I'm concerned that, without an immediate course correction, Democrats are headed for a wipeout in November up-and-down the ballot. https://t.co/oGAmVYTVV0
If they would have elected you President Michael would never be in this mess now you were so good at getting both sides to work together this country will never know what a great president they missed out on. Thanks for always fighting for the US of a
the Democratic party has already lost a lot of rural districts
You lose the cities and you're really fucked.
Everything is not about the U.S. Congress. And downticket, it's really starting to look like a GOP sweep.
Traditionally, a lot more older conservative people vote in midterms, while a lot of young liberal people don't bother (though they turn out for a BLM protest in the middle of a pandemic to fight police and harass people living in nice neighborhoods or eating at an outdoor restaurant, that they'll do)
President Biden may be struggling nationally, but he is more popular in New York than local politicians like Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, according to a new statewide poll.https://t.co/zGiUp15yjT
“To me, capitalism at its core, what we’re talking about when we talk about that is the absolute pursuit of profit at all human, environmental, and social cost”
I think thinking people believe that we've drawn the line well short of "absolute pursuit of profit at all... cost". Certainly we got rid of child labor, improved workplace conditions, have a retirement age with required contributions to pensions, we have Medicare & Medicaid & the famous Obamacare that require companies of a certain size pay in, and ideally we have some limits on how ruthless & lobsided competition can be. I'm getting tired.
That's exactly what the Democratic Socialists of America believe and she's a bonafide member! She's just talking party line there! They are for true anti-capitalist socialism, not hiding that.
Not only that-I recall about a year ago there was a big brouaha that the DSA took over the entire Dem party of a western state-maybe it was Nevada?-and shoved all the regular DNC people out, who had become a minority. (Which synchs with the "Dems dying in rural areas" story, no actual people willing to even try anymore because the brand has become "toxic")
A significant number of young white activist educated elite are socialists. They've been educated in CRT, are zealots, and it all started with that Howard Zinn history textbook in their tony private high school (he was the big "America is evil" precusor to Nikole Hannah Jones; don't know why their parents kept paying that tuition, but they did.)
The top-performing link posts by U.S. Facebook pages in the last 24 hours are from:
1. Dan Bongino
2. FOX 13 News - Tampa Bay
3. Dan Bongino
4. Ben Shapiro
5. Dan Bongino
6. Ben Shapiro
7. CBS Sports
8. The Political Insider
9. NPR
10. Peachy Sunday
nor is this - this is the culture the majority like to see, again, mho
The suspect sought in a Chicago train robbery has been identified as a Loyola University student recognized by his own mother, who reportedly dragged him into the police station to turn himself in. https://t.co/P6jCfBtaYb
Trump and the GOP represent a danger to democracy, the study says. Democrats must win in 2024, but first they have to reorient on cultural issues and question whether there really is a progressive majority emerging in the country.
Analysis by Dan Bal Chief correspondent @ WashingtonPost.com, Yesterday at 8:00 a.m. EST
Three decades ago, Democratic policy analysts William A. Galston and Elaine Kamarck published a bracing critique of their party, warning against a “politics of evasion” that they said ignored electoral reality and hindered changes needed to reverse the results of three losing presidential races in which the party had won a combined total of just 173 electoral votes.
Now the authors are back, with a fresh analysis of their party. This time it comes in the wake of President Biden’s victory over former president Donald Trump in 2020, but it is an even starker warning about the future than the one they issued in 1989 after Michael Dukakis’s landslide electoral college loss to George H. W. Bush.
“A Democratic loss in the 2024 presidential election may well have catastrophic consequences for the country,” they write, arguing that the Trump-led Republican Party presents the most serious threat to American democracy in modern times. The Democrats’ first duty, they argue, should be to protect democracy by winning in 2024; everything else should be subordinated to that objective.
But they argue that the Democrats are not positioned to achieve that objective, that, instead, the party is “in the grip of myths that block progress toward victory” and that too many Democrats are engaged in a “new politics of evasion, the refusal to confront the unyielding arithmetic of electoral success.”
“Too many Democrats have evaded this truth and its implications for the party’s agenda and strategy,” the authors add. “They have been led astray by three persistent myths: that ‘people of color’ think and act in the same way; that economics always trumps culture; and that a progressive majority is emerging.”
Galston and Kamarck served in the Clinton administration, and Kamarck is a long-standing member of the Democratic National Committee. Both are scholars at the Brookings Institution, and their new study is published on the website of the Progressive Policy Institute, where they are contributing authors.
Their analysis is a centrist critique of a party that they fear has moved too far to the left and in the process increasingly has lost touch with the swing voters who still have the power to decide elections. Its publication comes a week after voters in San Francisco recalled three members of the local school board in a battle that underscored the limits of left-wing politics even in such a liberal city and an outcome that set off alarms inside the party.
Galston and Kamarck argue that in an age of close elections (five of the past six were decided by five points or fewer), mobilizing base voters is not enough to assure success. “Even though deepening partisanship has reduced the number of swing voters, the narrow margins of our recent national elections have made these voters more important than ever,” they write. “This reality will dominate national politics until one party breaks the deadlock of the past three decades and creates a decisive national majority.”
The authors are especially pointed in their analysis of Democrats’ vulnerabilities on cultural issues. They argue that too many Democrats continue to believe that economic issues “are the ‘real’ issues and that cultural issues are mostly diversions invented by their adversaries for political purposes.” But for many voters, cultural and religious issues are more important than economic issues, and for those voters, those issues “reflect their deepest convictions and shape their identity.”
Trump’s appeals on cultural issues, and his anti-immigrant and nationalist posture moved voters in states with a higher-than-average percentage of White working-class voters, especially Ohio and Iowa, to the point that they are now difficult for Democrats to win presidentially. “And it has made the upper Midwest fiercely competitive, a face-off that is likely to persist until the battle lines between the parties are redrawn,” the study says.
Democrats, they argue, must balance appeals to their base voters with a message that also appeals to enough working-class voters to win elections. In 2020, Biden was able to do that, but Galston and Kamarck argue that success “must not blind Democrats to the fact that these voters often have found Republicans’ cultural claims more persuasive than the Democrats’ economic arguments.”
Galston and Kamarck have joined what is a rising debate within the Democratic Party about the road ahead, and while they offer recommendations from their centrist perspective, others see economic issues as still the core of the party’s message and agenda [....]
I found that tweeted by Frank Luntz:who stresses the lost of Black and Hispanic working class support:
“Today, the Democrats’ working-class problem isn’t limited to white workers. The party is also losing support from working-class Blacks and Hispanics.” https://t.co/Yhiwv7GKzh
Another example of what they are talking about happened today in Wisconsin. The GOP legistature passed a whole bunch of anti-woke and parent-power bills as regards public education plus one breaking up the poorly performing Milwaukee Public School district which has long been an activist parents vs. teachers union wish. All bills passed. As this article explains, they know that these moves are popular and they also know Dem Governor Evers (especially as an ex-educator and public school administrator) will veto them. They of course plan to run talking about how he, the Democrat, vetoed what the people want. And they also hope this will cause Evers to lose his race to get re-elected, in which case their bills would no longer be vetoed (you might recall the infamous Scott Walker preceded Gov. Evers)
Democratic outrage is continuing ahead of the Assembly session where over a dozen education bills will see likely passage, including bills banning CRT, allowing substitutes for diversity classes, breaking up Milwaukee Public Schoolshttps://t.co/gcQzla4wkq
A while back, I read a FB thread (it was before I got off of Facebook) where the state of San Francisco was brought up. Someone just screamed "I don't know what you're talking about!" Someone else just said "I don't see the world the way you do!"
I think some of this is fear of the unknown. These problems are undeniable but the right wing that progressives figured out how to counter doesn't really exist anymore. Progressive elites don't know how to process that people in Oakland, CA, where blacks have been gentrified out of their homes, hate them enough to mug them, so it's easier to double down on the evil we do know - white nationalists, Russia, etc. - instead of trying to figure out the ones that are uncertain.
Yup. Especially accurate on the west coast, from what I read. I like to call it "denial is not a river in Egypt."
Also, I was there when we went through this whole thing after Dukakis lost and with Bill Clinton and friends inventing the "third way" DLC to counter the libruls (no "progressives" back then). I didn't think of it as such an exact comparison until I read this article. The issues were a different mix, but the politics are basically the same.
SF is pretty bad. I have met a great deal of right leaning people there. A lot of working and middle class people finding themselves in subsidized apartments, with the little extra cash they have over their homeless neighbors only making them a target of envy and extortion. I lived in one such project once and someone tried to choke me out after saying they "need a loan."
Don't know the exact thing Nate Silver was talking about here because Lopez deleted his tweet, however Nate's followup and the comments indicate something about Covid issues driving the recall election, however Nate's follow up tweet makes it clear it doesn't matter as to the bigger point he was making
It's sometimes underappreciated how unpopular certain liberal positions are *even among liberals*. https://t.co/EizLB9baTa
There are some disputes in the comments about precisely *which* unpopular liberal positions were most important in the recall, which don't really serve to rebut the thesis.
I'm calculating the GOP is going to gain ~5 pts on the generic ballot when we go from registered to likely voters (i.e. GOP ahead ~7 points) based on what I'm seeing in enthusiasm (very high for the GOP) in the polls and history (since 78). https://t.co/hsaMrrgp7J
WTF?! Af first sounds like a real messy civil war.
Brooklyn Dems have appointed a former Republican as party director. Activists are troubled by tweets they believe are his that signal support for Trumpian conspiracy theories https://t.co/ggDTatXHuPpic.twitter.com/6gbVCWs1v0
But, as stated in the article, some of the tweets progressives are using to attack him are kind of ambiguous as to meaning
ALSO then I remember Eric Adams was last Brooklyn Borough President, and he may have something to do with this. And then back when he was a State Senator something about how he worked very closely with Republicans (maybe even thought of running as one? Anyhow I see this via googling
By Nick Reisman City of Albany PUBLISHED 1:38 PM ET Nov. 17, 2021
For eight long years, Mayor Bill de Blasio would trek to Albany for a chilly reception — and not just from his rival Andrew Cuomo.
Republicans in the state Senate, who held and then lost power in the chamber during de Blasio's tenure, had a frosty relationship with the New York City mayor after benefitting from the campaign largesse of his predecessor, Michael Bloomberg. Now, with Mayor-elect Eric Adams and his calls to make further changes to the state's bail laws, Republicans hope they have a new ally in City Hall.
Or, at the very least, they hope he won't be an enemy.
The olive branch, first reported by The New York Post this week, came from Minority Leader Robert Ortt, who seized on Adams' call for changing the bail laws that have become a focal point of the criminal justice debate in Albany [....]
Here's our thread of videos from tonight's disruption. Please take the time to listen to these videos. We are here to voice the concerns of the people. And we will NOT go quietly. Fuck the pigs. Abolish the police. https://t.co/VRaw5Tx790
— People's City Council - Los Angeles (@PplsCityCouncil) February 23, 2022
Buscaino was elected to the 15th district on January 17, 2012 to fill the vacancy left by Janice Hahn, following her successful bid for the U.S. House of Representatives.[3] Buscaino was re-elected on March 5, 2013, to a full four-year term with 83.09% of the vote,[4] the largest margin of victory since at least 1996 for a competitive Los Angeles City Council race.[5] On March 7, 2017, Buscaino won re-election again with 74.85% of the vote.[6] [....]
P.S. It should be noted that the progressive candidate has apparently done a Sister Souljah on those protesters?
This is "progressive" candidate @KarenBassLA, comparing people protesting LAPD criminalization of homelessness to white supremacists rioting for Trump: https://t.co/DqlUcOQPTv
The comparison with Jan. 6 is not at all bad, while hyperbolic, after all they are trying to impede a televised debate that is part of the democratic process
Homelessness is quite literally sanctioned and promoted in many major cities. The city will give you nearly $1000 a month, food stamps and subsidized housing often requires that tenants be homeless for six months to qualify, instead of being based on low income.
Maybe. It seems to me like Democrats just dominate so much that they have several sectors. I don't see them losing anything any time soon. All this Putin stuff makes a Trump resurgence unlikely.
The Republican Party has a really hard time appealing to anyone who isn't upper middle class, white and male and there's not much they could really ever do to change that. They win elections by just pulling a couple single digits from other demographics. I've met people who listen to right wing talk radio and still vote Dem. That's how bad it is.
The GOP has Hispanics big time - especially Texas - we've discussed quite a bit.
If those are "white", well, the Dems made a horrid calculation in uncontrolled Mexican immigration the last 30 years.
at the federal level what you say maybe true-because there's so GOP many asshats doing performance art, that ends up on social media talk radio and voters may like the performance but when it comes down to getting in that voting booth, they go for the quieter guy
BUT take it down to people voting for their state legislators or city councilmember, oftener than not, it's the GOP guy and not the librul Dem (raging about Palestinians or the like) who seems more practical and level-headed and sounds like he is going to care about the bodega owner concerns about taxes, the pot holes in the roads, and how the kids are educated;;;
Federal reps have very little effect on people's lives, it's more just a kabuki show. Which guy or gal's kabuki show they enjoy, that's it. For that a trillion tax dollars are spent, and local GOP make hay out of that, too. Here I think of my own Bronx neighbors and Long Island people. Lots of them really don't trust elite white liberals to do the right thing, really they don't. There are major effects to the national picture in just that once a state legislature is GOP majoriity, they gerrymander to benefit the GOP in the national offices, when that might not be the case if the districts weren't changed.
In CA it appears to be like how you describe the federal level. You will hear right wing radio playing in Uber cars fairly often and then Newsom wins in a landslide. He literally ran against a right wing talker.
AOC thinks canceling student loan debt is the way to win
“I can’t underscore how much the hesitancy of the Biden admin to pursue student loan cancelation has demoralized a very critical voting bloc that the President, House & Senate need in order to have any chance of preserving any of our majorities,” @AOC. https://t.co/FZJfQ7kOB4
I'm no expert political analyst and I'm sure she's right that would inspire those affected to get out and vote for the Dem in their district. I'm just not sure that's every district needed. BUT what I'm pretty sure of that it would also inspire a lot of backfire voting by people extremely angry that their taxes are going to pay to bail out these loans while they and their kids worked scrimped and saved to pay their own tuition at lesser colleges without loans.
I do get the sense that she's kind of clueless about swing districts. And I trust Joe Biden for one to understand them better.
Or non-college families seeing college grads get huge bailouts
Most borrowers have between $25,000 and $50,000 outstanding in student loan debt. But more than 600,000 borrowers in the country are over $200,000 in student debt, and that number may continue to increase.
Though I was surprised avg debt and % of residents with debt were relatively close across states & regions
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Dems want to win, the leaders have to publicly Sister Souljah The Woke; it may be too late though.
Check out the replies on Twitter, such as
If you don't like Bloomberg, listen to Jim Clyburn....
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 9:44am
A reminder about the last related thread
‘THE BRAND IS SO TOXIC’: DEMS FEAR EXTINCTION IN RURAL US
the Democratic party has already lost a lot of rural districts
You lose the cities and you're really fucked.
Everything is not about the U.S. Congress. And downticket, it's really starting to look like a GOP sweep.
Traditionally, a lot more older conservative people vote in midterms, while a lot of young liberal people don't bother (though they turn out for a BLM protest in the middle of a pandemic to fight police and harass people living in nice neighborhoods or eating at an outdoor restaurant, that they'll do)
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 9:43am
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 10:07am
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 10:11am
Oh God, gag me.
I think thinking people believe that we've drawn the line well short of "absolute pursuit of profit at all... cost". Certainly we got rid of child labor, improved workplace conditions, have a retirement age with required contributions to pensions, we have Medicare & Medicaid & the famous Obamacare that require companies of a certain size pay in, and ideally we have some limits on how ruthless & lobsided competition can be. I'm getting tired.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 11:58am
That's exactly what the Democratic Socialists of America believe and she's a bonafide member! She's just talking party line there! They are for true anti-capitalist socialism, not hiding that.
Not only that-I recall about a year ago there was a big brouaha that the DSA took over the entire Dem party of a western state-maybe it was Nevada?-and shoved all the regular DNC people out, who had become a minority. (Which synchs with the "Dems dying in rural areas" story, no actual people willing to even try anymore because the brand has become "toxic")
A significant number of young white activist educated elite are socialists. They've been educated in CRT, are zealots, and it all started with that Howard Zinn history textbook in their tony private high school (he was the big "America is evil" precusor to Nikole Hannah Jones; don't know why their parents kept paying that tuition, but they did.)
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 12:21pm
not unrelated, mho:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 11:13am
nor is this - this is the culture the majority like to see, again, mho
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 11:18am
Democrats are engaged in a ‘new politics of evasion’ that could cost them in 2024, new study says
Trump and the GOP represent a danger to democracy, the study says. Democrats must win in 2024, but first they have to reorient on cultural issues and question whether there really is a progressive majority emerging in the country.
Analysis by Dan Bal Chief correspondent @ WashingtonPost.com, Yesterday at 8:00 a.m. EST
I found that tweeted by Frank Luntz:who stresses the lost of Black and Hispanic working class support:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 11:50am
Another example of what they are talking about happened today in Wisconsin. The GOP legistature passed a whole bunch of anti-woke and parent-power bills as regards public education plus one breaking up the poorly performing Milwaukee Public School district which has long been an activist parents vs. teachers union wish. All bills passed. As this article explains, they know that these moves are popular and they also know Dem Governor Evers (especially as an ex-educator and public school administrator) will veto them. They of course plan to run talking about how he, the Democrat, vetoed what the people want. And they also hope this will cause Evers to lose his race to get re-elected, in which case their bills would no longer be vetoed (you might recall the infamous Scott Walker preceded Gov. Evers)
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 8:00pm
Artappraiser,
I love the term "politics of evasion."
A while back, I read a FB thread (it was before I got off of Facebook) where the state of San Francisco was brought up. Someone just screamed "I don't know what you're talking about!" Someone else just said "I don't see the world the way you do!"
I think some of this is fear of the unknown. These problems are undeniable but the right wing that progressives figured out how to counter doesn't really exist anymore. Progressive elites don't know how to process that people in Oakland, CA, where blacks have been gentrified out of their homes, hate them enough to mug them, so it's easier to double down on the evil we do know - white nationalists, Russia, etc. - instead of trying to figure out the ones that are uncertain.
by Orion on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 8:11pm
Yup. Especially accurate on the west coast, from what I read. I like to call it "denial is not a river in Egypt."
Also, I was there when we went through this whole thing after Dukakis lost and with Bill Clinton and friends inventing the "third way" DLC to counter the libruls (no "progressives" back then). I didn't think of it as such an exact comparison until I read this article. The issues were a different mix, but the politics are basically the same.
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 8:21pm
SF is pretty bad. I have met a great deal of right leaning people there. A lot of working and middle class people finding themselves in subsidized apartments, with the little extra cash they have over their homeless neighbors only making them a target of envy and extortion. I lived in one such project once and someone tried to choke me out after saying they "need a loan."
by Orion on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 5:46pm
Don't know the exact thing Nate Silver was talking about here because Lopez deleted his tweet, however Nate's followup and the comments indicate something about Covid issues driving the recall election, however Nate's follow up tweet makes it clear it doesn't matter as to the bigger point he was making
And here's Harry Enten:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 8:36pm
WTF?! Af first sounds like a real messy civil war.
But, as stated in the article, some of the tweets progressives are using to attack him are kind of ambiguous as to meaning
ALSO then I remember Eric Adams was last Brooklyn Borough President, and he may have something to do with this. And then back when he was a State Senator something about how he worked very closely with Republicans (maybe even thought of running as one? Anyhow I see this via googling
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/22/2022 - 9:06pm
It seems Joe Biden thinks that Russia/Ukraine is a bigger deal than anything happening out here.
by Orion on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 2:00am
Orion - pls put a lede on clips like this - i hate clicking in link's with no context
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 1:06am
Okay no problem.
by Orion on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 1:59am
Protestors Disrupt LA Mayoral Debate, One Rushes Stage
By CBSLA Staff February 22, 2022 at 7:42 pm
The first video they offer, the protester is attacking candidate Joe. This is Joe; he is a DEMOCRAT and the district he represents since 2012 includes Watts & San Pedro:
Maybe Putin is funding The People's City Council?
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 2:28am
P.S. It should be noted that the progressive candidate has apparently done a Sister Souljah on those protesters?
The comparison with Jan. 6 is not at all bad, while hyperbolic, after all they are trying to impede a televised debate that is part of the democratic process
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 2:39am
Homelessness is quite literally sanctioned and promoted in many major cities. The city will give you nearly $1000 a month, food stamps and subsidized housing often requires that tenants be homeless for six months to qualify, instead of being based on low income.
by Orion on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 3:23pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 2:09pm
In the old days it was the Republicans that did this
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 2:58pm
There are none available. They're all on the couch.
That was a joke. I was kidding. :P
by Orion on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 3:18pm
yeah, everyone still pretends there are only 2 main parties, but there are really 4.
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 9:08pm
Maybe. It seems to me like Democrats just dominate so much that they have several sectors. I don't see them losing anything any time soon. All this Putin stuff makes a Trump resurgence unlikely.
The Republican Party has a really hard time appealing to anyone who isn't upper middle class, white and male and there's not much they could really ever do to change that. They win elections by just pulling a couple single digits from other demographics. I've met people who listen to right wing talk radio and still vote Dem. That's how bad it is.
by Orion on Wed, 02/23/2022 - 10:11pm
The GOP has Hispanics big time - especially Texas - we've discussed quite a bit.
If those are "white", well, the Dems made a horrid calculation in uncontrolled Mexican immigration the last 30 years.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/24/2022 - 3:15am
at the federal level what you say maybe true-because there's so GOP many asshats doing performance art, that ends up on social media talk radio and voters may like the performance but when it comes down to getting in that voting booth, they go for the quieter guy
BUT take it down to people voting for their state legislators or city councilmember, oftener than not, it's the GOP guy and not the librul Dem (raging about Palestinians or the like) who seems more practical and level-headed and sounds like he is going to care about the bodega owner concerns about taxes, the pot holes in the roads, and how the kids are educated;;;
Federal reps have very little effect on people's lives, it's more just a kabuki show. Which guy or gal's kabuki show they enjoy, that's it. For that a trillion tax dollars are spent, and local GOP make hay out of that, too. Here I think of my own Bronx neighbors and Long Island people. Lots of them really don't trust elite white liberals to do the right thing, really they don't. There are major effects to the national picture in just that once a state legislature is GOP majoriity, they gerrymander to benefit the GOP in the national offices, when that might not be the case if the districts weren't changed.
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/24/2022 - 8:58am
In CA it appears to be like how you describe the federal level. You will hear right wing radio playing in Uber cars fairly often and then Newsom wins in a landslide. He literally ran against a right wing talker.
by Orion on Fri, 02/25/2022 - 6:00pm
AOC thinks canceling student loan debt is the way to win
I'm no expert political analyst and I'm sure she's right that would inspire those affected to get out and vote for the Dem in their district. I'm just not sure that's every district needed. BUT what I'm pretty sure of that it would also inspire a lot of backfire voting by people extremely angry that their taxes are going to pay to bail out these loans while they and their kids worked scrimped and saved to pay their own tuition at lesser colleges without loans.
I do get the sense that she's kind of clueless about swing districts. And I trust Joe Biden for one to understand them better.
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/24/2022 - 11:55am
Or non-college families seeing college grads get huge bailouts
Though I was surprised avg debt and % of residents with debt were relatively close across states & regions
https://www.valuepenguin.com/average-student-loan-debt
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/24/2022 - 12:19pm