Oh look, all p.o.c. don't all think alike and aren't sworn to uphold the BLM movement. Who knew?
"BLM has exposed internalised racism. Many non-white people have become so sensitive to the notion of ‘white privilege’ that I, as a black conservative, am accused of pandering to white people. I am not free to hold the views I do".@estherk_k on racehttps://t.co/GUNaF0T8f7
What bubble are you in that it comes as a surprise that not every black supports BLM?
Every black person did not support Barack Obama.
Edit to add:
Being a Black Conservative and especially a Trump supporters is not a popular opinion.
However, Black Conservatives labeled Black Democrats as having a slave mentality and of being on a Democrat Plantation
A closer look at the phrase “Democrat plantation” and the divisions that accompany it, however, make clear much of this rhetoric is shallow and ahistorical. It distorts the current state of the relationship between Democrats and African American voters, and deprives the latter of agency, in part because of a failure to adequately understand the historical comparison that this rhetoric purports to make.
Historian Leah Wright Rigueur, author of “The Loneliness of the Black Republican,” noted that black Republicans criticized the plantation politics of the Democratic Party as early as 1964, inspiring white conservatives to occasionally deploy the phrase to critique liberals. They spread the plantation trope throughout print media in the 1970s and 1980s, eventually helping it gain mainstream attention in the 1990s.
Author and political pundit Armstrong Williams was arguably the most powerful purveyor of the phrase, promoting the notion that the Democratic Party had betrayed black voters for three decades. But the plantation trope was appropriated by others, including a local white columnist and radio host in Denver named Mike Rosen; the Log Cabin Republicans, a conservative LGBT organization; and Louis Farrakhan, who notoriously leveled “fierce jabs” against Bill Clinton in 1996. He claimed the Democratic Party’s leaders failed black Americans and that anyone inclined to support Clinton were “slaves sold out to the Democratic plantation.” Unlike black conservatives, Farrakhan’s solution was a third-party candidate who could deliver on campaign promises through their exclusive commitment to black voters’ collective interests.
They are approaching things from a U.K. standpoint, but it mimics arguments in the US.
The Henry Jackson Society’s Black Lives Matter UK anthology provides a platform for some of those voices. Its authors — who prioritise cohesion over difference — set out practical and realistic paths to improving community outcomes and healing social divisions in Britain.
Binding their contributions together is a belief that hard-left identity politics – much of which is culturally imported from the USA – threatens to weaken domestic race relations and destabilise Britain’s multi-racial democracy.
The arguments are similar to those used by Conservatives against Black activists in the United States. So-called identity politics will destabilize the country. They are a danger.
what kind of bubble I travel in, well, I guess I'd say it's a huge global bubble of cross cultural modernity as that article is about BLM iterations in the UK, as influenced by the U.S.
And your bubble, as I see it, that's a tiny segment of U.S. population that is called a minority because in fact, it is a small minority!
Your reading and information, you keep it tight and small, you stay within a very small tribal area you seem to have total lack of interest in or travels outside of that bubble, any other politics, race color nation or creed doesn't interest you much. For you, it's hard to even show interest in black conservatives, but you try here, a momentary venturing outside of the myopic view.
Still I've never seen you venture past the boundaries of the standard black minority U.S. culture , not even rural U.S. blacks, it's all just standard Root.com stuff, no BlackEnterpreneur.com for you. And mixed race Latinos or Hispanics or Muslims, god forbid, that would be Martian territory for you. Much less showing any interest,say , Kenyan-Americans, or Kenyan Brits, or Caribbean Brits, or, Syrian-Americans or Turkish-Americans or Turkish Germans, that would be like going to Pluto for you.
Very very small bubble of interest you've shown here through a decade or so of posting on Dag, with repetition of memes within that small bubble, through cherry picking stories tfor confirmational bias. The main obvious agenda, close your mind, hunt for evidence in news of what you believe, and keep telling yourself the same thing over and over and over and eventually you hope it will be true.
Thomas Chatterton Williams, Coleman Hughes, etc are not mainstream but you repeatedly post about them. You also seem to focus on homicides.
The UK post notes that they are taking the same crouched position as their counterparts in the United States. The feel boxed in and not able to get their message out to a wider audience. You posted on the panel at Skidmore College. The participants included Orlando Patterson and Glenn Loury. Every one on the panel admitted that their students were not receptive to their message. I also keep up with the Black artists and activists in Europe. Are you aware of the recent action taken by John Boyega?
Chloe Valdary is interesting. She has made interesting comments about Candace Owens and anti-Semitism. She also notes the meme of Black Democratic voters being on a plantation is insane. Her twitter feed is interesting. As I have noted before I follow Blogginheads with Loury and McWhorter. I have pointed out that the big thing that detracts from the message of Valdary, Loury, et al. is the number of wingnut that follow them, praise their comments and use comments to attack the Black community. Loury, et. al. realize this is a problem.
Have you actually read Chatterton William's two books? Have you read McWhorter's books? I'm guessing you take snippets from articles. I doubt that you have read much by Roxane Gay, or you would not have misinterpreted her. I am also surprised that I know more about Camille Paglia than you.
On the Left, there are recent, inspiring books by Bakari Sellars, Tiffany Cross, Isabel Wilkerson, Eddie Glaude, etc. Their are no counterparts on the Right. Shermichael Singleton seems interesting, but he has declared himself an Independent after leaving the GOP, and doesn't have any books coming up.
Regarding rural blacks, I have pointed out the Democratic Party overlooks them at their own peril. The ridicule of Christianity by Liberal whites is not helpful.
I keep up.
I don't write about the Middle East because I only know what I read in the news. I looked at the signing of a peace agreement between three nations that were not at war and wonder whether there is a deep meaning.
Comments
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/16/2020 - 8:36pm
What bubble are you in that it comes as a surprise that not every black supports BLM?
Every black person did not support Barack Obama.
Edit to add:
Being a Black Conservative and especially a Trump supporters is not a popular opinion.
However, Black Conservatives labeled Black Democrats as having a slave mentality and of being on a Democrat Plantation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/08/how-democratic-plantation-became-one-conservatives-favorite-slurs/
You don't let the slurs define you.
Edit to add:
They are approaching things from a U.K. standpoint, but it mimics arguments in the US.
https://henryjacksonsociety.org/publications/blacklivesmatter/
The arguments are similar to those used by Conservatives against Black activists in the United States. So-called identity politics will destabilize the country. They are a danger.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 09/16/2020 - 10:34pm
what kind of bubble I travel in, well, I guess I'd say it's a huge global bubble of cross cultural modernity as that article is about BLM iterations in the UK, as influenced by the U.S.
And your bubble, as I see it, that's a tiny segment of U.S. population that is called a minority because in fact, it is a small minority!
Your reading and information, you keep it tight and small, you stay within a very small tribal area you seem to have total lack of interest in or travels outside of that bubble, any other politics, race color nation or creed doesn't interest you much. For you, it's hard to even show interest in black conservatives, but you try here, a momentary venturing outside of the myopic view.
Still I've never seen you venture past the boundaries of the standard black minority U.S. culture , not even rural U.S. blacks, it's all just standard Root.com stuff, no BlackEnterpreneur.com for you. And mixed race Latinos or Hispanics or Muslims, god forbid, that would be Martian territory for you. Much less showing any interest,say , Kenyan-Americans, or Kenyan Brits, or Caribbean Brits, or, Syrian-Americans or Turkish-Americans or Turkish Germans, that would be like going to Pluto for you.
Very very small bubble of interest you've shown here through a decade or so of posting on Dag, with repetition of memes within that small bubble, through cherry picking stories tfor confirmational bias. The main obvious agenda, close your mind, hunt for evidence in news of what you believe, and keep telling yourself the same thing over and over and over and eventually you hope it will be true.
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/17/2020 - 1:38am
Cherry-picking
Thomas Chatterton Williams, Coleman Hughes, etc are not mainstream but you repeatedly post about them. You also seem to focus on homicides.
The UK post notes that they are taking the same crouched position as their counterparts in the United States. The feel boxed in and not able to get their message out to a wider audience. You posted on the panel at Skidmore College. The participants included Orlando Patterson and Glenn Loury. Every one on the panel admitted that their students were not receptive to their message. I also keep up with the Black artists and activists in Europe. Are you aware of the recent action taken by John Boyega?
Chloe Valdary is interesting. She has made interesting comments about Candace Owens and anti-Semitism. She also notes the meme of Black Democratic voters being on a plantation is insane. Her twitter feed is interesting. As I have noted before I follow Blogginheads with Loury and McWhorter. I have pointed out that the big thing that detracts from the message of Valdary, Loury, et al. is the number of wingnut that follow them, praise their comments and use comments to attack the Black community. Loury, et. al. realize this is a problem.
Have you actually read Chatterton William's two books? Have you read McWhorter's books? I'm guessing you take snippets from articles. I doubt that you have read much by Roxane Gay, or you would not have misinterpreted her. I am also surprised that I know more about Camille Paglia than you.
On the Left, there are recent, inspiring books by Bakari Sellars, Tiffany Cross, Isabel Wilkerson, Eddie Glaude, etc. Their are no counterparts on the Right. Shermichael Singleton seems interesting, but he has declared himself an Independent after leaving the GOP, and doesn't have any books coming up.
Regarding rural blacks, I have pointed out the Democratic Party overlooks them at their own peril. The ridicule of Christianity by Liberal whites is not helpful.
I keep up.
I don't write about the Middle East because I only know what I read in the news. I looked at the signing of a peace agreement between three nations that were not at war and wonder whether there is a deep meaning.
I have a post up about Barr's bizarre statements.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 09/17/2020 - 9:11am