MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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"Privilege"
By artappraiser on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 2:07pm |Another example of White Privilege. Oops. Another example of how things can turn out if you can afford expensive lawyers.
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by artappraiser on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 2:10pm
Then there's the privilege for felons living in a city with lenient prosecutors; he's counting, he's got tweets on all 58 before this one (I may be wrong, but I don't think a single one had white skin, if there were any, it was one or two):
by artappraiser on Fri, 12/17/2021 - 2:29pm
seen from another angle
by artappraiser on Sat, 12/18/2021 - 1:39pm
poster boy for how to fuck up using privilege
by artappraiser on Mon, 12/27/2021 - 5:11pm
Leading from his behind (is #TakeASeat trending?)
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 12/27/2021 - 6:31pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 12/27/2021 - 7:01pm
cross-link to story of another privileged white guy "getting off easy"
by artappraiser on Tue, 12/28/2021 - 8:07pm
cross-link to real privilege, getting away with murder due to cop incompetence. rule of law is not something to shake a fist at...goes all ways...
by artappraiser on Wed, 12/29/2021 - 7:15pm
No white privilege here - white woman gets 93 days in the hoosegow after giggling and smirking during victim family statement. Do note the many whypipple who are supportive of the action in the replies on twitter to the point of saying they would like to see more of the same; yes, I do believe they would like to see ALL people be in fear and awe of our justice system-guess that's their little idiosyncrasy and they're sticking to it?
by artappraiser on Wed, 12/29/2021 - 7:43pm
Hard agree:
Economic class, job class and generation-from-immigration-date, if any, are examples that are far more defining as to identity and more fruitful for political analysis. And those also deal very strongly with "privilege"
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/12/2022 - 5:29pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/13/2022 - 11:41pm
9x longer than George Floyd in a much worse position - why no protests?
https://reason.com/2022/01/14/qualified-immunity-police-misconduct-hogti...
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/16/2022 - 5:26am
#1, No viral video to pump emotions
#2. Doesn't pump any favored woke narrative. (Especially lacking the crucial skin color factor)
#3. Didn't happen during a fast developing pandemic with bored young people stuck at home without socialization
Edit to add: Reason magazine has a consistently libertarian ethos, while the BLM movement, on the other hand, was loathe to admit to the cognitive dissonance and illogic of its calls for defunding blue city law enforcementl that was a very libertarian self-protection thing. The result: massive increase in gun ownership in expectation of breakdown in rule of law.
It's commonly rather difficult to combine libertarian ethos with being a pro-big-government Democrat, you're either one or the other, they contradict. Being pro-law-and-order, rather than pro-wild-west, always did have a better fit with classic liberal Democratic principles. It's fucking odd and basically a travesty that conservative Republicans ending up owning that meme.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/16/2022 - 5:52pm
p.s. I think the effect of viral video from cell phones, especially of unlawful activity, is still massively underestimated.
Orwell got the syndrome
but not this part: extremely populist, chaotic-anarchic and libertarian
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/16/2022 - 6:01pm
The law-breaking/citizens investigating dyad over Jan 6 is especially intriguing.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/16/2022 - 6:16pm
Anyone with brains could predict this was going to happen:
I am getting bad memories of the word Tuskegee being used for all manner of discussions on Dagblog.
Anyone who is surprised that Trump picked up on this is a fool. He's expert at picking out 'privilege' memes among the bigger culture warriors library and flipping them to victim memes; it's one of the things he does best. It's a basic Trump tool going back to before he was in politics and in politics it gains him many acolytes that are not natural Republicans.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/16/2022 - 7:35pm
A good question about nurture not nature -
To paraphrase Carville: It's the culture, stupids.
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/17/2022 - 4:25pm
um, who exactly are the racists in the U.S.?
Ever consider the possibility that NOT being a racist is one way people gain what's called "privilege"? And the tribal, racist types are the ones a lot of other people and institutions disdain?
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/19/2022 - 2:37am
There was an article in American Affairs journal that asked aloud why race relations in the United States are so intractable. After all, there is a sizeable amount of African migrants all across Europe and other parts of the world and it seems to hardly ever be the major social issue anywhere but the United States.
I always thought that population demographics explain a lot about racial politics in the United States. The white population has been declining for a very, very long time. This should explain the lack of a cohesive narrative for a demographic that doesn't even think that reproducing itself or keeping its families together and safe is of any value.
The black American population does not decline or grow. It stays static, at about the same ratio of the general population from back in the Wendall Wilkey's time to now. This should explain why black America's narratives are so myopic, ignorant and self-obsessive - it's a population that largely stays in the same place and just lets the rest of the world move around it. Even if the rest of the world is struggling as it moves, all black America sees are a whole bunch of people moving while they sit still. Hince "privilege."
Then there is the Hispanic population. Much like the Muslim population in France (where statistics on race are banned), the official statistics likely hide how large the Hispanic population in the US really is. Donald Trump knew this. It's why he flirted with anti-black racism while Obama was still president but ran on fear of a growing Hispanic population as president.
by Orion on Thu, 01/20/2022 - 3:35pm
Static by region the last 20-25 years
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_racial_and_ethnic_demographic...(1790%E2%80%932020)
And Pew Research says they're changing and growing
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/03/25/the-growing-diversi...
Who knows what drives what - i blame it on the Internet.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 01/20/2022 - 3:04pm
In a country that as a whole has become diverse and intermarried, the ratio of population that identifies as black is not dramatically higher than it was in 1940:
In 2020:
At their core, at least a sizeable portion of African Americans don't actually think that anything has changed since 1940s and that most white Americans, even if they are immigrants from Syria or Kazahkstan, are Ku Klux Klan until proven otherwise and that other minority groups that are perplexed by that outlook just don't understand their experience. The fact that that Syrian immigrant might be thinking more about his own issues is a bit too complex for such an outlook.
It's not a rational outlook and doesn't make a whole lot of sense but good luck ever challenging it.
We spend a disproportionate amount of time obsessing over the issues of a population that, over centuries, hasn't even cracked 15% of the population. The popular narratives of many African American intellectuals like Ibram X. Kendi or Ta-Nehesi Coates even tacitly admit that this obsessing has been a big waste of time, because, despite all of it, America is as systemically racist as ever. The problem is intractable and unchangeable and we should reverse integration altogether in exchange for "intentional spaces" and pushing back "whiteness." According to such people, not only has nothing changed since 1940 but we need to bring back the segregation of that era too.
I have heard African Americans call African immigrants "privileged" and I've seen racial tension in workplaces where there were literally no white people. The problem is with the people who say there is a problem. They don't know how to live without the problem and are interested in making sure it extends as long as possible, because they know a world that moves on will move on from them.
by Orion on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 11:05am
Huh? Look at black by region - African–Americans as percentage of total population (1790–2020) by U.S. state. Huge shifts. You miss it in aggregate.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 01/20/2022 - 6:47pm
Any change in regional demographics over that time period probably accounts for the Great Migration. Subsequently, the small increase in population from 1940s to now likely accounts for the Baby Boom generation, in which the population swelled across the board in the US.
Beyond that, there is no growth, and oddly enough (unlike white America) no real decline either, among African Americans. They are generally just in the same place as 1940 and that's why black intellectuals sound like it's still 1940 even if everyone else thinks the moon and the stars themselves have changed since then.
There is a strength and a sort of conservatism to African Americans stay so resolute in what they say about themselves.
by Orion on Wed, 01/26/2022 - 9:43pm
Please look at the numbers I've posted in the 2 links. There's been a halt and reverse migration - not as huge as the first, but still. When the Rust Belt had problems, a lot of change. They are *not* just in th same place as 1940.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 11:45am
From Pew, nearly half of black households made over $50k, # of black Bachelor degrees doubled since 2000 (23% have degrees, 9% have advanced degrees), migration out of the South bottomed out in the 1970s and increased slightly since, likely reflecting on Civil Rights gains, overall acceptance, improved jobs there, and perhaps downturns in Midwest and Northeast markets. And quite frankly, it's hard to freeze to death in the South, however bad it all gets. Median age for blacks rose 5 years to 35 since 2000 (more conservative now?), 25% are GenZ plus 10% are immigrants.
But if I look at the Wikipedia link, significant increase of black percentage around the Rust Belt states since the 70s and before, perhaps more due to decrease in white population heading south to Texas et al (including non-union auto plants in Alabama/Tennessee). Georgia fared better than other southern states, kind of obviously.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 01/27/2022 - 4:07am
One data point, re: African immigrants to the U.S.
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 12:13am
appreciate all the input very much, Orion; very interesting to have the thoughts of someone with your independent political sympathies and history and in your age group with your experience on the west coast
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 12:32am
Thanks!
Here is something I will admit: while there is no growth in population, African Americans somehow avoid the steep decline of white America. That means there may be a sort of strength to the mentality, at least as far as dealing with white America is concerned. When America is one day populated by immigrants who have no inclination or historical reason to care about their grievances, you may hear something different.
by Orion on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 11:25am
Since both Orion and PP are discussing the percentage of "blacks" in the population, actually the news on that front as far as the 2020 CENSUS SAYS THEY WENT DOWN IN PERCENTAGE of the population
FWIW the number is no longer around 13% it's 12.4%
from census.gov (note that there are probably a greater number of people choosing to declare themselves mixed race, while others, like say, of Puerto Rican heritage with dark skin might chose to declare as Hispanic, etc.)
even if one has some belief in conspiracy theories about the 2020, like it or not, that's the percentage that's going to be used now by political pollsters and the like and in legal situations, etc.
Personally I suspect any changes in percentage of racial identification are mostly due to changing sensibilities towards racial I.D. than like, Trumpsters screwing it up. People were still allowed to chose what race they report as they have long done, it's not like the census taker was deciding for them what race they are.
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 4:41pm
Latino immigrants basically think they've become privileged!?!
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 5:46pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 5:52pm
Would be nice:
Mho, this is more than just horseshit, though, it's reinforcement of fantasies of paranoid victimology....
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 6:55pm
The Economist says it aloud, with a poll to back it up
with this conclusion:
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/21/2022 - 11:55pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/30/2022 - 11:31pm
Uh, no, it shows perhaps MSNBC is welcoming.
But it does make a point that we extrapolate micro experiences to the entity at large. A European intern has a great summer in New York, maybe a side trip to Florida or Utah, so she thinks all of America is grand.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/31/2022 - 1:30am
edit to add from the TMZ article ...She was an attorney and after winning the title, she also worked as a correspondent for Extra.She used her Miss USA platform to speak out about social and criminal justice reform. She once joined us on "TMZ Live" to discuss that very topic....
BUT this is her self-description on her Twitter account I interview famous people for a living. Also, shop my store. New York, NY shop.whitecollarglam.com
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/31/2022 - 5:13am
But she seemed to be having fun (more than lawyering) and quite together.
(the Met Gala didn't seem like hardship...)
While her description of microaggression wasn't serious rankled, just annoyed. A sad event in whatever case.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/31/2022 - 5:57am
If she doesn't have a sense of privilege, I don't know who does, reminds me of Putin in a way:
this guy's comment, while expressed with a racist attitude, is nonetheless is making a strong point:
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/20/2022 - 8:09pm
p.s. It goes way beyond a "Karen", it's more like a term my mother used to use, from a phrase probably learned from the radio in the Depression as a child of Polish-speaking immigrants on a farm: "who do you think you are, the 'Queen of Sheba'?"
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/20/2022 - 8:16pm
Conclusion: "white privilege" is a made-up bullshit narrative. It has nothing to do with race. The correct narrative for these stories: some people act like they think they are the Queen of Sheba and are owed kowtowing to their needs and other don't. Probably the demographic with the largest percentage of people who act like this are not "white women", but "two-year-old humans."
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/20/2022 - 8:54pm
More has-money-for-good-lawyers PRIVILEGE:
by artappraiser on Mon, 03/07/2022 - 12:44pm
Whole thread on the privileged white women from back in the day when they were part of the British Empire, colonizing and oppressing
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/11/2022 - 12:31pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/17/2022 - 5:58am
by artappraiser on Fri, 03/18/2022 - 9:02pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/28/2022 - 9:11pm
rich, white, with an elite degree, and expressing remorse:
by artappraiser on Fri, 06/17/2022 - 2:01am
white rich people get away with everthing in this systemically racist society:
by artappraiser on Tue, 06/28/2022 - 4:24pm
Spot on! Calling out black privilege, an incredibly clueless sense of entitlement and playing the race card.
I for one am so incredibly sick of this kind of shit from young people. It especially bites when they have expensive and time-consuming hair weaves and manicures, before current times the likes which only were worn by a high-ranking Mandarin noble of olde who never touched manual labor of any kind.
And these are exactly the kind of people that make fun of the sense of entitlement of white "Karen's" who are dressed like soccer moms and haven't had time to comb their hair. I would never have even conceived of the idea that that kind of lifestyle was available to me. Where so many get the idea that they too are entitled to be a "real housewife of Beverly Hills" with servants to tend to their every need and somebody else paying the bills? They don't have a clue how much those women in reality had to "give" to get in that fictional position. It's like it's owed to them!
by artappraiser on Sat, 08/13/2022 - 4:26pm
I wonder if Dyjuan realizes he's complaining about black "police" arresting a brownish guy with a Hispanic name who felt entitled to break the park rules:
(and do check out the video version at the top of the page where he doesn't seem all that angry or upset as Dyjuan that he was caught being a naughty boy)
by artappraiser on Sat, 08/13/2022 - 4:37pm
um also seems like Diyuan doesn't let reading interfere with his narrative, all of these points contradict it
by artappraiser on Sat, 08/13/2022 - 4:48pm
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yes, black privilege in the coverage, people have to dig for photos of the criminals -
by artappraiser on Mon, 08/22/2022 - 4:06pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/23/2022 - 7:26pm