UPDATE: The two LASD deputies - one male, one female - were ambushed as they sat in their patrol vehicle, the department says. Both are in critical condition https://t.co/KAE5EL4PSJhttps://t.co/sCnpfVtzEL
A movement that objects to unfair stereotyping and demonization of people based off of group characteristics really cant coexist with this behavior https://t.co/8YIHsSVqU9
and where we get more racial and tribal stereotyping on the internet, not less--here's a new comment on the above on the Law and Crime site I just noticed
This from someone who no doubt would propound on the evil practice of police using racial stereotyping. But as an amateur detective on the internet, he is doing EXACTLY THAT.
and a few comments before that guy is of course is a guy right there reminding where far left and far right activists meet in hatred of law enforcement and support for more gun ownership:
You can't tell a black man from a white man just by the way he runs. He'd have to dribble a basketball while he runs and then dunk it to know what color his skin is.
Ron Brownstein seeks fit to emphasize Biden's clarity:
Biden doesn't mince words: "Acts of lawlessness and violence directed against police officers are unacceptable, outrageous, and entirely counterproductive to the pursuit of greater peace and justice in America ...Those who perpetrate these crimes must be brought to justice"
Better late than never, but to my mind this sister souljah moment could have come a little earlier. They are desperate and started playing hardball quite some time ago, just watched this one:
— Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) September 10, 2020
I can see that turning some in my family if it hit them at the right time there was looting or destruction or rioting nearby. They've certainly got enough clips of violence now to work with for more ads like this, and harassment of white middle class people outdoors as well.
(And I do recall someone on Twitter, don't remember who, probably a Never Trumper, predicting at the time it happened that we would see Pelosi and friends wearing kente cloth stoles and taking a knee in a Trump ad. That it was a cynical move that would be used against them and wouldn't do them any good with the movement. And I thought 'eh, nah, probably not." And here it is, whoever they were, they were right.)
just looking how many times it's been tweeted in a short while with hashtag #UniteAgainstTheViolence is impressive but don't know whether the reach will be just preaching to a choir
The sheriff requested that politicians emphasize "trust" in the justice system. I responded with a post about why there was no trust in the sheriff's department. Somehow, you took it as a personal attack or a lecture. My post was merely a response to the sheriff's request.
The people at Reason are not my allies. This particular Reason article had a point of view that was "reasonable". I chose to link to Reason, but there were many articles in Woke publications that would serve the same purpose.
Edit to add:
Regarding the folks at Reason, they take a more "let the people decide" position on the approach to COVID, They are unlikely to support wearing masks, etc. I take the "How dare you be so willing to put my health at risk by not wearing a mask." approach. We are not allies.
The first part of their latest podcast deals with COVID. The panelists believe that earlier notification about the risks of COVID would have had minimal effect on the number of deaths
The sheriff of Los Angeles County challenged LeBron James to “step up to the plate” to match the reward money being offered for information related to the ambush and shooting of two deputies as they sat in their patrol car Saturday night in Compton.
The reward had reached $175,000 before Alex Villanueva specifically called out the Los Angeles Lakers star, who has been vocal about the shooting of unarmed Black people by police. Video of the shooting of the deputies shows a person walking up to a parked police car and firing a gun into the passenger-side window, then running. The wounded deputies, a 31-year-old woman and a 24-year-old man, underwent surgery Saturday night for multiple gunshot wounds.
“This challenge is to LeBron James. I want you to match that and double that reward,” Villanueva said on Monday. “I know you care about law enforcement. You expressed a very interesting statement about your perspective on race relations and on officer-involved shootings and the impact that it has on the African American community. And I appreciated that. But likewise, we need to appreciate that respect for life goes across professions, across races, creeds, and I’d like to see LeBron James step up to the plate and double that.”
This is the same department where deputies lied about attacking a reporter, and leaked death scene photos of Kobe Bryant and his daughter
Vanessa Bryant hit back this week at Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva, who challengedNBA superstar LeBron James to match reward money for information on the shooting of two deputies in Compton, Calif., over the weekend.
In a series of posts on her Instagram Story, Bryant spotlighted screenshots of tweets and articles blasting Villanueva and calling out his department over the leak of graphic photos following the tragic helicopter crash that killed her husband, Kobe Bryant, their young daughter Gianna, and seven others in January.
The online use of anti-police memes has surged, a new research report says, raising concerns that they might spur real-world violence....Some memes that spread on social media depict police officers being shot or their vehicles burned...Another post urged people to use 3-D printers to make guns that can’t be traced by authorities....
It started as an internet meme.Then waves of political unrest gave adherents of the Boogaloo a chance to test their theories about the collapse of American society....Hunter told me he and his compatriots feel their hands have been forced. “A lot of the violence perpetrated by the government, police brutality, foreign wars, civilian casualties, no-knock raids — I guess the way we viewed it was: ‘How in the world are we supposed to stand up against this?’”.... In April, a man in Texarkana, Texas, who identified with the movement streamed a live video on Facebook while dressed in body armor and a Hawaiian shirt, telling viewers he was “hunting the hunters”: searching for police officers to ambush.... On the forums, they would joke about a “pig roast” — code for killing police officers. In June, Facebook claimed that it deleted hundreds of accounts and pages devoted to the movement; by mid-July, the Boogaloo bois were back on Facebook talking about a “spicy fiesta.”....“They’re really anti-police,” Pitcavage says of the Boogaloo; they may say they want to find common cause with anyone protesting the police — but some want to act as agents provocateurs, accelerating street violence and furthering any conflict. For many of them, the protests following the killing of George Floyd on Memorial Day looked like the perfect opportunity to create mayhem....
Democratic Rep. Karen Bass says the ambush and shooting of two Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies is horrific and that “there is no excuse for the violence against the officers, period.” pic.twitter.com/Zmqw6JBokF
Includes results of interview, by Stefanie Dazio @ AP.com, Sept. 15
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The Los Angeles County sheriff on Monday criticized elected officials, sports figures and civic leaders for “fanning the flames of hatred” as America grapples with racism and police brutality, saying they instead should emphasize trust in the criminal justice system.
Sheriff Alex Villanueva’s comments to The Associated Press came after the weekend ambush of two deputies who were in their parked police vehicle when a man walked up to the passenger’s side and fired multiple rounds. The deputies were struck in the head and critically wounded but both are expected to recover, Villanueva said. The gunman hasn’t been captured and a motive has not been determined [....]
[....] After that shooting, a handful of protesters gathered outside the hospital where the deputies were treated and tried to block the emergency room entrance. Videos from the scene recorded protesters shouting expletives at police and at least one yell “I hope they ... die.”
Villanueva said the angry rhetoric is making deputies’ work more difficult.
“They’re out there doing their job and yet we have people fanning the flames of hatred and just turning up the volume when we don’t need it. We need to be turning it down,” Villanueva said. “Particularly our elected officials and civic leaders and sports figures, they need to start emphasizing trust in the system, due process.”
Villanueva did not specify any particular people but many politicians and athletes have harshly criticized police and called for defunding departments in the wake of [....]
In his interview with AP, Villanueva also rejected claims the criminal justice system is biased against people of color, saying his department is committed to thorough investigations, including of its own employees.
“To someone who says they’re biased, the only bias we have is toward facts,” he said. “We need to stop the false narratives. We have to let the system take its course and justice has to be based on facts, based on evidence. It has to be right.”
Villanueva said the department’s investigations into police shootings like Kizzee’s take time.
“We’re not going to speed up or slow down at the behest of anybody,” he said. “It’s going to be based on fact, not on emotion. Some people already have determined the results, so they’re trying to throw rocks at the process.”
Meantime, Villanueva defended the arrest of Josie Huang, a reporter for public radio station KPCC taken into custody during Saturday’s demonstration outside the hospital. The department said Huang didn’t identify herself as a journalist and interfered with the arrest of a protester.
After she was released, Huang tweeted she was “filming an arrest when suddenly deputies shout ‘back up.’ Within seconds, I was getting shoved around. There was nowhere to back up.”
In a video of the incident, Huang can be heard shouting, “I’m a reporter. ... I’m with KPCC” as she falls to the ground. She said she was wearing a press pass.
Villanueva said Huang was too close to the deputies during the man’s arrest. He claimed “that’s where she crossed the line from journalism to activism,” He said he didn’t know if the deputies heard her shouting “I’m a reporter.”
“You have to have a certain level of responsibility as a journalist,” Villanueva said. “Do your job but do it at a safe distance where you’re not interfering with the deputies doing their job.”
He added: “All I can say is, in the heat of the moment when these protesters are calling or chanting for the death of the deputies in the emergency room, she picked the worst time possible to try to get an up-close of the deputies making an arrest. That’s on her.”
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and SoCal air remains thick with smoke from raging wildfires
SoCal's skies remain thick with smoke as wildfires combine with weather conditions to layer the lower atmosphere with sooty clouds of ash.
By Jade Hernandez
Saturday, September 12, 2020 7:46PM
also
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/13/2020 - 12:00am
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/13/2020 - 3:45am
has video and reporting about the hospital disturbances
whole story is certainly counterproductive to cops becoming less likely to use paranoid tactics
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/13/2020 - 2:52pm
and where we get more racial and tribal stereotyping on the internet, not less--here's a new comment on the above on the Law and Crime site I just noticed
This from someone who no doubt would propound on the evil practice of police using racial stereotyping. But as an amateur detective on the internet, he is doing EXACTLY THAT.
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/13/2020 - 3:01pm
and a few comments before that guy is of course is a guy right there reminding where far left and far right activists meet in hatred of law enforcement and support for more gun ownership:
Let's just make L.A. the wild west again..it'll be great! If they had just given the Seattle CHOP zone more time, it would have worked out just dandy.
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/13/2020 - 3:23pm
You can't tell a black man from a white man just by the way he runs. He'd have to dribble a basketball while he runs and then dunk it to know what color his skin is.
by ocean-kat on Mon, 09/14/2020 - 2:05pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/13/2020 - 5:50pm
Ron Brownstein seeks fit to emphasize Biden's clarity:
by artappraiser on Sun, 09/13/2020 - 6:48pm
Better late than never, but to my mind this sister souljah moment could have come a little earlier. They are desperate and started playing hardball quite some time ago, just watched this one:
I can see that turning some in my family if it hit them at the right time there was looting or destruction or rioting nearby. They've certainly got enough clips of violence now to work with for more ads like this, and harassment of white middle class people outdoors as well.
(And I do recall someone on Twitter, don't remember who, probably a Never Trumper, predicting at the time it happened that we would see Pelosi and friends wearing kente cloth stoles and taking a knee in a Trump ad. That it was a cynical move that would be used against them and wouldn't do them any good with the movement. And I thought 'eh, nah, probably not." And here it is, whoever they were, they were right.)
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/14/2020 - 6:20am
These people are ON IT:
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/14/2020 - 1:23pm
just looking how many times it's been tweeted in a short while with hashtag #UniteAgainstTheViolence is impressive but don't know whether the reach will be just preaching to a choir
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/14/2020 - 1:31pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/14/2020 - 8:43pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 09/14/2020 - 9:43pm
The reason there is a lack of trust is because police routinely lie.
An NPR reporter was arrested at a small protest at the hospital
She was tackled by sheriff depuies
They said she was obstructing justice LIE
Thay said she was not wearing press credentials LIE
The police need to tell the public the truth if they want respect.
I goes without saying that nothing justifies the shooting of the two deputies
BUT respect is earned
We are not a police state
https://reason.com/2020/09/14/l-a-sheriffs-deputies-assault-reporter-then-attempt-to-mislead-public-about-it/
by rmrd0000 on Mon, 09/14/2020 - 10:11pm
Did I not post a thread with the full story about that, all about the spox clearly lying? I needed lecturing about what it said?
Edit to add: I see that finally you have discovered that the libertarians over at Reason.com can be your allies sometimes. Not always the enemy.
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 2:12am
The sheriff requested that politicians emphasize "trust" in the justice system. I responded with a post about why there was no trust in the sheriff's department. Somehow, you took it as a personal attack or a lecture. My post was merely a response to the sheriff's request.
The people at Reason are not my allies. This particular Reason article had a point of view that was "reasonable". I chose to link to Reason, but there were many articles in Woke publications that would serve the same purpose.
Edit to add:
Regarding the folks at Reason, they take a more "let the people decide" position on the approach to COVID, They are unlikely to support wearing masks, etc. I take the "How dare you be so willing to put my health at risk by not wearing a mask." approach. We are not allies.
The first part of their latest podcast deals with COVID. The panelists believe that earlier notification about the risks of COVID would have had minimal effect on the number of deaths
Link to the podcast
https://reason.com/podcast/donald-trump-bob-woodward-and-the-noble-lie/
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 9:32am
The sheriff of Los Angeles County challenged LeBron James to “step up to the plate” to match the reward money being offered for information related to the ambush and shooting of two deputies as they sat in their patrol car Saturday night in Compton.
The reward had reached $175,000 before Alex Villanueva specifically called out the Los Angeles Lakers star, who has been vocal about the shooting of unarmed Black people by police. Video of the shooting of the deputies shows a person walking up to a parked police car and firing a gun into the passenger-side window, then running. The wounded deputies, a 31-year-old woman and a 24-year-old man, underwent surgery Saturday night for multiple gunshot wounds.
“This challenge is to LeBron James. I want you to match that and double that reward,” Villanueva said on Monday. “I know you care about law enforcement. You expressed a very interesting statement about your perspective on race relations and on officer-involved shootings and the impact that it has on the African American community. And I appreciated that. But likewise, we need to appreciate that respect for life goes across professions, across races, creeds, and I’d like to see LeBron James step up to the plate and double that.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/09/15/lebron-james-los-angeles-deputies/
Edit to add
This is the same department where deputies lied about attacking a reporter, and leaked death scene photos of Kobe Bryant and his daughter
Vanessa Bryant hit back this week at Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva, who challenged NBA superstar LeBron James to match reward money for information on the shooting of two deputies in Compton, Calif., over the weekend.
In a series of posts on her Instagram Story, Bryant spotlighted screenshots of tweets and articles blasting Villanueva and calling out his department over the leak of graphic photos following the tragic helicopter crash that killed her husband, Kobe Bryant, their young daughter Gianna, and seven others in January.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/vanessa-bryants-hits-back-at-los-angeles-county-sheriff-over-lebron-james-challenge
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 3:55pm
Rep. Ro Khanna:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 5:35pm
cross links related to possible perps:
The online use of anti-police memes has surged, a new research report says, raising concerns that they might spur real-world violence....Some memes that spread on social media depict police officers being shot or their vehicles burned...Another post urged people to use 3-D printers to make guns that can’t be traced by authorities....
from VIOLENT MEMES AND MESSAGES SURGING ON FAR-LEFT SOCIAL MEDIA, A NEW REPORT FINDS
It started as an internet meme.Then waves of political unrest gave adherents of the Boogaloo a chance to test their theories about the collapse of American society....Hunter told me he and his compatriots feel their hands have been forced. “A lot of the violence perpetrated by the government, police brutality, foreign wars, civilian casualties, no-knock raids — I guess the way we viewed it was: ‘How in the world are we supposed to stand up against this?’”.... In April, a man in Texarkana, Texas, who identified with the movement streamed a live video on Facebook while dressed in body armor and a Hawaiian shirt, telling viewers he was “hunting the hunters”: searching for police officers to ambush.... On the forums, they would joke about a “pig roast” — code for killing police officers. In June, Facebook claimed that it deleted hundreds of accounts and pages devoted to the movement; by mid-July, the Boogaloo bois were back on Facebook talking about a “spicy fiesta.”....“They’re really anti-police,” Pitcavage says of the Boogaloo; they may say they want to find common cause with anyone protesting the police — but some want to act as agents provocateurs, accelerating street violence and furthering any conflict. For many of them, the protests following the killing of George Floyd on Memorial Day looked like the perfect opportunity to create mayhem....
from THE CHAOS AGENTS: INSIDE THE BOOGALOO, AMERICA'S EXTREMELY ONLINE EXTREMISTS
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 5:54pm
Rep. Karen Bass:
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 6:01pm
LA Sheriff to politicians: Emphasize trust in justice system
Includes results of interview, by Stefanie Dazio @ AP.com, Sept. 15
by artappraiser on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 6:27pm
Why should there be trust in the criminal justice system?
Edit to add
The sheriff's department has faults.
Instead of addressing internal faults, demands are made of LeBron James
Why doesn't the union match the donations?
by rmrd0000 on Tue, 09/15/2020 - 9:51pm