MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Russia’s Economic Blackout Will Change the World
By EmmaZahn on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 9:18am |
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https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/03/russia-economic-sanctions-wheat-oil/627004/
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also just ICYMI, the Covid lockdown in Shenzhen is going to fuck with the world economy some more.
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 1:54pm
American society will have to move on from a lot of assumptions it built up because of free trade now that significant parts of the global economy are locked or shut down.
It's a much different situation that the last century. The Soviets were often the ones enforcing barriers, with the West hoping to get in. They starved off Ukraine in the Holodomor and punished other groups with starvation.
The American and Euro right have an awkward fascination with Russia because they at least think that they would much rather be there than in the west that has now embraced its own progressive totalitarianism.
All that Soviet stuff was material, however. In a modern technological age, it might actually be possible to cut someone off from funds and therefore from trading with anyone in any capacity. There could end up being a humanitarian catastrophe for the unfortunate people who find themselves cut off due to the actions of Russian oligarchs and despot and Western elites who never took them in to account when making all of these decisions.
by Orion on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 2:10pm
WSJ doing its best to keep the monied informed of clues of what that new world might be like:
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 3:57pm
Some of the most excruciating people I encountered growing up were what the Right calls "virtue signalers." They were/are progressives who would marry or adopt people from exotic (or what they thought were exotic) parts of the world, speak randomly in conversations in random foreign languages, and talk about being "citizens of the world." Everything they did was some sort of imagined statement that would shut up and put in to place the hypothetical backward right wing neanderthal that they imagine comprised the entire rest of the United States. People like this bolstered gentrification of various urban centers. They were empowered by various high paying tech jobs that made it easy to close off from reality.
You will hear and have heard a whole lot less from such people in a world where the United States has internationally backed off. They'll be forced to deal with the actual world around them. The thing is that, much like how FDR promised for some time to avoid being drawn back in to a global conflict, there might not be much choice.
by Orion on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 4:07pm
here's tomorrow's front page for the perhaps even more popular alternative (be sure to check out the whole-page image, where the Shenzhen story leads right after the fold)
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 6:03pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 6:09pm
meanwhile
and let me just repost Yglesias' chart from a few days ago right here
edit to add, graph from today:
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 9:45pm
Damn Biden, he's ruining our oil profits.
(just getting the 1st kick in on the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" factory)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 4:59am
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/14/2022 - 11:07pm
Hillary did a good one!
Learned a thing or two as Secretary of State.
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 3:29pm
It's also funny, not only Trump still talks about Hillary - so does Putin, even tho she's been retired over 5 years. Quite the lifetime achievement indeed - they came, they saw, he cried.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 3:36pm
one example of enforcement
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 4:35pm
On Israel's play at The New Yorker Daily Comment, what they are up to, by Bernard Avishai (I remember him from the older version of TPM Cafe! circa 2006-7, mebbe)
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 4:42pm
a good example, here's a guy who is hoping the world is changing a lot:
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 4:56pm
FWIW
Also noted that Cori Bush inserted "no to drilling" and "no to buying from states like Saudi Arabia" sentiments in a strong statement of support for suspending energy imports from Russia:
I guess the reasoning is in the meantime, until we get rid of gasoline-fueled cars, we give poor people free gas in their car tanks and farmers free gas in their tractors paid for by whom? Oil companies themselves - price fixing? Or their standard answer, tax the billionaires? Or what? Don't see any suggestions on dropping state and Federal taxes on gasoline, soooo that must mean make the poor continue to pay until nobody can profit off these situations?
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 6:05pm
Nobody's paying attention to Kim, soooo -
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/15/2022 - 9:30pm
hmmm, a coincidence that this video is being tweeted by Reason? probably not:
freedom of self-determination: it's a hot topic worldwide
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/16/2022 - 6:08pm
Fukuyama notes:
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/17/2022 - 12:36am
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/17/2022 - 6:31am
Putin says pro-Western Russians are 'scum and traitors' who need to be removed from society. I actually watched this video in full and it was really indicative of a famous Hitler speech in which he talked about "an international clique" that would move from European city to European city.
Much like the Nazis (and this is often forgotten history unless you've watched Casablanca), Putin has a shadowy mercenary group, Wagner, that includes quite a few Africans. Europe still has a lot of interests there. God only knows what that could all lead to. Also, Wagner is an odd name for a mercenary group if "denazification" is the goal.
What is really honestly shocking and stirring about this is that, whether it was fake and fatuous, Vladimir Putin spent decades as Russian president with a faux diplomacy, always not quite going there in his rhetoric. I remember him describing Donald Trump as "colorful" and saying that he regretted that his relationship with Barack Obama wasn't better. He may have been hiding something much uglier but it's only now that that ugliness has been stirred enough to show itself to this extent.
Also, whoever is telling Candace Owens what to say, it's not Candace Owens:
by Orion on Thu, 03/17/2022 - 1:34pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 7:22am
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 7:26am
Yglesias retweeted
White House Director of the Economic Council:
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 8:46pm
Biden March 16:
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 8:51pm
Hillary offered $30bill to WVa to build to new energy but someone had to play gotcha Calvinball (like the MSM? GOP? Mnuchin?) so the dumb fuckers got nothing waiting for Trump to deliver on his bullshit promises. Sucks to be gullible. Meanwhile 7 years later $5 million is a big deal. Kind of like watching the ruble devalue.
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/21/11278138/clinton-coal-gaffe
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 11:07pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 9:09pm
Much of the developing world will likely take Putin's side. See South Africa: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/18/update-1-s-africas-ramaphosa-blames-nato-for-russias-war-in-ukraine
by Orion on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 11:04pm
And what makes you say that? Does Angola have good vibes towards Russia despite past proxy wars? Even Uzbekistan is refusing to go along. Do Kenyans like Russia? Mozambique fighting off rebels? Uganda with it's economy growing? Moldova prefers Europe. Think Nepal supports colonialist powers? Does Vietnam prefer to keep increasing it's trade or fall back to the 70s? Bangladesh has huge outsource work lifting it's economy - even seem to have control of flood season now. Do they want to suck up to Russia? We may even have a detente with Venezuela out of this.
South Africa's an outlier, go-it-alone grandstanding. We'll see how long this lasts or spreads. Of course Trump & Putin worked a lot on India & Brazil.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 11:18pm
March 2: The UN General Assembly overwhelmingly adopted a resolution on Wednesday demanding that Russia immediately end its military operations in Ukraine. @ newsUN.org
....141 of the 193 member states voted for the resolution, while 35 abstained, five voted against and 12 didn’t vote at all.... by Emily Ferguson @ inews.co.uk
Which countries abstained?
Just under one fifth of member states chose to abstain from the vote to deplore Russia’s attack on Ukraine.
Russia’s key ally China was among them, as well as India, Iraq and Iran.
India and China both previously abstained on a separate motion at the UN Security Council motion, with India reliant on Russia for military equipment, while China’s Xi Jinping has been reluctant to break off ties to Mr Putin as he seeks to rival Western influence.
Justifying his abstention, China’s UN ambassador Zhang Jun said of the resolution “does it take full consideration the history and complexity of the current crisis?”, while India’s permanent representative T. S. Tirumurti called for more peace talks and said he was abstaining “keeping in view the totality of the evolving situation”.
China, which has grown increasingly close to Russia in recent years, says it will not participate in Western sanctions against Moscow.
Which countries didn’t vote at all?
As well as those that voted against or chose to abstain from the vote, 12 chose not to vote at all.
Venezuela was unable to vote because its voting rights had been suspended as a result of unpaid UN membership dues.
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by artappraiser on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 12:41am
I posted that South Africa news 24 hrs. ago (from Reuters 3/17 lunchtime) on the other thread about International reactions. I'll quote what I posted
It is an important news because he blames NATO there, not just lily-livered abstaining for economic reasons like they did at the U.N. but full out anti-NATO, might as well voted against the resolution.
That position that they are dangerous, might have expansive territorial ambitions!
All the more reason to have NATO!
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 12:39am
Putin has friends over basically the whole of Africa and Asia. For whatever reason they appear to be more hesitant in Latin America.
by Orion on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 12:42am
Florida gun store owner arms Ukranians: https://youtu.be/Ay_EQPQ-MUQ
by Orion on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 12:43am
Meanwhile, in Russia: https://youtu.be/8FhGOV7fs64
by Orion on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 1:01am
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 2:15am
meanwhile U.S.'s DIA tells House Armed services that there's been "revolutionary" intel sharing between U.S. & Ukraine:
as in: "revolutionary", as in: we may be doing things differently in the future....
Note head of NSC & Cyber Command basically concurred.
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 2:59am
UN Sec. General:
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 1:39pm
he continues....
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 3:46pm
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 8:02pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 03/19/2022 - 8:55pm
by Orion on Sun, 03/20/2022 - 1:07am
McDonald's closed 847 restaurants in Russia and left.
May be a joke, idk.
by EmmaZahn on Mon, 03/21/2022 - 2:10am
well, they'll have plenty of wheat to make the burger buns if they so chose, though - see NYT food crisis article below
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/21/2022 - 12:36pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/21/2022 - 12:26pm
^ it's a sure thing; skyrocketing food prices and lots more famine allover the world for a while, all you have to do is read his tweets
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/21/2022 - 12:37pm
the question is, what will the world end up with once those guys are done with this project?
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/21/2022 - 2:36pm
listen to the whole thing, not just his excerpt
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/21/2022 - 9:06pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 03/22/2022 - 3:46am
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/23/2022 - 7:16pm
Prime Minister of Estonia
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/24/2022 - 4:41am
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/24/2022 - 7:51am
they make software and believed in its power, but here he is saying: that was an illusion, we still need that good old fashioned hardware
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/31/2022 - 8:53pm