"Hostages Freed From Gaza Recount Violence, Hunger and Fear"

Edit to add, just in case you never really *got* the meaning of "never again"; it meant no longer lambs to the slaughter, that they are going to fight back and furthermore do so ferociously, and give a damn what anyone else thinks. You were expecting nicey-nice? Those who did so are fools!

I see dazed women hostages with one dazed male hostage,and a pair of Red Cross, male and female, being subjected to an uncivilized frightening & real noisy large chanting crowd of men & boys, no women, civilized or not. The disgusting base testosterone ELEPHANT again:

beginning excerpt:

The BBC has seen and heard evidence of rape, sexual violence and mutilation of women during the 7 October Hamas attacks.

WARNING: CONTAINS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND RAPE

Several people involved in collecting and identifying the bodies of those killed in the attack told us they had seen multiple signs of sexual assault, including broken pelvises, bruises, cuts and tears, and that the victims ranged from children and teenagers to pensioners.

Video testimony of an eyewitness at the Nova music festival, shown to journalists by Israeli police, detailed the gang rape, mutilation and execution of one victim.

Videos of naked and bloodied women filmed by Hamas on the day of the attack, and photographs of bodies taken at the sites afterwards, suggest that women were sexually targeted by their attackers.

Few victims are thought to have survived to tell their own stories.

Their last moments are being pieced together from survivors, body-collectors, morgue staff and footage from the attack sites.

Police have privately shown journalists a single horrific testimony that they filmed of a woman who was at the Nova festival site during the attack.

She describes seeing Hamas fighters gang rape a woman and mutilate her, before the last of her attackers shot her in the head as he continued to rape her.

In the video, the woman known as Witness S mimes the attackers picking up and passing the victim from one to another.

"She was alive," the witness says. "She was bleeding from her back."

She goes on to detail how the men cut off parts of the victim's body during the assault.

"They sliced her breast and threw it on the street," she says. "They were playing with it."

The victim was passed to another man in uniform, she continues.

"He penetrated her, and shot her in the head before he finished. He didn't even pick up his pants; he shoots and ejaculates."[....]

Hayder Alasadi @Sumerian2022: Founder CEO of the Iraqi-Israeli Association of Peace @iiapeace. Husband. Dad to a little queen. member of #JTwitter family. Atheist/Ex-Muslim/Refuge

bringing in Iran, Russia and Iran, demanding Israeli concessions and insisting that America should give the Palestinians a state.
The only thing that Arab punditry has not debated is what we, the Arabs and Palestinians, should or can do, where we have erred (if at all, since it does not seem we commit any errors). There is no discussion of our civilizational failure in the Levant, Iraq, Yemen, Sudan, Libya and Algeria. There is no review of the horrible“resistance” model that many Arabs endorse, a resistance that can neither liberate Palestine -- according to Arab nationalist and Palestine policy tsar in #Qatar Azmi Beshara (former #Israel MK) -- nor prevent Palestinian deaths. So what’s the point of resistance? Just spite Israel and cause death and destruction?
It’s horrible that we the Arabs never perceive of ourselves as people with agency. We are always objects of the actions of others, usually victims, and we want the world to reverse whatever it’s doing and turn us from whining victims (whose victimhood justifies the killing of others) to victorious conquerers (maybe give us Spain back?) because we are entitled and think whoever disagrees with us is on the wrong side of history.
Then come the bored middle class Westerners, who prioritize native and indigenous as authentic (cute?) over functioning institutions, states and rule of law. If the Arab world behaves half as native and indigenous as these Western kids want us to, the Levant and Iraq will look like even more Medieval than it does today, with more barbaric raids, counter raids, thuggery, and oppression of women and LGBTQ, etc.
Instead of spending our time discussing Netanyahu, Biden and everybody else, we should focus on us, why did we fail and produce Hamas and Hezbollah instead of functioning state. How can we play whatever hand we have in the best way to save as much Arab lives and give them much possible hope and better lives? (Hint: Hamas and Hezbollah surrender for a start)
It is a discussion that we must have, but that we are unfortunately wasting time and not having, instead analyzing everything and everyone but our own shortcomings.
Attached is an example of the best and the brightest Arabs debating, not our own failure, but everything else.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6a2nOe8foQw

American teenagers, in a scary procentage, think that Holocaust it’s just a myth and…just a movie. I think the American educational system is too rotten to even correct this. Maybe Spielberg can do more.

Piers Morgan vs. "current Chairman, UK-Executive Committee Hizb ut-Tahrir":

without seeing this; you cannot go shopping without seeing this.  It's everywhere.  How do you think that Jews feel?  Better hide those Star of Davids.  

@val_plante

 

@francoislegault

 

@JustinTrudeau

especially fthese excerpts from part one:

...Those were the Arab refugees from the war of 1948, later to be known as Palestinians. All other refugee groups, except the Palestinians, were presented with a clear message: “it’s tough, it’s tragic, move on”. There was a clear understanding that in the most fundamental sense there is no going back - not in place and not in time (thus, there was no such thing as “a right of return”). To seek to go back would mean endless war. And so the message was forward looking and future facing. Tens of millions of refugees and displaced persons, among them millions of Jews, would build new lives in the new countries to which they fled....

....Palestinians don’t need to move on and can keep insisting on “return”, both in space and in time, to a time when there was no Israel. UNRWA thus became the mechanism by which the Jewish people alone were denied the right to to consider their hard won self-determination and sovereign statehood as a done deal.....