They are asking: why did he wait so long? First, I've know a lot of straight NY guys that are his pixie style, so he could pass. But now being gay has become an incredibly popular middle of the road thing, so much so that hipsters are sick of it, being trans is the new kewl underdog. And Mr. Manilow is nothing if not middle middle middle of the road pop! He's moving with his culcha.
BTW, when Bobby met Barry: “It was an odd meeting,” he recalled. It took place at a Seder, a ceremonial Passover dinner, at the home of songwriting legend Burt Bacharach. “He [Dylan] walked right up to me and hugged me said "Don't stop what you're doing man, We're all inspired by you.” He wasn't sure if Dylan was taking the piss out of him or serious.
Also, Manilow wrote McDonald's "You Deserve a Break Today" jingle. I remember when Abbie Hoffman tried to turn that into "You Deserve a Brick Today" as a rather stark anti-capitalist message. (In "Steal This Book" they noted you could tape those little "postage paid" cards you get in magazines to a brick and the company'd be obligated to pay - I think that rule's changed. Anyway, Peter Coyote of the Diggers wasn't thrilled to have Hoffman publish a book giving away all his secrets. #Digblog.
Hey, did you know Manilow's Jewish? he says he only did 1 bathhouse with Bette Midler (she was probably the only female), but then he was married once as well. Anyway, a perfect campy pair.
Are you being serious? Even if you're not, might as well get into it a bit because it's one of my favorite topics. He's like the stereotype of a British "queen" with quotes, and known as such when he was alive, too. This 1882 Royal Worcester teapot (photo source AIC) was widely known to refer to him and his Aesthetic Movement "queers," it is of a character from Gilbert & Sullivan that parodied them:
Very tragic, as many victims of England's homosexuality laws were. Father of the computer, Alan Turing, had a very similar tragic story.
It's the classic Greek & Brit kind of homosexuality, he treasured his wife and children and was exceedingly tender with them but passionately loved only men. This interchange (from the above link) from his first trial is probably the most famous description of that style of homosexuality:
Wilde: "The love that dare not speak its name" in this century is such a great affection of an elder for a younger man as there was between David and Jonathan, such as Plato made the very basis of his philosophy, and such as you find in the sonnets of Michelangelo and Shakespeare. It is that deep spiritual affection that is as pure as it is perfect. It dictates and pervades great works of art, like those of Shakespeare and Michelangelo, and those two letters of mine, such as they are. It is in this century misunderstood, so much misunderstood that it may be described as "the love that dare not speak its name," and on that account of it I am placed where I am now. It is beautiful, it is fine, it is the noblest form of affection. There is nothing unnatural about it. It is intellectual, and it repeatedly exists between an older and a younger man, when the older man has intellect, and the younger man has all the joy, hope and glamour of life before him. That it should be so, the world does not understand. The world mocks at it, and sometimes puts one in the pillory for it.[137]
One of the things I have always found interesting about his homosexuality and "queerness" is his American lecture tours which went across the country including in some rough pioneer areas. Everywhere he went he was welcomed and Americans of all types were enthralled to meet him. Americans of the time were clueless about what the Brits knew and understood about him and other "queers", they just thought that kind of behavior meant: high class intellectual, and they were hungry for it. Quite different from like the eternal Harriet Beeche Stowe knockoff. To go to an Oscar Wilde lecture was like the bee's knees, you were no longer like born in a barn, had sophisticated tastes.
2) Hey, did you know Manilow's Jewish?
I was trying to be politically correct by talking about a pixie type of straight NYC guy, leaving out that word. It's a known stereotype. Think Woody Allen as a variant, though not exactly the same. Actually more common in the burbs, like Westchester and NJ. One would describe such a person as "like, you know, Barry Manilow, like a good bar mitzvah boy." (There was sometimes a guest character on SNL on the In The News segment, Jacob the bar mitzvah boy.) Manilow screams classic "good Jewish boy" more than he does "gay."
Hmm, screams good boy like Liberace in furs? I see Wilde and Rimbaud as twin genius literary flamers set across the channel, as 1 impression, more vivant than the sickly Proust. But yeah, Queen Vic came out barely veiled - back in the parlors the fun begins.
Russia has banned a picture depicting President Vladimir Putin as a potentially gay clown.
Russian news outlets are having trouble reporting exactly which image of the Internet's many Putin-gay-clown memes is now illegal to share. Because, you know, it's been banned.
But the picture was described last week on the Russian government's list of things that constitute “extremism.”
Item 4071: a picture of a Putin-like person “with eyes and lips made up,” captioned with an implicit anti-gay slur, implying “the supposed nonstandard sexual orientation of the president of the Russian Federation.”
The Moscow Times thinks it probably looks like this:
There's more images @ the link, the media there really isn't sure which one has been banned.
I can't believe they are still doing the old Soviet mental institution thing with artists. (Moscow Times' tweet says sentenced the culprit to compulsory psychiatric care.)
not the least of which because some of the oligarchs are sponsoring and supporting some pretty avant garde art and performances (like this one in late Feb. in "Moscow’s hip Red October district"), albeit non-political. In Soviet times, psychiatry was used to try to control "dangerous" artistic styles, what they were trying to "reform" in such artists was much more complex. They weren't afraid to just attack straight out political dissidence directly.
Oh yeah, sometimes for days at a time, hence the crack I made on another thread about stimulants. Am a natural (inherited) night owl forced to live in an unfriendly morning friendly world, forever jet lagged and treading water trying to stay afloat, managing to rob Peter to pay Paul while brain fogged, and wasting my few good hours being a news junkie at night.
Quote by Nietzsche's press agent? Vladdy should just let his inner Gaultier hang out.Besides, bare-chested on horseback is so 1970's - the scene's moved on.
I dunno about that, I think the horse picture was pretty hot, the stuff of gay fantasy, that's the one they shoulda banned if the idea of a gay man having an orgasm over another upsets them.
And maybe they just don't like the clown part? You know, the hetereo man love thing and all...
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They are asking: why did he wait so long? First, I've know a lot of straight NY guys that are his pixie style, so he could pass. But now being gay has become an incredibly popular middle of the road thing, so much so that hipsters are sick of it, being trans is the new kewl underdog. And Mr. Manilow is nothing if not middle middle middle of the road pop! He's moving with his culcha.
The Tate Gallery is having Britannia come out of the closet too; the show is incredibly popular.
Fundies of course see this as the decline of Western civilization, we are moving fast to Armageddon.
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/05/2017 - 5:04pm
Hey, did you know Oscar Wilde was gay?
BTW, when Bobby met Barry: “It was an odd meeting,” he recalled. It took place at a Seder, a ceremonial Passover dinner, at the home of songwriting legend Burt Bacharach. “He [Dylan] walked right up to me and hugged me said "Don't stop what you're doing man, We're all inspired by you.” He wasn't sure if Dylan was taking the piss out of him or serious.
Also, Manilow wrote McDonald's "You Deserve a Break Today" jingle. I remember when Abbie Hoffman tried to turn that into "You Deserve a Brick Today" as a rather stark anti-capitalist message. (In "Steal This Book" they noted you could tape those little "postage paid" cards you get in magazines to a brick and the company'd be obligated to pay - I think that rule's changed. Anyway, Peter Coyote of the Diggers wasn't thrilled to have Hoffman publish a book giving away all his secrets. #Digblog.
Hey, did you know Manilow's Jewish? he says he only did 1 bathhouse with Bette Midler (she was probably the only female), but then he was married once as well. Anyway, a perfect campy pair.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 04/05/2017 - 5:42pm
1) Hey, did you know Oscar Wilde was gay?
Are you being serious? Even if you're not, might as well get into it a bit because it's one of my favorite topics. He's like the stereotype of a British "queen" with quotes, and known as such when he was alive, too. This 1882 Royal Worcester teapot (photo source AIC) was widely known to refer to him and his Aesthetic Movement "queers," it is of a character from Gilbert & Sullivan that parodied them:
Being gay is actually what killed him, he went downhill fast & died after being convicted of gross indecency and serving a term for that hard labor
Very tragic, as many victims of England's homosexuality laws were. Father of the computer, Alan Turing, had a very similar tragic story.
It's the classic Greek & Brit kind of homosexuality, he treasured his wife and children and was exceedingly tender with them but passionately loved only men. This interchange (from the above link) from his first trial is probably the most famous description of that style of homosexuality:
One of the things I have always found interesting about his homosexuality and "queerness" is his American lecture tours which went across the country including in some rough pioneer areas. Everywhere he went he was welcomed and Americans of all types were enthralled to meet him. Americans of the time were clueless about what the Brits knew and understood about him and other "queers", they just thought that kind of behavior meant: high class intellectual, and they were hungry for it. Quite different from like the eternal Harriet Beeche Stowe knockoff. To go to an Oscar Wilde lecture was like the bee's knees, you were no longer like born in a barn, had sophisticated tastes.
2) Hey, did you know Manilow's Jewish?
I was trying to be politically correct by talking about a pixie type of straight NYC guy, leaving out that word. It's a known stereotype. Think Woody Allen as a variant, though not exactly the same. Actually more common in the burbs, like Westchester and NJ. One would describe such a person as "like, you know, Barry Manilow, like a good bar mitzvah boy." (There was sometimes a guest character on SNL on the In The News segment, Jacob the bar mitzvah boy.) Manilow screams classic "good Jewish boy" more than he does "gay."
by artappraiser on Wed, 04/05/2017 - 9:04pm
Hmm, screams good boy like Liberace in furs? I see Wilde and Rimbaud as twin genius literary flamers set across the channel, as 1 impression, more vivant than the sickly Proust. But yeah, Queen Vic came out barely veiled - back in the parlors the fun begins.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/06/2017 - 1:28am
HAHAHAAHAH
I cannot help but recall Liberace's libel claim in England.
hahahahahAH
Does the Pope shit in.....?
WHAT?
by Richard Day on Wed, 04/05/2017 - 7:18pm
seems to fit this thread:
There's more images @ the link, the media there really isn't sure which one has been banned.
I can't believe they are still doing the old Soviet mental institution thing with artists. (Moscow Times' tweet says sentenced the culprit to compulsory psychiatric care.)
not the least of which because some of the oligarchs are sponsoring and supporting some pretty avant garde art and performances (like this one in late Feb. in "Moscow’s hip Red October district"), albeit non-political. In Soviet times, psychiatry was used to try to control "dangerous" artistic styles, what they were trying to "reform" in such artists was much more complex. They weren't afraid to just attack straight out political dissidence directly.
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/06/2017 - 3:30am
Do you sleep?
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/06/2017 - 5:54am
Oh yeah, sometimes for days at a time, hence the crack I made on another thread about stimulants. Am a natural (inherited) night owl forced to live in an unfriendly morning friendly world, forever jet lagged and treading water trying to stay afloat, managing to rob Peter to pay Paul while brain fogged, and wasting my few good hours being a news junkie at night.
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/06/2017 - 7:50pm
Don't these autocrats understand that trying to ban a meme only makes it stronger? See also http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/10/turkey-cartoonists-uni...
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 04/06/2017 - 10:23am
Quote by Nietzsche's press agent? Vladdy should just let his inner Gaultier hang out.Besides, bare-chested on horseback is so 1970's - the scene's moved on.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 04/06/2017 - 10:39am
I dunno about that, I think the horse picture was pretty hot, the stuff of gay fantasy, that's the one they shoulda banned if the idea of a gay man having an orgasm over another upsets them.
And maybe they just don't like the clown part? You know, the hetereo man love thing and all...
by artappraiser on Thu, 04/06/2017 - 7:54pm