yes, you should click on it, for among other things, there's that Kelly said in a staff meeting
"He's an idiot. It's pointless to try to convince him of anything. He's gone off the rails. We're in crazytown, I don't even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I've ever had."
and
Mattis describes Trump as having the understanding of "a fifth or sixth grader."
and
John Dowd describes the President as "a fucking liar," telling Trump he would end up in an "orange jump suit" if he testified to special counsel Robert Mueller.
Woodward has been a fairly regular guest on the Sunday news show on Fox. He leans conservative and fit in well there. I wonder what they're going to do with this.
and earlier Maggie retweeted this from the Washington Examiner White House reporter as regards their problem:
WH officials are going to have a difficult time dumping on Woodward's credibility like they did with Omarosa & Wolff. He's revered by 99.9% of Washington, respected by folks inside the administration (they wouldn't have spoken to him otherwise), & a household name across America
as well as Jonathan Swan basically saying the same thing
Trouble the White House will have with this book is that, unlike Michael Wolff, Woodward is a serious reporter who makes every effort to get first hand sourcing. https://t.co/scCr0tEgk0
and retweeted same Washington Examiner reporter reporting that Dowd is already denying a quote Woodward has:
NEW: John Dowd tells my colleague @stevennelson10 he was misquoted in Woodward's book. Denies ever describing Trump as a "f---ing liar" or telling POTUS he could wind up in an "orange jump suit" if he sits down with Mueller https://t.co/k4XmPscd8z
Trump's definition of accuracy in news reporting: "Accurate is that nobody’s ever done a better job than I’m doing as president." pic.twitter.com/HDbpennq6I
Trump's comments in exclusive Daily Caller interview:
The Woodward book seems compelling but then so is the president’s detailed rebuttal that he didn’t talk for it, but maybe he should have, but maybe not, but the messages seemed to get lost so what can you do https://t.co/TTHt4kmYQIpic.twitter.com/j9W7ROmn59
So Kellyanne couldnt get Woodward into the Oval Office, but Daily Caller, Fox News, no prob. "You should've called the front desk, Bob, I've got receptionists." Or met him in a parking garage somewhere in DC - Trump likes that mystery stuff.
Aw, they've had their spats in the past but look, they're back working together again on the big stuff:
Carl Bernstein on @CNN calls for WH Chief of Staff John Kelly to resign, and testify to Congress on evidence he has seen that Trump is unfit to lead America.
.@carlbernstein: "This is deadly serious. Nobody should take any kind of comfort from this book or joy at what Bob [Woodward] reports.
[W]e have Trump naked in a whole coherent narrative about his presidency... recklessness... dishonesty... it's a frightening, damning portrait” pic.twitter.com/YwAL30cmTs
Reminds me of that wrestling scene in Brüno where the 2 wrestlers are finally hugging (and the crowd goes wild). I see Bob & Carl in a sauna, making up for past misunderstandings...
Apparently, John Kelly denies the quotes attributed to him in the book. We have direct evidence that Kelly is a liar. We have a visual and audio record of him telling a falsehood about Congresswoman Fredericka Wilson. Kelly’s word cannot be trusted.
he's doing a non-denial denial to give something for Trump to tweet and spin:
Interesting response from @realDonaldTrump Chief of Staff John Kelly. The only thing he specifically denies in the Bob Woodward book is that he called Trump an idiot. Kelly does not specifically deny the other quotes by him in the book. https://t.co/ZWCgfR4kqX
a lot of the White House reporters are basically tweeting right now that he said all those things many times, it's not news, like this:
Not sure what part of the Woodward book quotes Kelly is denying, but multiple current and former officials say they're heard him say "crazytown," "worst job in the world" and something about Trump not listening to him.
That said, whoever promised that any president's chief-of-staff was telling the truth unless under oath? Not a smart expectation to have ever.
In any case, Politico points out how long he stays remains to be seen:
Lots of new details via @elianayjohnson@anniekarni on Kelly’s continued shaky standing, including this gem on how Trump privately framed the news weeks ago that Kelly would stay thru 2020: “It’s good for me through the midterms,” he shrugged. https://t.co/kKzPPXInY8@politico
Poor old Bob, the once respected journalist reduced by an extreme case of TDS to transcribing fake gossip to feed the snowflake/#NeverTrump frenzy. This snowflake fantasy fiction novel will be pumped onto the best-seller list and then go directly to the remaindered book bin at your local Dollar Store.
by Peter (not verified) on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 9:35am
you could be right that the book will not retain status for a long time as a history reference because soon there will be plenty of legal documents to look at with Bob's sources atl identified by name. And it will just be easier to pick up a book with all the names in it rather than cross referencing.
This popped up over at NY Times: "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration"
The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.
Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.
So ... how long you reckon 'til we know who wrote it? That it was published after the Woodward book bombshell is key - it even links to the Times article about key excerpts and quotes from named officials in the book. The Times prefaced the piece by noting that they, of course, know the name and senior position within the administration of the author and that it's rare for them to publish an op-ed from an anonymous writer.
I've watched close-hand how Bob Woodward works and have learned from him for 41years. He is a singularly meticulous gatherer of facts and documents and I would bet my life on his reliability. He is an American treasure
24 years ago, Woodward quoted me in his Clinton book saying all kinds of profane and rude things. Why? Maybe because he’s a Republican. Or maybe because:. I. Said. Them.
but they were creating the whole new war room thing, where experts were paid to spin and Woodward's to deconstruct it and there was no tweeting. (I'm so old that I used to walk to school in a snowstorm sometimes I used to walk 10 blocks just to get a print WaPo to have an alternate analysis from the NYTimes....)
Edit to add: Some day before he dies I hope Begala will apologize for helping create Kelly Ann Conway, however tangenitally.
Woodward: "One key person who's in office called me and said 'Everyone knows what you said here is true. It's 1,000% correct.' And then this person has said some public things that contradict that. And I'm not happy, but I have a smile on my face." https://t.co/wh6SgdDfjQ
1 million copies of Bob Woodward's 'Fear' printed to meet 'extraordinary demand' after topping best seller lists https://t.co/nxmozMVWRi via @businessinsider
Crucial Woodward sources, based on whose perspectives his narrative reflects: Porter, Gary Cohn, Lindsey Graham, John Dowd, Reince Priebus & Steve Bannon.
"I am convinced that people need to wake up and not kind of pretend this is just politics or this is partisan. ... We are at a pivot point in history." @nprfreshairhttps://t.co/gDDK0m9GK5
Only a man who is deeply worried about his own strength would talk as much as Donald Trump does about the danger of appearing weak.
That’s my biggest takeaway from reading “Fear,” Bob Woodward’s new book about the Trump presidency. The scoops were mostly revealed last week. What’s fresh is Trump’s repeated, obsessive talk about weakness during his first year in office.
Woodward’s recounting of Trump’s conversations is a study in character, or lack of it. The president’s vanity, pettiness and meanness of spirit were evident already in his tweets and public statements. But here is the annotated version, as told to Woodward by Trump’s aides, replete with enough F-bombs to stock an arsenal of profanity.
When Trump is on the verge of doing something conciliatory — apologizing for a racist or sexist comment, for example — he stops himself for fear that it will show weakness. Trump (prodded by his Iago-like deputy macho man, Stephen K. Bannon) keeps insisting that he must stay strong, regardless of how unprincipled it may seem [....]
I agree, it is interesting, especially on Russia, he says some young reporter like he was needs to go get the story in Russia, but that they will also probably be risking their life. It's mostly meta on journalism but that is also interesting:
This is the best Woodward interview I’ve read since the new book was released. https://t.co/GUjqbvbNCg
“The White House that emerges from more than 400 pages of Mr. Mueller’s report is a hotbed of conflict infused by a culture of dishonesty — defined by a president who lies to the public and his own staff, then tries to get his aides to lie for him.”https://t.co/yCzsYO6BM7
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this one has CNN using a fun headline:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 5:05pm
yes, you should click on it, for among other things, there's that Kelly said in a staff meeting
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by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 5:12pm
Woodward has been a fairly regular guest on the Sunday news show on Fox. He leans conservative and fit in well there. I wonder what they're going to do with this.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 3:57am
The official pushback so far:
and earlier Maggie retweeted this from the Washington Examiner White House reporter as regards their problem:
as well as Jonathan Swan basically saying the same thing
and retweeted same Washington Examiner reporter reporting that Dowd is already denying a quote Woodward has:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 5:35pm
Also this scuttlebutt:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 5:55pm
Trump's comments in exclusive Daily Caller interview:
An interview about which EmptyWheel tweeted this (and Media Matters retweeted):
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 6:02pm
So Kellyanne couldnt get Woodward into the Oval Office, but Daily Caller, Fox News, no prob. "You should've called the front desk, Bob, I've got receptionists." Or met him in a parking garage somewhere in DC - Trump likes that mystery stuff.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 9:29pm
you're falling too deep into Trump imagination world for even my tastes, I think I'll just stick with reality:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 10:15pm
Aw, they've had their spats in the past but look, they're back working together again on the big stuff:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 9:47pm
Reminds me of that wrestling scene in Brüno where the 2 wrestlers are finally hugging (and the crowd goes wild). I see Bob & Carl in a sauna, making up for past misunderstandings...
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 10:47pm
Apparently, John Kelly denies the quotes attributed to him in the book. We have direct evidence that Kelly is a liar. We have a visual and audio record of him telling a falsehood about Congresswoman Fredericka Wilson. Kelly’s word cannot be trusted.
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 10:25pm
he's doing a non-denial denial to give something for Trump to tweet and spin:
or er, maybe it's not even that, this is a good point:
a lot of the White House reporters are basically tweeting right now that he said all those things many times, it's not news, like this:
That said, whoever promised that any president's chief-of-staff was telling the truth unless under oath? Not a smart expectation to have ever.
In any case, Politico points out how long he stays remains to be seen:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 11:43pm
#crazytown climbing; there's even a "please share" professional cartoon:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/04/2018 - 11:06pm
by Peter (not verified) on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 9:35am
you could be right that the book will not retain status for a long time as a history reference because soon there will be plenty of legal documents to look at with Bob's sources atl identified by name. And it will just be easier to pick up a book with all the names in it rather than cross referencing.
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 10:54am
Much more important to know about than the name calling that's getting all the attention is the Mattis/Assad thing:
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 11:24am
This popped up over at NY Times: "I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration"
So much winning.
by moat on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 5:38pm
Trump's first to last guiding principle is:
1. Is it good for me, and can I get away with it?
by NCD on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 6:39pm
This is big.
eta to add from the piece:
So ... how long you reckon 'til we know who wrote it? That it was published after the Woodward book bombshell is key - it even links to the Times article about key excerpts and quotes from named officials in the book. The Times prefaced the piece by noting that they, of course, know the name and senior position within the administration of the author and that it's rare for them to publish an op-ed from an anonymous writer.
It's big.
by barefooted on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 7:09pm
cross-link to new news thread on The Op-ed
and to Richard Day's related blog entry
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 8:22pm
Bob is most clearly proud when people he has worked with vouch for his accuracy:
and he retweeted this
as well as this
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 8:27pm
Love the Begala tweet.
by barefooted on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 8:54pm
Who knew that saying stuff out loud in front of other people could go so wrong?
by moat on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 9:08pm
Silence is golden for a reason. Ask any retriever.
by barefooted on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 9:18pm
but they were creating the whole new war room thing, where experts were paid to spin and Woodward's to deconstruct it and there was no tweeting. (I'm so old that
I used to walk to school in a snowstormsometimes I used to walk 10 blocks just to get a print WaPo to have an alternate analysis from the NYTimes....)Edit to add: Some day before he dies I hope Begala will apologize for helping create Kelly Ann Conway, however tangenitally.
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 10:29pm
Bob Woodward: Trump thought Charlottesville cleanup 'biggest f---ing mistake I've made'
@ CNN.com, Sept. 5, 8:35 am, article & video discussing what's in the book on topic
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/05/2018 - 9:12pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/06/2018 - 4:42pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/08/2018 - 9:41pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/09/2018 - 11:20pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/11/2018 - 10:00pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/11/2018 - 10:02pm
retweeted by Francis Fukuyama:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/11/2018 - 10:54pm
David Ignatius: What a baby
@ WashingtonPost.com, Sept. 11
by artappraiser on Wed, 09/12/2018 - 12:01am
I agree, it is interesting, especially on Russia, he says some young reporter like he was needs to go get the story in Russia, but that they will also probably be risking their life. It's mostly meta on journalism but that is also interesting:
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/15/2018 - 9:11pm
Same story Bob told in fall:
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/18/2019 - 9:43pm