NEW: Justice Dept. just released horrifying new footage from 1/6. Feds say this is ex-NYPD officer Thomas Webster (red jacket) wielding a flagpole, rushing at police & tackling a cop to the ground. DOJ released this after legal action by CNN and other outlets. (warning: explicit) pic.twitter.com/yf7DQQFMWr
to those of you here (and there were at least 2 of you, I will never forget it) who on Jan. 6 were reacting to my news posting by supporting the idea that the rioters were being welcomed along the lines of "if they were black, they would have been shot immediately", here's your answe
Do capital police not have guns? Why weren’t these people shot?
I'm not a police officers but I have to think when you are outnumbered by that many that a gun would not help much. A lot of people would have died on both sides. As horrible as this event was, I think it would have been far worse had the cops started shooting.
THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE CROWD CONTROL AT PROTESTS, THIS IS WHY POLICE ARE "MEAN" TO PROTESTERS (of all varieties!), SO THAT IT DOESN'T TURN INTO A RIOTING MOB THAT EVEN GUNS CAN'T CONTROL.
You don't even let a large protesting crowd get too angry or too dense. Start there, you start corralling them right away. They don't obey a curfew, you start arresting, clubbing, ETC. Or you could end up with this. Those little flimsy barricades, what a joke. An angry group of protesters would start with that.
I note that some of the cops here are the later DC reinforcements in riot gear, and even they couldn't handle the already riled state of this mob and the proximity they had already breached. It should have never gotten this far, but Capitol police did not expect this, the grounds were not protected well for a breach by masses of people, just had up flimsy little barricades AND FURTHERMORE, more importantly, they are not trained in crowd control. The Capitol building actually does not entertain protesters of any type to begin with, individuals who try it are often ushered out.
The signs were obvious enough that Jan 5 i actually started writing to some DC authorities, forget which, to take this seriously, that it looked like it would be loony. If I can tell that from Europe...
The issue surrounding the difference in response between the Capitol insurrection and Black Lives Matter protests was about the show of force. President Biden noticed the difference.
On Jan. 6, several hundred supporters of President Trump charged inside the Capitol to overturn an election the president had repeatedly and falsely claimed was stolen. They were mostly White, and they roamed freely through the halls, taking selfies and stealing souvenirs, smashing doors and defacing statues, amid sporadic calls to “Hang Mike Pence!” Many shoved and beat officers, one of whom later died.
On June 1, 2020, a crowd of similar size gathered outside the White House to protest after the police killing of George Floyd. They were a diverse group who called for an end to police brutality and racial inequity, and an army of federal agents, assembled after Trump demanded a show of domination, sent them running with chemical agents and rubber bullets.
These two demonstrations, at the most prominent symbols of democracy in the nation’s capital, will define Trump’s legacy, highlighting the divisions he has stoked and the disparate treatment of Black and White people in America by law enforcement.
President-elect Joe Biden said that if the rioters had been a group of Black Lives Matter protesters, they would have been treated “very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the Capitol.”
“We all know that is true,” he said the next day. “And it is totally unacceptable.”
!! ALERT - US Justice Dept has just released new video of mob breaching the police line on East front of Capitol on Jan 6. Feds say accused Proud Boy Charles Donohoe is part of the frontline overwhelming the police pic.twitter.com/qgzQklnE7r
And -- per court docs -- here's the stolen police riot shield being carried by Donohoe & accused Proud Boy Dominic Pezzola. You can hear others in mob in this video express surprise that someone would steal a riot shield... pic.twitter.com/zv7k6QpCVI
MORE new police bodycam video just released by US Justice Dept in Jan 6 Insurrection shows a series of officers overcome by the fog of chemical spray and a menacing Confederate flag in the background
would have been a frigging no brainer slogan if we hadn't had many previous months of breaking curfew, rioting, looting, breaking property burning of police stations and especially: attacking federal buildings by supposed BLM supporters
but no, we couldn't because the left wanted to secede from government too...and buy guns...to protect themselves from the evil police agents of laws enacted by their overlord oppressors, the other guys they share citizenship with...nobody could...everybody riot now cause: we're unhappy, we don't get our way
See, this is why I didn't worry about the commission getting blocked in the Senate. That was political theatre to be honest. They always said they were going to do this. I just hope we get SOME results! https://t.co/Juab489qKR
— Daryle Lamont Jenkins (@DLamontJenkins) June 24, 2021
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to those of you here (and there were at least 2 of you, I will never forget it) who on Jan. 6 were reacting to my news posting by supporting the idea that the rioters were being welcomed along the lines of "if they were black, they would have been shot immediately", here's your answe
THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE CROWD CONTROL AT PROTESTS, THIS IS WHY POLICE ARE "MEAN" TO PROTESTERS (of all varieties!), SO THAT IT DOESN'T TURN INTO A RIOTING MOB THAT EVEN GUNS CAN'T CONTROL.
You don't even let a large protesting crowd get too angry or too dense. Start there, you start corralling them right away. They don't obey a curfew, you start arresting, clubbing, ETC. Or you could end up with this. Those little flimsy barricades, what a joke. An angry group of protesters would start with that.
I note that some of the cops here are the later DC reinforcements in riot gear, and even they couldn't handle the already riled state of this mob and the proximity they had already breached. It should have never gotten this far, but Capitol police did not expect this, the grounds were not protected well for a breach by masses of people, just had up flimsy little barricades AND FURTHERMORE, more importantly, they are not trained in crowd control. The Capitol building actually does not entertain protesters of any type to begin with, individuals who try it are often ushered out.
by artappraiser on Thu, 06/17/2021 - 8:15pm
The signs were obvious enough that Jan 5 i actually started writing to some DC authorities, forget which, to take this seriously, that it looked like it would be loony. If I can tell that from Europe...
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 06/17/2021 - 9:53pm
The issue surrounding the difference in response between the Capitol insurrection and Black Lives Matter protests was about the show of force. President Biden noticed the difference.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2021/blm-protest-capitol-riot-police-comparison/
I will never forget the difference in treatment.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 06/17/2021 - 8:46pm
nice little video clip find from the day!
by artappraiser on Sun, 06/20/2021 - 11:11pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 06/21/2021 - 9:31pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 9:33pm
would have been a frigging no brainer slogan if we hadn't had many previous months of breaking curfew, rioting, looting, breaking property burning of police stations and especially: attacking federal buildings by supposed BLM supporters
but no, we couldn't because the left wanted to secede from government too...and buy guns...to protect themselves from the evil police agents of laws enacted by their overlord oppressors, the other guys they share citizenship with...nobody could...everybody riot now cause: we're unhappy, we don't get our way
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/23/2021 - 11:20pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/25/2021 - 12:46am
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/30/2021 - 4:33pm