MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
In just ten months, the United States managed to transform an 82 year-old Catholic nun and two pacifists from non-violent anti-nuclear peace protestors accused of misdemeanor trespassing into federal felons convicted of violent crimes of terrorism. Now in jail awaiting sentencing for their acts at an Oak Ridge, TN nuclear weapons production facility, their story should chill every person concerned about dissent in the US.
Here is how it happened.
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The White House on Friday condemned the "disproportionate" two-year prison sentence a Russian judge imposed on members of the punk band Pussy Riot, found guilty of "hooliganism" for an event mocking Russian President Vladimir Putin.
"The United States is disappointed by the verdict, including the disproportionate sentences that were granted," spokesman Josh Earnest told reporters.
"While we understand the group's behavior was offensive to some, we have serious concerns about the way these young women have been treated by the "Russian judicial system," Earnest said.
At the State Department, spokeswoman Victoria Nuland bluntly urged Russian authorities to review this case and ensure that the right to freedom of expression is upheld."
"The United States is concerned about both the verdict and the disproportionate sentences handed down by a Moscow court in the case against the members of the band Pussy Riot and the negative impact on freedom of expression in Russia," Nuland said in a written statement. Three members of Pussy Riot were found guilty of hooliganism and sentenced to two years in jail in connection to an incident earlier this year in which they mocked Putin during a "punk prayer" in a Moscow cathedral.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:48pm
But government will handle our data responsibly.
Really, we're safer with the terrorists than the people supposedly protecting us. Frankly, who at this point are we even in nuclear threat with, vs. the much more pressing daily abuse of nominal freedoms.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:24pm
Rolling Stone article on how FBI used criminal informer to set up gang of confused Occupy idiots. Even giving them jobs, driving them to work, keeping them stocked with beer & pot.
Imagine if the US government wanted to do something radical, like a workable jobs program.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:26am
The nominee for FBI director should be questioned about his stance on entrapment program like the one described in Rolling Stone.You can generate good numbers on halting terrorism when you provide the means for the terrorism.
The nuclear plant invasion is even more difficult. The vulnerability of the plant was exposed. Security did not stop the group. The charges increased because the hole in the nuclear security was put on full display. The focus could be shifted to the invasion of the plant rather than the fact that real terrorists could now imagine breaching a nuclear facility to do real harm. In one sense, the breach of the plant by the nun and her allies was a public service and a warning.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/13/2013 - 8:33am
Say it aint so, Joe.
by A Guy Called LULU on Thu, 06/13/2013 - 10:24am
The story is striking but doesn't hit me in the way it hits you, not like Lulu's pacifiists story. It's more like this: if no one else will get the mentally ill with violent fantasies off the streets, the FBI idiot terrorist task force might be able to do it. Excerpt, my bold:
Take the FBI out of this story, replace them with local authorities locking up kids in mental institutions for forced treatment, and you've still got a civil libertarian vs. safety of the public story Complaining that the FBI are idiots ends up basically being a distraction from a difficult problem. This kid sounds as harmless as the Unibomber was before he sent his first bomb. The FBI's terrorist task force is obviously not the way to deal with it, but that doesn't make the violent mental illness vs. civil liberties problem go away. Jobs program? More like occupational therapy program for years and years....or society could try the cheaper solution of forcing the ever increasingly popular pyscho pharmaceutical guinea pig method.
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/13/2013 - 1:35pm
Well no, a mental case is a mental case. If they open up the nut ward onto the street, I can probably convince the Stonewall Jacksons and Napoleons to go with me to storm the Bastille/Ft. Knox.
In any case, that was 1 out of 5 idiots, and having a drug dealer/thief handle the FBI recruitment in exchange for govt protection of his crimes? I'd rather have the local establishment locking up the mentally ill in the facilities more or less designed for it, even if not perfect.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/13/2013 - 1:58pm
Where does one draw the line between a sane white supremacist and an insane one? Or the line between a sane Islamist sympathizer and an insane one? Or a sane guy with sick sexual fantasies and and insane one? Isn't it more civil libertarian to look for the ones who are willing to plan actual actions rather than monitoring the speech of all of them?
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/13/2013 - 3:16pm
Yeah, running around with long knives and throwing yourself in front of a car is likely to get you busted or sent to a nuthouse, either one. But not sent away for 50 years for doing something huge and fantastical far past your intellectual pay grade.
I might even be receptive to undercover agents monitoring some of the guys (with court-approved warrant) if it really looked like their wing of the movement was likely to take off & do serious violence - not just spout off 1st amendment speech & position protests. However that would be someone who not only threatens, but manages to get off his/her butt to actually start stumbling towards causing mayhem.
But time and again, we see the fruit of these asshats, and it's simply they're too lazy to go out and find hardcore criminals, or even incompetent but dangerous ones. They have to prop up cripples, put them on crutches or wheelchairs, lead them down the ramp, give 'em a buck to clear their head, and put all the paraphenalia in their hands to then say "busted". Sorry, putting the guy with the knife in jail for his own & society's good until you find something to do with him - fine - he's sick & confused. Creating a WMD fantasy to shove inside his brain far bigger than his own nonsense he's stuck with? FBI agents should be put in jail for this - it's sick. It's just messing with the disabled and pretending to earn their pay.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/13/2013 - 5:08pm