The really striking number from this WaPo-ABC poll isn't that 60% disapprove of Trump. It's that 53 percent *strongly* disapprove. A majority. Don't think I've ever seen that of a president. https://t.co/vWLKmkm2D3
The Washington Post-ABC News poll taken Aug. 26-29 might send some tremors through the GOP. President Donald Trump’s approval rating is down to 36 percent, matching his all-time low, and his 60 percent disapproval rating is at an all-time high. (Among registered voters, his approval rating is a smidgen higher at 38 percent.)
Worse still, his approval rating among Republicans is now below 80 percent, and his support among white voters is down to 45 percent, with 51 percent who disapprove. His gender gap is enormous: 54 percent of men disapprove of his performance, while 66 percent of women do. Among independents, 59 percent disapprove of his performance.
Even on the economy, he is slightly underwater (45 percent approve, 47 percent disapprove). Certainly, the upcoming midterms have excited voters, with 65 percent saying they think it’s more important than usual to vote, 31 percent saying they feel about the same, and a mere 3 percent who say it is less important. That might be a bad thing indeed for Trump, if voters are itching to express their displeasure with him.
Voters seem foursquare behind the Russia investigation (63 percent approve, while only 29 percent disapprove); 53 percent say that he has interfered with the investigation to such an extent that it amounts to obstruction of justice, while only 35 percent do not. A majority of Republicans still oppose the investigation and insist that Trump hasn’t interfered with the special counsel’s work [.....]
Finally, a slim plurality (49 percent to 46 percent) already think Congress should commence impeachment hearings.
A new joint poll by ABC News and the Washington Post shows that a shocking 57 percent of women surveyed support the idea of Congress initiating impeachment proceedings against President Trump. Men aren’t as certain, though: Only 40 percent want to tell Trump he’s fired.
This should be a red flag for the president, because while life is improving under his administration, his approval numbers are not. It won’t be enough for him in 2020 just to point to a booming economy. Trump can’t just repeat the line about female unemployment being at a 65-year low. Those are good things, but they aren’t enough [....]
A mere half of President Donald Trump’s core base believes he should pardon his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, according to a poll released Friday amid the fallout from Manafort’s conviction earlier this month and a guilty plea by Trump's former fixer and lawyer, Michel Cohen.
Trump earned one of his lowest approval ratings—36 percent, compared to a disapproval rating of 60 percent—in The Washington Post /ABC News poll. Only 18 percent of respondents signaled they were in favor of a Manafort pardon.
The poll indicated two-thirds of respondents were against a Manafort pardon, including 53 percent who were “strongly” against it [....]
The percentage of Americans who believe President Donald Trump should be impeached is 13 points higher than his approval rating, according to a poll conducted shortly after his onetime campaign manager was convicted of felonies and his former lawyer pleaded guilty to criminal charges.
Asked if they thought Congress should begin impeachment proceedings that could lead to Trump being removed from office, 49 percent of participants in The Washington Post-ABC News poll released Friday said Congress should, while 46 percent said Congress should not.
In contrast, 36 percent said they approve of how Trump is handling his job, and a record 60 percent disapproved, the poll shows [....]
I suspect the Manafort conviction and Cohen pleading guilty to something more than lying to the FBI is what moved a significant number of people on the fence. People may not be following the story or they might not trust the politicians, pundits, or Mueller. But they still trust the court system and a trial by a jury.
While we focus on culture wars, Trump killing the promised pay-hike for millions is huge. This is pocketbook stuff that cuts across his usual well-honed targets - 1/3 gov employees are vets, who we're told are typically GOP supporters. And this was the crumbs from the trillion dollar tax cut for the rich - like pocketing the tip as you leave the Waldorf. Classy.
Combine that with a world-viewed military smackdown of Trump's lack of honor, this has to be Trump's worst week ever. He's pissed in his base's post toasties this time. Combine it with the puzzler of how we made a deal with our "enemy" Mexico but have started a huge trade war with our soft cuddly Canuck near-fellow-citizens - not quite the wall or border people were expecting.
The biggest thing to me is the spike. Opinion polls go up and down - Trump's maintained is base numbers oddly for 18 months - but spikes gather momentum. And it's 60 days out from the election. 36% and heading downwards. He's losing it, and once people stop rationalizing things his way, once the charm's broken, it's not going back - there is no Hillary to flail against now, however much he tries to pump up and parade her cadaver. There's no Ted Kennedy or Tip O'Neill to grouse about - at worst Soros - the right's marginalized their boogie(wo)men, but still the Resistance is growing - more amorphous, just pissed off people tired of 18 months of corrupt incompetent news. Another MAGA hat won't fix that, and the contrast with McCain - a grumpy grousing prick who at least seemed to inject some humanity in his divisive politics and had a decent honorable story to justify where he deviated - has highlighted to more that we've gone off the rails. More than Obama's speech, it's things like Bush sneaking Michelle candy - "this is why we can't have nice things" - for all of McCain's prickishness, doing a few shots with Hillary was the American way, taking the edge off even if not fixing it. But Trump likes keeping us on edge. This time he's going to drop off. (Cue Bible: the fathers have partaken of bitter fruit, and the children's teeth are set on edge. Here comes Gen-Z, post-millennial whoopass/paybacks)
I think and hope you are right! Since trump keeps getting worse and worse in response to all that is going wrong, I don’t see how he can turn it around.
Just popped into my head from reading this: he's looking more and more like Jerry Falwell, rather than Pat Robertson, every day? More foot-in-mouth babble, less comforting conspiracy analyst.
Edit to add: I always thought best counter-tactic, was, to paraphrase Nancy: Just say no to culture wars.
It's not a political ideology problem, it's a lack of education about how our government works. Same thing happened with all the Obamabots thinking of him as a savior, and then giving up on politics when he didn't prove to be one.
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summary of poll @ TampaBay.com, Aug. 31
Trump’s numbers take a dive. Is the GOP worried yet?
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/01/2018 - 8:17pm
an op-ed writer at the Washington Examiner looked at the poll and decided to write:
Impeaching Trump is what women want
by Philip Wegmann | August 31, 2018 10:33 AM
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/01/2018 - 8:21pm
Newsweek writer looks at it and points out
ONLY HALF OF DONALD TRUMP’S BASE SUPPORTS A PAUL MANAFORT PARDON, NEW POLL INDICATES
BY GREG PRICE ON 8/31/18 AT 9:44 AM
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/01/2018 - 8:24pm
And another: DONALD TRUMP IMPEACHMENT SUPPORT MORE THAN 10 POINTS HIGHER THAN APPROVAL RATING: NEW POLL
BY JESSICA KWONG ON 8/31/18 AT 12:16 PM
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/01/2018 - 8:28pm
I suspect the Manafort conviction and Cohen pleading guilty to something more than lying to the FBI is what moved a significant number of people on the fence. People may not be following the story or they might not trust the politicians, pundits, or Mueller. But they still trust the court system and a trial by a jury.
by ocean-kat on Sat, 09/01/2018 - 9:00pm
While we focus on culture wars, Trump killing the promised pay-hike for millions is huge. This is pocketbook stuff that cuts across his usual well-honed targets - 1/3 gov employees are vets, who we're told are typically GOP supporters. And this was the crumbs from the trillion dollar tax cut for the rich - like pocketing the tip as you leave the Waldorf. Classy.
Combine that with a world-viewed military smackdown of Trump's lack of honor, this has to be Trump's worst week ever. He's pissed in his base's post toasties this time. Combine it with the puzzler of how we made a deal with our "enemy" Mexico but have started a huge trade war with our soft cuddly Canuck near-fellow-citizens - not quite the wall or border people were expecting.
The biggest thing to me is the spike. Opinion polls go up and down - Trump's maintained is base numbers oddly for 18 months - but spikes gather momentum. And it's 60 days out from the election. 36% and heading downwards. He's losing it, and once people stop rationalizing things his way, once the charm's broken, it's not going back - there is no Hillary to flail against now, however much he tries to pump up and parade her cadaver. There's no Ted Kennedy or Tip O'Neill to grouse about - at worst Soros - the right's marginalized their boogie(wo)men, but still the Resistance is growing - more amorphous, just pissed off people tired of 18 months of corrupt incompetent news. Another MAGA hat won't fix that, and the contrast with McCain - a grumpy grousing prick who at least seemed to inject some humanity in his divisive politics and had a decent honorable story to justify where he deviated - has highlighted to more that we've gone off the rails. More than Obama's speech, it's things like Bush sneaking Michelle candy - "this is why we can't have nice things" - for all of McCain's prickishness, doing a few shots with Hillary was the American way, taking the edge off even if not fixing it. But Trump likes keeping us on edge. This time he's going to drop off. (Cue Bible: the fathers have partaken of bitter fruit, and the children's teeth are set on edge. Here comes Gen-Z, post-millennial whoopass/paybacks)
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 09/02/2018 - 1:31am
I think and hope you are right! Since trump keeps getting worse and worse in response to all that is going wrong, I don’t see how he can turn it around.
by CVille Dem on Sun, 09/02/2018 - 3:12pm
Just popped into my head from reading this: he's looking more and more like Jerry Falwell, rather than Pat Robertson, every day? More foot-in-mouth babble, less comforting conspiracy analyst.
Edit to add: I always thought best counter-tactic, was, to paraphrase Nancy: Just say no to culture wars.
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/02/2018 - 3:28pm
Here's a bit of the problem in a nutshell, too many think of the role of the president in our system as a fixer:
It's not a political ideology problem, it's a lack of education about how our government works. Same thing happened with all the Obamabots thinking of him as a savior, and then giving up on politics when he didn't prove to be one.
Trump definitely was selling the fixer thing.
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/02/2018 - 6:40pm