"Defund police is a bad idea, not a bad slogan": Yglesias

By artappraiser on Mon, 12/07/2020 - 4:05pm |

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A bad idea, not a bad slogan https://t.co/lSmchOwnMO
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 7, 2020

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https://www.slowboring.com/p/defund-police-is-a-bad-idea-not-a

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Josh Marshall replying to his tweet of the article and Yglesias' reply

As we know people mean greatly different things by abolish or defund the police. But it's remarkable the degree to which many people do not realize that actually getting rid of police forces is a shocking and completely unsupportable idea to the vast majority of the country.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) December 7, 2020

Yes. And also as I detail in the piece, the specific Minneapolis activist group that channeled outrage about Floyd into “defund” as a mantra is clearly committed to abolitionism.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 7, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 12/07/2020 - 4:11pm

a reminder that Biden's position appears to be pretty much the same, though he hasn't really confronted the more radical BLM groups, he said police need more money, not less, so he's basically against the whole concept of "defund", straight out saying “I’m the only one who’s talked about increasing police budgets.”

BIDEN NBC TOWN HALL OCT. 5: QUESTION ON POLICING

by artappraiser on Mon, 12/07/2020 - 4:23pm

related thread from mid-August including Biden bashing from "progressives" for saying similar things

BIDEN SAID, ‘MOST COPS ARE GOOD.’ BUT PROGRESSIVES WANT SYSTEMIC CHANGE.

By artappraiser on Wed, 08/19/2020 - 9:41pm |

by artappraiser on Tue, 12/08/2020 - 5:15pm

Number of people shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2017-2020

Published by Statista Research Department, Nov 30, 2020

TAKE A QUICK LOOK at the graphic at the top, partly interactive so it's not easily pastable.

Posting a link here so I can easily find it. Clearly, the hysteria over this during this year has been just that, hysteria-temporary insanity, caused by seeing actually videos of death.

[edit 12/24/20 to correct faulty link; original comment was 12/09/2020 - 8:27pm]

by artappraiser on Thu, 12/24/2020 - 1:06pm

graph 1960-2020,

Police spending as a share of state & local government. pic.twitter.com/ltsZZ9zAzk
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) December 11, 2020

by artappraiser on Fri, 12/11/2020 - 1:46am

Yglesias retweeted this interpretation of his article:

Good read from @mattyglesias. The whole argument we’ve been having since the election misses the point—the goal of the sloganeers was police abolition, not electing Dems. It crowded out every other slogan and less radical ideas got backfilled into it.https://t.co/OkmEdXiwBi
— Tynan (@TynanPants) December 10, 2020

by artappraiser on Fri, 12/11/2020 - 1:54am

Well if you want to know why DC doesn't think the best response to this is a social worker and why the city mostly passed over the defund the police stuff https://t.co/YHyy1Pdda4
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 12, 2020

(The only defund DC did was to shift some school police officer contracts to third party security, which, who knows if that's an improvement) https://t.co/nI3jr29cYj
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 12, 2020

edit to add end tweet on thread that I missed

Police got there within two minutes and arrested six people without hurting anybody. That's a pretty professional police force. Why would DC want to defund it? https://t.co/4aaOKSlOeG
— Zaid Jilani (@ZaidJilani) December 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Sat, 12/12/2020 - 5:25am

Black ministers’ message in South Dallas: We need our police | Editorial https://t.co/gNEbDMeZma
— Dallas Morning News (@dallasnews) December 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Sun, 12/13/2020 - 1:18pm

"Defund police is a bad idea, not a bad slogan": Yglesias

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