The city of Miami Beach declared a state of emergency and imposed an 8 p.m. curfew for the entertainment district because spring breakers were gathering in crowds around the city despite the coronavirus pandemic. https://t.co/xlxnORQwCl
After Ron DeSantis declared victory against COVID-19 this week yet again which media parroted, Mar-A-Lago shut down because of outbreak, Florida passed 2 million cases and Miami Beach just issued curfew. cc: @politico@WSJ@CNN
Uhlfelder is the "grim reaper" guy who used to parade around the beach in a death costume. I note he did "@" Politico, CNN and WSJ here, maybe thinking that tho there's little anti-asian-american angle to the story here, there may be a bigger story here soon...clearly has shown himself to know how to divert media attention in the past
By Daniela Flamini • Published 3 hours ago • Updated 31 mins ago
Maybe more social workers would help? Teach young people not to fire weapons around crowds and like stay three feet apart and go home at curfew and stuff? Hand out fliers on how to police oneself? How to get one's recreational drugs delivered and not buy them on the street? All one family after all!
to be clear, the priority is not Covid, but preventing mobs from forming and rioting breaking out, which they have already seen as a tough job even with extra help they are already getting:
[....] "This was not an easy decision to make," City Manager Raul J. Aguila said as he outlined all the measures. "But you saw the photos from last night. It was quite simply overwhelming. It looked like a rock concert: you couldn't see pavement and you couldn't see grass." [....]
"We will be calling a special commission meeting to discuss these measures and decide whether we want to keep them, modify them or adopt additional measures after 72 hours," Aguila said.
Mayor Gelber said he suspected that the volume of this year's crowds had been higher than in previous years due to the fact that "there are very few places in the country that are open" other than South Beach.
Miami Beach Police Chief Rick Clements noted that law enforcement deputies had been having a tough time controlling crowds, despite having several police departments' help.
"We've done everything we can to try and mitigate the behavior we're seeing," Clements said. He said that in one incident on Thursday night, a crowd of hundreds of people had formed a mob and began to use tables and chairs as weapons.
"Property was destroyed," the police chief said. "Then last night, we had three more (similar incidents)." [....]
you can see the potential for that happening just in these two photos from other articles
Must say I think different, as I haven't seen any Portland anarchists shoot off illegal guns in crowds, causing stampedes.
(Though I do have to admit both a protester and anti-protester were carrying in Kenosha BLM protests and people ended up shot and there's a very expensive ongoing trial going on about that.)
Turns out it is racist action; "social workers" were there and they confirm.
Glendon Hall, the chairman of Miami Beach’s newly formed Black Affairs Advisory Committee, said he was on Ocean Drive at the time helping “goodwill ambassadors” guide the crowd off the street, but did not see what led police to use pepper balls. The ambassadors are city employees who hand out masks and help tourists.
Before the dispersal, he said, the crowd was peaceful. Then a Coral Gables SWAT truck drove nearby, and tensions rose. The pepper-ball shots set off panic, and the crowd rushed down the street. Hall took cover behind a tree.
“The truck showed up and nobody knew why the truck was there,” he said. “When we tried to calm things down, that hyped things up.”
If Miami Beach has openly recoiled at the behavior of at-times chaotic crowds filling the city’s entertainment district every weekend, some are having a similar reaction to the way the city and police handled the presence of thousands of people of color. https://t.co/GS3L3B6XRA
Albeit a #pandemic, since it was announced by executive order that #Florida is “fully open for business” then we should be fully prepared with a plan to include CDC & FL Dept of Health guidelines to welcome everyone.
Programming is needed.
— Miami-Dade Branch of the NAACP (@miami_naacp) March 21, 2021
I suspect it's like this: BIPOC need more flexibility on time on curfew deadlines because they have a different, woke, non-colonialist understanding of time, similar to math? You just have to be patient with them, they will eventually get off the streets?
The problem I see is that the police and the borrowed police forces from other localites (and no doubt the "goodwill ambassadors" too?) bill for overtime on colonialist time. That if they have to have lots more duties coming and saving lots more people from killing each other in drunken brawls at 2 am, in addition to their normal (covid era) duties, and the new revelers aren't paying the piper for this and that and instead running out on their restaurant bills and using businesses' chairs and tables for weapons (when their guns have already been taken away by police on overtime), then the colonialists have to pay.
Everyone's entitled to paaaarty eh, even people who can't afford it? Taxpayers pay. Businesses would be happy to pay if you spend more more money than you cost, but that doesn't appear to be happening this year?
The national media will tell you #MiamiBeach issued a state of emergency and shut down because of the crowds and some will lie and say it's because of Covid. That's only half the story. Here are some videos of what is really going on.
Walking out on the bill is SO common during spring break that waiters are now having to chase down patrons and tackle them on the street. Oh yeah and don't forget the women twerking and blocking traffic which happens on every street corner. But wait there's more pic.twitter.com/VMNesqUCkn
From Miami, Florida: But there's more.
Walking out on the bill is SO common during spring break that waiters are now having to chase down patrons and tackle them on the street. Oh yeah and don't forget the women twerking and blocking traffic which happens on every street corner. pic.twitter.com/jRyUcJgozc
Somehow I thought girls fighting would be sexier. I'm starting to suspect mud wrestling may be staged. Man, "yoof of today" muttering. (where's my teef?)
NYTimes story recently filed and just updated. By Neil Vigdor, Michael Majchrowicz and Azi Paybarah; Patricia Mazzei, Christina Morales and Reed Abelson contributed reporting. Updated March 22, 2021, 12:48 a.m. ET
Businesses about 30 miles north, in the city of Fort Lauderdale, are monitoring the developments in Miami Beach. “We’ve been watching it very closely,” Dan Lindblade, president and chief executive of the Greater Fort Lauderdale Chamber of Commerce, said on Sunday evening. “We’ll do everything we have to do to make sure we don’t have the same situation happen up here.”
Fort Lauderdale dealt with similar spring break problems in the 1980s and early ’90s, until the city and businesses decided to make some changes, he said. One major change: Hotels started charging more money for rooms. “We’re not catering to an under-$150-a-night” crowd, Mr. Lindblade said, adding, “We’re $300 to $500 a night, and that’s just a different crowd.”
The effect, Mr. Lindblade said, has been notable. “It’s a family-oriented atmosphere,” he said, “and that’s been great for our economy.”
that says to me that this is not about color as much as it is about economic class! Ft. Lauderdale tourists are and always have been mostly white (though there is a large black neighborhood of permanent residents).
BUT I have mostly seen Miami Beach tourists and residents both include LOTS of people of color from all over the world, but with money!
In both cases, seems to me to be a "riff raff" problem as far as spring break tourists and higher costs does do the trick, as would regulations about congregating too much on the street to avoid having to spend money and things like drinking alcohol on the street.
Ocean Drive is Miami Beach, while known for things like trannie shows and other outre activities, is quite swank and is actually a historic district architecturally. This is all a little like a huge drunken crowd with not much money going and trashing the Champs Elysees in Paris. Miami proper, I am sure has had trouble with trashy college kids raising hell, but I'd really be surprised to learn Miami Beach's Ocean Drive area ever had this level of trouble before.
(I even saw one tweet sort of address that, the guy had just learned about the curfew and he then said "uh oh, I wouldn't want to be living in Wynwood tonite." Wynwood is an artsy avant-garde warehouse type neighborhood in Miami proper, not Miami Beach, that is surrounded by some pretty rowdy Latin neighborhoods as far as partying is concerned. He was obviously thinking they would go there instead once shooed out of Miami Beach. But that is back over the bridge, and those going there would have to get back some way to their hotel if in Miami Beach. Maybe part of the problem is that Miami Beach hotels offered really lots of cut rates right now? And were surprised at the kind of customer they got, paying with their "stimmies"?
And this part counters above about warnings after sunset:
... a formation of Miami Beach squad cars and officers on all-terrain vehicles cruised north on Ocean Drive, working to clear the streets. They blasted ear-drum-piercing sound cannons as a prerecorded message blared from loudspeakers.
“The city of Miami Beach is under a state of emergency,” the message said, playing on a loop. “There is a curfew in effect from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. You are commanded to immediately and peacefully disperse.”
I've been on the length of Ocean Drive, it's really really hard to believe someone saying they did not hear it.
On Saturday, a state of emergency was declared in Miami in response to throngs of unruly spring breakers flooding the city — many of whom were unmasked and not practicing social distancing. https://t.co/6LUOClrFlm
By Tim Stelloh @ NBCnews.com, March 22, 2021, 7:18 PM EDT
Two spring breakers from North Carolina were arrested and accused of drugging, raping and stealing from a woman who died later at a hotel in Miami Beach, Florida, authorities said Monday.
The men, Evoire Collier, 21, and Dorian Taylor, 24, face charges of sexual battery, burglary and other crimes, court records show. They remain in custody; a bond amount was not listed Monday evening.
[....]
Citing police records, NBC Miami reported that Collier and Taylor were seen on surveillance video entering the Albion Hotel on Thursday with a 24-year-old woman. A half-hour later, it reported, Collier and Taylor left without the woman and were later stopped and arrested.
During a bond hearing Monday, a prosecutor said the woman was so inebriated when she entered the hotel that she wouldn't have been able to give consent. It wasn't immediately clear when or why the woman died.
Circuit Judge Mindy Glazer said that one of the defendants acknowledged having given the woman a green pill with the characters "a30" on it but that it wasn't clear what was in the pill and that the toxicology report was pending.
Authorities accused Collier and Taylor of using credit cards stolen from the woman after they left the hotel, NBC Miami reported [....]
Two North Carolina men who traveled to Miami Beach for Spring Break are under arrest, accused of drugging and raping a 24-year-old woman later found dead in her hotel room https://t.co/vh6KYZ3P21
(He's commenting on a BBC article surmising that the recent festivities in Bristol are related to Bristol having a long cultural identity of resistance)
Dude, our sponsors we have certain values that can't be demeaned around here by talking down patriotic sports. WNBA, have at it, but standards must be maintained. Or else. BTW, did you see that Prius halftime commercial l?
Didn't Democrats want Florida to crack down much harder on covid restrictions? Then when they discover the people they are cracking down on are minorities, they seem to do an about face. This is just a weird way to think about the world. https://t.co/5OB8VE1e7u
And then the Democratic mayor of Miami Beach blamed...Ron DeSantis for the chaos, as if he has anything to do with, just because he knows that's the partisan meme of the moment.
Actually, though, who I suspect is ultimately to blame is Miami Beach hotel owners. hungry for any income, who clearly marketed bargains for rooms to a very specific demographic, one that wasn't your usual spring breaker of days gone by.It's hard to believe it was a flash mob rising up out of thin air. But then I'm cynical.
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Uhlfelder is the "grim reaper" guy who used to parade around the beach in a death costume. I note he did "@" Politico, CNN and WSJ here, maybe thinking that tho there's little anti-asian-american angle to the story here, there may be a bigger story here soon...clearly has shown himself to know how to divert media attention in the past
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/20/2021 - 7:02pm
Local NBC tv coverage including video showing an earlier chaotic scene of a crowd running from gunfire on South Beach; also has text report
City of Miami Beach Declares State of Emergency in Response to Spring Break Crowds
By Daniela Flamini • Published 3 hours ago • Updated 31 mins ago
Maybe more social workers would help? Teach young people not to fire weapons around crowds and like stay three feet apart and go home at curfew and stuff? Hand out fliers on how to police oneself? How to get one's recreational drugs delivered and not buy them on the street? All one family after all!
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/20/2021 - 9:11pm
to be clear, the priority is not Covid, but preventing mobs from forming and rioting breaking out, which they have already seen as a tough job even with extra help they are already getting:
you can see the potential for that happening just in these two photos from other articles
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/20/2021 - 9:08pm
New meaning to A Confederacy of Dunces
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/21/2021 - 1:39am
over 900 arrests (and yeah, that includes being handcuffed if that horrifies you)
over 80 firearms seized
at least 50% of arrests are of out-of-state people
the first job of a city government is to keep order
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/20/2021 - 10:16pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 03/21/2021 - 7:01pm
Looks like Portland. Another BLM protest?
by ocean-kat on Sun, 03/21/2021 - 8:54pm
Must say I think different, as I haven't seen any Portland anarchists shoot off illegal guns in crowds, causing stampedes.
(Though I do have to admit both a protester and anti-protester were carrying in Kenosha BLM protests and people ended up shot and there's a very expensive ongoing trial going on about that.)
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:12am
by artappraiser on Sun, 03/21/2021 - 7:32pm
Turns out it is racist action; "social workers" were there and they confirm.
by artappraiser on Sun, 03/21/2021 - 11:49pm
I suspect it's like this: BIPOC need more flexibility on time on curfew deadlines because they have a different, woke, non-colonialist understanding of time, similar to math? You just have to be patient with them, they will eventually get off the streets?
The problem I see is that the police and the borrowed police forces from other localites (and no doubt the "goodwill ambassadors" too?) bill for overtime on colonialist time. That if they have to have lots more duties coming and saving lots more people from killing each other in drunken brawls at 2 am, in addition to their normal (covid era) duties, and the new revelers aren't paying the piper for this and that and instead running out on their restaurant bills and using businesses' chairs and tables for weapons (when their guns have already been taken away by police on overtime), then the colonialists have to pay.
Everyone's entitled to paaaarty eh, even people who can't afford it? Taxpayers pay. Businesses would be happy to pay if you spend more more money than you cost, but that doesn't appear to be happening this year?
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:09am
a brawl video going around before curfew was set:
and waiters tackling somebody who didn't pay:
breaking curfew video:
another, clearly Ocean Drive, packed to the gills after curfew:
more chaos:
she is allowed to say what taxpayers can't
and scat:
challz too (in general, opines on wanting to know who the grownups are going to be and what they plan to do)
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:40am
Somehow I thought girls fighting would be sexier. I'm starting to suspect mud wrestling may be staged. Man, "yoof of today" muttering. (where's my teef?)
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:46am
NYTimes story recently filed and just updated. By Neil Vigdor, Michael Majchrowicz and Azi Paybarah; Patricia Mazzei, Christina Morales and Reed Abelson contributed reporting. Updated March 22, 2021, 12:48 a.m. ET
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 12:48am
this is an interesting excerpt:
that says to me that this is not about color as much as it is about economic class! Ft. Lauderdale tourists are and always have been mostly white (though there is a large black neighborhood of permanent residents).
BUT I have mostly seen Miami Beach tourists and residents both include LOTS of people of color from all over the world, but with money!
In both cases, seems to me to be a "riff raff" problem as far as spring break tourists and higher costs does do the trick, as would regulations about congregating too much on the street to avoid having to spend money and things like drinking alcohol on the street.
Ocean Drive is Miami Beach, while known for things like trannie shows and other outre activities, is quite swank and is actually a historic district architecturally. This is all a little like a huge drunken crowd with not much money going and trashing the Champs Elysees in Paris. Miami proper, I am sure has had trouble with trashy college kids raising hell, but I'd really be surprised to learn Miami Beach's Ocean Drive area ever had this level of trouble before.
(I even saw one tweet sort of address that, the guy had just learned about the curfew and he then said "uh oh, I wouldn't want to be living in Wynwood tonite." Wynwood is an artsy avant-garde warehouse type neighborhood in Miami proper, not Miami Beach, that is surrounded by some pretty rowdy Latin neighborhoods as far as partying is concerned. He was obviously thinking they would go there instead once shooed out of Miami Beach. But that is back over the bridge, and those going there would have to get back some way to their hotel if in Miami Beach. Maybe part of the problem is that Miami Beach hotels offered really lots of cut rates right now? And were surprised at the kind of customer they got, paying with their "stimmies"?
And this part counters above about warnings after sunset:
I've been on the length of Ocean Drive, it's really really hard to believe someone saying they did not hear it.
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 1:56am
16 wild photos of the chaos in Miami Beach:
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/22/2021 - 11:45pm
Spring breakers accused of drugging, raping woman who later died in Miami Beach
By Tim Stelloh @ NBCnews.com, March 22, 2021, 7:18 PM EDT
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 3:48am
Daily Beast tweets arrest photos of the two:
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 4:04am
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 3:54am
Occasionally I'm bothered by how boring it is over here. Less and less.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 5:53am
Probably cause you have plenty of social workers?
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 6:04am
Every time I turn around i hit one with a stick. Wait, how does that saying go again?
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 6:08am
wait, look, here's a socially-conservative Brit REMARKABLY SPOT ON AS TO TOPIC:
(He's commenting on a BBC article surmising that the recent festivities in Bristol are related to Bristol having a long cultural identity of resistance)
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 6:38am
What is so shocking is they don't even have a good excuse for the rioting and destruction like, you know, their team winning the Super Bowl.
by ocean-kat on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 1:42pm
Dude,
our sponsorswe have certain values that can't be demeaned around here by talking down patriotic sports. WNBA, have at it, but standards must be maintained. Or else. BTW, did you see that Prius halftime commercial l?by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 2:12pm
ah but some might argue that the twerking in public is a big fuck you to the racist patriarchy along the lines of the personal is political (And if you're going to bring up the Superbowl, don't forget how Bruce Springsteen is a white supremacist wolf in sheep's clothing)
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/23/2021 - 8:12pm
Touche. No more beating around the bush:
Actually, though, who I suspect is ultimately to blame is Miami Beach hotel owners. hungry for any income, who clearly marketed bargains for rooms to a very specific demographic, one that wasn't your usual spring breaker of days gone by. It's hard to believe it was a flash mob rising up out of thin air. But then I'm cynical.
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/24/2021 - 6:33pm