Congrats!
Or as we in the space laser community say, mazel tov!
"Rep. Kinzinger (R-Ill.)...has launched a political action committee to challenge the former president’s wing of the GOP caucus and stand up against a leadership team still aligned with him."https://t.co/nxigLCmfkq
“My dad's cousins sent me a petition — a certified letter — saying they disowned me because I'm in 'the devil's army' now," @RepKinzinger said in a phone conversation on Thursday. @businessinsider https://t.co/cdzKUNJZ4R
Just made a donation to @RepKinzinger’s new project. Even if you’re not a Republican, there’s no doubt our country would be better off if the GOP had more reps like Adam. https://t.co/TI2hVO7xwa
Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey on Sunday brushed off the state Republican Party’s censure of him as an “action of very little consequence.”https://t.co/GV74MX3xQN
State Republicans worry that Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene will emerge as the face of the GOP, tainting the entire ticket with a stamp of conspiracy theory and extremism in the run-up to the 2022 midterms. https://t.co/Is6hm4qWvt
Rep. Adam Kinzinger on Sunday offered a glimpse of what it’s like being one of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach former President Donald Trumphttps://t.co/YWeYZd76X4
In a letter to President Joe Biden, 10 Senate Republicans said they are working on a counterproposal focusing on spending $160 billion on vaccines, testing, treatment and personal protective equipmenthttps://t.co/CU0CwLk4fA
Mitch denounces Satan; Pol Pot And Idi Amin retain chairmanships. See how good the GOP is at reforming? Now a free Dems should resign as a sign of unity.
Mitch's staff is probably informing him about certain things:
In states across the country, thousands of Republicans changed their party registrations in the wake of the violent insurrection by pro-Trump extremists at the U.S. Capitol. https://t.co/dJaYHesa8E
"His strongest political priorities are fiscal restraint and national defense, he said."
Just a side note but I'm so fucking tired of this. We can have differences in opinions about the value of fiscal restraint. But you can't claim it's a priority and support tax cuts that are unpaid for. If fiscal restraint is your priority then the tax cuts have to be coupled with equal amounts of decreased spending. They could claim they made a mistake in thinking that Reagan's tax cuts would boost the economy so much that it would increase revenue, trickle down economics. But faced with the unprecedented deficits, several times as large as Carter's highest deficit and 10 times his average deficit, a fiscal conservative would never support them again. /shrug what ever. Imo they are nothing but liars and hypocrites.
As more far-right Republicans take office and exercise power, party officials are promoting unity and neutrality rather than confronting dangerous messages and disinformation.
photo caption With Republicans struggling amid an absence of leadership, Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, is trying to promote unity while saying she is not going to ride herd or impose top-down decision making on the party
by Annie Karni & Mike Baker @ NYTimes.com, Feb. 1
WASHINGTON — Knute Buehler, who led Oregon’s Republican ticket as the candidate for governor in 2018, watched with growing alarm in recent weeks as Republicans around the nation challenged the reliability of the presidential election results.
Then he watched the Jan. 6 siege at the United States Capitol in horror. And then, to his astonishment, Republican Party officials in his own state embraced the conspiracy theory that the attack was actually a left-wing “false flag” plot to frame Trump supporters.
The night after his party’s leadership passed a formal resolution promoting the false flag theory, Mr. Buehler cracked open a local microbrew and filed to change his registration from Republican to independent. “It was very painful,” he said.
With no dominant leader other than the deplatformed one-term president, a radical right movement that became emboldened under President Donald J. Trump has been maneuvering for more power, and ascending in different states and congressional districts. More moderate Republicans feel increasingly under attack, but so far have made little progress in galvanizing voters, donors or new recruits for office to push back against extremism.
In Wyoming, Representative Matt Gaetz, a Florida Republican, headlined a rally on Thursday to denounce Representative Liz Cheney for her vote to impeach Mr. Trump. Joining Mr. Gaetz by phone hookup was Donald Trump Jr., the former president’s son, who has been working to unseat Ms. Cheney and replace her with someone he believes better represents the views of her constituents — in other words, fealty to his father.
And in Michigan, Meshawn Maddock, a Trump supporter who pushed false claims about voter fraud and organized buses of Republicans from the state to attend the Jan. 6 rally in Washington, is running unopposed to become the new co-chairman of the state party. While marching from the Ellipse to the Capitol on Jan. 6, Ms. Maddock praised the “most incredible crowd and sea of people I’ve ever worked with.”
Nothing is defining and dividing the G.O.P. more than loyalty to Mr. Trump and his false claims about the election.
“You’ve got 41 percent of the country, including a lot of independents, who think the election was stolen,” said Scott Reed, the former political director for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and a veteran Republican consultant. “That’s an amazing number. It takes months for a party that loses a national election to re-gel.”
There are still Republican officials who are responsible for the party’s political interests — but these people are under their own kinds of pressure, preaching unity to factions that have no desire to unite.
Perhaps the most prominent party official right now is Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee and a close ally of Mr. Trump’s. In an interview on Friday, she condemned the “false flag” resolution passed by Oregon Republicans and sounded exasperated at the public brawling in her party.
“If you have a family dispute, don’t go on ‘Jerry Springer,’” Ms. McDaniel said. “Do it behind closed doors. It’s my role to call them and explain that if we don’t keep our party united and focused on 2022, we will lose. If we are attacking fellow Republicans and cancel culture within our own party, it is not helpful to winning majorities.”
At the same time, Ms. McDaniel made clear that she was not going to impose top-down decision making on the party, noting that the role of the R.N.C. was to stay neutral in primaries. She said she planned to do so in the 2022 midterm elections, barring more extreme behavior emerging.
“It depends if there’s more egregious things, if there’s a David Duke situation,” she said. “Marjorie Taylor Greene is trying to distance herself from those things and there’s going to be an investigation. I trust the voters. I have a lot of faith in the voters to pick who’s best to represent them.”
On Monday, Mr. McConnell took a stronger stand against Ms. Greene, denouncing her “loony lies and conspiracy theories” and saying they amounted to a “cancer” on the Republican Party, even as he did not mention her by name.
For some Republicans deeply critical of Mr. Trump, the former president’s departure from Washington has not led to an improved era for the party. Rather, they see a party that doesn’t have the leadership to stand up to its most extreme and divisive factions.
“Kevin McCarthy has been more critical of Liz Cheney than he has been of Marjorie Taylor Greene,” Bill Kristol, the conservative writer and a “Never Trump” Republican, said of the House Republican leader. “That’s pretty astonishing. That’s the bottom line. It’s one thing to have party unity, but at some point there have to be boundaries.”
Senior Republicans are still figuring out exactly where those are after four years of defending Mr. Trump, who burst past boundaries all the time. Ms. McDaniel said she was concerned by some of the language that has been used by Ms. Greene, who before she was elected to Congress expressed support for executing prominent Democrats like Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Ms. McDaniel called the comments “atrocious” and said “they need to be condemned.” She added: “They are inaccurate. They are very, very dangerous.”
But she stopped short of condemning Ms. Greene outright and gave her the benefit of the doubt for her past disturbing comments. “She has said they’re not from her,” Ms. McDaniel said. “There does need to be an investigation, and I trust that Kevin McCarthy will handle that within his own caucus.”
When pressed, Ms. McDaniel said that some G.O.P. resolutions and statements needed to be disavowed, citing Oregon’s false flag resolution. “I know our state party chairs are doing the best they can to represent their voters, but that statement goes too far,” she said.
And she expressed regret about letting Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former president’s personal lawyer and the former mayor of New York, and Sidney Powell, another member of Mr. Trump’s legal team who spread conspiracy theories, hold a news conference at the R.N.C. headquarters in Washington.
“When I saw some of the things Sidney was saying, without proof, I certainly was concerned it was happening in my building,” she said. “There are a whole host of issues we had to deal with — what is the liability of the R.N.C., if these allegations are made and unfounded?”
Despite the attempts of Ms. McDaniel, who remains closely allied to Mr. Trump, to bring the party together, many lifelong Republicans feel that there is no place for them in it.
In Washington State, Chris Vance had for years dedicated himself to the Republican movement as both a politician and as the party chairman. But in 2016, when he ran unsuccessfully for Senate, he found himself in conflict with many Republican voters in his state, who disagreed on issues including trade agreements, immigration and the role of NATO. That disconnect has only grown over the past four years, he said.
“They are intent on being a Trump cheering society,” said Mr. Vance, who has since left the party. “I don’t think the party can be saved. I think it needs to be broken up, smashed and blown to bits.”
Some Republican strategists said that when Democrats in Congress began trying to pass legislation, it would become easier for Republicans to remember they are on the same team.
“Over time, the Pelosi-Schumer-Biden agenda, in that order, will unite the Republican Party,” said Marc Short, who served as chief of staff to former Vice President Mike Pence. He called Ms. Greene an “outlier member” of the G.O.P. conference and said that “the obituaries of the G.O.P. are premature.”
Others in the party conceded that there were few levers of control: A rise in low dollar fund-raising, for instance, means that some big donors who favor more moderate agendas are losing influence in politics. Ms. Greene said Friday that nearly 60,000 small donors had given $1.6 million to her campaign account since the beginning of what she called a “smear campaign” against her by the news media.
Mr. McCarthy, people familiar with his thinking said, felt hamstrung by Ms. Greene and believed that the only way to deal with her was to tolerate her. On Saturday, Ms. Greene tweeted that she had spoken to Mr. Trump and he had offered his support, which may undercut attempts to modulate her behavior.
At the state level, Republican leaders are grappling with how to keep Trump loyalists engaged while trying to steer the party away from fringe conspiracy theories.
“Trump was a value add to our party,” said Jennifer Carnahan, the Minnesota Republican Party chairwoman. “We saw a level of growth in Minnesota we hadn’t seen in a long time. We want those people to stay engaged. We want them to vote again in two years.” She added: “We also need to remember that one of the things that makes America so great is having free and fair elections. Biden was inaugurated; he is our president.”
National party officials like Ms. McDaniel who are seeking to unite the party in order to win back majorities in 2022 are in a difficult position of trying to do so without disavowing Republicans who are attacking other Republicans.
In the middle of all the division is Mr. Trump. He still wields power over his party even out of office and barred from Twitter, as was clear when Mr. McCarthy visited him last week to discuss his help in 2022 races.
But Mr. Reed said the party needed to look beyond Mr. Trump if it wanted to win again. “A strong party always looks to the future for leaders, not to the past,” he said.
^ one point of interest to me, of many, was how McDaniel is clearly throwing Rudy Giuliani & Sidney Powell under the bus. I am a little confused on her approach to Marjorie Taylor Greene
^ this is the same guy (dupe of just posted on "Meet the Perps") turns out to be an ex-drag queen, obviously found a new gig/identity: Proud Boy fan. And after all, if you think on it a while it all makes sense, including the Trump campaign favoring the Village People's "YMCA" at many of its rallies:
Ex-Gay Who Auditioned for "Drag Race" Fired From Texas GOP for Participating In Capital Siege... MESS! https://t.co/GHHe7hmIkD
Let me surmise further: it's common meme among the left "woke" to defend choice of gender identity and other identities. This guy can't figure out which identity he wants to use, he keeps switching back and forth! Very woke. This is not Republican, you pick an identity and you stay with it.
More seriously and just as interesting: it does seem so far that despite their Senator Ted Cruz, the Texas GOP is not going the way of like AZ, they are anti-Trump sedition and sticking with the more traditional Republican-ism Which is incredibly ironic given their pre-Trump history of a seditionist bent!
Then there's all those pro-Trump Hispanics in the districts along the southern border...
John Thune on House GOP: “Do they want to be the party of limited government and fiscal responsibility, free markets, peace through strength and pro-life — or do they want to be the party of conspiracy theories and QAnon?” https://t.co/yjTuJvopNt
The gulf between the two top Republicans on Capitol Hill grew even wider this week after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) took the unusual step of plunging into a pair of controversies that House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) is struggling to contain in the lower chamber.
In the span of an hour, McConnell issued two separate statements, one condemning the “loony” conspiracy theories of first-term Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), a follower of the pro-Trump QAnon movement; the other praising Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) as she faces backlash from former President Trump loyalists after her vote to impeach the 45th president.
Those dynamics have created a rare and growing rift between the top GOP leaders across chambers at the very moment when Republicans are trying to unite against the ambitious legislative agenda of the new Democratic president, Joe Biden.
Both the Greene and Cheney issues have created migraines for McCarthy, a close Trump ally caught between the House Republicans still defending the former president following the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol and those warning that only a clean break from the mercurial Trump will save the Republican Party from devouring itself.
McConnell’s extraordinary decision to insert himself into those debates — and to do it so aggressively — not only places him squarely in the latter camp, but also applies enormous pressure on McCarthy to join him there. And McConnell is hardly alone; other top Senate Republican voices are also seeking to shift the party’s focus away from its more fringe elements, represented by Greene, and back to the institutionalist mindset embodied by Cheney.
“I think we should make it very clear that [Greene] does not represent us in any way. Our big tent is not large enough to both accommodate conservatives and kooks,” Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah), the GOP’s 2012 standard-bearer, told reporters Tuesday.
“House Republicans are gonna have to decide who they want to be. Do they want to be the party of limited government, fiscal responsibility and free markets, and peace through strength and pro-life, or do they want to be a party of conspiracy theories and QAnon?” added Senate GOP Whip John Thune (S.D.). “It's a big distraction, I think, for them right now, and not in a good way.”
The McConnell-McCarthy divide also reflects the vastly different political interests and power structures underlying the House, where more than half of Republicans had voted to overturn the election results based on Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud, and the Senate, where the number was in the single digits.
McCarthy himself embraced Trump’s false allegations that the election was stolen, while McConnell took the opposite tack, warning just minutes before the Jan. 6 insurrection that America would enter a “death spiral” if elections could be overturned by mere allegations from the losing party.
It’s unlikely that McConnell will vote to convict Trump, [....]
"We own all of Arizona except for the secretary of state," 'Stop the Steal' leader (Ali Alexander) has deep connections with Arizona Republicans pic.twitter.com/NmSNqRTjzh
and last but not least- Ali Alexander states that the “Stop the Steal” caucus will take over the GOP Party- which @kelliwardaz cheers on with great pride! pic.twitter.com/Ued8Eqt4GN
Karl Rove says Marjorie Taylor Greene should be stripped of her committee assignments and "confined to the dark recesses of the furthest building away from the house floor" pic.twitter.com/dGh62vIMt5
We are Republicans & conservatives defending pro-democracy R's, holding accountable those who tried to overturn the election, & fighting against disinformation.
Major major cognitive dissonance and use of opposing culture wars memes even within Trump supporting wing, there is no there there as to any unified message:
at the same time the Marjorie Greene and Matt Gaetz wing is pushing patriotism I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
and Burgess Owens is lecturing Dems on Judiciary about patriotism:
This is Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) drags Utah’s new Trump-supporting Black Republican (@BurgessOwens) for coming in on his first day and lecturing Democrats about patriotism when Owens voted to overturn the November election even after the Capitol insurrection. pic.twitter.com/mJ7cUJ0RSH
Without dear leader Trump's nonsensical babbling at the top, there is no there there, no unifying message.
When your demagogue is silenced by the major communications channels in your society, there is no manipulation and no direction.
Kevin McCarthy should realize the moves like those in Texas and his party in other states censuring the elected of their own party are in direct opposition to what he is trying to do. But he doesn't seem capable of that kind of vision? People like Karl Rove are probably throwing up their hands...
The Brownian motion of agendas is why I have been arguing that Trump cannot be replicated by others simply using his modus operandi. Without the black hole of his self reference to pull objects together, they float around randomly in the fluid medium.
Apparently the new talking point at Fox is that the last four years were some sort of aberration and now the real GOP is coming back pic.twitter.com/f0xLyvLlQH
Thune to me on Cheney saying don’t embrace Trump: "If we want to speak to the issues that people in this country care about, the longer we're tied to a personality -- a cult of personality -- I just don't think that's a good durable model for the future.” https://t.co/H27IlmIb2Z
Murkowski: "I think we're in a place where Donald Trump is gone -- and in terms of his role in party, that has yet to be determined. But I have not embraced the party of Donald Trump. I'm looking for the Republican Party."
"In eight years in Congress, I probably had a hundred votes that I could have gone either way, and I maybe second-guessed a little bit," said Rep. Tom Rice, the South Carolina Republican who was censured by his state party for his vote. "This is not one of them."
Adam Kinzinger's family sent him a handwritten, two-page letter disowning him for breaking with Trump: “Oh my, what a disappointment you are to us and to God!” https://t.co/Nt2FEdWsMi
Each one of these appearances will bum the Trumpsters out. The thing they want cannot be replaced by the thing they selected. The desperation to prop up El Cid is the realization that he is dead.
WOW MOAT, look at this, talk about grieving, the poor Pence wing must now give up CPAC! Has had his true home stolen out from under him, will wonders will never cease.
Mike Pence declined an invitation to CPAC, where Trump is the headline guest and the MAGA crowd has taken over https://t.co/XN8BpopD9i
p.s. One of George H.W. Bush's phrases parodied by Dana Carvey just popped into my head: it wouldn't be prudent. Pence is nothing if not prudent. Wouldn't be prudent to associate self, "mother" and family with people that were willing to let us be torn apart by a mob of jackals?
you are so confident about that, more than me and I'm the one who was trying to calm down a friend the other day freaking out that "he's coming back!" I guess I agree but I think it will take a whole lot of time to wean the fans to something else as he slowly acclimates to full time staying out of jail until he dies. Did you happen to see Joe's televised statement tonight? I was kind of amazed, it's was like: wow, how can anyone possibly demonize this incredibly caring and extremely authentic character? It was like: greatest president all of all time reporting for duty. I thought: geez he might really be able to win some of the nuts over! New paradigm all around?
I don't think it is about attracting the fans to something else, at least not directly. My argument is that he cannot be replaced, even by himself. The excitement he built upon during his rise in 2015/2016 came from the language of trying something new. His lack of attention to the policy discussions swirling around him was pointing to a shortcut many hoped existed. The stumble fucks in government were preventing easily solved problems to be solved.
So, while there is a lot of skepticism to how much policy can improve things, the magic wand is also suspicious because here we are in the middle of all these outcomes that we were promised would never happen.
Revisions of history can place the blame for bad outcomes here and there but cannot sell something that has failed so spectacularly in such recent memory.
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large Updated 1621 GMT (0021 HKT) February 19, 2021
South Carolina senator -- and BFF of former President Donald Trump -- Lindsey Graham is heading down to Mar-a-Lago to play golf and huddle with the 45th president in hopes of bringing about a detente between Trump and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.
It won't work.
That fact isn't Graham's fault. Nor is it a bad idea for him to try to play peacemaker between Trump and McConnell, the two most powerful figures within the GOP. "They're now at each other's throat," Graham said on Fox News this week. "I'm more worried about 2022 than I've ever been. I don't want to eat our own."
A fissure like this is, without question, a bad thing for the Republican Party as it tries to retake the majorities in the House and Senate it lost during Trump's presidency. If Trump and McConnell spend the next two years using Senate primaries as a series of proxy battles in the fight for control of the GOP, it will assuredly hamstring their chances in the 2022 midterms.
So Graham's mission makes sense. But again, it will fail. And it will fail for one specific reason: Donald Trump could care less about what's best for the Republican Party.
See, in order for Graham to succeed in his effort to (re)build a bridge between Trump and McConnell, he needs both men to have the best interests of the GOP as their top priority. That has never been and will never be Trump's top priority.
He has never made any attempt to hide the fact that his list of priorities goes something like this: 1. Trump 2. Trump 3. Trump blood relatives 4. Everyone else in the world. Whenever Trump did something in office that was broadly interpreted to help the Republican Party at large, it was purely a happy offshoot of his main goal: To advance his own brand and self-interest [....]
Really great story by @rosiegray on the pro-Trump tilt of the Arizona Republican Party and also the tensions within the GOP there. https://t.co/XlqcrMCbnP
Kinzinger threatens as regards the new drama in Georgia (the country):
This is a very concerning move by the Govt of Georgia. Given the tense situation, I call on the Govt to stand down from this dramatic action. We are all watching. https://t.co/YoglwixFdk
Just asked McConnell if he regrets his criticism of Trump after the impeachment trial in the wake of Trump’s attacks against him last week, and he said: “I really don’t have anything to add on that subject.” Translation: He will never speak about it again. https://t.co/LNMdNXqyDZ
Tough old coot. To me more like one of those headmasters in an English novel with rigid principles.Now we shall never speak of him again, come what may. Back to the rules!
Bloody hell Master McConnell, Ohwhat a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive
A true blue partisan? whichever way the wind blows? what does it matter what Republican party exists when he is gone as long as there is one? At least the wife quit her job, something more than just one lecture.
Hmmm, interesting that Karl Rove still thinks culture warring is the way to to go, even though he's clearly for dumping Trump as General (General Trump one of the greatest culture warriors of all times, but so erratic, mercurial and narcissistic?)
Kinzinger blasts Senator Ron Johnson for continuing with the lies in the Capitol security hearing, in tweet 4 hrs. ago
It's disgraceful for a sitting Senator to spread disinformation so blatantly. It's a disservice to the people he serves to continue lying to them like this. It's dangerous and it must stop. https://t.co/sYFOHMdQYc
Here's a primary challenger for Kinzinger's seat, tweeting an "America First" message against him at nearly the same time, as if Kinzinger is the traitor:
Fake Republican Adam Kinzinger won’t put AMERICA FIRST— I will.
That’s why I’m challenging him for his seat in Congress
I am the daughter of LEGAL immigrants, a small business owner, & PROUDLY served in the Trump administration.
Kinzinger also blasted Tucker Carlson yesterday (and note his use of #Country1st and #restoreourgophashtags)
Next step in the whitewash: “who is this ‘Q’ of which you speak? There is no website!” Deny, plead ignorance, misdirect... is there any question why people are confused? Quit lying, accept reality and use your energy to make us a better country. #Country1st#restoreourgophttps://t.co/mYT4OAhmY8
Trump will be summoned to court for a criminal trial in New York for tax fraud. This outcome would seriously undermine his chances of a political comeback. Tax fraud is a felony which can carry a lengthy prison sentence.#TrumpForPrison#FreshVoicesRisehttps://t.co/SLDRQ4sB1I
— Harry Potter Resists (Commentary) (@HarryPotterMAGE) February 24, 2021
Important by @amandacarpenter: Today's GOP tolerates no dissent, no anti-Trumpspeak. What's to be done? An intra- or inter-party faction? A 3rd party? Be Biden Democrats? "None of these options is guaranteed success. Any of them is better than surrender."https://t.co/vfMutLs1Eb
Well, as Orwell may have said, "The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it." And the quickest way to lose is to surrender. Things could I suppose change, but for now the surrender to Trump is pretty complete. It's Trump's party. https://t.co/SAZBnDaF7s
Here’s a crazy idea: If you’re a conservative politician or publicist who thinks politics should not be based on lies—I think there are still some—don’t speak at CPAC, whose host is a shameless liar and whose chief guest is the primary and continuing perpetrator of the Big Lie.
'In short, the falsehood that the election constituted a hideous injustice done to Trump, and the fact that a lot of Republican voters believe it to be true, is becoming the rationale for more voter suppression and redoubled counter-majoritarian tactics." https://t.co/V4jEUm9edo
Won't livetweet CPAC, but like 15 minutes in they're playing a video titled "YOUR VOTES CANCELLED," which lengthily suggests major fraud in the 2020 election. (Like, it ominously shows a CNN clip about how Biden started to look better late at night as ballots were counted.)
It then proceeds to a clips of people saying it was "impossible" and "very strange" that Biden gained ground as votes were counted on election night, then a clip of Rush Limbaugh saying it must have been the "vote fairy" arriving in swing states.
After not being able to demonstrate how the Liberal State has done any of the things that have been ascribed to it, the congregation has come to either grudgingly accept the rule of their victorious masters or attempt to replace them by force.
Makes me think about a chicken-or-egg problem: which came first, CPAC or the "Tea Party"? Was CPAC always representing a populist rabble rouser wing, or was it originally invented for serious conservative policy promotion? (one thing I remember is that it was quite open to the right-wing Christian "family values" culture war against libruls, i.e. Jerry Falwell and that little political activist guy-can't remember his name. But that was at least serious in a way, it went with traditional nuclear family being the foundation of society)
Ralph Reed is the political operative guy I was thinking about. He was with Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition, not Falwell. Turns out Robertson and Falwell competed, splinter against splinter. Christian Coalition wasn't politically active until 1990 according to wikipedia. I was thinking about Reed because he was actually a very savvy political operative. as opposed to a lot of the bozos leading the charge.
The Moral Majority, with the help of radio and television preacher Jerry Falwell, helped mobilize a generation of conservative Christian voters. The secularization of public schools and the advent of federal protection for abortion rights roused evangelicals and conservative Catholics during the 1970s, leading to the formation of several Christian advocacy groups, including the Moral Majority in 1979. The Moral Majority supported Ronald Reagan in the presidential election of 1980 and was credited with part of his landslide victory over Jimmy Carter, formerly an evangelical darling in 1976. The Moral Majority's success turned Falwell into a household name, even as the organization became a victim of its own success the late 1980s.
by The_Old_Duck (not verified) on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:11am
I think different roosters were involved in the formation of CPAC and the Tea Party.
CPAC did come from policy agendas that resisted changes to public institutions and the loss of privilege seen as the probable result of more widespread equal treatment under the law. So that became one of the platforms of the Republican Party that was not accepted by all of them but was incorporated to give them the coalition they needed to win power. Reagan promoted them but did not try to directly engage with them. The importance of Ralph Reed is his work with GHW Bush to actively meet Evangelists as a self identified member of their congregation who spoke the language fluently. Having Pence along was a way for Trump to scoop up those people and still hit on porn stars. It is a pretty weird development that such a Magog has been cast in the role of an apocalyptic savior from the child eating Libs. A number of old school Evangelists have left the festival but hope to still have the influence they have become accustomed to.
The Tea Party comes from a cognitive dysfunction that appeared after the Reagan Revolution. Those years brought an exponential increase in power to the business community. The change pushed both the Republicans and Democrats to the right in regards to what can be seen outside the Overton window. The Tea Party began objecting to the fallout of that shift but could not discuss the principal benefactors as that would require using the language of class struggle that only the Left can be blamed for. Pinning the tail on the Donkey was combined with the Gingrich purge of any dissidents of the message within his caucus; the Contract on a America was fait accompli.
I suspected so, you remember these things way better than me, really appreciate the input.
It would follow then that the elite old guard resents the stealing of CPAC by the Trump yahoos.
It is true that it appears as surrender, surrender, surrender. And it only grows worse, now they are selling insurrectionism. I can understand the desire to start a third party after all of that. But that's "losing", Trump really is winning again in a way.
It could be said that both groups are a victim of their success. Buying into the narrative of a powerful invisible enemy that keeps kicking their ass reminds me of what one Evangelist said while in prison:
"It is the nature, and the advantage, of strong people that they can bring out the crucial questions and form a clear opinion about them. The weak always have to decide between alternatives that are not their own."
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Grover Norquist extended the absurdities of Reagan anti-government paean to "shrink it enough to drown it in a bathtub", and the meme took as a near literal reality - all you have to do is pull the plug on government and everything will be better, not recognizing the similarities to Liberia and Haiti.
The Tea Party was also an amazing pulled-from-the-wreckage rebranding in late 2008 to disavow any responsibility or connection with them guys who just drove into a wall. Seemingly it worked, so they're trying it again
Though most have come to ridicule that as an absurd joke-even some of the Trump fans recognize it as such, I think--it's useful to keep in mind what it really is: an anti-liberal elite message. Hillary is liberal elite, CPAC is 100% populist? No elite Bill Buckley conservatives wanted, i.e., Bill Kristol....get with the populism or begone with ya?
This is also a good quick reminder of what Trumpism is really about (I posted the clip on the Ted Cruz thread with a different intro that splains why "Howard Dean" is trending). Tea Party had a little of it too (remember Jesse Ventura getting elected governor?)
And this, kids, is why I keep saying the most useful concept for understanding today's conservative movement is "kayfabe" https://t.co/4WauTDuiKR
makes the point well how delusional this type of thinking is:
Trump is a one-term, twice impeached President who orchestrated the loss of the House, the Senate, and the WH, as well as dozens of court cases. Who is the loser again? https://t.co/3SO2OEqhR1
I myself find I needed that big picture reminder; constantly reading about Trumpie alternate reality spin it's hard not to start thinking it is somewhat valid. For chrissake 2/3 of the country despise him.
Gov. Ron DeSantis, facing re-election next year and thought to be considering a run for president in 2024, bragged at CPAC about keeping a Florida a "free state" and avoiding lockdowns and cracking down on Big Tech.
One word he did not mention in his 7 minutes: Trump.
Theory: McConnell does not believe Trump will run (and therefore be the nominee in 24), and saying he’ll support the GOP nominee is both second nature for McConnell & the easiest way to stop fueling a distracting party family feud https://t.co/rRa3IRoXqt
Now here it strikes me that Rep. Gozar really gits the "MAGA magic", what resounds about Trump populism and how it could win over many more voters (especially without the alienating presence of the narcissist without empathy)--this is no doubt the WHY of many local GOP people are going against establishment, it's a new narrative and it's certainly not consistent with the GOP of big biz supporting, tax breaks for the rich:
$2,000??? Let’s get serious. Americans are facing foreclosures on homes, evictions, car repos, and massive debt because of the government ordered 2 week-cum-1 year lockdown. Govt broke it. Govt fixes. My amendment is for $10,000 per person. Not corporations. https://t.co/WM2ukg9Tx4
It also conveniently blames the gummint which attracts all libertarian types, left and right.
Edit to add: a reminder that Trump was always pushing for the $2K checks to individuals and not means tested. Was for pumping things up against many in the Congressional GOP. (Of course, he liked it that some opposed it because he could then be the savior king who would be including a letter with the checks taking credit for them, as he did last time.)
The McCarthy-Cheney disagreement wasn’t funny. It presents a serious choice for Republicans, @JRubinBlogger writes https://t.co/P5j1BbhC6e PostOpinions
Yeah me too! That fine of a level of stereotyping and profiling is like one of my favorite things! I realize now that is why I loved late 19th-century realist novels, too. I should have married a SNL skit writer, I guess. I too was wondering about the flip flops! (If you're lonely, still alive and unattached in a decade, DO try to get in touch, we could be great companions.)
Yglesias clearly thinks the more the public hears from Trump, the worse for McCarthy and McConnell and that Jack of Twitter should call their bluff on that:
Now that the immediate crisis is over, I think @jack should ask McConnell and McCarthy to definitely say whether or not they want to publicly pretend that they want Trump back on Twitter and then when they pretend that they do he should give them what they pretend to want.
after his YUGE highly rated stunning success at CPAC that everybody can't stop talking about, Trump moves on to add Karl Rove (friend of the evil Mitch) to his long GOP excommunication list
INBOX: A statement from the former president of the United States about Karl Rove: pic.twitter.com/9D7pG0JLj7
and note he also reminds that they would have lost House seats instead of gain them if not for him, not to mention all the GOP Senate seats that he saved from defeat....
Evangelicals divided over support for Trump post Jan. 6:
Images from the Capitol riot—activists waving flags with Christian messages, praying in the name of Jesus inside the Senate chamber—have left many evangelicals angry and confused https://t.co/wwqE7gpbPZ EconUS
The RNC piece is also the most interesting here. NRSC and NRCC were always likely to do incumbent protection. But Trump campaign and RNC were intertwined for four years. https://t.co/IMPdob7qDh
I think Mary Trump is right that the general idea is he wants to take control of as much of "the money" as he can, including what might go to them. Always keep in mind that he's got no real political ideology, never did.
further confirmation from the horse's mouth that Trump is just trying to steal their donors, it's all about the money and he's not really a Republican by any definition:
And also to personally enrich himself through very loose requirements for spending that apply to leadership PACS https://t.co/ZJyMnkC9KQ
That is a question that mystifies some of those who counted themselves as enthusiastic supporters of Wisconsin’s Republican senator back when he entered politics a little more than a decade ago.
Though Johnson arose amid the anti-establishment tea party movement, the former plastics executive from Oshkosh styled himself as a sensible businessman, driven by data and hewing to traditional GOP issues such as smaller government. In 2013, he was excoriated by the right-wing media when he described one of its heroes, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), as “intellectually dishonest.”
That is pretty much what some of Johnson’s former fans are saying about him these days. Once referred to affectionately back home as “RonJon,” he is lately becoming known as “RonAnon” for his conspiratorially minded gambits.
His evolution is emblematic of what has happened to the entire Republican Party in the era of Donald Trump.
[....]
The senator appears to have decided that his best hope for survival is to stir up the Trump base. But his antics are just as likely to bring more Democrats to the polls, which many Wisconsin Republicans fear could create problems for the rest of the state’s GOP ticket, and potentially doom their hopes of winning back the governorship [....]
NEW - McConnell, at Senate GOP luncheon, boasted about how well the Senate R outside groups have done overtime and compared them to Trump's super PAC. Comes amid Trump threat over fundraising. @npfandos and me https://t.co/j8PwIKa9kj
Unclear whether McConnell was seeking to make a point about Trump or simply reassure members nervous about the former president targeting them https://t.co/j8PwIKa9kj
Maybe I am missing a critical element here but I heard Mitch to simply be saying: Bring it on. If you win the funding war, you are the King. Your move, creep.
I just can't see him getting enough money to do anything real with all of corporate world not wanting anything to do with him and all the expenses and time of court cases. All he's doing is stealing a lot of their small donors,. just lessening the haul. Of course on individual primary races he can do a lot of damage with attacks. But you still got to target those somehow to the voters and he doesn't have free social media.
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by artappraiser on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 12:22am
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 12:29am
MITCH MCCONNELL JUST CAME OUT VERY STRONGLY AGAINST TAYLOR GREENE:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 7:25pm
Mitch denounces Satan; Pol Pot And Idi Amin retain chairmanships. See how good the GOP is at reforming? Now a free Dems should resign as a sign of unity.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 7:45pm
Mitch's staff is probably informing him about certain things:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 8:48pm
If Rick Wilson knows about it, so do they:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 8:50pm
"His strongest political priorities are fiscal restraint and national defense, he said."
Just a side note but I'm so fucking tired of this. We can have differences in opinions about the value of fiscal restraint. But you can't claim it's a priority and support tax cuts that are unpaid for. If fiscal restraint is your priority then the tax cuts have to be coupled with equal amounts of decreased spending. They could claim they made a mistake in thinking that Reagan's tax cuts would boost the economy so much that it would increase revenue, trickle down economics. But faced with the unprecedented deficits, several times as large as Carter's highest deficit and 10 times his average deficit, a fiscal conservative would never support them again. /shrug what ever. Imo they are nothing but liars and hypocrites.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 02/01/2021 - 9:57pm
Important extensive roundup article, like a point-in-time record on topic, includes interview with RNC chairwoman Ronna McDaniel:
An Emboldened Extremist Wing Flexes Its Power in a Leaderless G.O.P.
As more far-right Republicans take office and exercise power, party officials are promoting unity and neutrality rather than confronting dangerous messages and disinformation.
photo caption With Republicans struggling amid an absence of leadership, Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, is trying to promote unity while saying she is not going to ride herd or impose top-down decision making on the party
by Annie Karni & Mike Baker @ NYTimes.com, Feb. 1
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 2:19am
^ one point of interest to me, of many, was how McDaniel is clearly throwing Rudy Giuliani & Sidney Powell under the bus. I am a little confused on her approach to Marjorie Taylor Greene
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 2:25am
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 4:50am
^ this is the same guy (dupe of just posted on "Meet the Perps") turns out to be an ex-drag queen, obviously found a new gig/identity: Proud Boy fan. And after all, if you think on it a while it all makes sense, including the Trump campaign favoring the Village People's "YMCA" at many of its rallies:
Let me surmise further: it's common meme among the left "woke" to defend choice of gender identity and other identities. This guy can't figure out which identity he wants to use, he keeps switching back and forth! Very woke. This is not Republican, you pick an identity and you stay with it.
More seriously and just as interesting: it does seem so far that despite their Senator Ted Cruz, the Texas GOP is not going the way of like AZ, they are anti-Trump sedition and sticking with the more traditional Republican-ism Which is incredibly ironic given their pre-Trump history of a seditionist bent!
Then there's all those pro-Trump Hispanics in the districts along the southern border...
What a crazy state!
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 6:20pm
Josh Marshall:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 1:51pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 2:50pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 6:29pm
uh oh, this could be it, when Newsmax stops supporting your faction, where do you go next?
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 6:52pm
the Newsmax story is indeed a big deal, it's currently the #1 most popular story @ The Hill:
Newsmax anchor walks away from Mike Lindell interview after he won't drop fraud claims
02/02/21 06:27 PM EST
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 9:45pm
current headline @ The Hill: Gulf grows between GOP's McConnell, McCarthy
BY SCOTT WONG AND MIKE LILLIS - 02/02/21 06:41 PM EST
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/02/2021 - 9:41pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 2:04am
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 4:45am
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 4:43pm
this is excellent on topic:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 8:29pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 8:58pm
editor of National Review to Bill Kristol tweet of new video by "The Republican Accountability Project":
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/03/2021 - 9:05pm
Ben Sasse vs. Nebraska GOP:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/04/2021 - 6:39pm
Major major cognitive dissonance and use of opposing culture wars memes even within Trump supporting wing, there is no there there as to any unified message:
at the same time the Marjorie Greene and Matt Gaetz wing is pushing patriotism I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
and Burgess Owens is lecturing Dems on Judiciary about patriotism:
Texas GOP wants a vote on secession from the Union:
Without dear leader Trump's nonsensical babbling at the top, there is no there there, no unifying message.
When your demagogue is silenced by the major communications channels in your society, there is no manipulation and no direction.
Kevin McCarthy should realize the moves like those in Texas and his party in other states censuring the elected of their own party are in direct opposition to what he is trying to do. But he doesn't seem capable of that kind of vision? People like Karl Rove are probably throwing up their hands...
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 2:26pm
The Brownian motion of agendas is why I have been arguing that Trump cannot be replicated by others simply using his modus operandi. Without the black hole of his self reference to pull objects together, they float around randomly in the fluid medium.
by moat on Sat, 02/06/2021 - 4:15pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/08/2021 - 8:31pm
Thune, Murkowski and Rice on Trump vote & Cheney:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/08/2021 - 9:04pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/20/2021 - 1:28am
Red Meat will be served!
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/20/2021 - 6:37pm
Along with the steak sauce.
Each one of these appearances will bum the Trumpsters out. The thing they want cannot be replaced by the thing they selected. The desperation to prop up El Cid is the realization that he is dead.
People grieve in their own ways.
by moat on Sun, 02/21/2021 - 9:10pm
WOW MOAT, look at this, talk about grieving, the poor Pence wing must now give up CPAC! Has had his true home stolen out from under him, will wonders will never cease.
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/22/2021 - 5:07pm
p.s. One of George H.W. Bush's phrases parodied by Dana Carvey just popped into my head: it wouldn't be prudent. Pence is nothing if not prudent. Wouldn't be prudent to associate self, "mother" and family with people that were willing to let us be torn apart by a mob of jackals?
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/22/2021 - 5:16pm
Pence may have the last laugh.
It is going to be a shit show.
by moat on Mon, 02/22/2021 - 7:34pm
you are so confident about that, more than me and I'm the one who was trying to calm down a friend the other day freaking out that "he's coming back!" I guess I agree but I think it will take a whole lot of time to wean the fans to something else as he slowly acclimates to full time staying out of jail until he dies. Did you happen to see Joe's televised statement tonight? I was kind of amazed, it's was like: wow, how can anyone possibly demonize this incredibly caring and extremely authentic character? It was like: greatest president all of all time reporting for duty. I thought: geez he might really be able to win some of the nuts over! New paradigm all around?
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/22/2021 - 7:55pm
I don't think it is about attracting the fans to something else, at least not directly. My argument is that he cannot be replaced, even by himself. The excitement he built upon during his rise in 2015/2016 came from the language of trying something new. His lack of attention to the policy discussions swirling around him was pointing to a shortcut many hoped existed. The stumble fucks in government were preventing easily solved problems to be solved.
So, while there is a lot of skepticism to how much policy can improve things, the magic wand is also suspicious because here we are in the middle of all these outcomes that we were promised would never happen.
Revisions of history can place the blame for bad outcomes here and there but cannot sell something that has failed so spectacularly in such recent memory.
by moat on Mon, 02/22/2021 - 8:25pm
Why Lindsey Graham's peace mission to Mar-a-Lago is doomed to fail
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large Updated 1621 GMT (0021 HKT) February 19, 2021
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/22/2021 - 1:27am
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/22/2021 - 4:39pm
Kinzinger threatens as regards the new drama in Georgia (the country):
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 12:04am
McConnell's plan to deal with Trump: Ignore him
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 2:50pm
Mitch is like a gunfighter from the old west:
"I shot the guy in some town a while back. Why should I go back and do it again?"
by moat on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 3:24pm
Tough old coot. To me more like one of those headmasters in an English novel with rigid principles.Now we shall never speak of him again, come what may. Back to the rules!
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 9:54pm
Whoops, it looks like neither of our analogies are correct. McConnell got back on the clown train after his bathroom break.
by moat on Thu, 02/25/2021 - 7:55pm
Bloody hell Master McConnell, Oh what a tangled web we weave/When first we practice to deceive
A true blue partisan? whichever way the wind blows? what does it matter what Republican party exists when he is gone as long as there is one? At least the wife quit her job, something more than just one lecture.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 1:05am
Dems sucking at roolz too - remember how Byrd killed Hillary are? Well zombie alert, the fucker's still at. Who needs the GOP?
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 6:09am
Hmmm, interesting that Karl Rove still thinks culture warring is the way to to go, even though he's clearly for dumping Trump as General (General Trump one of the greatest culture warriors of all times, but so erratic, mercurial and narcissistic?)
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 10:09pm
Kinzinger blasts Senator Ron Johnson for continuing with the lies in the Capitol security hearing, in tweet 4 hrs. ago
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 10:16pm
Here's a primary challenger for Kinzinger's seat, tweeting an "America First" message against him at nearly the same time, as if Kinzinger is the traitor:
note the Fox News babe dress and style of presentation!
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/23/2021 - 10:21pm
Kinzinger also blasted Tucker Carlson yesterday (and note his use of #Country1st and #restoreourgop hashtags)
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/24/2021 - 5:59pm
helpful moat-style reminder:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/24/2021 - 5:47pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/24/2021 - 9:16pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 9:25am
Four years of the Nunes Effect kicks in.
After not being able to demonstrate how the Liberal State has done any of the things that have been ascribed to it, the congregation has come to either grudgingly accept the rule of their victorious masters or attempt to replace them by force.
by moat on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 9:58am
Makes me think about a chicken-or-egg problem: which came first, CPAC or the "Tea Party"? Was CPAC always representing a populist rabble rouser wing, or was it originally invented for serious conservative policy promotion? (one thing I remember is that it was quite open to the right-wing Christian "family values" culture war against libruls, i.e. Jerry Falwell and that little political activist guy-can't remember his name. But that was at least serious in a way, it went with traditional nuclear family being the foundation of society)
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 10:25am
Ralph Reed is the political operative guy I was thinking about. He was with Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition, not Falwell. Turns out Robertson and Falwell competed, splinter against splinter. Christian Coalition wasn't politically active until 1990 according to wikipedia. I was thinking about Reed because he was actually a very savvy political operative. as opposed to a lot of the bozos leading the charge.
But Fallwell's The Moral Majority was founded in 1979, before Reagan was elected. They were a big "splinter" from establishment Republicanism that helped elect Reagan
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 10:46am
Grifting scumbags . . .
They are all scumbags indoctrinating and shaking down the EZ-Marks...
twitter.com/lrbitisnot/... /952776443674574848
https://i.imgur.com/d06Ytv1.png
~TOD~
by The_Old_Duck (not verified) on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:11am
I think different roosters were involved in the formation of CPAC and the Tea Party.
CPAC did come from policy agendas that resisted changes to public institutions and the loss of privilege seen as the probable result of more widespread equal treatment under the law. So that became one of the platforms of the Republican Party that was not accepted by all of them but was incorporated to give them the coalition they needed to win power. Reagan promoted them but did not try to directly engage with them. The importance of Ralph Reed is his work with GHW Bush to actively meet Evangelists as a self identified member of their congregation who spoke the language fluently. Having Pence along was a way for Trump to scoop up those people and still hit on porn stars. It is a pretty weird development that such a Magog has been cast in the role of an apocalyptic savior from the child eating Libs. A number of old school Evangelists have left the festival but hope to still have the influence they have become accustomed to.
The Tea Party comes from a cognitive dysfunction that appeared after the Reagan Revolution. Those years brought an exponential increase in power to the business community. The change pushed both the Republicans and Democrats to the right in regards to what can be seen outside the Overton window. The Tea Party began objecting to the fallout of that shift but could not discuss the principal benefactors as that would require using the language of class struggle that only the Left can be blamed for. Pinning the tail on the Donkey was combined with the Gingrich purge of any dissidents of the message within his caucus; the Contract on a America was fait accompli.
by moat on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:48pm
I suspected so, you remember these things way better than me, really appreciate the input.
It would follow then that the elite old guard resents the stealing of CPAC by the Trump yahoos.
It is true that it appears as surrender, surrender, surrender. And it only grows worse, now they are selling insurrectionism. I can understand the desire to start a third party after all of that. But that's "losing", Trump really is winning again in a way.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 12:53pm
It could be said that both groups are a victim of their success. Buying into the narrative of a powerful invisible enemy that keeps kicking their ass reminds me of what one Evangelist said while in prison:
"It is the nature, and the advantage, of strong people that they can bring out the crucial questions and form a clear opinion about them. The weak always have to decide between alternatives that are not their own."
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
by moat on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 1:32pm
Grover Norquist extended the absurdities of Reagan anti-government paean to "shrink it enough to drown it in a bathtub", and the meme took as a near literal reality - all you have to do is pull the plug on government and everything will be better, not recognizing the similarities to Liberia and Haiti.
The Tea Party was also an amazing pulled-from-the-wreckage rebranding in late 2008 to disavow any responsibility or connection with them guys who just drove into a wall. Seemingly it worked, so they're trying it again
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 1:32pm
they're doing the old but goodie of Hillary too:
Though most have come to ridicule that as an absurd joke-even some of the Trump fans recognize it as such, I think--it's useful to keep in mind what it really is: an anti-liberal elite message. Hillary is liberal elite, CPAC is 100% populist? No elite Bill Buckley conservatives wanted, i.e., Bill Kristol....get with the populism or begone with ya?
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 11:35am
What we were just talking about but WAY SMARTER thought-provoking commentary! Definitely worth a watch of the 2 1/4 minute preview!
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 1:54pm
This is also a good quick reminder of what Trumpism is really about (I posted the clip on the Ted Cruz thread with a different intro that splains why "Howard Dean" is trending). Tea Party had a little of it too (remember Jesse Ventura getting elected governor?)
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 2:00pm
A couple items of semiology at the current
CPACTrump Political Action Comintern:1. instead of Little Red Book she is selling Yuge Book
2. Comeback kid, they said he was an all washed up, tired boxer, note he has gold, not orange, skin. I dunno what document he is holding
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/26/2021 - 2:18pm
The NYTimes publishes it for the record at this point in time what we all know:
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 3:20pm
meanwhile I think Yglesias is trying to make the "this too shall pass" point here:
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 3:25pm
makes the point well how delusional this type of thinking is:
I myself find I needed that big picture reminder; constantly reading about Trumpie alternate reality spin it's hard not to start thinking it is somewhat valid. For chrissake 2/3 of the country despise him.
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 3:41pm
Being told repeatedly that there are no other options is not much of a rallying call.
by moat on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 4:35pm
Edit to add: note that is a start of a long thread with live reports and commentary from CPAC.
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 4:44pm
Here's Caputo-splaining of McConnell-speak:
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 4:46pm
The King mutters: "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"
by moat on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 4:57pm
Now here it strikes me that Rep. Gozar really gits the "MAGA magic", what resounds about Trump populism and how it could win over many more voters (especially without the alienating presence of the narcissist without empathy)--this is no doubt the WHY of many local GOP people are going against establishment, it's a new narrative and it's certainly not consistent with the GOP of big biz supporting, tax breaks for the rich:
It also conveniently blames the gummint which attracts all libertarian types, left and right.
Edit to add: a reminder that Trump was always pushing for the $2K checks to individuals and not means tested. Was for pumping things up against many in the Congressional GOP. (Of course, he liked it that some opposed it because he could then be the savior king who would be including a letter with the checks taking credit for them, as he did last time.)
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 5:20pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/27/2021 - 11:53pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 1:10am
self-described "snooty establishment type" Tim Miller writes about going to CPAC back then and now for The Bulwark
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 11:46am
I love the bullet points.
I was surprised to learn that Ozymandias wore flip flops. He was hiding in Margaritaville this whole time.
by moat on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 12:33pm
Yeah me too! That fine of a level of stereotyping and profiling is like one of my favorite things! I realize now that is why I loved late 19th-century realist novels, too. I should have married a SNL skit writer, I guess. I too was wondering about the flip flops! (If you're lonely, still alive and unattached in a decade, DO try to get in touch, we could be great companions.)
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 3:51pm
Uh, where were the flip-flops, feeling like I'm setting up a Reagan-era joke...
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 4:03pm
they're on the golden calf statue (created by Mexican artisans, natch)
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 4:12pm
Yglesias clearly thinks the more the public hears from Trump, the worse for McCarthy and McConnell and that Jack of Twitter should call their bluff on that:
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 8:21pm
Yglesias cuts to the heart of this. Everybody appreciated the break from the Trump scat, including the Trumpsters.
by moat on Sun, 02/28/2021 - 8:53pm
after his YUGE highly rated stunning success at CPAC that everybody can't stop talking about, Trump moves on to add Karl Rove (friend of the evil Mitch) to his long GOP excommunication list
and note he also reminds that they would have lost House seats instead of gain them if not for him, not to mention all the GOP Senate seats that he saved from defeat....
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/04/2021 - 11:14pm
Evangelicals divided over support for Trump post Jan. 6:
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/06/2021 - 1:04am
TRUMP BREAKING UP WITH THE RNC!
I think Mary Trump is right that the general idea is he wants to take control of as much of "the money" as he can, including what might go to them. Always keep in mind that he's got no real political ideology, never did.
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/06/2021 - 5:42pm
further confirmation from the horse's mouth that Trump is just trying to steal their donors, it's all about the money and he's not really a Republican by any definition:
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/08/2021 - 9:39pm
there is a serious swing state problem involved with pandering to the Trump crazies; my underlining
What has gotten into Ron Johnson?
By Karen Tumulty @ WashingtonPost.com, March 9
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/10/2021 - 4:52pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/10/2021 - 5:11pm
Maybe I am missing a critical element here but I heard Mitch to simply be saying: Bring it on. If you win the funding war, you are the King. Your move, creep.
by moat on Wed, 03/10/2021 - 7:50pm
I just can't see him getting enough money to do anything real with all of corporate world not wanting anything to do with him and all the expenses and time of court cases. All he's doing is stealing a lot of their small donors,. just lessening the haul. Of course on individual primary races he can do a lot of damage with attacks. But you still got to target those somehow to the voters and he doesn't have free social media.
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/11/2021 - 2:54pm