the filing of criminal charges? Why did the referring abortion provider not report the rape to authorities? Was the child forced to live with her rapist in furtherance of an abortion narrative?
Washington state Gov. Jay Inslee issued a directive Thursday that bars state police from cooperating with out-of-state investigatory requests related to abortion in his efforts to make the state a "sanctuary" for those seeking the services https://t.co/8nEBYi0bi6
VERY clever lady doctor, experienced at figuring out workarounds of the laws of other "states" -
[...] "From where I prescribe as a medical doctor, which is from Austria, I'm acting according to the regulations and also to the medical ethical guidelines and laws," Gomperts said.
Working on a new option
Given the shifting regulatory landscape in the U.S., Gomperts said her organizations are also pursuing a new long-term strategy to get one of the pills used for a medication abortion approved as a contraceptive in the United States and the European Union [....]
[....] "The situation in the U.S. now is exactly the same as in Poland or in Malta, where we've been working for more than 18 years now," Dr. Rebecca Gomperts told CBS News. "Because access to abortion is now becoming so difficult... I think that everybody that can should get the medicines in their homes for themselves, or in the future, for somebody else that they know." [....]
Rebecca Gomperts says Aid Access has been receiving 4,000 inquiries per day since Roe v. Wade was overturned https://t.co/UOla0ytEeo
[....] As of 5 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday, nine states have already banned or restricted the procedure, and by the end of July, at least another six will have joined them. But the post-Roe landscape could change even more dramatically after the 2022 midterm elections — especially in states where control of state government is on the line and where the future of abortion policy is up in the air.
We’ve identified seven states where the results of the midterms could decide whether abortion is protected or banned. Here are the relevant races in those states as well as how abortion policy could change following each possible electoral outcome [....]
Despite trying to take multiple birth control pills as a makeshift Plan B (which wasn’t available then), I found out I was pregnant. I was able to get access to abortion care at @PPFA along with a counseling referral since I couldn’t talk to anyone in the military 2/
— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) May 4, 2022
If you're carrying a baby to term for someone to adopt & you run into complications? You're fucked.
One of H&R Block's 57 reasons why this Supreme Court approach sucks.
Anyway France had a pretty intense debate about abortion recently and moved their limits from 12 weeks with exceptions to 14 weeks with exceptions. This is because the courts don't make abortion limits in France the legislature does. That's what SCOTUS said America should do.
I actually think this is a gracious exchange on twitter. Someone admitting they don't fully understand something and want to learn more. How often do you see that? pic.twitter.com/iy1KGloHmP
Abortion in Poland is legal only in cases when the pregnancy is a result of a criminal act or when the woman's life or health is at risk.[1] The last change in the Act on Pregnancy Planning of the Republic of Poland took place on 27 January 2021, when publication of the judgment of the Polish Constitutional Tribunal in the Dziennik Ustaw RP took place.[2]...
what dumb hypocrites, really! They let each state decide! They have no right to an abortion in the E.U. as a whole.
A DFW woman was pulled over and ticketed for driving alone in the HOV lane. She's 34 weeks pregnant and tells the cop her unborn child counts as a passenger since Roe V. Wade was overturned. The state can't have it both ways, she argues. https://t.co/eFTvElIMhG
A Louisiana doctor prescribed Cytotec to make the insertion of an IUD less painful. Walgreens called the physician to ask if the prescription was for an abortion, she told them it was for an IUD & the pharmacist still refused to fill it. https://t.co/YGir1Skf3r
Dumb fucking activist and Huffpost think they "schooled " a Senator by playing games with maybe 7 fucking non-female pregnancies in the whole goddamn world vs 140 million female births each year and perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 that amount of FEMALE aborted pregnancies. So shut the fuck up, you self-absorbed overinflated bullshitters and let WOMEN get the fucking help they need without interlopers trying to seize the spotlight. Ok, a few transgenders can get pregnant - take a bow, sit down, and shut up now - it's not about you, or it's 99.99% not about you. Yeah, you got an asterisk in the Guess Book of World Records - should we build you your own national highway system to show you how special you are vs the 150million+ naturally born women in the US? Fucking Absurdistan.
Before coming out as transgender man, David Minerva was living as a woman in a lesbian relationship. Unlike my own very loud knowledge of the body dysphoria that pregnancy would have caused me, Minerva tried to ignore it when he became pregnant. He hoped being pregnant and delivering a child would help him sink into the idea of womanhood. It felt like a final effort to try out what he thought it meant to be a woman. But what he found was more discomfort. At first, it was hard for Minerva to understand why his pregnancy experience made him "bristle."
"I was deeply uncomfortable with how cis-normative the whole culture of pregnancy was. Phrases like 'pregnant women' and 'expectant mothers' made my skin crawl and made me feel wrong," says Minerva.
Being in a building for "women" during childbirth felt oppressive and made him think of his transgender male friends who were pregnant. It made David think of himself too. The gendered language, assumption of gender, and default terms used by nurses and doctors that referred to all birthers as women and moms made him feel excluded and unwelcome, like he didn't belong, even if the medical providers were warm and caring
Fuck me - "women" in quotes. If I was born with 2 cocks i might feel "excluded" that the world presumed every guy had 1, is that it? Why don't they make urinals with 2 dips so i don't feel "excluded". How CIS-normative a million years of development with only women getting pregnant is? Have these people seen the movie "Freaks"? Deal with it. 4 billion females have to shift their language all around because a few transgenders want to play the birthing game? Get fucking stuffed. And i really don't think of people who do odd things with their bodies as Freaks - we're here to break barriers and have fun or not, our choice. I've known super radical gender changing /body changing individuals, would like to think of them as friends. But demanding everyone adopt your specific terms as a distinct mini-minority is narcissism and craziness.
Breaking News: A judge in Louisiana temporarily blocked the state’s abortion bans for the second time, allowing the procedure to become legal again. https://t.co/uRyxlk6N8h
BREAKING: A Columbus man has been charged with raping and impregnating the 10-year-old girl who traveled to Indiana to get an abortion. https://t.co/FkXq3d1ZXf
These news outlets aren't even trying to report on reality. Instead they're reporting on a "reality" created by a deliberate right wing media shitstorm, which was largely the intent of the media shitstorm: to distract from the very real effects of GOP policy.
Did they actually report the actual news at all?
1) 10 year old becomes pregnant
2) Doctor saves her
3) Rape charges filed
4) IN now threatening to prosecute doctor
girl's mom doesn't want to talk, claims what is being said about rapist is all lies etc. I might add that one consider the idea that the doctor may have wanted to keep it quiet according to mom's wishes but in actuality in most state law situations doctors can't do that if it's suspected "child abuse" and in this case, it not doubt is.
Life is complicated, doesn't always fit the political narratives! Things like: guess what, illegal immigrants often don't like social workers, or anyone butting into their business, go figure...
edit to add: if true, why did the accused rapist initially get i.d.'d as a minor? was it just a mistake or someone's foolish intent to have the case treated as if he were one?
Yes, getting rid of a complex situation before it turns into a life is a big improvement for the world, even if there's some sadness that not every pregnancy is welcome, just like not every intimate intercourse isn't good sex or romantic. This grandiose scheme that it all has to work out cuz God made it that way is crazy tunes.
1/ What's fascinating about this is you have a situation where the guy confessed to the crime and is being charged and DNA samples are being taken, but conservatives -- generally pretty law and order-y -- have decided it's a hoax b/c the mom seemed to defend him in a TV interview https://t.co/PTTGMnq7ru
2/Why would she defend him? I dunno! This sounds like a pretty fucked up dynamic. A 10-year-old was raped. Almost all the available evidence suggests he did it. That people are harping on the one tiny, strange piece of evidence pointing in the other direction tells you something.
A West Virginia judge on Monday blocked officials from enforcing a 19th-century ban on abortions after the US supreme court overturned the 1973 Roe v Wade decision that recognized the right of women nationally to terminate pregnancies, Reuters reports.
The decision by Kanawha county circuit judge Tera Salango clears the way for the state’s lone abortion clinic to resume services, which it suspended out of fear of prosecution following the high court’s 24 June ruling.
More evidence that abortion bans are resulting in some harrowing scenarios in cases of miscarriage. It's hard to tell how common these cases are, but still deeply worrying. https://t.co/b4KfalXsvA
Comments
good splainer thread for what's going on in Florida
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/30/2022 - 3:36pm
She is correct
https://sourcenm.com/2022/06/28/gov-executive-order-nm-will-not-cooperate-with-other-states-legal-actions-against-people-seeking-abortions-here/
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/01/2022 - 2:38am
Kansas:
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/01/2022 - 2:52am
Wisconsin
read the whole thread if you want to understand the complicated current situation regarding an 1849 Wisconsin law
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/01/2022 - 3:01am
Also Wisconsin:
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 07/01/2022 - 5:31am
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/01/2022 - 6:10pm
As Ohio restricts abortions, 10-year-old girl travels to Indiana for procedure
Shari Rudavsky and Rachel Fradette, Indianapolis Star, July 1, 2022
also see
and
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/01/2022 - 11:58pm
Some real strange immigrant-secrets-type things going on with the case of the rapist of the 10-yr.-old in Ohio. I think it would be safe to say we don't know the full story yet:
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/15/2022 - 2:00am
Adoption splainer
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 3:14am
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 4:52am
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 5:25am
VERY clever lady doctor, experienced at figuring out workarounds of the laws of other "states" -
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 12:56pm
Playing the birth complications odds - which is life threatening enough?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/death-risk-pregnancy-despite-lifesaving-e...
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 1:51pm
Where The Midterms Could Most Affect Abortion Access
By Nathaniel Rakich, Geoffrey Skelley and Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux @ FiveThirtyEight.com, June 29, 2022, AT 6:00 AM
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/02/2022 - 6:04pm
Pro-life blind spots continued
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/03/2022 - 8:48am
by artappraiser on Tue, 07/05/2022 - 2:10pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 07/05/2022 - 2:41pm
If you're carrying a baby to term for someone to adopt & you run into complications? You're fucked.
One of H&R Block's 57 reasons why this Supreme Court approach sucks.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 07/06/2022 - 2:44am
in reply to this
and you know, he's right! And he's being nice not calling the E.U. dumb hypocrites for that vote!
by artappraiser on Thu, 07/07/2022 - 11:39pm
And not only that, let's look at the current abortion law in Poland, another state of the united states of the E.U.:
what dumb hypocrites, really! They let each state decide! They have no right to an abortion in the E.U. as a whole.
by artappraiser on Thu, 07/07/2022 - 11:49pm
You left out the gratuitous shot at Polish leftists for supporting such a losing cause/doing a crappy job/not selling something the people want.
https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/06/23/polish-parliament-rejects-bill-to...
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/09/us/abortion-stories-black-women-reaj/...
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 07/09/2022 - 8:19am
Will humanizing abortion help?
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/09/us/abortion-stories-black-women-reaj/...
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 07/09/2022 - 8:13am
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/09/2022 - 11:25am
Actually makes sense for woman 8 1/2 months preggers to drive in the safer lane.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 07/09/2022 - 5:31pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/11/2022 - 9:57pm
Does Alito know this? Maybe could insert an IUD up his ass w/o lubricant to give him 1st hand experience.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 07/12/2022 - 5:50am
Stupid woke non-female pregnancy BS
Dumb fucking activist and Huffpost think they "schooled " a Senator by playing games with maybe 7 fucking non-female pregnancies in the whole goddamn world vs 140 million female births each year and perhaps 1/3 to 1/2 that amount of FEMALE aborted pregnancies. So shut the fuck up, you self-absorbed overinflated bullshitters and let WOMEN get the fucking help they need without interlopers trying to seize the spotlight. Ok, a few transgenders can get pregnant - take a bow, sit down, and shut up now - it's not about you, or it's 99.99% not about you. Yeah, you got an asterisk in the Guess Book of World Records - should we build you your own national highway system to show you how special you are vs the 150million+ naturally born women in the US? Fucking Absurdistan.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/professor-schools-sen-josh-hawley-for-his...
https://www.parents.com/pregnancy/my-body/pregnancy-health/trans-and-non...
Fuck me - "women" in quotes. If I was born with 2 cocks i might feel "excluded" that the world presumed every guy had 1, is that it? Why don't they make urinals with 2 dips so i don't feel "excluded". How CIS-normative a million years of development with only women getting pregnant is? Have these people seen the movie "Freaks"? Deal with it. 4 billion females have to shift their language all around because a few transgenders want to play the birthing game? Get fucking stuffed. And i really don't think of people who do odd things with their bodies as Freaks - we're here to break barriers and have fun or not, our choice. I've known super radical gender changing /body changing individuals, would like to think of them as friends. But demanding everyone adopt your specific terms as a distinct mini-minority is narcissism and craziness.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 07/12/2022 - 3:12pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 07/12/2022 - 8:17pm
BTW he's an illegal immigrant
Franklin County Municipal Court Judge Cynthia Ebner said the case did not warrant Fuentes — who is believed to be undocumented — to be held without bond.
by artappraiser on Wed, 07/13/2022 - 3:52pm
(not sure where to put this - Media, Abortion, or counterweight to the "left wing woke causes all the irrational debate" meme)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 07/15/2022 - 7:46am
see also what I plopped upthread on the rape case
http://dagblog.com/comment/318777#comment-318777
on Fri, 07/15/2022 - 2:00am
girl's mom doesn't want to talk, claims what is being said about rapist is all lies etc. I might add that one consider the idea that the doctor may have wanted to keep it quiet according to mom's wishes but in actuality in most state law situations doctors can't do that if it's suspected "child abuse" and in this case, it not doubt is.
Life is complicated, doesn't always fit the political narratives! Things like: guess what, illegal immigrants often don't like social workers, or anyone butting into their business, go figure...
edit to add: if true, why did the accused rapist initially get i.d.'d as a minor? was it just a mistake or someone's foolish intent to have the case treated as if he were one?
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/15/2022 - 1:59pm
Yes, getting rid of a complex situation before it turns into a life is a big improvement for the world, even if there's some sadness that not every pregnancy is welcome, just like not every intimate intercourse isn't good sex or romantic. This grandiose scheme that it all has to work out cuz God made it that way is crazy tunes.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 07/15/2022 - 3:11pm
more:
Peter Moskos retweeted this reply to the above
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/15/2022 - 6:01pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/18/2022 - 4:22pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/18/2022 - 6:13pm
I see Axios has got this so we can go there instead of here: Dashboard: The latest on Roe v. Wade and abortion
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/22/2022 - 6:02pm
WOW EXCELLENT AD! Short and so to the point. Genius really!
by artappraiser on Mon, 07/25/2022 - 4:10pm