I do think a good starting point would be for everyone to acknowledge that Biden's political problems are about events occurring in reality and not these old messaging disputes about the 2020 campaign. https://t.co/VBrQ1T791y
I don't actually think anyone disagrees with this, but the *idea* that someone disagrees with it gets selectively invoked by people who are trying to win fights about messaging.
But we all agree that no change to the message matters as much as growth, inflation, the virus, etc.
One thing donors could do that would be useful here would be to reward activists who are rigorous about the short-term impacts of their long-term agenda rather than incentivizing everyone to practice "now more than ever" politics.
Politicians inevitably face a wide array of policy demands from party-aligned groups that are oriented toward long-term ideological goals and you're realistically only going to do so much.
Ideally what you'd do is prioritize ones aligned with the short-term situation.
What happens instead is every group just insists all the time that their agenda is optimal for the current circumstances, even as the situation swings wildly from the underemployment of 2015 to the inflation of 2022 and people write checks expecting advocates to be dishonest.
Can nsuder the lack of a traditional presidential transition - how Biden was largely locked out of usual resources until Jan 20, and the entire politico-media arena stayed focused on Trump and insurrection, giving way only to allow a bit on COVID deaths. So much for the "honeymoon". We are only 14 months into Biden's presidency and the effect of this luke-warm to negative beginning treatment is an anchor weight. For all practical purposes, "what is Trump doing?" has been the focus most of this time, as the Republicans can't escape his gravity
a not insubstantial portion of American politics consists now of mobilizing anger with threats of imprisoning political opponents, none of whom will ever go to prison https://t.co/FDGUJgF7kw
Democratic messaging still controlled by The Woke trying to rectify history and ignoring current problems and GOP will have the advantage if this continues:
The Emmett till anti-lynching bill isn't going to do anything about the 340 murders in #Baltimore. Or the rising voiolent crime rate in every single Democrat City.
Sure it makes The Woke happy. That and two cents will get ya...Republican legislatures in nearly every state in the union if not a Republican-controlled U.S. Congress, which is also likely.
I see so many Dems cluelessly touting this "accomplishment". Sheesh.
(Ok, yes, not everyone's the new uberwoke Jon Stewart or Tucker Carlson. And in the good ol days, real working people ignored much of the chitchat until 1-2 months before elections, quickly condensing the issues and using the debates to cut through the bullshit of extreme marketing.
Sullivan's apparently a true believer that it's a worthy thing (I seem to remember something about formal debate history, tho I might be confusing him with Hitchens)
@jonstewart Below are my reflections on our recent encounter. I think we can both do better. So may I extend an open invitation to come on the Dishcast, where we can discuss this further with civility and grace?https://t.co/TywSNhdzwQ
Color me a true believer as well - William F. Buckley debating Gore Vidal or Noam Chomsky for all to see and draw their own conclusions. I liked earlier presidential debates before moderators decided to encourage food fights and horserace issues rather than policy & national import, but still, that Trump-Hillary debate is an unvarnished glimpse of real differences that can't be erased, Sarah Palin stands out as a lunkhead on prime time, etc. [yes, debates favor the most charismatic, which isn't good for thoughtful organized but more wallflower personality types, but that's also part of the general playing field]. Campus debates of course were typically rowdy if touching on anything useful, but still, there was an expectation that both sides would talk, basic principles would be espoused before the shoutdown began. Sully's a bit unrealistic in expecting a fair food fight (has he not seen the papers in 10 years; has he not seen Jon Stewart in 10 years?), but yes, it would be nice if moderators could hold off a slight bit with their smugness and editorializing while participants present. Too many electric 3rd rails of wokeness or conservatism that can't be dug into a bit - remembering how the difference between $12 and $15 became sacrosanct, if you didn't go for the higher you were evil (7 years later it's still at $7.25/hr - really important issue to obsess over). I'm amazed that the far left thinks state-sponsored indoctrination of kids on sexual preferences or anything is actually important - aside from preventing bullying, aren't there academic topics they should be learning to be able to do those $7.25 jobs? We can't even manage vaccines for schoolage kids anymore, a big step backwards. [I'm still wondering what math taught in K-8 we think is so important to the 90% who won't use more than basic logic and multiply/divide (and calculators that will do everything else), vs. understanding concepts & events of history, psychology, sociology, interpersonal/cultural communications, team building and project management, sales & marketing, physical well-being - i.e. exercise, basics of health & nutrition, simple biology and chemistry and physics, digital systems, design/aesthetics/art in society, and then argumentation/rhetoric/fake news vs. valid trains of thought, familiarity with valid references vs. unsupported assertions and random anecdotes... legal/civics/government including some basics of the Constitution and how citizens should participate, maybe some Wikipedia-like dashboards that everyone can go to keep a reality check on how fast things are changing in many ways, as well as gaps around the world so we have a bit of baseline.
nationwide, things are not looking good at this point for Democrats in the mid-terms; I've seen a lot of political types mentioning this poll analysis:
Men and particularly college educated men dumping the Democrats is naturally the headline.
But given that extreme volatility it’s equally remarkable how stable the #s are for women.
I would have expected steeper losses for Dems among non-college women https://t.co/TrnXDMTYO7
When Al Sharpton is sounding the alarm that the “woke” is going too far to the left, that should tell you that you got a problem pic.twitter.com/G7QMknsIHU
this is a perfect example, today The Woke are attacking Tony Dungy for avidly participating in a DeSantis pro-fatherhood event! Do they have shit for brains? I imagine DeSantis just loves all the screeching, is exactly what he hoped they would do, another way for libruls to be labeled as anti-family, Democrats lose a few more votes. And for what? What do they gain? Did they want to promote families without fathers or what? There is not even anything to gain for LBGTQ activists here, they just end up looking intolerant of traditional families.
Governor Ron DeSantis signs legislation to provide $70 million to promote fatherhood at the Bucs indoor facility as Tony Dungy looks on. pic.twitter.com/FShFxdqHcU
The lunatic left trying to cancel Tony Dungy (a man of impeccable character) for telling the truth? Dungy literally said what any clear minded individual with common sense knows is true (a child raised with a father is less likely to get into trouble). Liberalism=Disease. https://t.co/WmRwMM7mji
Tony Dungy is an awesome man!! I know personally what a stand up individual he is, because he's from my hometown. He thru the years, has not only donated millions, but has also donated his time to help people and kids of all colors and backgrounds. The nutty left has no clue!! https://t.co/Iz0NBflFtb
How many men have served as a head coach in the NFL since 2000? Perhaps more than 100. Out of all of those men, Tony Dungy is probably the most respected. Yet, many are hating him today for appearing with Gov. DeSantis.
If you read the comments under a trending Tony Dungy and somehow come away thinking progressives are not a collective horde of imbecilic simpletons, you're just as simple-minded as they are. Those halfwits are truly insufferable.
Oh boy. look who is ready and able to cancel Tony Dungy, as if his input would help:
Spoiler Alert: I worked with him. Tony Dungy's reputation is not spotless, and his Michael Sam comments disqualified him from being considered an example of loving fatherhood. https://t.co/WCjgSOPWn0
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They want to "message" instead. More on that:
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/31/2022 - 4:42pm
Can nsuder the lack of a traditional presidential transition - how Biden was largely locked out of usual resources until Jan 20, and the entire politico-media arena stayed focused on Trump and insurrection, giving way only to allow a bit on COVID deaths. So much for the "honeymoon". We are only 14 months into Biden's presidency and the effect of this luke-warm to negative beginning treatment is an anchor weight. For all practical purposes, "what is Trump doing?" has been the focus most of this time, as the Republicans can't escape his gravity
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/31/2022 - 8:13pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/31/2022 - 11:43pm
Democratic messaging still controlled by The Woke trying to rectify history and ignoring current problems and GOP will have the advantage if this continues:
Sure it makes The Woke happy. That and two cents will get ya...Republican legislatures in nearly every state in the union if not a Republican-controlled U.S. Congress, which is also likely.
I see so many Dems cluelessly touting this "accomplishment". Sheesh.
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/01/2022 - 2:26pm
But what is "debate"?
And are we really sincere about having them?
(Ok, yes, not everyone's the new uberwoke Jon Stewart or Tucker Carlson. And in the good ol days, real working people ignored much of the chitchat until 1-2 months before elections, quickly condensing the issues and using the debates to cut through the bullshit of extreme marketing.
But perhaps no longer.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 04/02/2022 - 3:30am
Sullivan's apparently a true believer that it's a worthy thing (I seem to remember something about formal debate history, tho I might be confusing him with Hitchens)
by artappraiser on Sun, 04/03/2022 - 2:14am
Color me a true believer as well - William F. Buckley debating Gore Vidal or Noam Chomsky for all to see and draw their own conclusions. I liked earlier presidential debates before moderators decided to encourage food fights and horserace issues rather than policy & national import, but still, that Trump-Hillary debate is an unvarnished glimpse of real differences that can't be erased, Sarah Palin stands out as a lunkhead on prime time, etc. [yes, debates favor the most charismatic, which isn't good for thoughtful organized but more wallflower personality types, but that's also part of the general playing field]. Campus debates of course were typically rowdy if touching on anything useful, but still, there was an expectation that both sides would talk, basic principles would be espoused before the shoutdown began. Sully's a bit unrealistic in expecting a fair food fight (has he not seen the papers in 10 years; has he not seen Jon Stewart in 10 years?), but yes, it would be nice if moderators could hold off a slight bit with their smugness and editorializing while participants present. Too many electric 3rd rails of wokeness or conservatism that can't be dug into a bit - remembering how the difference between $12 and $15 became sacrosanct, if you didn't go for the higher you were evil (7 years later it's still at $7.25/hr - really important issue to obsess over). I'm amazed that the far left thinks state-sponsored indoctrination of kids on sexual preferences or anything is actually important - aside from preventing bullying, aren't there academic topics they should be learning to be able to do those $7.25 jobs? We can't even manage vaccines for schoolage kids anymore, a big step backwards. [I'm still wondering what math taught in K-8 we think is so important to the 90% who won't use more than basic logic and multiply/divide (and calculators that will do everything else), vs. understanding concepts & events of history, psychology, sociology, interpersonal/cultural communications, team building and project management, sales & marketing, physical well-being - i.e. exercise, basics of health & nutrition, simple biology and chemistry and physics, digital systems, design/aesthetics/art in society, and then argumentation/rhetoric/fake news vs. valid trains of thought, familiarity with valid references vs. unsupported assertions and random anecdotes... legal/civics/government including some basics of the Constitution and how citizens should participate, maybe some Wikipedia-like dashboards that everyone can go to keep a reality check on how fast things are changing in many ways, as well as gaps around the world so we have a bit of baseline.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 04/03/2022 - 3:03am
the other five guys showed up, so hardly a huge trend:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/11/2022 - 12:51pm
nationwide, things are not looking good at this point for Democrats in the mid-terms; I've seen a lot of political types mentioning this poll analysis:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/11/2022 - 12:57pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/11/2022 - 1:05pm
this is a perfect example, today The Woke are attacking Tony Dungy for avidly participating in a DeSantis pro-fatherhood event! Do they have shit for brains? I imagine DeSantis just loves all the screeching, is exactly what he hoped they would do, another way for libruls to be labeled as anti-family, Democrats lose a few more votes. And for what? What do they gain? Did they want to promote families without fathers or what? There is not even anything to gain for LBGTQ activists here, they just end up looking intolerant of traditional families.
Oh boy. look who is ready and able to cancel Tony Dungy, as if his input would help:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/11/2022 - 6:54pm