Washington Post contributor Eric Habert sent this dispatch from Belleville, Ill.:
Dale Walsh, a friend of James T. Hodgkinson’s, said Wednesday that Hodgkinson was passionate about his beliefs but always appeared to be “in control.” He said he thinks Hodgkinson was “pretty well fed up” with the political situation, but he said the news of the shooting was a shock.
“I guess I just want to let people know that he’s not evil,” Walsh said outside Hodgkinson’s home in Belleville, Ill. “I guess he was tired of some of the politics going on. Like in this state, we have politicians collecting a check and doing absolutely nothing for us.”
Walsh said Hodgkinson once worked as a home builder and later had a home inspection business. “To me, he was just a nice guy,” Walsh said.
The Illinois man suspected of firing dozens of rounds at a Congressional baseball practice in Alexandria Wednesday morning was highly critical of President Trump and other Republican leaders on social media, and had volunteered for the presidential campaign of Democrat Bernie Sanders.
Law enforcement officials were still investigating what motivated James T. Hodgkinson, 66, whose attack injured five people, including a GOP lawmaker and two Capitol police officers.
Hodgkinson, who died after a shootout with police, worked as a home inspector and lived with his wife in Belleville, a suburb of St. Louis. But he appeared to have stayed in the Alexandria area for at least the last six weeks, according to former Alexandria mayor Bill Euille and one other man. As Hodgkinson’s photo circulated in the news Wednesday, both men said they realized they had encountered Hodgkinson regularly at the local YMCA across the street from the baseball field.
In a series of letters to his local newspaper, Hodgkinson repeatedly blasted Republican lawmakers for favoring the “super rich.” A Facebook page believed to be his features pictures of Sanders, and anti-Trump rhetoric, including a recent post that reads: “Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It’s Time to Destroy Trump & Co.”
The Republican lawmaker who represented Hodgkinson’s hometown said he was “always angry” about the GOP agenda, but “never crossed the line.”
Hodgkinson contacted the office of Rep. Mike Bost (R-Ill.) 14 times through email or telephone.
“Every issue that we were working on, he was not in support of,” Bost said, saying the communications were of a left-wing slant but delivered “never with any threats, only anger.”
[.....]
Charles Orear, 50, a restaurant manager from St. Louis said he became friendly with Hodgkinson during their work together in Iowa on Sanders’s 2016 campaign. Orear said Hodgkinson was a passionate progressive and showed no signs of violence or malice toward others.
“You’ve got to be kidding me,” Orear said when told by phone about the shooting.
Orear described Hodgkinson as a “quiet guy” who was “very mellow, very reserved” when they stayed overnight at the home of a Sanders supporter in Rock Island, Ill., after canvassing for the Vermont senator.
“He was this union tradesman, pretty stocky, and we stayed up talking politics,” he said. “He was more on the really progressive side of things.” [....]
The difference between Sandy Hook and the Congressmen is protection by a Congressional security team and Capitol police. The people at Sandy Hook died.
In 1960 my old next door neighbor Rod Serling wrote about this type of mass parnonia.
"They pick the most dangerous enemy they can find and it's themselves..."
"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and
explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts,
attitudes, prejudices – to be found only in the minds of men. For the
record, prejudices can kill – and suspicion can destroy – and a
thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of
its own – for the children – and the children yet unborn. And the pity
of it is – that these things cannot be confined – to the Twilight Zone."
It's ok Richard. If I just posted 104 duplicate comments I'd be so worn out I'd crash for 6 hours too. That's just the cost of going for the gold. I think your new record will stand for a long time. Good job!
still, politically or ideologically motivated violent mass attacks are different in that they are intended to have an effect on all those that live on
whereas some are just clearly either the "15 minutes of fame" thing operating (giving the attacker a sense of power in face of what we mock as "existential pain") or just mad as hell and not going to take it anymore, want to hurt people ("gone postal")
I think the first can properly be labeled terrorism as it is meant to terrorize the living into changing something...
p.s. saying that, popped into my mind how often war these days uses terrorism of the population at large where it used to supposedly have "gentleman's rules" of a duel between nation states or factions. Follows where those mass attacker categories can cross over: the power of high-power weapons makes the attacker feel he has the power of like a nation state. And this is at the heart of the argument of a lot of First Amendment people, that they give civilians power. should the jackboots come. Was one of former dagblog member Resistance's favorite pro-NRA arguments. One would counter: your stupid automatic weapon is useless against a tank or bombs dropped from a plane. And it wouldn't matter because an automatic weapon gives a sense of power or confidence against a well-armed adversary. And what I gleaned from that: the weakest point of NRA type arguments is the handgun. They don't really have a strong Constitutional argument for concealed handguns. It's just about a feeling of manhood or security. And handguns do the most damage of useless deaths in this country.
On the gun regulation issue. The new Washington Post article on the shooter, from which I have excerpted on his angry politics upthread, is also very good on the gun topic. A picture is clearly drawn of someone who can't control their anger, how that does not mix with guns. (The Gabbie Giffords shooting was not the same, that was with a known mental illness history, should be easier to deny registration.) This guy clearly just had an anger management problem, and also happened to be a passionist progressive. But a history of uncontrolled anger is the clear problem; from the second half of the article
Law enforcement officials arrived at his home in a rural community southeast of St. Louis shortly after 11:30 a.m. The modest, rectangular clapboard farm house sits amid fields of young corn and budding soy.
Neighbors said Wednesday that Hodgkinson put his motorcycle up for sale in recent months. One neighbor, a man in jeans and a straw cowboy hat who declined to give his name, said Hodgkinson has not lived at the house for “quite a while.”
His wife, a receptionist at a local accounting office in Belleville, told neighbors in April that he was planning to retire from his home inspection business, they said. Employees at the accounting office declined to comment Wednesday, and said that his wife was gone for the day.
Over the years, Hodgkinson has had multiple scrapes with local police and disputes with neighbors and his daughter, records show.
Police most recently encountered Hodgkinson on March 24, records from the St. Clair County Sheriff show. The sheriff received a phone call reporting about 50 shots “in the pine trees” in a lightly populated area near Belleville.
A deputy responded shortly after 3:05 p.m. and found that Hodgkinson “did have in his possession a valid Illinois FOID [firearms owner identification] card,” and that the deputy advised Hodgkinson “to not discharge his weapon in the area.”
Hodgkinson apparently complied and the deputy left without taking any further action.
Karman and Bill Schaumleffel, neighbors across a small cornfield on the back edge of the Hodgkinson property, recalled seeing a man shooting a rifle out into the field about two or three months ago. The shots followed in a rapid, steady staccato as if, they said, from a semiautomatic rifle. The Schaumleffels said Hodgkinson kept to himself.
Earlier, in April 2006, police records show Hodgkinson went to a neighbor’s house looking for his daughter and “used bodily force to damage” a wooden door upstairs. Witnesses said Hodgkinson forced his way into the home looking for his daughter and grabbed her by the hair when he found her upstairs, according to a police narrative on file with St. Clair County Sheriff’s Department.
His daughter escaped and got into the neighbor’s car, but Hodgkinson opened the door of the car, pulled out a pocket knife and cut off the seat belt she was wearing, records show. Hodgkinson’s wife joined him, struggling to pull their daughter out of the car, as Hodgkinson punched the neighbor who was in the driver’s seat of the car in the face, witnesses told police.
Later, Joel Fernandez, the boyfriend of the woman who was punched, went to Hodgkinson’s home to confront him. He said Hodgkinson “walked outside with a shotgun and aimed it at Fernandez face,” a complaint states. Hodgkinson struck Fernandez on the side of his face with the wooden stock of the shotgun and fired off one round as Fernandez ran away.
Police arrested Hodgkinson and his wife and charged them with domestic battery and aggravated discharge of a firearm, according to a narrative obtained by The Post. Police also recovered a 12-guage shotgun. The county clerk’s online database shows the charges were later dismissed.
A few months later, police were called to an argument with a neighbor after Hodgkinson “accidentally struck her dog while it was sleeping in the roadway,” record show. Hodgkinson made multiple complaints about neighbors damaging his lawn by driving through it.
The local newspaper in Belleville featured a 2012 picture of Hodgkinson protesting outside the U.S. Post Office building and holding a sign with the message “Tax the Rich.” The Belleville News-Democrat described Hodgkinson as part of a “99 percent” team that was bringing attention to the financial and political power of the top 1 percent of Americans.
For gun control advocates, the problem is: how could one deny such people guns? You'd have to leave that decision up to police records. And that is also the problem. While few get upset when a person who has a bad police record as to driving automobiles is refused a license to drive, when it comes to guns, first amendment people don't exactly cotton to the idea that the law is the one who is saying who is too angry to have a gun and who is not. It all hinges on whether we have faith that our law is always going to be the people's law of the common good and not of a dictator.
well, I would counter that if there if gun control advocates have no solution to offer about gun owners like this, best not to get into it anyways...
I am totally resigned to what is upsetting you, I am surprised it didn't happen sooner. I expect nothing less from righties to make big talking points of this after seeing lefties make big talking points on blogs for years about evil righties going postally violent, and how lefties never do this. Perhaps it will eventually turn out well, as after righties get their rocks off on the tit-for-tat, they realize that they cannot lock all passionate lefties up or have law enforcement follow each one around, but must do something about gun registration.
I'm not upset. I'm just stating the facts about gun control. If nothing happened after Sandy Hook, nothing is going to change.
The Right is incapable of the insight required to face the fact that the Left can go postal in response to the Right going postal.. The Right never stakes responsibility for evil carried out in their name. The Left will always beg forgiveness.
We forget about all the other violent far left movements of the 60's and 70's, Baader Manhoff et. al. The mystery is why that faded and violence is now a favored tool of those trying to return to "the old ways" of the conservative morals of some book or leader or preacher or theory....
seems to me that for the last decades, it's rapid change that causes anger enough to go for violent methods?
You could ban 100 round magazines, but gun enthusiasts say it's fun and an adrenaline rush to blow off a hundred or more rounds in a matter of seconds.
Also, the founding fathers didn't outlaw AK-47s or big magazines.
certainly sounds from the WaPo article that this guy enjoyed that kind of thing.
I have a personal prejudice about this I will share, have zero scientific proof. Only experience with four masculine brothers all younger than big sister me, a small feminine wimp. I think people who like to do this, and also people who have anger control issues, have an excess of some kind of hormone. A hormone more common in people who are more male on the sliding scale of sexual identity. You see it in little boys, most grow out of it. (Fireworks, explosives, playing army, etc.) You see it in extremely butch lesbians. You see it in military training where they recruit these types and then try to train them so that it can be used in a command structure. It is also common that people who have excess of it, do not grow out of it, do not do well in school, so they end up in blue collar or aggressive sales work or the like.
Some day we will have a better idea of who should be allowed a bionic stun phaser and who should not?
P.S. Edit to add: the complexity and irony of my personal experience: the brother who had the most violent fantasy life as a little kid, and was allowed to blow off that steam with plenty of toy guns and the like, was an ADHD type in schooling. Today he is the one least interested in firearms or anything to do with them, though he still has anger management issues, they have faded with age, he is calmer. He like basketball and bike riding. While the most intellectual and brother followed my father's interests into hunting, fishing and responsible use of firearms, pretty avid, actually, it's like it lets him blow off stress from having to control anger regarding his work, day in, day out.
There certainly is a subset of people who love making things explode. I lived in a rural area where it was easy to get things that explode and far enough away from public areas that it was easy to explode things. I remember when I was a young teen getting M-80, the most powerful firecracker it was legal to buy. Pretty dangerous, unlike smaller firecrackers that could blow of part of a finger an M-80 could blow of most of a hand if you weren't careful. I tossed off a few, saw the big flaming explosion and heard the big bang but got bored with it very quick. I never bothered to do it again.
Some people as you pointed out never grow out of it. Since buying large explosives is strictly regulated as adults they buy propane tanks for 20 to 40 dollars and fill them for another $20. Then they shoot at them until they explode. I don't get why that's fun.
Comes to mind heavy metal head banger music has some of this thing, has always struck me that the guitarists could just as well be shooting off an automatic rifle. A good harmless substitute?
Adrenaline also plays a key role as a neurotransmitter that facilitates communication between brain cells, or neurons, and other cells. An adrenaline rush is a sudden increased secretion of adrenaline from the adrenal glands. It causes an increase in heart rate and respiration.Jun 17, 2015
Adrenaline, or epinephrine, is a stress hormone secreted from the adrenal glands on the kidneys. It plays a major role in preparing the body for a fight-or-flight reaction in threatening environments. An adrenaline rush is a sudden increase in the secretion of adrenaline from the adrenal glands.Apr 16, 2015
Adrenaline also plays a key role as a neurotransmitter that facilitates communication between brain cells, or neurons, and other cells. An adrenaline rush is a sudden increased secretion of adrenaline from the adrenal glands. It causes an increase in heart rate and respiration.Jun 17, 2015
Here is the intellectual content on the Right. An Evangelical preacher says that we should stop demonizing politicians. The same preacher said that Obama was paving the way for the Anti-Christ. The pastor does not believe that his words demonized Obama.
Oh, I know the sophistry that helps him rationalize this I wanna try at it! It's like this: the faithful are powerless against Revelation. Obama is just an agent of the devil, the real enemy is the devil. Then one gets into how to defeat the devil, that advice will vary.
I would like to thank some anonymous grownups at the White House for small favors, that Trump has not said anything inflammatory yet. (Could be the Secret Service has had some input?) Things could be much worse. Gingrich types would do different and already have.
ah hear we go, lest we forget, we are reminded that baseball has now been attacked as well, one of the few supposedly non-violent gentlemanly pursuits left, woe is us, is apple pie next? America is lost...
An Attack on Congress and Baseball by Steve Israel @ NYTimes.com: It matters that the shooting took place on a baseball diamond, one of the few places where bipartisanship survives.
Surely George Will has already opined along these lines, if not, it's coming soon.
Baseball is a lie that led us directly to Trump. Or as Trump would call it, "truthful hyperbole." According to the rule book baseball is played on a 90 foot square. But what do we call it? A Diamond. How very Trumpian.
By Lorraine Woellert, Josh Meyer & Alan Greenblatt @ Politico.com, Updated 06/14/2017 07:29 PM EDT
In this undated photo, James Hodgkinson holds a sign
during a protest outside a U.S. Post Office in Belleville, Ill.
Derik Holtmann/Belleville News-Democrat, via AP
James T. Hodgkinson lived a seemingly comfortable existence back home. He had a wife, friends and a pool where he hosted parties. How and why his life ended on a blood-soaked field halfway across the nation remains largely a mystery to investigators trying to piece together his life.
Anger, plain and simple, seemed to be one driver. A man prone to aggressive outbursts, Hodgkinson had grown increasingly angry at the political order in recent years, lashing out online against President Donald Trump and other Republicans [....]
Investigators searching for a motive are piecing together a timeline of his last months in which neighbors, colleagues and public records show a man's descent into rage.
A home inspector from Belleville, Ill., Hodgkinson was no stranger to law enforcement. He had a lengthy arrest record and seemed prone to violent fits [....]
Comments
Members of Congress congregate at a baseball field in Alexandria, VA
Some gunman showed up firing 50? shots at these members as well as bystanders.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-shots-ymca-alexandria-virginia_us_5941217fe4b003d5948c43d0?9u&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
by Richard Day on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 8:24am
Shooter IDed as James T Hodgkinson
Media talking point
Bernie Sanders supporter
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/14/baseball-shooting-james-t-hod...
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 11:17am
According to WSJ, the shooter is dead.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 11:47am
According to Alex Jones it never happened.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 12:42pm
False Flag
False Flag
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 12:53pm
Suspect’s friend said he is ‘not evil,’ believes he was fed up with politicians
from Washington Post Live Coverage, 2:12 pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 2:50pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 3:02pm
Gabby Giffords released a statement
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/14/frmer-arizona-rep-gabby-giffords-...
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 10:08am
Hey Dick...
It obviously goes without saying... But, no matter one's political persuasion, this is a very grave development.
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 10:37am
As it was with Sandy Hook, Gabby Giffords, etc.......
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 10:42am
Oh I agree Ducky.
This was an assassination attempt for sure.
And this is serious business.
by Richard Day on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 10:47am
The difference between Sandy Hook and the Congressmen is protection by a Congressional security team and Capitol police. The people at Sandy Hook died.
Edit to add:
Mass shootings are pretty common.
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/12/26/2016-in-review-mass-shootings-in-a...
2nd Edit to add:
June 12th was the one year anniversary of the massacre at Pulse nightclub in Orlando and the 54th anniversary of the assassination of a Edgar Evers.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 11:06am
Really?
That makes me feel so much better.
~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 11:05am
Welcome to the United States.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 11:07am
TPM is reporting he hated Trump and thought Hillary was just another Republican. He was a supporter of...of....... link tpm
by NCD on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 12:48pm
Hillary "Republican in a pantsuit", Wow.
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 12:56pm
Build the Wall now.....oh wait...
by NCD on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 1:34pm
GOP leadership will call for unity
GOP membership will yell that the Left is killing people on the Right.
GOP will fundraise off the event.
Bernie Sanders will apologize
Discussion of gun control will not happen.
Rinse, repeat
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 2:19pm
rmrd0000 and all you Dag Folks...
In 1960 my old next door neighbor Rod Serling wrote about this type of mass parnonia.
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~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 6:40pm
Oh Ducky, I recall this episode like most of us over 50? or 60? hahahhahahahah
I always liked this episode.
Recall in the 50's and all those commies would end our 'liberties'.
And new Alien and Sedition Acts were enacted every goddamn year. haOh NOHAVE YOU O
ducky I love this episode.
by Richard Day on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 7:55pm
DD, I just deleted 104 duplicate comments from you. I think that's a new record.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 10:29pm
What the hell? My comments have never duplicated. I'm not even in the competition. What am I doing wrong?
by ocean-kat on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 12:18am
I crashed for 6 hours.
That is the record!
I switched to Chrome and all was ducky and then.....
by Richard Day on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 5:14am
It's ok Richard. If I just posted 104 duplicate comments I'd be so worn out I'd crash for 6 hours too. That's just the cost of going for the gold. I think your new record will stand for a long time. Good job!
by ocean-kat on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:19pm
That was a classic!
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 10:49pm
Today's attack was the 153rd mass shooting in 2017
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-mass-shooting_us_59414b06e4...
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:38pm
Yeah, good point.
I just read that minutes ago.
And the def on that 'mass shooting' is 4 or more or something like that.
See, even if one attempts a description of this carnage, it might sound trite.
These are human beings being killed by other human beings.
And yet, we call some mass shootings domestics.
And yet, we call some mass shootings as accomplished by 'mentally defectives'.
And then we call other mass shootings terrorist in nature.
BUT IN THE END THE VICTIMS ARE DEAD, DEAD, DEAD!
by Richard Day on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:47pm
still, politically or ideologically motivated violent mass attacks are different in that they are intended to have an effect on all those that live on
whereas some are just clearly either the "15 minutes of fame" thing operating (giving the attacker a sense of power in face of what we mock as "existential pain") or just mad as hell and not going to take it anymore, want to hurt people ("gone postal")
I think the first can properly be labeled terrorism as it is meant to terrorize the living into changing something...
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 5:33pm
p.s. saying that, popped into my mind how often war these days uses terrorism of the population at large where it used to supposedly have "gentleman's rules" of a duel between nation states or factions. Follows where those mass attacker categories can cross over: the power of high-power weapons makes the attacker feel he has the power of like a nation state. And this is at the heart of the argument of a lot of First Amendment people, that they give civilians power. should the jackboots come. Was one of former dagblog member Resistance's favorite pro-NRA arguments. One would counter: your stupid automatic weapon is useless against a tank or bombs dropped from a plane. And it wouldn't matter because an automatic weapon gives a sense of power or confidence against a well-armed adversary. And what I gleaned from that: the weakest point of NRA type arguments is the handgun. They don't really have a strong Constitutional argument for concealed handguns. It's just about a feeling of manhood or security. And handguns do the most damage of useless deaths in this country.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 5:51pm
On the gun regulation issue. The new Washington Post article on the shooter, from which I have excerpted on his angry politics upthread, is also very good on the gun topic. A picture is clearly drawn of someone who can't control their anger, how that does not mix with guns. (The Gabbie Giffords shooting was not the same, that was with a known mental illness history, should be easier to deny registration.) This guy clearly just had an anger management problem, and also happened to be a passionist progressive. But a history of uncontrolled anger is the clear problem; from the second half of the article
For gun control advocates, the problem is: how could one deny such people guns? You'd have to leave that decision up to police records. And that is also the problem. While few get upset when a person who has a bad police record as to driving automobiles is refused a license to drive, when it comes to guns, first amendment people don't exactly cotton to the idea that the law is the one who is saying who is too angry to have a gun and who is not. It all hinges on whether we have faith that our law is always going to be the people's law of the common good and not of a dictator.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 3:24pm
The point is that gun control will not be a major part of the discussion. The focus will be on the crazy Left.
Edit to add:
https://thedailybanter.com/2017/06/right-wing-hypocrisy-takes-center-stage/
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 3:56pm
well, I would counter that if there if gun control advocates have no solution to offer about gun owners like this, best not to get into it anyways...
I am totally resigned to what is upsetting you, I am surprised it didn't happen sooner. I expect nothing less from righties to make big talking points of this after seeing lefties make big talking points on blogs for years about evil righties going postally violent, and how lefties never do this. Perhaps it will eventually turn out well, as after righties get their rocks off on the tit-for-tat, they realize that they cannot lock all passionate lefties up or have law enforcement follow each one around, but must do something about gun registration.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:08pm
I'm not upset. I'm just stating the facts about gun control. If nothing happened after Sandy Hook, nothing is going to change.
The Right is incapable of the insight required to face the fact that the Left can go postal in response to the Right going postal.. The Right never stakes responsibility for evil carried out in their name. The Left will always beg forgiveness.
https://www.vox.com/2017/6/14/15801600/scalise-shooting-bernie-sanders-s...
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:19pm
You have a point here AA; one that I think about all the time.
Remember the Black Panthers?
Well that group was an espouser of Second Amendment rights.
And the leaders made sure that there were plenty of pix with members holding guns.
AND THAT WAS THE 70'S.
TIT FOR TAT AS YOU SAY!
350 million guns amongst a population of 350 million folks with only 40%? owning guns?
But the right is probably already writing and tweeting and talking about left terrorists?
by Richard Day on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:26pm
The Black Panthers got the NRA to support gun control.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/black-panthers-california-1967_us_56...
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:29pm
YEAH rmrd.
Yeah.
OH MY GOD WE CAN SELL MORE GUNS TO ANYONE.
Praise Jesus!
by Richard Day on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 6:08pm
We forget about all the other violent far left movements of the 60's and 70's, Baader Manhoff et. al. The mystery is why that faded and violence is now a favored tool of those trying to return to "the old ways" of the conservative morals of some book or leader or preacher or theory....
seems to me that for the last decades, it's rapid change that causes anger enough to go for violent methods?
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:35pm
You could ban 100 round magazines, but gun enthusiasts say it's fun and an adrenaline rush to blow off a hundred or more rounds in a matter of seconds.
Also, the founding fathers didn't outlaw AK-47s or big magazines.
by NCD on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:00pm
certainly sounds from the WaPo article that this guy enjoyed that kind of thing.
I have a personal prejudice about this I will share, have zero scientific proof. Only experience with four masculine brothers all younger than big sister me, a small feminine wimp. I think people who like to do this, and also people who have anger control issues, have an excess of some kind of hormone. A hormone more common in people who are more male on the sliding scale of sexual identity. You see it in little boys, most grow out of it. (Fireworks, explosives, playing army, etc.) You see it in extremely butch lesbians. You see it in military training where they recruit these types and then try to train them so that it can be used in a command structure. It is also common that people who have excess of it, do not grow out of it, do not do well in school, so they end up in blue collar or aggressive sales work or the like.
Some day we will have a better idea of who should be allowed a bionic stun phaser and who should not?
P.S. Edit to add: the complexity and irony of my personal experience: the brother who had the most violent fantasy life as a little kid, and was allowed to blow off that steam with plenty of toy guns and the like, was an ADHD type in schooling. Today he is the one least interested in firearms or anything to do with them, though he still has anger management issues, they have faded with age, he is calmer. He like basketball and bike riding. While the most intellectual and brother followed my father's interests into hunting, fishing and responsible use of firearms, pretty avid, actually, it's like it lets him blow off stress from having to control anger regarding his work, day in, day out.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 4:28pm
There certainly is a subset of people who love making things explode. I lived in a rural area where it was easy to get things that explode and far enough away from public areas that it was easy to explode things. I remember when I was a young teen getting M-80, the most powerful firecracker it was legal to buy. Pretty dangerous, unlike smaller firecrackers that could blow of part of a finger an M-80 could blow of most of a hand if you weren't careful. I tossed off a few, saw the big flaming explosion and heard the big bang but got bored with it very quick. I never bothered to do it again.
Some people as you pointed out never grow out of it. Since buying large explosives is strictly regulated as adults they buy propane tanks for 20 to 40 dollars and fill them for another $20. Then they shoot at them until they explode. I don't get why that's fun.
by ocean-kat on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 5:41pm
Comes to mind heavy metal head banger music has some of this thing, has always struck me that the guitarists could just as well be shooting off an automatic rifle. A good harmless substitute?
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 6:03pm
ocean-kat... It's the rush...
The adrenaline rush...
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~OGD~
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 5:15pm
Here is the intellectual content on the Right. An Evangelical preacher says that we should stop demonizing politicians. The same preacher said that Obama was paving the way for the Anti-Christ. The pastor does not believe that his words demonized Obama.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-jeffress-demonization-polltic...
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 5:59pm
Oh, I know the sophistry that helps him rationalize this I wanna try at it! It's like this: the faithful are powerless against Revelation. Obama is just an agent of the devil, the real enemy is the devil. Then one gets into how to defeat the devil, that advice will vary.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 6:07pm
They are in a bubble
by rmrd0000 on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 6:20pm
I would like to thank some anonymous grownups at the White House for small favors, that Trump has not said anything inflammatory yet. (Could be the Secret Service has had some input?) Things could be much worse. Gingrich types would do different and already have.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 7:26pm
ah hear we go, lest we forget, we are reminded that baseball has now been attacked as well, one of the few supposedly non-violent gentlemanly pursuits left, woe is us, is apple pie next? America is lost...
An Attack on Congress and Baseball by Steve Israel @ NYTimes.com: It matters that the shooting took place on a baseball diamond, one of the few places where bipartisanship survives.
Surely George Will has already opined along these lines, if not, it's coming soon.
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 7:39pm
Of course, if Trump and the Republican Congress take us back to when America was really great, 1838, there was no baseball.
The Founding Fathers never experienced the bipartisan camaraderie of a baseball diamond, but nevertheless endured.
by NCD on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 7:56pm
but NCD, without baseball, the terrorists win!
(and please don't get into that whole thing where King George considered America to be terrorist, that was solved later by: baseball!)
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 8:14pm
Baseball is a lie that led us directly to Trump. Or as Trump would call it, "truthful hyperbole." According to the rule book baseball is played on a 90 foot square. But what do we call it? A Diamond. How very Trumpian.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 06/15/2017 - 1:23pm
James Hodgkinson’s long descent into rage
'Nobody really knew anything about him.'
By Lorraine Woellert, Josh Meyer & Alan Greenblatt @ Politico.com, Updated 06/14/2017 07:29 PM EDT
during a protest outside a U.S. Post Office in Belleville, Ill.
Derik Holtmann/Belleville News-Democrat, via AP
by artappraiser on Wed, 06/14/2017 - 9:25pm