A @MNNationalGuard and @MinneapolisPD neighborhood security team was fired upon early Sunday morning in a drive-by shooting near Penn Avenue and Broadway in Minneapolis.
The shooting occurred on or about 4:19 a.m., as a light-colored SUV fired several shots at an @MinnesotaOSN security team providing neighborhood security. No team members were seriously injured.
Two @MNNationalGuard members did sustain minor injuries from the incident. One Guardsman sustained an injury from shattered glass requiring additional care and was taken to a local hospital to receive treatment. The other Guardsman received only superficial injuries.
"I am relieved to know none of our Guardsmen were seriously injured," said Maj. Gen. Shawn Manke, the Adjutant General of the @MNNationalGuard. "This event highlights the volatility and tension in our communities right now. I ask for peace as we work through this difficult time."
Court records show the man fatally shot by police in Lents Park on Friday morning was camping on the streets of East Portland, where he regularly interacted with police. https://t.co/jm3ce5Aova
In response to another police killing of an individual in mental distress in Portland, we're going to hear calls for accountability, oversight, analysis.
I think it's important to remember that all of these things are already in place in Portland. A refresher:
Fellow area free-lance journalist Justin Yau was physically attacked earlier Friday by a protestor or protestors who did not want any publicity showing their identity or actions. (A reminder that would not be the typical modus operandi of a peaceful protestor, peaceful protestors want publicity.)
@ sanfrancisco.cbslocal. com, April 18, 2021 at 8:46 am, VIDEO & PHOTO AT LINK
SANTA ROSA (CBS SF) — The former Santa Rosa home of Barry Brodd, who testified as a defense witness in the Derrick Chauvin murder trial, was smeared with pig’s blood and had a severed pig’s head dumped on the front porch in an early Saturday morning vandalism attack.
Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer, is currently on trial facing murder charges in the death of George Floyd.
Santa Rosa police said officers responded at 3:07 a.m. to a residence in a west Santa Rosa neighborhood that had just been vandalized.
The vandalism to the victim’s house exceeded $400 making the crime committed by the suspects a felony vandalism.
Investigators believe the vandals thought that Brodd — a former Santa Rosa police officer — still lived at the residence, but he has been a Santa Rosa resident for a number of years.
“Because Mr. Brodd no longer lives in the city of Santa Rosa, it appears the victim was falsely targeted,” police said in a news release.
Approximately 45 minutes later, a large hand statue in front of the Santa Rosa Plaza mall was vandalized with a similar substance, suspected to be animal blood.
The suspects also left a sign in front of the statue which had a picture of a pig and read “Oink Oink.” They were seen fleeing the area and matched the descriptions of the suspects who vandalized the house.
Anyone who witnessed the incident or has information that would assist with the investigation is encouraged to contact SRPD through our online Tip Line: http://www.srcity.org/CrimeTips.
You can see them at work in Oakland this weekend in this local CBS video report. They are wearing black., look like a a squad of an army and are very actively smashing windows with hammers, and then shortly thereafter they interview a black lady who says that they all seemed to be white people
OAKLAND (KPIX) — Among the businesses facing a significant cleanup on Saturday in downtown Oakland were several car dealerships, a Target store and a number of businesses on Broadway. For months, downtown Oakland has been a fortress of boarded-up buildings. Those that were not protected on Friday night were vulnerable when the vandalism started.
“Fireworks,” said Judith, who lives nearby. Then I heard a couple things that sounded like those sound booms, you know? [....]
“Don’t you dare start this s***” A man briefly tried taming the line of umbrellas, standing between them and police and discouraging agitation of the police #BrooklynCenterpic.twitter.com/V0qNdrqpyV
by Liz Burch @ KOIN.com (local CBS station) Updated: Apr 15, 2021 / 02:26 PM PDT
PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — An informant’s tip led to the arrest of a 19-year-old on arson charges in connection with the fiery riot at the Portland police union building on Tuesday night, according to court documents.
Raven-Guido faces two counts of riot, with one connected to an unlawful assembly in August 2020, and one count each of arson in the second degree and criminal mischief in the first degree. Raven-Guido was released Wednesday by the court, according to the Multnomah County district attorney’s office.
The tipster “observed the defendant pour a flammable liquid on the building from three plastic bottles,” according to the affidavit.
When Raven-Guido was allegedly “pouring the liquid on the fire and causing the fire to grow, one of the bottles caught on fire and started to melt,” the informant reportedly told police. The informant allegedly then saw Raven-Guido put the bottles back in a backpack, and then tipped off police, resulting in Raven-Guido’s arrest.
Authorities say they estimate damages to the building to be more than $25,000 [....]
Edit to add, Mayor of Portland on the "self-described anarchists" on April 14, including reference to the above:
Mayor Ted Wheeler delivered a lengthy statement regarding the protests at the start of today's City Council meeting. See below. Will also include comments from other local electeds, if and when they come in. pic.twitter.com/Gkeo57Ph4w
Ignore the clickbait subtitle of this otherwise accurate analysis of the disaster unfolding in Portland. I wrote the piece. The subtitle surprised me—plays right into the hands of those who will cry foul.
thanks! much better then a lot of stuff on my Humanities thread, with a lot of nuance well-translated for outsiders about working in academia in general
KSTP, local ABC tv channel Updated: April 19, 2021 07:25 PM
Photo: Courtesy of Minnesota National Guard. This image shows a bullet hole in a National Guard vehicle after shots were fired Sunday morning in north Minneapolis.A 28-year-old man has been arrested and charged following an incident over the weekend where National Guard members were shot at in Minneapolis.
According to a news release from the U.S. Attorney's Office, Andrew Thomas has been charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm.
A criminal complaint says at about 4:20 a.m. Sunday, a team of National Guard soldiers and a Minneapolis police officer had multiple shots fired at them near Penn Avenue North and West Broadway Avenue.
Later Sunday evening, police in the area of Sixth Street South and Cedar Avenue South located an SUV that matched the description to the suspect vehicle in the shooting.
After conducting a traffic stop, Thomas and a juvenile passenger were placed in separate police cars.
After receiving a warrant, officers later executed a search of the vehicle and found two firearms, ammunition and two cartridge casings, according to the complaint.
Thomas is unable to have a firearm due to a prior felony, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office.
Acting United States Attorney W. Anders Folk today announced a federal criminal complaint charging ANDREW THOMAS, 28, with being a felon in possession of a firearm. THOMAS will make his initial appearance tomorrow before Magistrate Judge Katherine M. Menendez in U.S. District Court.
According to the allegations in the criminal complaint, during the early morning hours of April 18, 2021, a team of Minnesota National Guard soldiers, along with an officer of the Minneapolis Police Department, was stationed at the corner of Penn Avenue North and West Broadway Avenue in Minneapolis. At approximately 4:20 a.m., a light-colored SUV driving on West Broadway Avenue fired multiple shots at the team. One bullet went through the windshield of the team’s military vehicle, which held four soldiers. Two soldiers of the Minnesota National Guard sustained minor injuries: one was transported to a nearby hospital for treatment of injuries from shattered glass; the other was treated at the scene for superficial wounds.
The criminal complaint also alleges that during the late evening hours of April 18, 2021, Minneapolis Police officers patrolling the area of 6th Street South and Cedar Avenue South encountered a 2002 Ford Explorer that matched the description of the SUV involved in the shooting. After conducting a felony stop of the vehicle, the driver, later identified as THOMAS, and a juvenile passenger, were placed in separate police cars. After obtaining a search warrant for the vehicle, officers recovered from the vehicle a Springfield Armory XD-9 9mm semi-automatic pistol, a .22 caliber revolver with an obliterated serial number, ammunition, and two discharged cartridge casings. Because THOMAS has a prior felony conviction in Hennepin County, he is prohibited under federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition at any time.
This case is the result of an investigation conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), and the Minneapolis Police Department.
This case is being prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Calhoun-Lopez.
The charges contained in the complaint are merely accusations, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.
and Thomas' record, 3rd-degree assault, served 18 mos. And that they thought an item in the glove compartment might be narcotics. And that one of the pistols had an obliterated serial number.
Has made his initial appearance in federal court and is currently being held in Sherburne County Jail; he's black, there's now this jail photo. He listed residence as Chicago, but the 3rd-degree assault conviction was from Minnesota in 2017:
ARREST/CHARGES: Andrew Thomas is charged with being a felon in possession of a firearm in connection to the shots fired at National Guard members in Minneapolis early Sunday morning in #Minneapolis.
On Vanderbilt now, organizers pause outside of Maya Taqueria to castigate the outdoor diners: “We don’t want you here,” they say. “We don’t want your fucking money. We don’t want your fucking taquerias.” Then on again, northward, in the street. “Fire! Fire to the gentrifiers!”
— Indigenous Anarchist Federation (@IAF__FAI) April 20, 2021
Mass social eruption forced the State to bring Chauvin to trial, because it knew to not do so would have been more costly. Their next move will be to take credit for "justice being served" + crush the social forces which made this moment possible in the 1st place. Don't let them. pic.twitter.com/TjbjARV6Jy
meantime, in NYC, the anarchists have a new segregationist agenda with specific roles depending upon skin color:
After protesters commandeered the traffic lanes of the Manhattan Bridge and reaching Canal Street in Chinatown, a leader on a megaphone invited Black protesters to assemble in the middle, with whites to the periphery... pic.twitter.com/yqVTVaCcbQ
...whites, the leader said, should be buffers between Black protesters and the police during forthcoming protests this summer, and the leader admonished white protesters for having insufficiently done so last year.
I think I can answer his question: they want to afflict the comfortable and they think that will comfort the afflicted while civilization tumbles into chaos so we can start a do over. As long as it doesn't hurt their parents who are still supporting them with food, shelter, clothing and cell phone service.
I see Jilani thinking along the same lines as me as far as the clueless liberal elite college kiddies at OSU:
Ohio State University students want the college to cut ties with Columbus Police. Considering the median family income at OSU is >$100k, you could definitely redistribute these police to protect non-rich people. https://t.co/f8rWurC0cX
They could, ya know, always go to a cheaper college and donate the savings in tuition funds to community service alternatives to policing in poor Columbus neighborhoods if they really believed it would help stop knife fights...
even though they won't listen to Yglesias (he doesn't even get along with garden-variety woke millennials at Vox, after all) I think his opinion should be put here as to who does what in what neighborhoods. and how to win friends and influence people on topic, a thing he's had a longtime interest in:
I once had an online conversation with a 15 year old New Zealand girl who tried, quite politely, to tell me that I was full of shit because, in her mind, *all* sovereign citizens are pacifist liberal preppers who deeply love Indigenous peoples.
By Rebecca Ellis @OPB.org, Updated: April 23, 2021 8:27 p.m.
Acting Portland Police Chief Chris Davis said police met with members of the district attorney’s office Thursday, who told police they were looking at refiling charges for people who have since been arrested for bigger crimes, such as breaking windows or lighting fires.
Since arriving in office last summer, Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt has rejected hundreds of criminal charges against people for low-level crimes committed during ongoing demonstrations.
In the midst of renewed protests and property destruction this week, his office appears to be considering refiling some of these charges — if the person has recently been arrested for a more serious crime.
Acting Portland Police Chief Chris Davis said police met with members of the district attorney’s office Thursday, who told police they were looking at refiling charges for people who have since been arrested for bigger crimes, such as breaking windows or lighting fires.
“They have told me they will reissue those previously dismissed charges when appropriate,” said Davis, noting the cases were still within the statute of limitations and could be brought back.
In a statement, Brent Weisberg, communications director for the Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office, said this was standard practice. “When a case involves unusual and/or aggravating circumstances, such as multiple arrests, we may consider taking a second look at prior cases. This is not a new practice for the District Attorney’s Office.” [....]
“Portland was a beautiful city,” said Ms. Carter, who was the first Black woman elected to the Oregon Legislative Assembly and is now retired. “Now you walk around and see all the graffiti, buildings being boarded up. I get sick to my stomach. And I get angry.”
from NYTimes:
With window-smashing protests ongoing, Portland is pursuing a crackdown.
Mayor Ted Wheeler says he wants to "unmask" demonstrators and "make it hurt them a little bit" — comments that have outraged racial justice and civil rights advocates.https://t.co/tU3TOcYQoc
^ this article is very good, no more beating around the bush that there is an actual anarchist faction there and that some "black lives matter" activitists are starting to speak out against their behavior.
but a the end of the article,is a good summary getting across what they really want to happen - they want taxpayers like this to leave, they want the city to fall apart and the want it to start over from zero, a whole new system. that is what anarchists want. people joke about it, but it's not a joke, they are really into destruction and passionate about it, especially anything that smacks of capitalism
Eric Murfitt, who manages Mercantile Portland, a high-end women’s clothing store, said he had heard leaders such as Mr. Wheeler expressing the right determination to end the unrest. But he said he still had not seen a lot of follow-through or results.
“Do we want to live in chaos where there are no laws, no police, no accountability?” Mr. Murfitt said. “Or do we want to live in a civil society?”
Mr. Murfitt said a night of looting in May resulted in $1 million in damage at his store, only days after it had reopened after the coronavirus lockdowns. Later in the year, Mr. Murfitt said, the store’s insurer declined to renew the policy.
The store eventually found another insurer but must pay four times more than the previous policy — tens of thousands of additional dollars per year — for a new policy that does not cover losses from civil unrest, Mr. Murfitt said. He said he was also spending tens of thousands of dollars to put bars on the windows and film on the window glass.
And as people with money move away, businesses like his will too, it's a vicious cycle. With no one to pay the taxes.
Boy does Joseph Hanson have a great little list of items for Maranie to ponder about the protest video she posted:
Items to ponder:
1. Don’t stand in the street
2. Don’t jump on hoods of cars
3. Did anyone call the police?
4. Did anyone acknowledge the irony of needing the police at this rally to abolish police?
5. If there are no police, what are the consequences of running over protesters?
I would add: they were expressing they want anarchy, amirite? They got it, this is it! Congrats to the protestors, got themselves a truly wild success.
For his role in burning down the Minneapolis station during Geo. Floyd protests, Dylan Shakespeare Robinson was sentenced to 4 years and a $12 million fine (3 buddies to go):
#OnThisDay in 1886, Haymarket affair: A bomb is thrown at policemen trying to break up a labor rally in Chicago, killing eight and wounding 60. The police fire into the crowd. pic.twitter.com/dr2p3xUrtb
“We dare not announce where and when we are meeting in the city of the original Antifa group, Rose City Antifa, which continues to actively hurt people and damage property nightly in Portland!” the petition says. https://t.co/cdTw0Y0Fpd
There is an anarchist group that is increasingly active on social media, Black Hammer (@BlkHmmrTimes. We are an anticolonial organization dedicated to getting our land back! Join us in making a city with no rent, kkkops, rona or colonizers at http://blackhammer.org)
They are unashamedly anti-semitic, going along with support of Palestinian causes, though the latter is not their primary interest (it's more like they presume all Palestinians are supportive of anarchism and Israel is evil. Jews as colonizers, a riff on the whole Protocols of Zion thing) They regularly do screeds against Anne Frank on Twitter, causing her name to trend. The goal is to just to piss people off? Start the ethnic wars? or what?)
If you thought CHAZ was a failure wait till you see the “Anne frank was a colonizer” org have a go at it https://t.co/v0xCoFLJxr
— barbara pit enthusiast (@AmazingJ_TV) May 3, 2021
— Liberal World Order Stan (@fedtanyl) May 4, 2021
Anne Frank was a Jewish child who was senselessly killed in a horrid genocide. not a colonizer, please just let this poor girls soul rest oh my god i am DISGUSTED by Twitter today how DARE people be calling an innocent child a colonizer.
Anne Frank trending every six months just so you can call a Holocaust victim a "colonizer" really speaks to the staunch antisemitism on this app and in the world in general.
Anne Frank is trending, in part, due to past statements by this account that they have doubled down on. If you are so "anticolonial" that you become not a denier of genocide but a anti-Semitic supporter of it; you can crawl back under the rock from which you emerged. pic.twitter.com/yk98zpQzpd
— Michael E. Carter, M.A. (@DeckofCarter) May 4, 2021
in Portland on May Day, a rally for abolition of ICE (a favorite target of Portland anarchists as an institution of white supremacy) went along with the liberation of Palestine cause. It's easy to see taking it a step further and calling Israel part of the whole white supremacist conspiracy, and another step making all Jews white supremacists, which some in Black Hammer obviously are doing --
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by artappraiser on Sun, 04/18/2021 - 2:00pm
Portland, Friday night, where the long termers are:
More background on that:
Thread:
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by artappraiser on Sun, 04/18/2021 - 2:29pm
More on same:
Fellow area free-lance journalist Justin Yau was physically attacked earlier Friday by a protestor or protestors who did not want any publicity showing their identity or actions. (A reminder that would not be the typical modus operandi of a peaceful protestor, peaceful protestors want publicity.)
by artappraiser on Sun, 04/18/2021 - 2:42pm
Vandals Smear Chauvin Defense Witness’ Former Santa Rosa Home With Pig’s Blood
@ sanfrancisco.cbslocal. com, April 18, 2021 at 8:46 am, VIDEO & PHOTO AT LINK
by artappraiser on Sun, 04/18/2021 - 2:58pm
You can see them at work in Oakland this weekend in this local CBS video report. They are wearing black., look like a a squad of an army and are very actively smashing windows with hammers, and then shortly thereafter they interview a black lady who says that they all seemed to be white people
After a Night of Protest Vandalism, Oakland Businesses Pick Up the Pieces
By Wilson Walker April 17, 2021 at 7:56 pm
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by artappraiser on Sun, 04/18/2021 - 3:09pm
got their number:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/19/2021 - 12:49pm
Edit to add, Mayor of Portland on the "self-described anarchists" on April 14, including reference to the above:
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/19/2021 - 1:26pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/19/2021 - 5:08pm
His Evergreen story worth reading
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 04/19/2021 - 6:19pm
thanks! much better then a lot of stuff on my Humanities thread, with a lot of nuance well-translated for outsiders about working in academia in general
by artappraiser on Mon, 04/19/2021 - 8:47pm
I see Portland is trying the cruel squeeze-blood-from-a-stone trick that's a sure sign of a city in decline.
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 2:25am
Man arrested, charged following incident in Minneapolis where National Guard members were shot at
KSTP, local ABC tv channel Updated: April 19, 2021 07:25 PM
Photo: Courtesy of Minnesota National Guard. This image shows a bullet hole in a National Guard vehicle after shots were fired Sunday morning in north Minneapolis.A 28-year-old man has been arrested and charged following an incident over the weekend where National Guard members were shot at in Minneapolis.
more interesting detail of arrest available in the downloadable pdf of the 8-page criminal complaint.
I especially thought interesting what the juvenile told them, stated in item #10 on page 6
https://www.justice.gov/usao-mn/press-release/file/1388056/download
and Thomas' record, 3rd-degree assault, served 18 mos. And that they thought an item in the glove compartment might be narcotics. And that one of the pistols had an obliterated serial number.
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 1:23am
Has made his initial appearance in federal court and is currently being held in Sherburne County Jail; he's black, there's now this jail photo. He listed residence as Chicago, but the 3rd-degree assault conviction was from Minnesota in 2017:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/22/2021 - 1:02am
thread on NYC protest this evening
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by artappraiser on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 11:19pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 04/20/2021 - 11:21pm
pfffffffffftt for kabuki tonite in Portlandia
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/21/2021 - 1:22am
excepting the fist fight elsewhere (protestor started it):
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/21/2021 - 1:41am
meantime, in NYC, the anarchists have a new segregationist agenda with specific roles depending upon skin color:
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/21/2021 - 1:50am
Ah, a (willing?) hostage barrier. I've seen this in movies, though not so many.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 04/21/2021 - 2:40am
via Newsmax April 18 but I wouldn't be surprised if it was real as they are expert at picking up on these things:
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/21/2021 - 5:14pm
I think I can answer his question: they want to afflict the comfortable and they think that will comfort the afflicted while civilization tumbles into chaos so we can start a do over. As long as it doesn't hurt their parents who are still supporting them with food, shelter, clothing and cell phone service.
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/21/2021 - 9:06pm
I see Jilani thinking along the same lines as me as far as the clueless liberal elite college kiddies at OSU:
They could, ya know, always go to a cheaper college and donate the savings in tuition funds to community service alternatives to policing in poor Columbus neighborhoods if they really believed it would help stop knife fights...
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/22/2021 - 12:04am
even though they won't listen to Yglesias (he doesn't even get along with garden-variety woke millennials at Vox, after all) I think his opinion should be put here as to who does what in what neighborhoods. and how to win friends and influence people on topic, a thing he's had a longtime interest in:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/22/2021 - 5:36pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/22/2021 - 12:43am
Sergio Olmos' only tweets of the night so far, probably more to come. (He retweeted the above first and some coverage of a peaceful afternoon protest)
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/24/2021 - 12:37am
Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office reconsiders charges for crimes committed during ongoing demonstrations
By Rebecca Ellis @OPB.org, Updated: April 23, 2021 8:27 p.m.
by artappraiser on Sat, 04/24/2021 - 12:45am
from NYTimes:
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/28/2021 - 3:54am
^ this article is very good, no more beating around the bush that there is an actual anarchist faction there and that some "black lives matter" activitists are starting to speak out against their behavior.
but a the end of the article,is a good summary getting across what they really want to happen - they want taxpayers like this to leave, they want the city to fall apart and the want it to start over from zero, a whole new system. that is what anarchists want. people joke about it, but it's not a joke, they are really into destruction and passionate about it, especially anything that smacks of capitalism
And as people with money move away, businesses like his will too, it's a vicious cycle. With no one to pay the taxes.
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/28/2021 - 4:32am
Boy does Joseph Hanson have a great little list of items for Maranie to ponder about the protest video she posted:
I would add: they were expressing they want anarchy, amirite? They got it, this is it! Congrats to the protestors, got themselves a truly wild success.
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/30/2021 - 5:25am
For his role in burning down the Minneapolis station during Geo. Floyd protests, Dylan Shakespeare Robinson was sentenced to 4 years and a $12 million fine (3 buddies to go):
there was also this CNN story
Minnesota man sentenced to 4 years in prison for role in setting ablaze a Minneapolis police precinct during Floyd protests
By Aya Elamroussi, CNN, Updated 6:14 PM ET, Thu April 29, 2021
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/30/2021 - 8:11pm
Accused of planting I.E.D. at Terre Haute, Indiana Police Station:
Another guy, a murder defendant from Chicago, claims he is a sovereign citizen and will represent himself:
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/30/2021 - 8:34pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 05/04/2021 - 7:07am
by artappraiser on Wed, 05/05/2021 - 2:49am
There is an anarchist group that is increasingly active on social media, Black Hammer (@BlkHmmrTimes. We are an anticolonial organization dedicated to getting our land back! Join us in making a city with no rent, kkkops, rona or colonizers at http://blackhammer.org)
They are unashamedly anti-semitic, going along with support of Palestinian causes, though the latter is not their primary interest (it's more like they presume all Palestinians are supportive of anarchism and Israel is evil. Jews as colonizers, a riff on the whole Protocols of Zion thing) They regularly do screeds against Anne Frank on Twitter, causing her name to trend. The goal is to just to piss people off? Start the ethnic wars? or what?)
by artappraiser on Wed, 05/05/2021 - 2:36pm
in Portland on May Day, a rally for abolition of ICE (a favorite target of Portland anarchists as an institution of white supremacy) went along with the liberation of Palestine cause. It's easy to see taking it a step further and calling Israel part of the whole white supremacist conspiracy, and another step making all Jews white supremacists, which some in Black Hammer obviously are doing --
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/06/2021 - 12:33am
look closely and that's not a "thumbs up" sign
(revcom)
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/10/2021 - 4:53pm