"Indigenous People's Day of Rage" protests

By artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:07am |

There is also supposed to be a social media blackout, supposed to be "IPOC" posting only (so Liz Warren can still do it?)

one more thing, this has been going around for awhile and i thought i’d share this on here as well ! :) October 12 is Indigenous People’s Day and people are saying that if you ARENT indigenous, do not post on that day because it’s a blackout for us :)
— Layla (@layyllawastaken) October 10, 2020

this is to spread awareness of what has been happening in the Native American Culture :) it’s also for the non-ipoc (indigenous people of color) to listen to us & stay quiet. that is what the blackout is for !! it’s also for us to reclaim what we have lost :)
— Layla ♡ (@layyllawastaken) October 10, 2020

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Indigenous People’s Day is coming. Please check how you can pay “rent” to the Indigenous peoples whose land you are on, especially if you are a settler. Thank you
— Dr. Jessica B. Hernandez (@doctora_nature) October 9, 2020

Because tomorrow is an important day. Indigenous People's Day. pic.twitter.com/4c4dexmo0g
— ShadowWolf (@shadowwolf0590) October 11, 2020

dont wait for indigenous people's day (in 5 days) to make noise to show support. talk about hawaii. talk about how america had no right to invade it. talk about how capitalism enabled this colonization, they knew it'd be a tourist hotspot once flights were streamlined. https://t.co/1ZrHNC2BIi
— star hydrogen (@starsense_) October 7, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:14am

Now Lincoln. The second statue is toppled in downtown Portland pic.twitter.com/dizgPMkFgf
— Sergio Olmos (@MrOlmos) October 12, 2020

The teddy roosevelt statue in downtown Portland has been taken down by protestors
— Sergio Olmos (@MrOlmos) October 12, 2020

currently sitting in my dorm and crying while thinking about the Indigenous People’s Day of Rage protest that happened in Portland tonight. god I wish I could’ve been there to see the statues of teddy roosevelt and abe lincoln taken down. it’s fuck colonizers till the day I die.
— jazkia (@jazkiaphillips) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:16am

Word just in from my Brother Johnny Danger
Giant Teddy Roosevelt Statue just got pulled down at Indigenous People’s Day of Rage! Large 500+ strong crowd marching in Portland! LAND BACK chants! Native women are praying & singing?!!!

YES?!
— Thunder Walks About (@notaxiwarrior) October 12, 2020

Part of a thread

Bye bye colonizer Teddy Roosevelt is not an idol and this is stolen land. #PortlandProtest #PdxProtest #indigenouspeoplesday2020 #SafePdx
— not too shabby gabby (@PDXGabs) October 12, 2020

Another colonizer bites the dust! Abraham Lincoln used abolition to further his economic political agenda, NOT a to liberate Black lives. #PortlandProtest #PdxProtest #indigenouspeoplesday2020 #SafePdx
— not too shabby gabby ✨ (@PDXGabs) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:31am

Teddy Roosevelt stole Portland? Bastard.

Lincoln - just another pump-and-dump investment manager

Life was a picnic back then

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/travel/article9091931.html

A movable feast?

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-dec-20-me-55814-story.html

Banks of the Mississippi - Mark Twain!

https://overmanwarrior.blog/2013/06/01/the-lost-cannibals-of-cahokia-why...

Glory years

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narv%C3%A1ez_expedition

Should have left the Americas with the peaceloving natives

https://listverse.com/2016/12/20/10-horrors-of-aztec-ritual-human-sacrifice/amp/

https://www.historyextra.com/period/ancient-history/how-many-people-did-...

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:54am

Just some pile-on for this point: Should have left the Americas with the peaceloving natives

In the Southwest they captured and kept and traded slaves all the time:

Indian Slavery Once Thrived in New Mexico. Latinos Are Finding Family Ties to It.

And it wasn't just in New Mexico area, he is just using New Mexican genetics to start the narrative which, as it develops offers the history and points in the direction of further research.

It's a NYTimes piece from 2018 and I posted excerpts here, use the title in search here to find links to those.

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:21am

OregonLive.com reporting on the Portland statues protest:

Portland protesters topple statues of Theodore Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln in ‘Day of Rage’; police declare riot https://t.co/eOxsrZbXfz
— Tom McGregor (@tmcgregorchina) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:33am

Mike Baker for the NYTimes: Protesters in Portland Topple Statues of Lincoln and Roosevelt

The demonstrations highlighted a mass execution overseen by Abraham Lincoln and also targeted Theodore Roosevelt.

Oct. 12, 2020 Updated 7:20 p.m. ET

SEATTLE — Protesters in Portland, Ore., swept through the city on Sunday night, toppling statues of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt and damaging the entrance to the Oregon Historical Society in a demonstration against colonization and the treatment of Native Americans.

Protests around the country this year have mainly targeted statues featuring slave owners and symbols of the Confederacy, but the demonstrators in Portland focused on the 1920s statues of the former presidents as part of a protest billed as an “Indigenous Peoples Day of Rage.”

President Trump seized on the toppling of the statues on Monday morning, citing the destruction as a reason to vote for him next month. “The Radical Left fools in Portland don’t want any help from real Law Enforcement which we will provide instantaneously,” he wrote on Twitter. “Vote!”

Lincoln has long been celebrated as the president who brought an end to slavery in the United States, but the protesters sprayed the base of his statute in Portland with “Dakota 38” — a reference to the largest mass execution in U.S. history, in which 38 Dakota Indians were sent to the gallows in 1862, accused of killing settlers in raids.

Lincoln had signed the execution order. He had also expressed worry about the rapid speed and lack of evidence presented at military tribunals that led to the death sentences; he commuted the sentences of 265 others who had been tried.

credit Mason Trica for NYTimes

credit Mason Trica for NYTimes

Roosevelt has been scrutinized over his opinions about racial hierarchy and his role in the Spanish-American War. He endorsed eugenics proposals. He was quoted as saying it would be better if almost all Native Americans were dead.

Mayor Ted Wheeler was among those who criticized Sunday’s destruction. He was joined at a news conference by Tawna D. Sanchez, a Native American state legislator who lives in Portland. She said that those who want to change the city’s statues could do that through city processes.

“We don’t have to do it by tearing things down, because it’s not helping,” she said.

Statues have remained an area of focus around the country. In Santa Fe, N.M., on Monday, protesters toppled an obelisk that was inscribed to honor people who died battling “savage” Indians. [....]

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 10:15pm

#ArtNews: Last night in #Portland after breaking the windows of the Oregon Historical Society/@OrHist building, a #Bicentennial #Quilt made by 15 #AfricanAmerican women in 1976 was stolen & damaged by #BLM/#Antifa rioters—the same people who say #BlackLivesMatter! https://t.co/6rs2c7lbte
— Mark Vallen (@mark_vallen) October 12, 2020

1] #ArtNews: Sunday evening #BlackLivesMatter & #Antifa vandalized #Portland's historic trompe l’oeil #murals painted in 1989 on face of Oregon Historical Society/@OrHist building. #Mural shows #LewisAndClarkExpedition—to leftists a symbol of colonialism. https://t.co/xSqKlCGFsT pic.twitter.com/wMlSOGoQtE
— Mark Vallen (@mark_vallen) October 12, 2020

2] The #LewisAndClarkExpedition mural damaged by #Portland leftists was painted by #artist Richard Haas [https://t.co/nPf57N12NX]. This video shows the #mural painted under the direction of Hass. View the entire Oregon Historical Society/@OrHist film here: https://t.co/XE4kXqRozO pic.twitter.com/EYOj4QHvYW
— Mark Vallen (@mark_vallen) October 12, 2020

the protesters did major damage to Oregon Historical Society, video:

CORRECTION: Source for this video—@NDpendentPDX, apologizes for misidentifying the Oregon Historical Society/@OrHist building as the Portland Art Museum.
— Mark Vallen (@mark_vallen) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 11:05pm

Among the damage to the Oregon Historical Society last night: the theft of the Afro-American Heritage Bicentennial Commemorative Quilt. It was later located blocks away from the building, soaked by rain. https://t.co/5XkpFCdZwg
— Willamette Week (@wweek) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Sat, 10/17/2020 - 1:27am

Until this summer, Kristin Calhoun never had to remove a statue that'd been knocked down by Portland citizens.

Now, it's become an almost regular occurrence. https://t.co/yWfF91UfXM
— Willamette Week (@wweek) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Sat, 10/17/2020 - 1:33am

Indigenous People Day of Rage Against Colonialism Protest, Flagstaff AZ 10/11/2020 pic.twitter.com/0kaUek9nKS
— sam she/her (@csmanningg) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:17am

Take special notice, streams and cameras are not appropriate at the Indigenous People's Day of Rage. https://t.co/YauBMHLe1y
— Weaponized Degenerate (@Occupy_PDX) October 11, 2020

NYC! Indigenous People's Day Of Rage, McCarren Park at 3pm. https://t.co/USaiODGBjv
— SoSAmericaNow11/4 (@SoSAmericaNow) October 11, 2020

#Seattle #seattleprotest #seattleprotests #seattleprotestcomms #DefundSPD

Help spread the word and come out to the John T Williams Memorial this Sunday at 2pm for the Indigenous People's Day of Rage https://t.co/SHonn83osC pic.twitter.com/d45Nro6iMg
— (@AnarchoSeattle) October 8, 2020

Indigenous People's Day is Monday. Day of Rage is tommorow#IndigenousPeoplesDay pic.twitter.com/lPf0QBMIUg
— Geordie3.5% (@geordie_obrien) October 11, 2020

Join us!
Every Sat: Carson Leg (PLM)
10/9: PERCh Solidarity Crosswalk
10/10: A People's Summit
10/11: Indigenous Peoples' Day of Rage Against Colonialism
10/14: PERCh Digital Welcome Party
10/20: Washoe County Commission - New Normal Forum
10/30: PERCh Special Halloween Event pic.twitter.com/joqK1CXR0P
— PERCh (@PERChReno) October 9, 2020

see thread on this one:

I'll be out tonight covering this protest for the @DailyEmerald. Promotions for the event that I've seen have said this is being hosted by an autonomous group w/o further details. pic.twitter.com/x0uIByu6Fu
— C. Francis O’Dreary (@CFrancisOLeary) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:25am

Cross link to Peracle's

"Mexico asks Aztecs to apologize for ripping people's hearts out and tossing virgins into volcanos"

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 2:47am

Should throw in a couple examples as an acknowledgement that there is a large anti-ragist faction, so as not to stereotype:

#RainierValleyMidwives wishes you a Happy Indigenous Peoples' Day!

REMINDER: Our #virtuallactationlounge is canceled for today. Please join us again NEXT Monday from 1pm-3pm! pic.twitter.com/taigk55k2J
— Rainier Valley Midwives (@MyRVCC_RVM) October 12, 2020

How You Can Acknowledge Indigenous Peoples' Day This Year https://t.co/nC6KmLBTSj
— O The Oprah Magazine (@oprahmagazine) October 12, 2020

Five Ideas for Celebrating Indigenous Peoples’ Day 2020https://t.co/EZRRUJr7q4
— NMOST Network (@NMOSTNetwork) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:00am

House Made of Dawn - great book. At least left me haunted.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Made_of_Dawn

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:04am

I find a lot of Native American culture to be hauntingly beautiful, and that's not an uncommon sentiment, appreciation of it actually crosses a lot of political lines. So the mystery is: why are so many "Indigenous Peoples Day" memes so cheesy?

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 5:27pm

Cuz Momaday wrote 50-60 years ago when people were more serious?

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 7:16pm

I'll be introducing and moderating a panel on "Monumental Injustice in the Americas" for #IndigenousPeoplesDay @UMich - register at https://t.co/1XnvfhKVZ7 pic.twitter.com/dNVQ5Rvm1U
— Erin L. Thompson (@artcrimeprof) October 8, 2020

The speaker lineup is amazing. We'll hear from Andrea Queeley of @FIU, who examines contestations over monuments to Spanish and European conquistadors, e.g. Columbus and Ponce de Leon, in the Caribbean and U.S. https://t.co/GPnjmEbst3
— Erin L. Thompson (@artcrimeprof) October 8, 2020

Then, Olivia Chilcote of @SDSU, who has studied the toppling of monuments to Junipero Serra in the context of the legacy of the mission mythology entrenched in California society. https://t.co/O6N26z39NW
— Erin L. Thompson (@artcrimeprof) October 8, 2020

And (yey!) @analuciaraujo_ of @HowardU, who has looked at transnational responses to monuments, memorials and museums of slavery, and the contestations over the memory of slavery and the legacy of white-supremacy. https://t.co/lxqvJ8FeD4
— Erin L. Thompson (@artcrimeprof) October 8, 2020

And finally, Vanessa Fonseca-Chavez of @ASU, who’s been sorting out the local, national, and transnational meanings assigned to the monument to Juan de Oñate in New Mexico – and to its removal. https://t.co/ceo7leKmni
— Erin L. Thompson (@artcrimeprof) October 8, 2020

(Mho, so far from what I've read by her, Prof. Thompson is a real pill, an Inspector Javert type who thinks anyone who wants to own art or antiques has criminal intent and needs to be thoroughly investigated to the ends of the earth. Better yet, if they're not Marxist, just prosecute them and lock em up , lock their culturally appropriating asses up. But that's another thing. A lot of archeologist types think like that, they think only they should get to touch the antiques, yo see....)

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:54am

The point of posting the above: in case you haven't paid attention, like it or not, this is the type of thing the children have been learnin in college for at least the past couple decades. And this is also the kind of thing that gets you tenure, you have to have the right message to your research.

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 4:32am

We're lucky no one as organized as Pol Pot is on the scene (yet).

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 8:59am

Must admit that the word zealotry does come to mind in some of my Twitter travels among academics.

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 5:53pm

just started trending on Twitter under "Politics":

#IndigenousPeoplesDay

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:59am

Competing Italian-American politicians and their chosen magic statue symbols on Oct. 12:

Proud to unveil the Mother Cabrini Memorial in NYC today.

From establishing hospitals to educating poor immigrants, Mother Cabrini never stopped helping others.

May this statue serve to remind us of the values she embodied: Compassion, community, freedom, faith, hope & love. pic.twitter.com/yxcAiDj7bj
— Andrew Cuomo (@NYGovCuomo) October 12, 2020

Stopped by the Christopher Columbus Statue in Philadelphia, PA and spoke to a great crowd of patriots! Happy Columbus Day! pic.twitter.com/yc4Z6xMp4Y
— Rudy W. Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:40pm

Splainer, including why Columbus Day started out basically as "Italian American Immigrant Day":

For more on the history see https://t.co/Ti6dge7470 https://t.co/wKQvHo0gzy
— Malinda Maynor Lowery (@malindalowery) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:44pm

Cuomo's message in the video is very savvy. In pointing to "look we have this other Italian-Catholic-Immigrant American we can honor," it's also basically pointing out how rage protesting is often stupidly divisive and counterproductive, how it's better to look outside the box to go high when others go low and try to unite or at least not irritate another "tribe."

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 3:58pm

Alright, who was this Mother Cabrini, and what were her tawdry little secrets? Ever since wasshisname, right, Christopher Hitchens, trashed Mother Teresa with "where's all the donations?" (and frankly since I read All the King's Men), I realize there's something on everyone.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2003/10/the-fanatic-fraudulent-mothe...

by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 4:16pm

should that be the case, for one thing fugged what I said about Cuomo going high, I think he might punch em in the eye don't you dare say that about my mudder

But yeah, there are no real human heeeroes, it's all a crock.Use the figure of an actual human being as a symbol, it's a given that someone's going to want to contradict that symbol with truth of their human foibles.

Edit to add: you can move away from the iconoclasm/statue thing here and move on to other kinds of symbol making: I.E. saints defrocked of sainthood for one reason or another at different points in time...

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 4:27pm

The Jesuit tribe's version of Mother Cabrini's story:

A new statue of St. Frances Xavier Cabrini, Patron of Immigrants, was unveiled today in Lower Manhattan by Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Mother Cabrini, who faced prejudice and opposition in New York, was a tireless advocate for immigrants. Story here: https://t.co/6PIIoig9Vs .... pic.twitter.com/nTRw9iGvmR
— James Martin, SJ (@JamesMartinSJ) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 5:35pm

Alright, who has the oppo file on that Jesus fella? Hear there's stuff in there that'll make a nun blanche - surely no Boy Scout. Fight fire with fire.

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 1:47am

As we honor all of Oklahoma's tribes on #IndigenousPeoplesDay, we’re grateful for all of their contributions to our lives. We must stand against the attacks being launched against sovereignty. Oklahoma’s strength comes from its diversity, and the future must represent us all.
— Abby Broyles (@abbybroyles) October 12, 2020

Read more about my thoughts on Tribal Sovereignty and protecting our tribes. https://t.co/Ndh2mH4NWk
— Abby Broyles (@abbybroyles) October 12, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 5:23pm

Protesters pull down controversial obelisk in Santa Fe Plaza

by: KRQE Staff, Brady Wakayama @ KRQE.com, Updated: Oct 12, 2020 / 05:44 PM MDT

HAS SEVERAL VIDEO REPORTS, MANY PHOTOS & PREVIOUS REPORTS ON PLAZA "OCCUPATION"

SANTA FE, N.M. (KRQE) – Santa Fe crews are at the Plaza cleaning up what’s left of the obelisk protestors tore down. A protest at the Santa Fe Plaza got tense on Monday afternoon with protestors toppling the obelisk. It comes after three days of protests, where some chained themselves to the controversial monument; The obelisk has stood there since the 1800s.

“Whether we like it or not history it’s history and any nation that forgets its past has no future,” said Curtis Valdez of Santa Fe.

City workers were constructing a barrier around it Monday to protect it but protestors managed to wrap ropes around it and rip it down. Video from the Santa Fe New Mexican shows no police on-site as protestors took over. Witnesses told the New Mexican that police were there earlier in the day to forcibly remove demonstrators who were laying on the monument but they left. This comes after a three-day occupation at the Plaza, protestors angry that this obelisk still stands.

It was erected in 1866 to honor Civil War-era soldiers who died in battle. It’s been criticized for being oppressive to Native Americans. Earlier this year, Mayor Alan Webber ordered the obelisk removed, it was too heavy, so only the plaque was removed. The mayor promised further discussion on its future. Monday on Indigenous Peoples’ Day, these protestors supporting Native Americans took drastic measures. Some people applaud the move, others are angry.

“I am for the Native Americans and for their rights. And I’ve represented the Navajos in many ways too,” said protestor Lisa Law.

“I think it’s terrible, I think it’s terrible, I mean you’re destroying beauty,” said Elmer Vamhrm, who is opposed to the protesting.

KRQE News 13 reached out to police to see if any arrests have been made but have not heard back. There has also been a very active group in Santa Fe fighting to keep monuments such as this. They argue many are part of our history and its a disservice to the Spanish people to remove such monuments. There have been several counter-protests at sites like the Onate and De Vargas statues [....]

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 10:34pm

Italians notice:

Trump elogia Cristoforo Colombo: “Un grande italiano. Proteggiamo le sue statue dagli antifascisti” https://t.co/Yq5gX1GNdI
— infoitesteri (@infoitesteri) October 13, 2020

meanwhile in Pittsburgh:

Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto said the statue was wrapped at 6 a.m. by public works crews and volunteers on Sunday to protect it from being defaced.https://t.co/blcRvcnrVt
— TribLIVE.com (@TribLIVE) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 10:45pm

Blackhawks Statue Outside of United Center Vandalized Over Weekend, Team Says https://t.co/ebYLkbRLHv pic.twitter.com/RZIjl4jJkj
— NBC Chicago (@nbcchicago) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 10:46pm

Happy Indigenous People’s Day! This is a statue of Junipero Serra from unceded Miwok territory pic.twitter.com/bxEorTGSJq
— Philip K WAP (@TinyAssembly) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 11:13pm

what the heck, he's a white male, throw him in with the zeitgeist:

Social justice advocates want statue of Pete Wilson removed from downtown San Diego https://t.co/berOAdi0PP
— Los Angeles Times (@latimes) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 11:15pm

And then they came for Howard Cosell, and there was no one left to speak up for him - and oddly he was quiet, perhaps for the first time in memory. - Fallen Heroes

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 1:50am

really lol now, ah gawd what a world we're in

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 1:58am

lol. NCD, is that you?

I agree with taking down the elk statue. The elk was racist and a nazi. pic.twitter.com/7Ct53SdIe5
— MASTERBASHER (@zaldycoopeee) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 11:18pm

I think I saw a modified swastika in its antlers. And those hooves - total jackboot sound. Brown fur/Brownshirt? We get it, buddy - you didn't have to be so obvious. Not like we're stupid.

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 1:53am

"For us to celebrate a mass murderer, who would rape girls as young as my daughter's age — we have to address that.”

Activists called for the removal of a Columbus statue on the Iowa State Capitol grounds at an Indigenous Peoples’ Day celebration Monday. https://t.co/lG2Pnb7FOi
— Des Moines Register (@DMRegister) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Mon, 10/12/2020 - 11:21pm

Psst - I hear Eve was only 11 when Adam did the dirty - pass it on...

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 1:55am

All the female ancestors of those NA activists were about the same age, just the men were older.

by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 2:39am

In 1925 the KKK opposed an effort to erect a statue of Columbus in Richmond, Va. The Klan lost the argument. In June 2020, protesters toppled the statue, writes @alessabocchi https://t.co/LwWk5OOSqX via @WSJ
— Charles J. LaPorta (@chuckjlaporta) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 12:44pm

I would miss the statue of Columbus in Barcelona overlooking the harbor. What could replace? Franco? Picasso? Nothing.

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 2:10pm

Picasso obviously. Who better to replace Columbus than a likely pedophile. Arta would probably know more about those allegations than I. I only have an amateur's knowledge of art and artists.

by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 3:24pm

Picasso qualifies these days for cancellation for being mentally abusive to women , a #MeToo problem, he liked them young but of age. (I think what people don't get is it probably wasn't a feminist issue, as he was abusive to everyone, the more you were around him, the more abuse!)

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 6:12pm

But he was never called an asshole (at least not in New York)

[skip fwd for Pablo's home drawing master class]

https://youtu.be/Kc2iLAubras

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 6:36pm

Isn't the story that he groomed a 14 year old but waited until she was legal age of 16? While technically he waited until she was of age it's still child sexual abuse in my mind. Though again I've never looked deeply into the story I read some years ago so I have no opinion as to it's veracity. I read a lot so I come across information but I don't always research every story to get the details.

by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 7:18pm

I think you're referring to Marie-Therese Walter. That's the only one of his many paramours that was extra young, he really didn't have pedophilic tendencies, he just found her very inspiring as an example of youthful female fertility, his paintings of her reflect that. She was very naive and uneducated but basically all the others were not. I guess you could say he liked to explore all the different sides of the feminine. He was very self-centered, that's for sure; his women were not chosen to be equals. And honestly, an equal partner for someone like him would be hard to find and if managed, there'd probably be explosions every day and they'd end up killing each other.

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 7:48pm

p.s he trusted her more than the others with personal stuff precisely because she had a dull intellect! He was a user, self-centered.

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 7:51pm

Thanks for the information. I trust you as a knowledgeable authority in this area.

by ocean-kat on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 8:01pm

you're welcome and thanks for the compliment

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 8:24pm

No Statue-Toppling In Talk City by Bill Fulton https://t.co/Yp9bzWyu68 @ThomasMoreSoc
— Peaches88 (@Peaches8_8) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 12:46pm

This is a reprehensible and disgusting act committed by cowards looking for a cause. This is our Chicago - act like it! pic.twitter.com/zXusEbJxve
— Ald. Raymond Lopez (@RLopez15thWard) October 13, 2020

by artappraiser on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 12:51pm

Meanwhile on the brighter side:

Today, Chief Hoskin joined Northeastern State University, City of Tahlequah and other tribal leaders to celebrate Indigenous Peoples’ Day with an unveiling of the masked Sequoyah statue at Centennial Square on the NSU campus among other activities. Osda! pic.twitter.com/fYMXt0g6pZ
— CherokeeNation (@CherokeeNation) October 12, 2020

I spent a couple or few hours of Indigenous Day exploring The Cherokee Nation's website and twitter feed. Interesting and informative. Check it out.

by EmmaZahn on Tue, 10/13/2020 - 5:09pm

From CVille - seems she's playing nice

https://native-land.ca/

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/14/2020 - 7:05am

Until one looks at that map, one has no idea how tribal the human race once was.

by artappraiser on Wed, 10/14/2020 - 3:00pm

Yes, and most of those tribes were at war with their neighbors. It was a comparably low tech low death count war with bows and spears instead of guns and bombs but war none the less.

by ocean-kat on Wed, 10/14/2020 - 4:22pm

"Indigenous People's Day of Rage" protests

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