MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Ukrainian airplane crashes near Iran’s capital, killing 176
By artappraiser on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:11am |
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https://apnews.com/2a253e68d45381f16b89edc5cc45bba1
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Engine Failure?
by oldenGoldenDecoy on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 6:05am
I think they pulled down that initial snap judgment, now waiting for a real investigation. Assume something looked awry on slightly closer glance.
Black box not going to Boeing either - guess after the 7373 Max crashes, they're about as trusted as Volkswagen on emissions.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/08/iran-says-it-will-not-give...
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 10:28am
WaPo 1 hr. ago: Ukraine bans flights from Iranian airspace after passenger plane crashes, killing 176
At least one expert said it appeared the plane, which had departed from an airport south of Tehran, was “not intact” before it hit the ground.
Also:
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 6:03pm
Mullahs can't shoot straight:
edit to add:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/09/2020 - 2:43pm
NYTimes:
U.S. Officials Have ‘Confidence’ Ukraine Airliner Was Shot Down
An Iranian missile likely brought down the plane accidentally, officials said. Iran, via an international agency, has invited U.S. investigators to assist.
36m ago
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/09/2020 - 2:50pm
WaPo: U.S. now believes Ukrainian airliner was brought down by Iran
President Trump was asked about the crash and said: “Somebody could have made a mistake on the other side. ... Not our system. No. It has nothing to do with us.”
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/09/2020 - 2:55pm
Trudeau video:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/09/2020 - 3:45pm
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by artappraiser on Thu, 01/09/2020 - 3:51pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/10/2020 - 10:42pm
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by artappraiser on Sat, 01/11/2020 - 10:55am
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/11/2020 - 1:13pm
Strangely this is prolly the most quickly truthful they've been.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 01/11/2020 - 2:45pm
yes. I get the impression it is like an extension of the anger about "the mullahs" in general, there is a seizing on anything they can find. After all, they shot to kill protestors in Dec.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/12/2020 - 1:59pm
p.s. It is the Zarif wing, I am sure. Just from seeing his twitter feed. (I honestly don't know if the man is sincere or is a cynical political operative. I think: does it really matter? As he is consistent with that persona.) He's obviously trying to get across to the mullahs that they must come out with humble humane messages at this time, (bonus win with that: the opposite of saber rattling is also the opposite of Trump) that that's the way to win both global support and calm the protests. They endanger their very existence by doing otherwise. But protestors are not in a mood to accept appeasement, the deaths and arrests have been very brutal.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/12/2020 - 2:38pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/11/2020 - 11:00am
Purported protests in Esfahan:
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/11/2020 - 1:00pm
BBC confirmation of Tehran protests:
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/11/2020 - 1:04pm
IRGC Aerospace Command takes full responsibility in press conference, absolves others, see entire thread here of translations:
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/11/2020 - 11:06am
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/12/2020 - 2:03pm
This is an amazing image, protestors not walking on Israeli (!) and American flags. This reminds me of the Hong Kong protestors, there is a sharing of some ideology, freedom of speech seems to be the thing that they are admiring?
And here's an interesting agitprop thing I ran across:
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/12/2020 - 2:08pm
Looking like they weren't exactly planning on admitting shooting it down:
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/15/2020 - 5:36am