I’ve just seen this tweet. I don’t know if you were out of the country at the time, but let me respectfully explain why this isn’t a fair reflection of what the referendum was about, and therefore what people "voted for".... https://t.co/iWaUaJmJ61
When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master—that's all."
~ Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass, 1872
earliest known version was published in Samuel Arnold's Juvenile Amusements in 1797[6] with the lyrics:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
Four-score Men and Four-score more,
Could not make Humpty Dumpty where he was before
The common text from 1954 is:
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again.[2]
This struck me this way: that what we think of as gridlock is amateur hour:
The House of Commons has just voted 310:310 on whether to have more indicative votes on Monday, in a microcosm of Britain's hamstrung Westminster system
The most enlightening element of the government statement on Brexit talks with Labour is this: “a sandwich lunch and fruit was served, with tea, coffee and biscuits throughout the day”.
Food historians generally attribute the creation of the sandwich, as we know it today, to John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich. This Englishman was said to have been fond of gambling. As the story goes, in 1762, during a 24 hour gambling streak he instructed a cook to prepare his food in such a way that it would not interfere with his game. The cook presented him with sliced meat between two pieces of toast. Perfect! This meal required no utensils and could be eaten with one hand, leaving the other free to continue the game.
A small comfort in challenging times: art reminds us that humans have come through such things before. Here's George Cumberland contemplating #Brexit (probably?) back in 1807. #RACollectionpic.twitter.com/9LdxYWdl9C
this one is not ironic to me, it's clearly they may be nasty lords, but their our nasty lords :
Brexit irony no. 452: Brexiters who railed against an unelected elite in Brussels now looking to hereditary peers in the House of Lords to facilitate a No Deal Brexit.
— Dr Bendor Grosvenor (@arthistorynews) April 4, 2019
Brexit is just one more example of a population virtually evenly divided between diametrically opposed policy. Parliament is struggling to find a compromise when no compromise is possible. It's similar to the division on abortion in the US with one side wanting abortion to be legal and the other side wanting to ban them all. Or one side wanting to raise taxes and the other side wanting to cut them. Only if one side wins the debate can the compromises begin. If we agree abortion should be legal we can debate and compromise on the rules. Or if we agree taxes should be raised or should be cut we can debate and compromise on how much to raise them on what economic group, or how much to cut them on which economic group. Until we decide on the path forward no compromise is possible.
[....] “Over the moon that @BernieSanders is running for President in 2020,” wrote Laura Pidcock, Labour’s shadow minister for business, energy and industrial strategy, in a tweet after he announced his candidacy. “Bernie was never just a candidate, his campaign was a movement, galvanising millions & offering hope across the globe.”
Richard Burgon, the Labour Party’s shadow justice secretary, confirmed that “the two teams” — Sanders’ and his party’s — "have talked.”
"Bernie Sanders’ last campaign was part of the inspiration for the way in which Labour approached the 2017 general election,” he said. “Where we went to a very low position in the polls to being the biggest swing to the Labour Party in a general election since 1945.”
Steve Howell, a former Labour strategist, agreed that Sanders’ insurgent 2016 primary challenge influenced thinking within the Corbyn campaign.
“I was not alone among Corbyn’s supporters in reflecting on what Labour could learn from the Sanders campaign,” he wrote in 2018. “Not only was there considerable common ground on policy, they were both ‘anti-establishment’ politicians who had the authenticity and credibility, on the one hand, to counter the right-wing populism of Donald Trump and [Brexit leader] Nigel Farage and, on the other, to inspire and mobilise young people on a scale not seen for a generation.” [....]
Brilliant, Labour missing the cause of their/Corbyn's big success - it was another case of voting against "that woman". In this case May had called snap elections specifically after saying she wouldn't call snap elections, but she trusted the polls too much and got buried, losing her majority. At that time LibDems were too tiny to gain much traction and SNP's Nicola Sturgeon was having a bad hair day or somehow not stirring the passions of her people, so Labour got the windfall across the UK.
This time around it's been 2 more years of this bother, when given the chance Jeremy leaps forward and... acts just as indecisive as Mother Theresa, plus he has a nice little antisemitic scandal going that only partially has to do with "did he/didn't he lay a wreath for Munich Olympics murderers" along with some suspicion his past love affair with Communism was a bit too close for comfort. So Labour's still playing pro-Brexit slowball while the People's Vote has had enough of the incompetence and constant spinning in circles, yet there's Jeremy discussing a May deal that's already been rejected several times, and Ministers have accelerated their resignations (apparently what they do in Britain when they disapprove, rather than keying each others' cars like in good ol' America)
Is this the outsider leftist suicide approach that Sanders has spread to the rest of the world? If so, good luck with all that. Wonder if they'll protest releasing their taxes as well (tho one Tory MP who's made a wad on Brexit didn't feel he had to divulge details, so it may not be required)
Ah vivid memories flooding back to me of begging for an "Incomplete" grade in grad school...
UK PM Theresa May writes to EU requesting #Brexit extension until 30 June 2019 - and says leaving with a deal is the "best outcome"https://t.co/J6OcCvtAyG
It's more like "please give me time enough to a bad job, because I really want to go to that summer festival and i'll be pretty busy after June so I wouldn't do it anyway"
Whereas Jacob Rees-Mogg proclaims with his Eton accent, "if they are kind enough to accommodate us, let's act like a bunch of fuckwits clogging up the pipes and being such an all-around nuisance they'll throw us out anyway". Seems he's embraced his punk rock persona some 40 years after it passed out of style.
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From Wikipedia ~ Humpty Dumpty:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/04/2019 - 5:24am
This struck me this way: that what we think of as gridlock is amateur hour:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/04/2019 - 5:20am
Oh, it's Hamstrung Monday, is it? I thought it was Hamstrung Wednesday - have to fix my shedyule.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/04/2019 - 7:01am
Waterlogged Thursday.
Jack and Jill Went Up the Hill or London Bridge Falling Down maybe?
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/04/2019 - 1:23pm
-FoodTimeline.org
this one is not ironic to me, it's clearly they may be nasty lords, but their our nasty lords :
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/04/2019 - 1:47pm
Sith Lords vs. Lord of the Rings vs Lord of the Flies -
"What's we got in our pocketses me preicious?"
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/04/2019 - 4:06pm
Brexit is just one more example of a population virtually evenly divided between diametrically opposed policy. Parliament is struggling to find a compromise when no compromise is possible. It's similar to the division on abortion in the US with one side wanting abortion to be legal and the other side wanting to ban them all. Or one side wanting to raise taxes and the other side wanting to cut them. Only if one side wins the debate can the compromises begin. If we agree abortion should be legal we can debate and compromise on the rules. Or if we agree taxes should be raised or should be cut we can debate and compromise on how much to raise them on what economic group, or how much to cut them on which economic group. Until we decide on the path forward no compromise is possible.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 04/04/2019 - 4:32pm
just in case ya missed the clues, Labour loud and proud Bernie Sanders fans @ Politico along with quotes from other internationale types in other countries
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/05/2019 - 1:59am
Brilliant, Labour missing the cause of their/Corbyn's big success - it was another case of voting against "that woman". In this case May had called snap elections specifically after saying she wouldn't call snap elections, but she trusted the polls too much and got buried, losing her majority. At that time LibDems were too tiny to gain much traction and SNP's Nicola Sturgeon was having a bad hair day or somehow not stirring the passions of her people, so Labour got the windfall across the UK.
This time around it's been 2 more years of this bother, when given the chance Jeremy leaps forward and... acts just as indecisive as Mother Theresa, plus he has a nice little antisemitic scandal going that only partially has to do with "did he/didn't he lay a wreath for Munich Olympics murderers" along with some suspicion his past love affair with Communism was a bit too close for comfort. So Labour's still playing pro-Brexit slowball while the People's Vote has had enough of the incompetence and constant spinning in circles, yet there's Jeremy discussing a May deal that's already been rejected several times, and Ministers have accelerated their resignations (apparently what they do in Britain when they disapprove, rather than keying each others' cars like in good ol' America)
Is this the outsider leftist suicide approach that Sanders has spread to the rest of the world? If so, good luck with all that. Wonder if they'll protest releasing their taxes as well (tho one Tory MP who's made a wad on Brexit didn't feel he had to divulge details, so it may not be required)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/05/2019 - 8:30am
The "Brincels" explained:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/05/2019 - 3:43am
Ah vivid memories flooding back to me of begging for an "Incomplete" grade in grad school...
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/05/2019 - 4:42am
It's more like "please give me time enough to a bad job, because I really want to go to that summer festival and i'll be pretty busy after June so I wouldn't do it anyway"
Whereas Jacob Rees-Mogg proclaims with his Eton accent, "if they are kind enough to accommodate us, let's act like a bunch of fuckwits clogging up the pipes and being such an all-around nuisance they'll throw us out anyway". Seems he's embraced his punk rock persona some 40 years after it passed out of style.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/05/2019 - 8:13am