The #MuellerReport gives Congress multiple avenues of investigation to pursue. The open question is whether the Congress will have the stomach to peruse the 10 instances of potential obstruction of justice laid bare in the redacted report. https://t.co/DLhpvZYfZ0
Former WH counsel John Dean: “I looked on my shelf for the Senate Watergate Committee report, I looked at the Iran Contra report. I also looked at the Ken Starr report … In 400 words, this report from the special counsel is more damning than all those reports about a President." pic.twitter.com/9WuUaicKvt
Aargh, look at CNN's fucking chyron - Mueller explicitly says "collusion" has no legal definition, so wasn't pursued as such, but yes, there was tons of "collusion" by normal definitions.
The MSM keeps giving Yrump victory laps with this crap - he just cherry picks these mistaken gleeful exonerations and runs with it, and the 42% follow. It's a continual mixed muddled message no matter how they try.
The "muddling" is Mueller's and they, after all, are reporting on the Mueller report. You'd like them to have a bigger political agenda of getting the public outraged about all the things Trump did. Today they don't, they are instead reporting what's in the Mueller report, the news of the day and I'm fine with that. Mueller did say that collusion not a legal charge. Mueller may or may not have intended to get the public outraged. What Mueller intended to happen will have to wait for reading into his gestures and tone of voice when he testifies. For now, I like the media educating on the legal situation and thereby being able to defend themselves later as not being partisan by doing so.
Edit to add: an hour or so ago, I saw Chris Cuomo interview Jay Sekulow on the "no collusion" issue and debate the legal issues involved respectfully. I thought that was a very good thing for CNN to do.
It's been over 2 years now. We know the term "collusion" has no legal definition, as Mueller carefully explained, and we knew 2 years before, so debating whether any collusion or jabberwocks were found takes away from the conspiracy and obstruction that *was* found and to what degree.
We keep playing on their turf. Hey, Trump did not collude with Russian government officials! (which no one evr accused him of ever)
This is part of how they get away with their incrementalism. Fortunately there seems to be enough smack this time to lather him with, but we're never sure - what's the Barr? It's not "legal" as Mueller noted in Trump's caseanger - it's whether it's appropriate to charge the executive based on Constitution or referred to/dealt with by House impeachment committee.
Happy to have MSM present legal angles if they don't completely fuck it up *from a legal definition standpoint*, which of course has knock-on effects in the political arena. Letting Giuliani ramble on and say whatever he wants with no legal basis does not help.
450/ On pg. 199, Mueller gives a *big* list of (it seems) Trumpworld personalities—all names/info redacted—who at *some* point lied to Mueller but then came clean, or cooperated, or for some other reason escaped punishment. You and I should be so lucky—if we ever acted like that.
At the August 2 meeting Manafort & Kilimnik reviewed swing states, went over internal polling data, discussed a Ukrainian peace plan, and talked abt getting paid. 8 days later he told his accountant to book the revenue from the Ukr oligarchs. pic.twitter.com/DbmO2CAf3Q
Would be very good for CNN to ask Sekulow why DoJ is briefing Trump's *personal* attorney before Congress has access, rather than the official *White House* attorney, rather than proceeding as if this were all normal and Sekulow has first cut at the Mueller Report redactions and rebttal and now gets to go on TV and ezplain his case as if this were all normal.
Lawfare does a good rundown that doesn't require "tone of voice" (Mueller doesn't come across as subtle and vague - he seems exacting, on himself and others):
10 or 12 experrs weigh in on Politico. Doesn't look good for Trump, though some suggest Mueller was being too fragile not coming down with an opinion on obstruction (because he couldn't charge Trump with it, so it wouldn't be fair)
From Mueller Vol 1: "Like collusion, 'coordination' does not have a settled definition in federal criminal law. We understood coordination to require an agreement-tacit or express-between the Trump Campaign and the
Russian government on election interference...." 1
New from me: After working to help Trump win, Putin wanted to cash in. So he encouraged his oligarchs to make contact with Trump’s transition team about sanctions, and it worked—One document drafted by Dmitriev made its way to Rex Tillerson via Kushner. https://t.co/o9Ul53UiGb
Oped by George T. Conway III @ WashingtonPost.com, April 18 8:09 pm
George T. Conway III is a lawyer in New York.
So it turns out that, indeed, President Trump was not exonerated at all, and certainly not “totally” or “completely,” as he claimed. Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III didn’t reach a conclusion about whether Trump committed crimes of obstruction of justice — in part because, while a sitting president, Trump can’t be prosecuted under long-standing Justice Department directives, and in part because of “difficult issues” raised by “the President’s actions and intent.” Those difficult issues involve, among other things, the potentially tricky interplay between the criminal obstruction laws and the president’s constitutional authority, and the difficulty in proving criminal intent beyond a reasonable doubt.
Still, the special counsel’s report is damning. Mueller couldn’t say, with any “confidence,” that the president of the United States is not a criminal. He said, stunningly, that “if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state.” Mueller did not so state.
That’s especially damning because the ultimate issue shouldn’t be — and isn’t — whether the president committed a criminal act. As I wrote not long ago, Americans should expect far more than merely that their president not be provably a criminal. In fact, the Constitution demands it [....]
For those who don't know, George is more than "a lawyer in New York", a selection from wikipedia:
Conway had been considered a candidate for some U.S. Department of Justice posts. In January 2017, Conway was considered for the post of Solicitor Generalalong with Gregory G. Katsas, prior to the post going to Noel Francisco.[8][9][10] On March 17, 2017, Conway was reported to be the nominee as Assistant Attorney General to head the Civil Division at the U.S. Department of Justice.[11][12][13] However, on June 2, 2017, he announced that he declined to pursue the post.[14][15] On November 16, 2018, Conway stated that a reason he did not join the Trump administration is because it is “like a shitshow in a dumpster fire.”[16]
Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr apparently supplied the White House counsel’s office with information about the Russia probe.
By Burgess Everett and Marianne Levine @ Politico.com, Updated 04/18/2019 04:52 PM EDT
The Senate GOP found itself ensnared in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report Thursday, with new revelations about Sen. Richard Burr's communications with the White House and details about a GOP aide’s quest to obtain Hillary Clinton‘s emails.
Though the vast majority of the report centered on Russian influence in the 2016 election and President Donald Trump’s apparent efforts to undercut Mueller’s probe, the report also offers a window into how the broad investigations have touched on individual senators and even a relatively unknown congressional staffer. It also shows how eager the White House was for insight into the series of federal probes that were launched early in Trump’s presidency [....]
Max Boot @ WaPo: "reads like an impeachment referral"
Trump told his deputy campaign manager “that more releases of damaging information would be coming” — but he didn’t tell the FBI. In short, Trump acted unpatriotically, if not illegally, by eagerly accept Russian help to win. My @PostOpinions column: https://t.co/oXE63EEyDZ
Here's a new ad from Republicans for the Rule of Law--"Obstruction of Justice" -- up on social media now and on television this weekend. pic.twitter.com/mssGzLqgzH
Nate Silver's two-sentence declarative on the impeachment question:
Voters did not elect Democrats to Congress in order to impeach Trump. Democrats largely did not run on impeachment, and midterm voters rated Russia as one of the least important issues. https://t.co/aTAN73eKzt
Mark Penn made like $10-15 million off Hillary's campaign in 2008 but burned his career to the ground as rather a last-gen incompetent.
His remake as a Republican apologist has been amusing or scary to watch - though it resembles enough
other people - Dershowitz being a kind of odd one - not sure what's in it for him.
Yes, it's a quandary, as one big reason we're in such a mess is that voters seem to not care about some things that are of dire importance to the country - daily activity that's gutting important rights and basic functioning of government.
If the Democrats take a pass on impeachment, how exactly are they going to survive until November 2020? health care? $15 minimum wage? We saw how callous Republicans were to the appearance of voting irregularities in Georgia, where the candidate refused to recuse his voting position - we saw how shameless they are towards lying & trying to bury the Mueller report (and the remaining intelligence info that's not even there).
Unless House Democrats manage to fight back effectively against Trump, there won't be fair election whatever the masses of voters want. How well is the DoJ going to investigate voting irregularities if it goes the Republicans' way? A difference of 80,000 votes in 3 states in 2016 couldn't even trigger a recount. Now Trump boasts 99% of his $30 million campaign contributions are <$200 - now ain't that convenient - that means 99% of his contributions are untraceable by FEC rules - tell me a more propitious, fortuitous development - any of those donations from Boris & Ivan & Sergei & Vladimir & Oleg? well, we simply don't - and can't - know.
So yeah, Democrats have to do both bread *and* circuses, chew gum *and* walk.
" I do not understand it. I would not have believed that such things could happen on our farm. It must be due to some fault in ourselves. The solution, as I see it, is to work harder. From now onwards I shall get up a full hour earlier in the mornings." - Boxer
BTW - i'm no longer worried about Pence as president - if Trump is removed, Pence will be hobbled plus he's not a tenth of the puppet master demagogue that Trump is, plus we're talking less than 18 months before an election, more realistically much less (if even successful in the Senate) - but still, a principled, professional well-marketed by-the-book impeachment effort highlighting all the malfeasance should be a boon - if takng care of needed business at the same time. The British model of getting bogged down in Brexit at the expense of all else is not a winner.
He's just now getting started after all. He had the unfortunate luck of announcing candidacy on CNN minutes before the Notre Dame fire started ramping up.
Aside: Interesting Ronan Farrow & Maggie Haberman twitter exchange, mea culpas on Mitt on Russia:
I’ll join this mea culpa. I aired interviews with Romney where I completely failed to grasp how prescient he was being about Russia. https://t.co/LVXewv2pOP
Butina's GOP infiltration "immense" benefit to Moscow. So who are thhose compromised Republicans, and what was the benefit?
In late sentencing filing, prosecutors say Maria BUTINA should get 18 months for providing information of "immense" value to Russia about how to access high level Republican officials. pic.twitter.com/K5qSt2Fzh2
Now she's got all the polls the Nate does and more as someone already running a campaign. And she's a real smart cookie at reading and analyzing stats, especially on what the "middle class" wants. I think what most see as her downsides is not a situation that she doesn't understand people and trends, I suspect she does; I think her only problem on that front is communication and emotional connecting, i.e., charisma. And she is driven by greater good/common good principles. She would not call for this unless she genuinely thought the risk was good that the Dems could weather it and come out well in the short term as well as the long term.
More from Nate Silver, on feedback on what he said:
Basically your view on this should come down to whether you prefer a more lower-case-d democratic or a more lower-case-r republican system of government. There are a lot of Democrats in the responses advocating for republicanism. https://t.co/hpQiXXeHgb
How about impeach the son of a bitch in a *professional* way, and if the people are unhappy with that they can vote him back in?
Republicans shattered government in 2001-2003 and 2008, and somehow Democrats got left holding the bag and doing cleanup, rather than building to the future. Now it's happening again, including Republicans stacking the courts with incompetent ideologues who'll be there for decades and crooked alliances with Russia, Saudi, China. I don't have faith in America's fact awareness challenged environment to think most understand 1/10th the travesty going on. But for Nate, just let it drag on 21 months without action, more "national emergencies" proclaimed to override the constitution and checks & balances, affecting real facts like abortion laws, court sentencing, and corrupt government cronyist practices in the trillions, but what the hey, it's only government.
There was a Heritage piece going around bemoaning how little Americans understand civics and constitutional processes. Rather plays into the GOP typical game plan.
FWIW, intereresting that Silver is still sticking to his guns, not buying any counterpoints:
Trump has been screaming these talking points for a year and they haven't moved public opinion in his favor. He's convinced his base and no one else. Even the Barr letter, which the mainstream media treated as quite favorable for Trump, didn't really swing public opinion. https://t.co/aj1XGpbDem
Trump has a 41.6% approval rating in a very good economy. That's a LOT lower than you'd expect given the underlying conditions. Republicans just lost 40 House seats. Voters *do* care about all the extracurricular stuff.
I'm wary of the implication that the public can't be trusted to think for itself and weigh the Mueller Report along with all the other reasons they might vote for or against Trump. In a democracy, the main mechanism for holding people accountable is elections.
Still doesn't explain the big smooch Mueller gave Trump's family. "Didn't know they were breaking the law" was a pretty bizarre "stay out of jail free" card - maybe the actress buying fake qualifications for her daughter to go to USC didn't know either. Let me go back through high profile cases to see where else that works - for quasi-hovernment servants, college-educated rich folks and dirt poor near-illiterates... (considering how many times they were told things were illegal and against government practice, yet they did it anyway... hard to stomach)
Reinforces what I wrote a few minutes ago. Democrats should just do their job - impeachment & repairing the damage, forward-looking policies & legislation, improved messaging and awareness to keep this from happening again/counter the Fox-Sinclair & oft wishy-washy news environment.
I also agree that Trump's claim to be exonerated is a line in the sand, that if the Democrats let him play this card with impunity, there's nothing they can beg foe in the future that will give them any leverage to complain - they will be fucked. Overton's Window has only so many iterations before it's an open invitation to all and everything, and the Dems will have consigned themselves to permanent weakness, unwilling to fight the real battles where America's future is being decided.
Somehow Sam Pecckinpah's "Straw Dogs" comes to mind - civilization vs primitive brutality. They come for your wife and house, cinversation reason and persuasion won't do the trick.
And file under big picture "Russians going for chaos in the U.S." Especially the section labeled "Turning to Trump", i.e., uncontrollable idiots can be useful at times depending on watcha want.
That in short is sort of the way I am leaning. Just because: mostly everything that happened makes more sense that way to me.
Not that Trump doesn't also have extreme amoral and scheming tendencies, he does, but those are sort of clueless and stumbling and meandering, just done according to whatever might benefit the narcissism narrative that day.
Look, it's all false delusional narrative with him, where the attacks on "fake news" are the ultimate projection of all his projections. Since a few successes early on in his youth, all of his businesses are actually big fails and then he's lied himself out of trouble, i.e., "everything Trump touches dies." He admires strong men because they appear to be able to create their own reality, to make their fantasies happen.
Another confirming thing just hit me with the point raised for the umpteenth time of: why do people stay and work for this abusive madman? Because they think they can be the one who can finally manipulate him to behavior to get him what they think he believes in and wants, they are mostly deluded themselves. Including Jvanka or many of those who accepted cabinet positions. Or they have Machiavellian tendencies, like the Russians, Manafort, Bannon, Stephen Miller, some self-serving cabinet officers, etc., thinking he is a useful idiot.
Some people made miney off Trump for decades. Not many, but some.
One factoid worth noting is something I foughton Twitter - nowaywas Putin *ever* going to give raving boisterous moron Trump a prime piece of real estate in Moscow. Trump the idiot thinks Putin worth billions would be attracted to a $50 million penthouse suite in a moron's tower, showing him beholden to the fucktard? A whacko premise - but one no one from Trump HQ seemed to realize.
Marcy notes much of the Steele Dossier disinfo - Steele no doubt would agree. Cohen in Prague wasa dangle of deza intended as aa honeypotof distraction - disprove that and everything else falls.
I still disagree with Marcy about Alfa/Spectrum data feeds - I think that's how they coordinated stealing WI/MI/PA - the voter data Russians stole was put to good use - discard X% in Democratic-leaning precincts and you control the story, though 80,000 is too close for just ballpark - they had it down to totals. Putin doesn't play "close as in horseshoes and hand grenades", I'm sure. I suspect Crimea and naval base in Azov Sea were his goal in Ukraine all along - he knew days in Ukraine were numbere all along and doesnt give a shit about a decaying Russian population in Donbas. Ukrainian membership in EU/NATO? Yeah, that's a big deal.
Manafort leaks poll data to Kilimnik despite danger - discusses MI/WI/PA *way* early (along with Minnesota, which Hillary only won by 45,000 votes. So how did Kilimnik and GRU steal these states?
From Paul Rosenzweig @ Lawfare on Barr. (He seems to be a conservative, based on this googling by me: he was @ Homeland Security under Bush and did a stint @ Heritage and Washington Examiner published op-eds):
“Is this just poor lawyering or something ... different?”
Paul Rosenzweig asks this uncomfortable question repeatedly about Attorney General Barr’s actions in recent weeks. Read the full article here:
Comments
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 7:40pm
Aargh, look at CNN's fucking chyron - Mueller explicitly says "collusion" has no legal definition, so wasn't pursued as such, but yes, there was tons of "collusion" by normal definitions.
The MSM keeps giving Yrump victory laps with this crap - he just cherry picks these mistaken gleeful exonerations and runs with it, and the 42% follow. It's a continual mixed muddled message no matter how they try.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 12:41am
The "muddling" is Mueller's and they, after all, are reporting on the Mueller report. You'd like them to have a bigger political agenda of getting the public outraged about all the things Trump did. Today they don't, they are instead reporting what's in the Mueller report, the news of the day and I'm fine with that. Mueller did say that collusion not a legal charge. Mueller may or may not have intended to get the public outraged. What Mueller intended to happen will have to wait for reading into his gestures and tone of voice when he testifies. For now, I like the media educating on the legal situation and thereby being able to defend themselves later as not being partisan by doing so.
Edit to add: an hour or so ago, I saw Chris Cuomo interview Jay Sekulow on the "no collusion" issue and debate the legal issues involved respectfully. I thought that was a very good thing for CNN to do.
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 12:55am
It's been over 2 years now. We know the term "collusion" has no legal definition, as Mueller carefully explained, and we knew 2 years before, so debating whether any collusion or jabberwocks were found takes away from the conspiracy and obstruction that *was* found and to what degree.
We keep playing on their turf. Hey, Trump did not collude with Russian government officials! (which no one evr accused him of ever)
This is part of how they get away with their incrementalism. Fortunately there seems to be enough smack this time to lather him with, but we're never sure - what's the Barr? It's not "legal" as Mueller noted in Trump's caseanger - it's whether it's appropriate to charge the executive based on Constitution or referred to/dealt with by House impeachment committee.
Happy to have MSM present legal angles if they don't completely fuck it up *from a legal definition standpoint*, which of course has knock-on effects in the political arena. Letting Giuliani ramble on and say whatever he wants with no legal basis does not help.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 1:17am
Here's Seth breaking it down:
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 4:47am
Marcy's is less a monster thread:
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 4:58am
Would be very good for CNN to ask Sekulow why DoJ is briefing Trump's *personal* attorney before Congress has access, rather than the official *White House* attorney, rather than proceeding as if this were all normal and Sekulow has first cut at the Mueller Report redactions and rebttal and now gets to go on TV and ezplain his case as if this were all normal.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 5:02am
Lawfare does a good rundown that doesn't require "tone of voice" (Mueller doesn't come across as subtle and vague - he seems exacting, on himself and others):
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-mueller-found-russia-and-obstruction-fi...
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 12:30pm
10 or 12 experrs weigh in on Politico. Doesn't look good for Trump, though some suggest Mueller was being too fragile not coming down with an opinion on obstruction (because he couldn't charge Trump with it, so it wouldn't be fair)
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/19/mueller-report-analys...
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 12:52pm
Big picture quotes from:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 7:59pm
Can't access WSJ posting because maybe someone else can. He does include a picture in the tweet:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:04pm
WaPo's print front page for the morning:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:07pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 12:38am
with extra section:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 12:43am
Natasha Bertrand:
and Newsweek points out same thing:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:16pm
Kellyanne's hubby says: IMPEACH!
George Conway: Trump is a cancer on the presidency. Congress should remove him.
Oped by George T. Conway III @ WashingtonPost.com, April 18 8:09 pm
George T. Conway III is a lawyer in New York.
For those who don't know, George is more than "a lawyer in New York", a selection from wikipedia:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:25pm
Mueller report ropes in Senate GOP
Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr apparently supplied the White House counsel’s office with information about the Russia probe.
By Burgess Everett and Marianne Levine @ Politico.com, Updated 04/18/2019 04:52 PM EDT
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 10:29pm
Reps. Rashida Tlaib & Al Green on #TimetoImpeach:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 1:01am
Max Boot @ WaPo: "reads like an impeachment referral"
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 1:04am
Lawfare "first analysis" is out after tweeting earlier in the evening that they would take some time to comment:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 1:54am
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 2:34am
CNN not going all namby pamby on Mueller report messaging:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 1:50pm
Nate Silver's two-sentence declarative on the impeachment question:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 3:37pm
Mark Penn obviously looking at the similar stats: Mueller's done, and Dems should be too — because Trump is no Nixon, op-ed @ TheHill.com - 04/19/19 10:15 AM EDT.
and this plea made me think the Chairman here might be thinking about the same, but with a different plan: Elijah Cummings: 'I am begging the American people to pay attention to what's going on' @ TheHill.com - 04/19/19 09:26 AM EDT.
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 3:36pm
Mark Penn made like $10-15 million off Hillary's campaign in 2008 but burned his career to the ground as rather a last-gen incompetent.
His remake as a Republican apologist has been amusing or scary to watch - though it resembles enough
other people - Dershowitz being a kind of odd one - not sure what's in it for him.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 4:48pm
Yes, it's a quandary, as one big reason we're in such a mess is that voters seem to not care about some things that are of dire importance to the country - daily activity that's gutting important rights and basic functioning of government.
If the Democrats take a pass on impeachment, how exactly are they going to survive until November 2020? health care? $15 minimum wage? We saw how callous Republicans were to the appearance of voting irregularities in Georgia, where the candidate refused to recuse his voting position - we saw how shameless they are towards lying & trying to bury the Mueller report (and the remaining intelligence info that's not even there).
Unless House Democrats manage to fight back effectively against Trump, there won't be fair election whatever the masses of voters want. How well is the DoJ going to investigate voting irregularities if it goes the Republicans' way? A difference of 80,000 votes in 3 states in 2016 couldn't even trigger a recount. Now Trump boasts 99% of his $30 million campaign contributions are <$200 - now ain't that convenient - that means 99% of his contributions are untraceable by FEC rules - tell me a more propitious, fortuitous development - any of those donations from Boris & Ivan & Sergei & Vladimir & Oleg? well, we simply don't - and can't - know.
So yeah, Democrats have to do both bread *and* circuses, chew gum *and* walk.
" I do not understand it. I would not have believed that such things could happen on our farm. It must be due to some fault in ourselves. The solution, as I see it, is to work harder. From now onwards I shall get up a full hour earlier in the mornings." - Boxer
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 5:05pm
BTW - i'm no longer worried about Pence as president - if Trump is removed, Pence will be hobbled plus he's not a tenth of the puppet master demagogue that Trump is, plus we're talking less than 18 months before an election, more realistically much less (if even successful in the Senate) - but still, a principled, professional well-marketed by-the-book impeachment effort highlighting all the malfeasance should be a boon - if takng care of needed business at the same time. The British model of getting bogged down in Brexit at the expense of all else is not a winner.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 5:29pm
Help from surprise reinforcements?
GOP primary challenger Weld: Trump is a 'one-man crime wave'
@ TheHill.com - 04/19/19 05:41 PM EDT
He's just now getting started after all. He had the unfortunate luck of announcing candidacy on CNN minutes before the Notre Dame fire started ramping up.
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 6:06pm
And is Mitt sickened enough to be willing to vote "remove", not to mention endorse Weld?
Romney 'sickened' by Trump's behavior in Mueller report @ - 04/19/19 03:49 PM EDT
(
Pence in the meantime would be right up Mitt's alley.)
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 6:11pm
Aside: Interesting Ronan Farrow & Maggie Haberman twitter exchange, mea culpas on Mitt on Russia:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 11:24pm
Huckabee trolls Mitt's tweeted statement:
Getting to be like a GOP ex-governor food fight....
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 1:29am
Trump sniping back at Mitt:
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 9:06pm
Butina's GOP infiltration "immense" benefit to Moscow. So who are thhose compromised Republicans, and what was the benefit?
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 3:10am
WOW kinda news! Warren calls for House to begin impeachment proceedings
@ TheHill.com - 04/19/19 04:13 PM EDT
Now she's got all the polls the Nate does and more as someone already running a campaign. And she's a real smart cookie at reading and analyzing stats, especially on what the "middle class" wants. I think what most see as her downsides is not a situation that she doesn't understand people and trends, I suspect she does; I think her only problem on that front is communication and emotional connecting, i.e., charisma. And she is driven by greater good/common good principles. She would not call for this unless she genuinely thought the risk was good that the Dems could weather it and come out well in the short term as well as the long term.
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 6:23pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 8:58pm
More from Nate Silver, on feedback on what he said:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 9:52pm
How about impeach the son of a bitch in a *professional* way, and if the people are unhappy with that they can vote him back in?
Republicans shattered government in 2001-2003 and 2008, and somehow Democrats got left holding the bag and doing cleanup, rather than building to the future. Now it's happening again, including Republicans stacking the courts with incompetent ideologues who'll be there for decades and crooked alliances with Russia, Saudi, China. I don't have faith in America's fact awareness challenged environment to think most understand 1/10th the travesty going on. But for Nate, just let it drag on 21 months without action, more "national emergencies" proclaimed to override the constitution and checks & balances, affecting real facts like abortion laws, court sentencing, and corrupt government cronyist practices in the trillions, but what the hey, it's only government.
There was a Heritage piece going around bemoaning how little Americans understand civics and constitutional processes. Rather plays into the GOP typical game plan.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 11:29pm
FWIW, intereresting that Silver is still sticking to his guns, not buying any counterpoints:
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 8:45pm
Eric Holder via Glenn Kirschner:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 9:50pm
Still doesn't explain the big smooch Mueller gave Trump's family. "Didn't know they were breaking the law" was a pretty bizarre "stay out of jail free" card - maybe the actress buying fake qualifications for her daughter to go to USC didn't know either. Let me go back through high profile cases to see where else that works - for quasi-hovernment servants, college-educated rich folks and dirt poor near-illiterates... (considering how many times they were told things were illegal and against government practice, yet they did it anyway... hard to stomach)
https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/trouble-with-robert-mueller/17446/
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 11:39pm
a comparative history reminder:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 10:03pm
Reinforces what I wrote a few minutes ago. Democrats should just do their job - impeachment & repairing the damage, forward-looking policies & legislation, improved messaging and awareness to keep this from happening again/counter the Fox-Sinclair & oft wishy-washy news environment.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 04/19/2019 - 11:43pm
I also agree that Trump's claim to be exonerated is a line in the sand, that if the Democrats let him play this card with impunity, there's nothing they can beg foe in the future that will give them any leverage to complain - they will be fucked. Overton's Window has only so many iterations before it's an open invitation to all and everything, and the Dems will have consigned themselves to permanent weakness, unwilling to fight the real battles where America's future is being decided.
Somehow Sam Pecckinpah's "Straw Dogs" comes to mind - civilization vs primitive brutality. They come for your wife and house, cinversation reason and persuasion won't do the trick.
https://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2019/04/walking-and-chewing-gum-simultan...
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 3:21am
Spy thinking as opposed to lawyer thinking:
And file under big picture "Russians going for chaos in the U.S." Especially the section labeled "Turning to Trump", i.e., uncontrollable idiots can be useful at times depending on watcha want.
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 8:54pm
Trump:Very Useful Idiot
Manafort: Colluder-in-Chief
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 04/21/2019 - 12:50am
That in short is sort of the way I am leaning. Just because: mostly everything that happened makes more sense that way to me.
Not that Trump doesn't also have extreme amoral and scheming tendencies, he does, but those are sort of clueless and stumbling and meandering, just done according to whatever might benefit the narcissism narrative that day.
Look, it's all false delusional narrative with him, where the attacks on "fake news" are the ultimate projection of all his projections. Since a few successes early on in his youth, all of his businesses are actually big fails and then he's lied himself out of trouble, i.e., "everything Trump touches dies." He admires strong men because they appear to be able to create their own reality, to make their fantasies happen.
Another confirming thing just hit me with the point raised for the umpteenth time of: why do people stay and work for this abusive madman? Because they think they can be the one who can finally manipulate him to behavior to get him what they think he believes in and wants, they are mostly deluded themselves. Including Jvanka or many of those who accepted cabinet positions. Or they have Machiavellian tendencies, like the Russians, Manafort, Bannon, Stephen Miller, some self-serving cabinet officers, etc., thinking he is a useful idiot.
by artappraiser on Sun, 04/21/2019 - 1:48am
Some people made miney off Trump for decades. Not many, but some.
One factoid worth noting is something I foughton Twitter - nowaywas Putin *ever* going to give raving boisterous moron Trump a prime piece of real estate in Moscow. Trump the idiot thinks Putin worth billions would be attracted to a $50 million penthouse suite in a moron's tower, showing him beholden to the fucktard? A whacko premise - but one no one from Trump HQ seemed to realize.
Marcy notes much of the Steele Dossier disinfo - Steele no doubt would agree. Cohen in Prague wasa dangle of deza intended as aa honeypotof distraction - disprove that and everything else falls.
I still disagree with Marcy about Alfa/Spectrum data feeds - I think that's how they coordinated stealing WI/MI/PA - the voter data Russians stole was put to good use - discard X% in Democratic-leaning precincts and you control the story, though 80,000 is too close for just ballpark - they had it down to totals. Putin doesn't play "close as in horseshoes and hand grenades", I'm sure. I suspect Crimea and naval base in Azov Sea were his goal in Ukraine all along - he knew days in Ukraine were numbere all along and doesnt give a shit about a decaying Russian population in Donbas. Ukrainian membership in EU/NATO? Yeah, that's a big deal.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 04/21/2019 - 3:26am
Manafort leaks poll data to Kilimnik despite danger - discusses MI/WI/PA *way* early (along with Minnesota, which Hillary only won by 45,000 votes. So how did Kilimnik and GRU steal these states?
https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/04/29/paul-manafort-violated-campaign-po...
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 04/29/2019 - 6:02pm
I'd like to point out that, as Barbara and Laura Bush used to say, being able to read is fundamental:
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/20/2019 - 9:08pm
From Paul Rosenzweig @ Lawfare on Barr. (He seems to be a conservative, based on this googling by me: he was @ Homeland Security under Bush and did a stint @ Heritage and Washington Examiner published op-eds):
by artappraiser on Sun, 04/21/2019 - 8:56pm