#BLM: Why does ACLU co-mingle very different cases?

By PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 4:55am |

URL:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/05/georgia-brunswick-shooting-ahmaud-arbery-grand-jury

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The ACLU?

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 6:57am

Helps to read whole article of the ink. They are featured in the last two paragraphs, as a summary. Alternately, if not liking reading, one could use the search function on one's browser.

by artappraiser on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 7:28am

I read the article. Two white men were initially not charged for the homicide of a black jogger by two DAs. The third DA is waiting for a grand jury. After reading about the homicide and the failure to seek justice in the early portion of the case. My question remains, "The ACLU?".

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 8:32am

You sure are one hard-headed mother*cker.

Andrea Young, the executive director of the ACLU of Georgia, compared the killing to that of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black teenager who was shot in 2012 by a neighborhood watch leader.

“The vigilante behavior that we saw in Brunswick is unacceptable in a civilized society. We call on the officials in Brunswick to enforce the rule of law so that it can be safe for citizens to walk the streets,” said Young. “Ahmaud was killed three days before the anniversary of the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin. Both incidents are a reminder that white supremacy has been a foundation for our country and leads repeatedly to the targeting and harming people of color, particularly African Americans.”

And this pisses me off because I think it's exactly the tactic that's guaranteed to go nowhere or work backwards - that whites can be horrified by the murder of a black guy innocently out jogging in broad daylight, while wont be too sympathetic towards a sneaky kid hanging around cars at night, jumping a security watchman & beating him. [having Shaun King involved also doesn't help]

And I couldn't help but notice the similarity in this young man's murder and the hit job on Cade in Ozark - not that Cade didn't well deserve it, Aubrey not.

(even a HUGE if whether Aubrey had anything to do with whatever burglaries, renegade justice is certainly not condoned in a case where the 2 killers didn't even report their suspiscions, and death is a way over the top penalty for robberies. Just as it would be for Trayvon if he hadn't surprised a neighborhood watch guy at night & started beating him)

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 8:41am

The ACLU won't be trying the case. The ACLU is not a factor.
The media has conducted interviews with the mother and her attorney.

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 9:35am

If the ACLU wasn't a factor, they wouldn't have a quote from the ACLU, would they? These orgs help raise public response. If they screw it up, public interest wanes. But ignore the news ecosystem and whatever you prefer.

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 2:40pm

The black community pushed the DAs. The family used the head of the NAACP as their spokesman. The paper used the ACLU.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-shooting-of-ahmaud-arbery-an-unarmed-black-man-is-roiling-georgia

BTW, the Boston Globe also made the connection to Trayvon Martin.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/05/06/nation/black-man-was-lynched-this-year-his-killers-have-yet-be-charged/

What amazes me is that after reading the tragic story, the Trayvon Martin comment is what set you off.

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 3:04pm

News outlets linking the two cases

Washington Post

Arbery’s death came three days before the anniversary of the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., said Andrea Young, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/05/ahmaud-arbery-killing/

New York Times

Mr. Arbery was killed three days before the anniversary of the 2012 killing of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed African-American teenager whose confrontation with a Florida neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, helped ignite the Black Lives Matter movement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/us/ahmed-arbery-shooting-georgia.html

Atlanta Journal Constitution

Some have compared Arbery’s death to the 2012 fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, an African-American teenager from Sanford, Florida, killed by neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman. Attorney Benjamin Crump, who represented Martin’s parents, announced Tuesday he was now representing Arbery’s father.

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/bring-charges-against-brunswick-shooter/fz7taEww0Nqfedg8JgXm2K/

Newsweek

Arbery's death occurred three days before the eighth anniversary of the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin, the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia (ACLU-GA) called for "full transparency and accountability" as the investigation moved forward. "Both incidents are a reminder that white supremacy has been a foundation for our country and leads repeatedly to the targeting and harming people of color, particularly African Americans," the ACLU-GA said in an official statement. In 2012, a community watch member in Sanford, Florida, shot 17-year-old Martin as he was walking from a convenience store to the home of his father's fiancé. During the investigation that followed, Martin's shooter said he had followed the teenager because he looked suspicious.

https://www.newsweek.com/fatal-shooting-black-georgia-jogger-ahmaud-arbery-explained-1502385

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 3:26pm

I note the "3 days before the 8th anniversary" formula. There is a 1 of 50 chance of being within 3 days (same week), and I'm sure editors would have squeezed in "same month" if farther apart.

In any case, a gangland-style killing is getting the response from the public (not police) it deserves.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 12:16am

Well, I don't much like black people being killed under horridly undeserved and unfair conditions. A black guy put in the back of a police van unsecured and driven/slung around til he dies. A black guy put in a chokehold and says he can't breath and dying. A black guy having his head pummelled into the pavement by a cop for 5 minutes. A white guy acting up but there's a black guy nearby so security arrests him instead despite all the people around saying it wasn't him.

And yet we have to dilute the outrage by bringing up a kid who attacked a neighborhood watch guy, pummeling him mercilessly. Well done, chaps.

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 3:57pm

If there was no video, no one would face possible charges in this case. Arbery would have been a thug trying to steal something. Zimmerman is a sociopath who got away with a homicide because there was no video.

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 4:08pm

Zimmerman got away with self-defense because there were witnesses. A jury found him innocent. It doesn't matter whether Trayvon ate Skittles or wore a hoodie. He jumped a neighborhood watch guy and that guy had permission for self-defense.

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 4:18pm

Martin was defending himself from crazed Zimmerman. Zimmerman was told not to go after Martin.

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 4:23pm

Jumping on someone from behind a corner and beating them is not "defending" unless that person had actively threatened or attacked earlier. Try "I had to blindside and beat up the black guy because he was walking behind me." Is that how you want the law to read?

"Crazed" is an unwarranted ad hominem you toss in to try to sway the argument. I've had a guy hang around my van and others in a lot and looking up to no good and sure enough later the door was jimmied and my toolkit was missing. Hard to believe, eh? (this guy was white - didn't really matter skin color - mattered obvious city behavior.)

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 4:37pm

We know that Zimmerman went after Martin after being told not to. Zimmerman was the aggressor. In the case in Georgia, Arbery was assumed to be the aggressor. The video told a different tale.

Edit to add:

Given the connection made by news sites, many people do not agree that Martin was the aggressor. Zimmerman's subsequent behavior is consistent with a volatile personality.

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 5:04pm

It was tried in court, 12 6 jurors. Wish that little detail away all you want.

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 5:08pm

How can I wish it away?

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 5:24pm

Well since a Jury decided it I guess it's true. No more appeals on death row cases I guess.

by Tom Jones (not verified) on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 5:31pm

Most of those cases were railroaded, witnesses ignored, prosecutors complicit, etc. In this case everyone was gunning for a conviction and the facts just weren't on their side. Perhaps a manslaughter charge could have stuck, buut not murder. Meantime the guy whose court appointed lawyer was an alcoholic who forgot to call key witnesses and let important deadlines slip by has my total sympathy. Again, don't mix types of cases unnecessarily. There are 1000s of cops and even civilians free after doing much much worse than Zimmerman. There are many more prisoners who've been treated awfully and unfairly by a crappy criminal and prison system.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 12:09am

Zimmerman's behavior should have been criminal imo. It went beyond what a neighborhood watch should be permitted to do. But to suggest that Martin should be permitted to physically attack Zimmerman for stalking him is nonsense. He was following me and I was afraid he would attack me so I preemptively attacked him is not and should not be part of any self defense argument.

by ocean-kat on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 6:48pm

Who called out for help?

by rmrd0000 on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 10:28pm

Probably you, because you're making a fool of yourself again.

by ocean-kat on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:00am

F*k you

Edit to add:

The ice was broken by "hard-headed mother*cker."

Your opinion doesn't matter. Again.

2nd Edit to add:

There is video of a homicide. No arrests have been made. We await court re-opening for a grand jury to hear the case. The post's title suggests that the real problem is a statement made by someone in the ACLU. I feel confident in my position on the matter.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 8:47am

The real problem was a young man's murder & the implicit raciam. The Trayvon ref was a largely dissimilar distraction.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 10:21am

There is no video to document who called for help.

We have no video of what started the fight

.Martin could have called for help

Zimmerman could have called for help

Zimmerman is a sociopath who was armed

So, yeah the Skittles kid was the thug, just like Arbery was the thug until we saw video.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 10:23am

Recordings. Phone calls. Witnesses. Physical evidence. A trial.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 10:25am

All after the initial confrontation.

So far no witness has testified about who started the fight and there have been conflicting accounts about who was on top during the fight. Selma Mora, another witness, testified Thursday that Zimmerman was on top of Martin in the moments before a gunshot ended the fight.

Mora told the court Thursday that at some point she saw a man in "patterns between black and red" on top, indicating Zimmerman.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-beaten-prosecution-witnesses/story?id=19517236

Zimmerman was told not to pursue Martin.

Zimmerman today, suing Elizabeth Warren and Pete Buttigieg

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/19/21144670/george-zimmerman-lawsuit-warren-buttigieg-travyon-martin-defamation-tweets

And the dead youth's family

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/04/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-lawsuit

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 10:51am

Some on the jury wanted to convict on manslaughter, but that wasn't one of the available charges.

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 11:45pm

Justin Amash:

The horrific murder of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia is a reminder that we still do not live the truth that all are created equal. He was gunned down without regard for his humanity. The video is sickening and heartbreaking, and his family deserves justice.
— Justin Amash (@justinamash) May 6, 2020

by artappraiser on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 11:06pm

Biden, Abrams:

'Killed in cold blood': Biden, Abrams call for action in shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery https://t.co/4WUiLxXOOL
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) May 6, 2020

by artappraiser on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 11:42pm

Klobuchar, Schiff, Sanders, Warren:

Ahmaud Arbery was murdered — plain and simple. There must be justice for this heinous crime. https://t.co/zxmjVq3QRw
— Amy Klobuchar (@amyklobuchar) May 6, 2020

Ahmaud Arbery, just 25 years old, was gunned down while jogging in his own neighborhood.

Despite the existence of a video, neither attacker has been arrested or charged. An all-too familiar story.

Everyone deserves justice and due process under the law. Ahmaud’s life matters. https://t.co/PTaWIEtqIi
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) May 7, 2020

The men who murdered Ahmaud Arbery must be held accountable and there must justice for Ahmaud's family. There is no doubt in my mind that Ahmaud would be alive today if he were white.
— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) May 6, 2020

Ahmaud Arbery was just out for a jog—and he was gunned down.

This video is deeply sickening, and the fact that no action has been taken after two months is unacceptable. Ahmaud’s friends and family deserve accountability and justice.https://t.co/XNtZ4ndmEg
— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 6, 2020

Those are ones I just ran across in an easy search, didn't look too hard

by artappraiser on Wed, 05/06/2020 - 11:48pm

Charles Blow in the NYT

“It appears Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael and Bryan Williams were following in ‘hot pursuit,’ a burglary suspect, with solid first hand probable cause, in their neighborhood, and asking/telling him to stop. It appears their intent was to stop and hold this criminal suspect until law enforcement arrived. Under Georgia law this is perfectly legal.”

The third and current prosecutor on the case said Tuesday that the case should be heard by a grand jury.

He cites the statute: “A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge.”

But there is a clear problem here: Arbery had committed no offense. His only offense, the thing that drew suspicion, was that he was black and male and running through these white men's neighborhood.

The recused prosecutor’s letter states: “Given the fact Arbery initiated the fight, at the point Arbery grabbed the shotgun, under Georgia law, McMichael was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself.”

The similarities here to the Trayvon Martin case are uncanny. These men stalked Arbery, projecting onto him a criminality of which he was not guilty, then used self-defense as justification to gun him down in an altercation that they provoked. Arbery was killed eight years to the month after Martin was killed, just about three hours north.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/opinion/ahmaud-arbery-killing.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 12:37pm

Uncanny similarities.
1) Daytime, sunshine on public road rather than nightime in rain in private gated community
2) Jogger Arbery lives nearby, jogging as regular activity, rather than unregistered unknown guest hanging out in parking lot in rain talking on phone
3) Truck parked illegally in road rather than being driven by neighborhood watch guy
4) Jogger chased by 3 guys in 2 trucks, vs followed on foot by single neighborhood watch guy
5) Guys in truck don't report incident to 911, while neighborhood watch guy does, updating on situation & suspicions
6) Shooters leave truck with weapons drawn, approach jogger armed with shotgun & pistol in threatening manner, while neighborhood watch guy keeps distance, describing events to dispatcher
7) Jogger Arbery tries to avoid shooters, first turning and running other way (back towards home?), then shifts to side of road on passenger side rather than confront (also safer for possible oncoming traffic), vs. boy who waits for neighborhood watch guy in the bushes and jumps him by surprise
8) Video shows 2 guys in truck approaching jogger with shotgun & pistol, followed by a struggle standing up, showing no danger to gunmen until they accosted jogger, vs boy who apparently jumped on neighborhood watch and was beating him while kneeling on top
9) Reporting officers didn't check gunmen's guns, whereas neighborhood watch guy surrendered his weapon and was taken to the station for questioning and photos.
10) State makes no effort to charge killers until video surfaces 2 months later, vs case against neighborhood watch guy undertaken with relative thoroughness.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 1:40pm

It's just like you to attempt to cloud the issue with trenchant observations and facts.

by ocean-kat on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 1:50pm

There is no video of the confrontation. But at least you two are satisfied. You provide my daily humor.

Edit to add

He was totally innocent, but some wanted to convict on different charges.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:15pm

Of course you would choose to comment on my joke instead of PP analysis. That's just one of the ways you avoid serious discussion.

by ocean-kat on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:19pm

Cut the crap. The reason that multiple sources connect the cases is because they feel sociopath Zimmerman literally got away with murder.

There were no charges brought against the officer who killed Eric Garner despite video.

There is no guarantee that the men who killed Arbery will be convicted.

Enjoy your dialogue with PP.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:23pm

From the sole minority on the jury

Even the jurors were split in their views of whether justice was served. On Thursday, the lone minority on the panel, a Puerto Rican woman, said in a television interview that Zimmerman “got away with murder,” but based on Florida law she had no choice but to vote for his acquittal. Earlier, a white juror said in a television interview that she accepted Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense and that he was justified in shooting Martin.

Polling at the time

Polls conducted in the days after the July 13 verdict bear out these starkly different views of the criminal justice system. In a Washington Post-ABC News poll, 87 percent of African Americans said Martin’s shooting was unjustified and 86 percent disapproved of the verdict. A Pew poll also found that 86 percent of black respondents were dissatisfied with the verdict.

Whites, by a slight majority, 51 percent, approved of the verdict, according to The Post-ABC News poll. In the Pew poll, 49 percent of whites approved of the verdict, with 30 percent disapproving.

Further, the Pew poll found that 78 percent of black respondents thought the case “raises important issues about race that need to be discussed.” But only 28 percent of white respondents agreed with that statement, with 60 percent saying race was “getting too much attention.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/after-zimmerman-verdict-a-racial-divide-lingers/2013/07/27/2d8cb316-f570-11e2-aa2e-4088616498b4_story.html

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:31pm

Right and wrong isn't determined by a popular vote. If you had a good argument to support your opinion you'd make it. You wouldn't resort to a popularity contest.

by ocean-kat on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:43pm

We. Have. No video.

Zimmerman followed Martin after being told not to. You could hear the rage in Zimmerman's voice. There is nothing that will change your opinion. I really don't care what you think, so I point to polls that show what others think. Charles Blow, along with others agrees with my point of view. You are not even an afterthought.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:47pm

So no one was ever judged and convicted without video.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:57pm

People have been convicted without video. Eric Garner was murdered and there was no conviction despite video. Zimmerman chased Martin.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 3:50pm

Once again if you could support your opinion with a good argument you'd do that. Instead you resort to ad homimen. No one here cares about anyone here. We're all strangers. When you get backed into a corner and are losing you always say this. If this wasn't the internet you'd be putting your hands over your ears and screaming, "I can't hear you. I can't hear you." This is why I ignore 90% of what you post. You're incapable of rational dialog.

by ocean-kat on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:59pm

Again, you seem to think that I care about your opinion.

Edit to add:

Your comment about juries is hilarious

When BBQ Becky made her call and no one was cited, you did not say let the community handle. You ranted about the encouragement of public defecation.

The community solved the problem, yet you complained.

Convictions are overturned, but you are certain that this jury was correct.

I explained my position. You do not like my opinion. Not my problem.

Out in the real world, Charles Blow and others question the verdict in the Zimmerman case.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 3:58pm

If you read my post you would have seen the part where I said No one here cares about anyone's opinion.It's not like I haven't pointed this out several times before. Is your problem reading or reading comprehension? I would think we could finally agree on this one thing. You don't care about my opinion. I don't care about your opinion. No one here cares about anyone's opinion. The reason you bring it up is to avoid discussion. But now that we agree is it possible to move on to the issues where we disagree? Or is repeatedly pointing out the obvious all you have?

by ocean-kat on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 4:01pm

I never said anything about juries. I never said the jury was correct. As always you make up shit to avoid discussion. You're a pathological liar.

I, of course, did not say let the community handle it. I don't accept popular opinion. it's often wrong. The community didn't solve the problem, the police did when they warned the people breaking the law and the people agreed to dismantle the BBQ. Foolish people like you politicized the situation and politicians succumbed to popular demand and decided to ignore valuable health regulations.You never addressed why these regulations exist in virtually every park in America and abroad nor did you address my reasons as to why they exist. You have no arguments to defend your opinions. All you have is avoidance techniques. I no longer try to discuss issues with you. All I do now is point out the techniques you use to avoid rational dialog.

by ocean-kat on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 4:20pm

Unlike Trump, I don't use phrases like "totally innocent". Quite possibly Zimmerman used bad judgment, both in trying to track Trayvon's next steps and taking a licensed pistol with him down the path. Possibly a manslaughter charge would have been appropriate - I'm not a lawyer or enforcement expert.

Now, would you want to encourage white guys to turn and question black guys following them and start beating the black guys if they don't go away? Would that be forgivable, no charges? Because laws and policies tend to cut both ways.

Do note that you will always find "some" who want to do all sorts of things, including drinking Lysol, and polls will tell you the Americans who elected a congenital idiot president still support him quite a bit. I'm looking for the "reasonable man/woman" standard.

Obviously "Take A Knee" highlighted issues about race that need to be discussed. But not much to argue over whether vigilantes can approach whoever they deem "suspects" with loaded weapons on a back road without alerting police, and then shoot them. The intent of the law in following standard procedures is usually clear.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:27pm

Now, would you want to encourage white guys to turn and question black guys following them and start beating the black guys if they don't go away? Would that be forgivable, no charges? Because laws and policies tend to cut both ways.

The white guys would just call the police and let the police do the beating for them.

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 2:43pm

They obviously didn't do that in the Arbery case.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 4:20pm

Dagblog catnip. With thought provoking and disturbing threads on TB and vaccines and DoJ excess, etc, we'll dig the same mine over and over

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 4:43pm

The two men involved in the homicide have been arrested

(CNN)Two men involved in the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery near Brunswick, Georgia, have been arrested and face murder and aggravated assault charges, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

Gregory McMichael and his son, Travis McMichael, were taken into custody and will be booked into the Glynn County Jail, the GBI said Thursday evening.

Arbery, 25, was jogging in a neighborhood outside Brunswick on February 23 when Gregory McMichael, a former police officer, and his son chased him down, authorities said.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/07/us/ahmaud-arbery-arrests-mcmichaels/index.html

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 8:42pm

The DA that charged this black woman for felony voter fraud and took her to trial TWICE is the same DA that chose NOT to arrest the McMichaels for murdering Ahmaud Arbery, despite seeing the video of his death. https://t.co/2cor4ezvEJ
— josie duffy rice (@jduffyrice) May 7, 2020

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 10:13pm

Richard Fausset reporting from Atlanta for NYTimes:

BREAKING: Georgia police arrested a white father and son and charged them with murder in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old black man whose death in February has recently attracted widespread outrage.https://t.co/qCOiOMM3uh
— Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs (@NickAtNews) May 8, 2020

by artappraiser on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 11:04pm

The father in the shooting knew Arbery

Greg McMichael, who provided gun cover for his son as he fought and eventually shot a young black jogger, may have known the victim long before their encounter in a subdivision just south of Brunswick, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has learned.

In his letter of recusal to Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr, Waycross Judicial Circuit District Attorney George Barnhill wrote that his son, a prosecutor in the Brunswick DA’s office, and McMichael, then an investigator in that same office, “both helped with the previous prosecution of (Ahmaud) Arbery.”

https://www.ajc.com/news/local/brunswick-attorney-released-the-video-arbery-shooting/JkpbvTuJt9wfl3tkcLTTvO/

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 11:27pm

The lawyer who released the video knows the men involved in the shooting

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/arbery-lawyer-defends-video-release/77-1191b57d-86eb-40cd-ad3c-b5776e3e57e2

by rmrd0000 on Thu, 05/07/2020 - 11:31pm

Trump laments ‘heart-breaking’ killing

@ BBC News, 4 hrs. ago

President Donald Trump has called the fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed black man in the US state of Georgia, a "very disturbing situation".

Mr Arbery was jogging in February when Gregory McMichael and his son Travis, who are white, confronted him. They now face murder and assault charges.

"My heart goes out to the parents and the family and friends," Mr Trump told Fox News on Friday

[....]

What did Trump say?

Speaking on the Fox & Friends programme on Friday morning, the president said he had seen the footage, which he described as "troubling" to anyone who watched it.

Mr Trump said the state's governor and law enforcement would be looking at the case "very strongly".

When asked about the racial issues at play in the case, the president said "justice getting done is the thing that solves that problem".

"But it's a heart-breaking thing."

Ivanka Trump, the president's daughter and a White House adviser, has also weighed in, asking in a tweet "why it seemingly took months, the release of a video and corresponding public outrage to catalyse action".

At a briefing later, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany was asked whether the US Department of Justice would get involved in the case. Ms McEnany did not rule out the possibility.

The department did not immediately respond to a request for comment from the BBC.

[....]

by artappraiser on Fri, 05/08/2020 - 5:03pm

I think the above is just proof of the validity of Peracles' title at the top of the thread, questioning why the ACLU was mixing two different kinds of cases. Because if even the Drumpf can express sympathy about this case, and not equivocate in any way, it's so fucking clear cut of a hate crime killing, there's virtually no comparison. (I can only think of one other instance of him doing the sympathy thing--whether fake or not--it was regards the poison gas attacks on "little babies" in Syria.)

by artappraiser on Fri, 05/08/2020 - 5:13pm

#BLM: Why does ACLU co-mingle very different cases?

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