Woke and Cancel Culture Gone Wild, Chapter III

    By artappraiser on Wed, 03/08/2023 - 2:51pm |

    “In much of the Western world, the liberal takeover of institutions is nearly complete. But the revolution isn’t coming.” — @verdur_in observes a reactionary backlash emerging instead https://t.co/7dw6VFWMqz

    — The Critic (@TheCriticMag) March 8, 2023

    (Continued. Chapter II is HERE (locked to new comments)

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    a little simplistic for me but for a general HBO audience, it's probably necessary. Felt the story about the law professor in the middle of the segment was astounding tho. Really I know I could not tolerate taking humanities courses in college now, I really couldn't, I would be steaming angry ever other minute, the amount of bullshit in the whole field is incredible


    by artappraiser on Tue, 08/08/2023 - 11:19pm

    but but but Florida


    by artappraiser on Wed, 08/09/2023 - 6:30am

    Carl shares two nice screenshot pastes of text from a new article at The Atlantic

     


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/10/2023 - 1:37pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/10/2023 - 1:40pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/10/2023 - 7:15pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/10/2023 - 9:47pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 08/14/2023 - 2:30pm

    AOC is getting cancelled by 'The Left' for taking normie liberal stances:

    there's much more, that's just a sampling


    by artappraiser on Mon, 08/14/2023 - 2:40pm

    I think Steve Schmidt likes Jefferson too.

    Odd that people from divergent wings of politics can agree on fundamentals.

    If course this requires a 10-minute divergence on Jefferson's slave/concubine that paralzes most any talk these days.

    Maybe we're winding a bit past that.

    https://youtu.be/ZluOvPKip7U


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 08/15/2023 - 6:39pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 08/14/2023 - 4:31pm


    by artappraiser on Tue, 08/15/2023 - 2:16am

    cannot read til next month but for now BEARS NOTING:


    by artappraiser on Tue, 08/15/2023 - 2:40pm


    by artappraiser on Tue, 08/15/2023 - 3:15pm

    So there's a chicken in every pot just around the corner that pays better? Just gotta "lay some pipe" in a timely way (assume there's a metaphor for the ladies too). 

    Good to know God, family, country is so simple. To think after Hillary lost we sent journos out to fentanyl-laced flyover country to learn from the wisdom of the true American dispossessed, and now we find out they were just self-destructive whiners. How things change in a hurry, makes my head spin.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 08/15/2023 - 6:09pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/17/2023 - 2:07pm

    Actually I thnk it's, "buy it, and still fuck you" 

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/17/2023 - 5:09pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/17/2023 - 7:09pm

    Old white male gets UK art history job!!! (On second thought it prolly was cause no one else wanted it? Gainsborough was last popular in 1920 cheeky)


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/17/2023 - 8:35pm

    2nd prize, *2* weeks in Philadelphia! 


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/17/2023 - 11:31pm

    yes we joke, but only last week Todd Cronan & Charles Palermo were asking readers at The Nation:

    Can a White Curator Do Justice to African Art? Behind the scenes at the New Orleans Museum of Art.


    by artappraiser on Fri, 08/18/2023 - 1:47am

    Oh, sorry I'm sure they're deathly serious. I "it's a black thing, you wouldn't understand" 


    by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 08/18/2023 - 5:40am


    by artappraiser on Fri, 08/18/2023 - 10:16am

    In honor of Canary Islands, Maui, and and whatever the next flashpoint

    Going thru life with rose-pink colored glasses... 


    by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 08/18/2023 - 7:10am


    by artappraiser on Sun, 08/20/2023 - 1:19pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 08/21/2023 - 12:15am

    Actually it's kind of cute. 

    There must be scandals ("There Will Be Blood"?) -better the overwrought tempest-in-teapot ones.

    Now about those bludgeoned baby harp seals... and that recurring Quexit threat... and Margaret Trudeau, jeebus, what was she thinking dancing with Mick at Studio 54, of course people will talk! (and then elect her son PM, well, that's not quite how it usually works...) 


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 08/21/2023 - 6:55am


    by artappraiser on Wed, 08/23/2023 - 1:18pm


    by artappraiser on Wed, 08/23/2023 - 2:47pm

    Boy I am really sick of the Rittenhouse bashing shit from the BLM-protest-supporting left. Here's a good NPR article I just ran across on Community Notes on Twitter

    Updated November 19, 20219:42 PM ET 
     
    it's all summed up in this header in the article:

    ....Rittenhouse had a strong self-defense case....

     


    by artappraiser on Sat, 08/26/2023 - 6:36am

    Put that to bed long ago. 

    Street crazies were chasing after him, and including trying to beat him with a skateboard. He may be clueless, but he still has a right to self defense. 


    by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 08/26/2023 - 8:50am

    It doesn't stop on social media though


    by artappraiser on Sat, 08/26/2023 - 11:52pm

    The police double standard for gun toting righylt wing freaks is annoying tho - similar to police encouragement of Rittenhouse before and after. 


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 08/27/2023 - 11:41pm

    Hah, on the whole Rittenhouse thing:


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 2:03pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 08/27/2023 - 1:45pm

    But I thought A.C.A.B.and protesters didn't want them around:

    Absolute mayhem as counter protesters approach anti-immigrant MAGA protesters outside Gracie Mansion.

    Shocking to no one, NYPD took no measures to keep people safe despite having almost an hour before counter protesters arrived. pic.twitter.com/kw7SH41biu

    — Isabelle Leyva (@isabelle_leyva) August 27, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Sun, 08/27/2023 - 3:06pm

    My Funk 'n Wagnalls defines "absolute mayhem"  a bit different. 


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 08/27/2023 - 10:31pm

    That too, good point. smiley


    by artappraiser on Sun, 08/27/2023 - 11:31pm

    Kind of surprised that I saw these two tweets retweeted by Ryan Campbell, who I follow; he's a successful Black real estate investor in Atlanta, far from a right winger, pretty much an Obama-type Dem but doesn't tweet about politics that much, does mostly real-estate-related news and sports


    by artappraiser on Sun, 08/27/2023 - 11:42pm


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    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 1:49am


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 3:22am


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 2:48pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 5:50pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 6:26pm

    "All the World's a Stage" - Thomas Edison


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/31/2023 - 6:52pm


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/05/2023 - 6:48pm


    by artappraiser on Wed, 09/06/2023 - 3:20am


    by artappraiser on Wed, 09/06/2023 - 4:00am


    by artappraiser on Wed, 09/06/2023 - 4:03am

    Shorter: don't buy their BS, buy *our* BS. New! Improved! 


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 09/07/2023 - 12:38am


    by artappraiser on Sat, 09/09/2023 - 12:24pm

    No one is making 'woke' up, it's real and it's in politics. Here's a Sept. 7 report of what a  Chicago 12th District Councl Member said to the Chicago Police Chief at a meeting:


    by artappraiser on Sat, 09/09/2023 - 2:34pm

    And here's scarcasm making my same point, that it's not made up the right but REAL, a REAL and still very active part of 'progressivism'

    ,

    furthermore this one directly identifies with the 2020 Minneapolis Geo. Floyd protests and with BLM.

    Denial is not a river in Egypt, if you want to disavow this sort as part of the Democratic party,  you have to do strong 'Sister Souljah moments' like Bill Clinton did, no one is going to believe denials that these people exist and are speaking for you

     


    by artappraiser on Mon, 09/11/2023 - 4:45pm

    what a surprise NOT cheeky


    by artappraiser on Mon, 09/11/2023 - 12:13pm

    pretty outrageous

    (irony is that people like me would actually respect the white males in this field who made it through this gauntlet as no doubt the tippy-top best with the bonus that they also know how to play skillful academic politics, dishonest tho that may be)


    by artappraiser on Mon, 09/11/2023 - 11:25pm

    Uh, sorry, what'd you say? I was sitting in the back feeling my white male "privilege". 


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 09/12/2023 - 9:46am


    by artappraiser on Wed, 09/13/2023 - 5:07pm

    Gee you'd almost think some of the things going on in FL schools and similar didn't come out of thin air!


    by artappraiser on Wed, 09/13/2023 - 10:21pm

    History sucks. All reprobates with flawed ethics. 


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 09/14/2023 - 3:30am

    It's worth taking a look at the "scholarship" produced by this center, which has tens of millions of dollars in funding. I thought this was a list of silly-looking papers, but actually it's just a bunch of brief paragraphs describing their stances. https://t.co/KCxbAfFvxN https://t.co/tLyoiERfeM

    — Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi) September 14, 2023

    As some people pointed out, this is just Kendi (MacArthur "Genius Grant" winner)'s own website. Here are the Center's eight-figure-worth accomplishments. https://t.co/SrbM3hM2ui

    — Oliver Traldi (@olivertraldi) September 15, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Thu, 09/14/2023 - 8:16pm

    The BU Center serves an important function, putting a tech data sheen on all facets of common interests to turn bland advocacy topics into "research". Their review focuses down on data use in basketball so people of color have a chance of understanding, but then they move on to other critical areas like "youth risk behavior surveys to prevent substance misuse, studies of school climate to improve conditions for LGBTQ+ students" and presumably "how to ignore rampant gun use and unchecked criminality in the destruction of urban American neighborhoods".

    Extrapolating from Moneyball 20 years ago, the new take on data science can be extended beyond white privileged Brad Pitt managers and Jewish number crunchers like Jonah Hill to areas that black people can appreciate, such as a moving realtime measurement of microagression similar to FitBit. The BU Center rescues data science, "the new Liberal Arts" (which relies on computers and more & more AI to number crunch literally everything rather than archaic books to read about and understand the social fabric of the world), from the confines of more white-obsessed areas like medicine, neurology, finance & algorithmic trading into furthering the embedding of DEI theology, sorry, techniques and tailored approaches, and quotas into all facets of human life, and being able to visualize that success.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 09/14/2023 - 11:29pm

    Are there ANY climate protesters out there who are not pea brains about productive protest methods?


    by artappraiser on Fri, 09/15/2023 - 8:23pm

    The path to utopia is a bit roughshod.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 09/16/2023 - 2:37am


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    by artappraiser on Sat, 09/16/2023 - 3:39pm

    Jann Wenner steps in it. Define articulate.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jann-wenner-rolling-stone-rock-and-roll-h...


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 09/17/2023 - 9:23pm

    he's a cancelled boomer fer sure, throw him on the pyre, nobody will care laugh


    by artappraiser on Sun, 09/17/2023 - 11:46pm

    Haha, it's hard not to have schadenfreude; here's a much more scholarly anti-racist prof. at BU basically calling Kendi (and buddies) a grifter. It's like he's been waiting to seize the day!.I'd be really surprised if Kendi doesn't get taken down. An academic like this doesn't risk this kind of thing unless the odds are good.

    Will the more arrogant grifter, Miz Hannah Nikole Jones, be next? Stay tuned.


    by artappraiser on Mon, 09/18/2023 - 8:26pm

    Canceled!


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/19/2023 - 1:34pm

    When culture-wars fads take over:


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/19/2023 - 4:50pm

    Oh the humanity!?


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/19/2023 - 10:26pm

    Making sure UK chil'ren be learnin' what skin color is on top of the world?


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/19/2023 - 10:30pm

    Texas teacher fired after assigning an illustrated Anne Frank book

    The graphic novel adaptation released in 2018 is faithful to the original text in Anne Frank's diary. 


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/19/2023 - 11:32pm

    The Guardian "digs in" - little girl describes folded skin down there, shocking, who knew the clitoris existed? I was told it was a myth.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/02/anne-franks-diary-...


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 09/20/2023 - 6:53am

    “If those backing the social justice agenda could have everything they wanted, what would the country look like?”

    Thomas Sowell: We’d be killing each other. pic.twitter.com/Z0g3JEGx6A

    — Thomas Sowell Quotes (@ThomasSowell) September 19, 2023

    My interview with Thomas Sowell will drop on Sunday , the publication date of his new book, "Social Justice Fallacies." (Correct. At 93, Tom has written a new book.)

    A glimpse: pic.twitter.com/1UyU8b7o4B

    — Peter Robinson (@p_m_robinson) September 13, 2023


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/19/2023 - 11:57pm

    Another accusation of grifting:


    by artappraiser on Fri, 09/22/2023 - 2:59am


    by artappraiser on Fri, 09/22/2023 - 6:06pm

    But doesn't that mean the hustle peaked somewhere 2020-2022, for Kendi, BLM (and it's leader with the houses), defund police, etc? Who high up Dem is doing Kente cloth those days? Even student loan offer was quite hedged. The pronoun thing seems to have fallen off, I think the shared bathroom thing & some trans sports participation is more disputed, including from Dems, no? I see less Tankie retweets these days...


    by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 09/23/2023 - 6:52am

    You are judging national WHILE is still very strong on local levels i.e. San Francisco city council...actually A LOT of city councils, and they were that way before 2020,what happened in 2020 just confirmed what they believed and made them way stronger. It is a terrible problem I know it from Milwaukee - local 'liberal' Dems are Kendi types for decades. They are actually the reason Clinton did a Sister Souljah! They shut up and sit down when Clinton types are in power and come back vocal and stronger when something like 2020 support happens.

    Democratic PARTY leaders have to do "Sister Souljah's" in order to win majority everywhere. Voters on social media, especially Independents or independent types are not the same thing!!! Democratic party has to make clear they do not support "The Squad" types, they have to make CLEAR that Cori Bush or Jamaal Bowman or Ilhan Omar are NOT part of their coalition!

    Because there more very loud activists just like them getting lots of attention in all the big cities at local levels. They get ID'd as Democrats unless the national party disavows them publically loudly and nationally!!!

    That's your choice, or you can have things like the Dallas mayor giving up and switching parties. You cannot have both if you're a partisan, you wlll lose the quiet independent votes!


    by artappraiser on Sat, 09/23/2023 - 5:24pm

    Right, like Dem leaders need to speak out against Menendez, except when the do theyre still accused of supporting Mendendez. The Sista Souljah channel isn't very sharp & focused anymore.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 09/24/2023 - 1:34pm


    by artappraiser on Sat, 09/23/2023 - 5:25pm

    UGH! The horror:


    by artappraiser on Sun, 09/24/2023 - 11:01pm


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/26/2023 - 1:53pm

    Charles Murray in reply to an anthropologist's complaint about an actual cancellation:


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/26/2023 - 3:19pm


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/26/2023 - 7:20pm

    another way tp read Yascha Mounk's whole Twitter thread


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/26/2023 - 7:35pm

    another real cancellation:


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/26/2023 - 7:55pm


    by artappraiser on Tue, 09/26/2023 - 9:22pm


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 09/28/2023 - 8:46am

    Carl's two cents:


    by artappraiser on Thu, 09/28/2023 - 11:19am

    "Your voices were heard, but other voices were hearder."


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 09/28/2023 - 1:02pm


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    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/03/2023 - 7:50am

    Appeals court goes woke

    “Laufer’s feelings of frustration, humiliation, and second-class citizenry [are] ‘downstream consequences’ and ‘adverse effects’ of the informational injury she experienced,” the appeals court said.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/scotus-oral-arguments-ada-tester-case_n_6...


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 9:30am

    HUH?!?!? I'm kinda disabled now myself and have always been sympathetic to the cause. BUT THIS kind of boggles--sounds more like a racket to me!

    Laufer is a self-appointed ADA tester, which means that she goes on to hotel websites and reservation systems to see whether they have information available on the establishment’s accessibility features, per ADA requirements, and pursues legal action against them if they are not in compliance — regardless of whether she intends to visit.

    Laufer has filed over 600 lawsuits against hotels and chains alleging that their websites were insufficient in providing information about the hotel’s accessibility features. In the case presented to the Supreme Court, Laufer did not visit the hotel operated by Acheson Hotels or have any plans to do so.


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 2:40pm

    Yeah, purty kray-kray.

    Victimhood makes a good career apparently.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/04/2023 - 3:37pm

    Pamela Paul

    Pamela Paul became an Opinion columnist for The New York Times in 2022. She was previously the editor of The New York Times Book Review for nine years, where she oversaw book coverage and hosted the Book Review podcast. She is the author of eight books: “100 Things We’ve Lost to the Internet” (named a best book of 2021 by The Chicago Tribune), “My Life With Bob,” “How to Raise a Reader,” “By the Book,” “Parenting, Inc.,” “Pornified” (a best book of 2005 by The San Francisco Chronicle), “The Starter Marriage and the Future of Matrimony” (a best book of 2002 by The Washington Post) and “Rectangle Time,” a book for children.


    by artappraiser on Fri, 10/06/2023 - 3:26pm


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    by artappraiser on Sat, 10/07/2023 - 11:14pm

    Very proud to see my Rep., an openly gay Dem of afro-latino heritage, do a "Sister Souljah" of the NYC-DSA:

    ("The Squad" is openly supportive of the DSA; and his NY state colleagues A.O.C. & Jamaal Bowman are actual members,as are Rashida Tlaib & Cori Bush.)


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 4:29pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 4:33pm

    continued > read, including the comments


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 7:39pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 7:40pm

    more from Ritchie Torres:


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 7:42pm

    A 'Woke' alternative from New York State Assemblymember for District 36. Housing, Justice, & Energy for All. Socialist. #RotiAndRoses

    Much less he has no business making a formal statement on foreign policy - that's another thing that wokees like to do.

     


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 7:49pm

    The 'progressive' NYC Controller also basically doing a "Sister Souljah"


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 8:59pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 10:12pm

    Argh, he caught you - Harvard must have 10,000 clubs and orgs, and so 31 groups - perhaps 2/3 with Muslim in their name, plus some from (Muslim) Indian & SE Asian (Malay & Indonesian?) supported this crass statement.

    But hey, what's wrong with Harvard?

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 1:28am

    “And as you might have seen, there was some sort of rave or desert party where they were having a great time, until the resistance came in electrified hang gliders and took at least several dozen hipsters” Speeches held at the ‘All Out For Palestine’ protest outside the Israeli… pic.twitter.com/JXLpPIvW6A

    — Brendan Gutenschwager (@BGOnTheScene) October 8, 2023

    edit to add, BTW this is info. on the concert

     


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 10:49pm

    quoting:


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 12:20am

    Haaretz:


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 1:32am

    That argument strikes me as making excuses for terrorist attacks on Americans because: Trump.


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:10am

    Unfortunately for The Woke educators, Texas is increasing enrollment for Blacks and Latinos in advanced math by using standardized tests:


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/08/2023 - 9:08pm

    The change in American leftist culture from the McCarthy era (happened to rewatch the movie 'Trumbo' the other night, which reminded me) to something now that is seen as antisemite (whether they like it or not, that has happened. it's definitely a thing) is kind of astonishing. Just one strong example:


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 5:30am

    Well, "both sides ism" of "maybe both sides should be able to live with peace, security and opportunity" invariably is seen as an attack on 1 tribe or the other.

    People not trying to solved an entrenched problem isn't really an excuse just to blame the other - it's a call to finally do something.

    Northern Ireland largely got solved - but neither side was left eating shit nor running for cover.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 8:16am

    His bold statement strikes me hard as mostly true and the sad part for me is that I think much of this propagandistic thought has heavily infected Humanities departments in academia:

    Fraudulent, dishonest, bogus, propaganda concepts:

    Standpoint Theory
    Intersectionality
    Decolonization
    Social Justice
    Queer Theory
    Privilege
    Group Identity by Color or Region
    Reparations
    Mansplaining
    Systemic Racism
    Conflict Theory
    Liberation Theory
    Critical Race Theory

    — David Krae ~ PublicEnemy#246011111 (@DavidKrae) October 9, 2023

    to the point where if one doesn't study, write and teach in one of these areas, one doesn't get hired much less get tenure.Will the affected/afflicted students eventually rebel? If so, it will take a long time and not necessarily be healthy, either!


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:04pm

    Very on point:


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:05pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 3:41pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:13pm

    If Hamas and Hezbollah didn't exist, Bibi would have to invent them so the Israelis have reason to vote in nuttier and nuttier right wing mitherfuckers as an excuse to do nothing about peace and keep fucking with people.

    Here's the road situation in the West Bank - how are people supposed to move forward, do successful businesses, have a life?

    https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/fact-sheet-m...

    In 1800 there were 240k Arabs in Palestine, Jews were 1/35 that. By 1890 Jews were 1/10th Arabs, 1914 1/6, slight decrease up to WWII, then by 1947 Jews were 1/2 Arabs. 

    The West Bank proceeds similarly, under Bibi's direction

    From 2012 to 2022, the population of Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, had grown from 520,000 to over 700,000.  These settlers lived illegally in 279 Israeli settlements across the occupied West Bank, including 14 settlements in the occupied East Jerusalem, with a total population of more than 229,000 people.  At least 147 of these settlements were outposts, illegal even under Israeli domestic law. 

    The report documented a correlation between the expansion of outposts and settler attacks against Palestinians.  During the past decade, the United Nations had verified 3,372 violent incidents by settlers, injuring 1,222 Palestinians.  Last year, settler violence reached the highest levels ever recorded by the United Nations.  Israel had failed to investigate and prosecute crimes against Palestinians committed by settlers and Israeli forces. 

    Mr. Volkmann said the current Israeli plan to double the settler population on the Syrian Golan by 2027, and increase the number of Israeli settlements on the occupied Syrian Golan from 34 to 36 was unprecedented.  The seizure of lands for Israeli settlements, military zones, nature reserves and commercial activities limited the Syrian’s population’s access to land and water, in violation of their rights to adequate housing, food and health. 

    [I don't know how exactly to assess the "violent incidents" as short of murders but still harassing...? Or significantly throwing off life...]


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 10:32pm

    Why do you keep arguing the logic that umpteem negotiators about fairness and the like have used and failed with over many decades? AS IF both parties are going to listen this time?They're not. They both want to chase the other guys out. To the sea. 

    The Jews were chased out of tons of places over millenia via pogroms and other methods and finally a holocaust. The powers-that-be of the international community, after WWII (winners get to rule!), decided to give the Zionists what they long wanted.

    Clearly, after this, the powers that be still overwhelmingly agree Israel should exist there.

    So Palestinians turn to be chased out. (Some already left and went to Detroit. Didja hear?)

    It is what it is.It's not always 'fair". Irish got chased out of Ireland by a famine, Pilgrims gave up everything to try a start in a new world on land we are now to believe was 'owned' by indigenous at the time, many gave up farmiing in the bread basket of the Austro-Hungarian empire c.1900 to try out things in America. None of them EVER WHINED ABOUT LEAVING BEHIND GRANDPA'S TREE, and didn't wave 100-yr. old deeds to two acres in Hungary in the air 

    Sometimes you get to be the indigeous and sometimes you gotta leave the fucking tree behind, sometimes 'they' burn your house, sometimes you leave your country because someone like Putin stays in power and invades Ukraine, is the way the cookie crumbles.

    Myself, I'd be pleased as punch if NO ONE ANYWHERE was considered 'indigenous'. Where we are all temporary owners of property on this globe. You yourself don't live where you were born, why should they?

    (That goes without even mentioning that many Arabs have a notoriously nomadic culture going way back. As for the Muslim thing, the come from allover the world for Hajj to Saudi Arabia; most of them don't live there.)


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 1:48am

    Uh, Irish still live in Ireland from what I saw 

    Yes, sane Iranians still want to go back to Ithe old Iran, sane Afghanis still want to the briefly sane Afghanistan, same Vietnam...

    But it's be n a while since 1 ethnic group rolled another and the international community just agreed, let that group become a downtrodden minority for a callous majoriy. It'd almost be as if I was concerned enough about the Albanians in Yugoslavia or Rohingya in Myanmar or Uyghurs in China to do something (hint: maybe I did, obviously not completely successful efforts)


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 2:00am

    P.S. Where the fuck was Ruthenia and where did it go? My grandma and her cousin told the log clerk at Ellis Island they were current citizens of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.but of Ruthenian ethnicity.(Apparently she never told her any of 7 American-born kids that,think it just didn't matter.) Her later husband 5 years earlier told them he was a current citizen of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.but of Polish ethnicity. THEY WERE BOTH FROM THE SAME LITTLE TOWN 90 miles from Lviv. (At times it belonged to Ukraine and Russia too.) Poland came back, Ruthenia never did. The way the cookie crumbles


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 2:08am

    Ridiculous propaganda - some Palestinians were bedouins in the time of Mohammed, 1400 years ago *in the Arabian desert*.(the areas of Palestine we're talking about are in the Levant, very different culture and terrain)

    https://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story414.html

    350k Arabs werent just walking around Palestine under the Ottomans in 1820, note 659k in 1920 - they mostly lived in small villages, as they had for hundreds of years under Ottoman occupation.

    As the Ottoman census records show Palestine was widely inhabited in the late 19th and early 20th century, especially in the rural areas where agriculture was the main profession.

    That the Arab Palestinians got some slight independence from Turkish occupiers after 500+ years only to lose it again 25 years later may be cause for some sympathy.

    It is conceivable that agriculture and Palestine in general went into steep decline in the late 1700s, though revamping the agricultural system was designed to promote more productive individual ownership than group - rather forward thinking for 19th century Ottomans:

    https://www.historiaagraria.com/FILE/articulos/48leah.pdf

    Palestine under the Ottomans 1744

    Most of Palestine's population, estimated to be around 200,000 in the early years of Ottoman rule, lived in villages. The largest cities were Gaza, Safad and Jerusalem, each with a population of around 5,000–6,000.[410]

    Ottoman property administration consisted of a system of fiefs called timar and trusts called waqf. Timar lands were distributed by the sultan to various officers and officials, particularly from the elite sipahi units. A timar was a source of income for its holder, who was responsible for maintaining order and enforcing the law in the timar. Waqf land was owned by various individuals and its revenues were dedicated to religious functions and institutions, social welfare and individual beneficiaries. Over 60% of cultivated land in the Jerusalem Sanjak was waqf land. To a lesser extent, there was also privately owned land predominantly located within villages and their immediate vicinity.[410]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 2:59am

    Interesting reading the different parts of the Palestinian history under Ottomans including oeasants revolt of 1834, Egyptian occupations, etc.

    Restoration of Ottoman control (from Egyptians)

    In common usage from 1840 onward, "Palestine" was used either to describe the consular jurisdictions of the Western powers[494] or for a region that extended in the north–south direction typically from Rafah (south-east of Gaza) to the Litani River (now in Lebanon). The western boundary was the sea, and the eastern boundary was the poorly defined place where the Syrian desert began. In various European sources, the eastern boundary was placed anywhere from the Jordan River to slightly east of Amman. The Negev Desert was not included.[495] 


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 3:21am

    Erdogan of course suggests everything was dandier under the Ottoman Empire


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 2:49pm

    I do know that Mark Twain, for one, heartily disagreed that things were dandier under the Ottoman Empire in 1860's, he thought they were pretty nasty (loathing might be a good word to describe his attitude towards Turks; note he didn't have kind words for Russians either.) He had a lot of influence, too.

    In focusing on Jews living with "Mohammedans' of the time, you are leaving out the massive hatreds and culture wars between CHRISTIANS of the time and "Mohammedans". You are leaving out all the 'fighting' over the 'Holy Lands' that were of great import to educated  and religious European (and American counterparts) at the time. Basically 'Crusades' are still going on, and Christians hate Muslims and definitely vice versa. It's not Jews vs. Muslims, but Christians vs. Muslims. I intuit you have this image of happy cosmpolitan existence - I don't think that's true because you are leaving out the unhappiness of Christians at the time. Christians vs. Muslims are the thing then, not Jews vs. Muslims. (For example, the "white Christian woman slave forced to be in a harem" was one extremely popular meme in the 19th C.)

    See excerpts here

    https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Nov--30---Mark-Twain-s-view-on--Syria--Turkey--Russia--Palestine---Jerusalem---.html?soid=1108762609255&aid=QRZtTzvjb4k


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 3:19pm

    PS/ It's almost like the "white slave' meme is returning with this one

    confirmed here (tho it should be said that it's still depending on family reports)

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/danny-darlington-carolin-bohl-killed-hiding-bunker-gaza-hamas-attacks-b1112254.html

    I think you are underestimating how much most western leaders see this as a culture war between modern secular values and old timey Palestiian Muslim dreams (where such things as barefoot & always pregnant wimmin in the kitchen while the menfolk man the barricades with the bulldozers knocking down Gaza fences are reality.)

    Yes Israel is also a religious state and includes right-wing conservative settlers. But it's one that also includes Tel Aviv, works with the modern world, gets along with neighbors like Egypt and Jordan, and does stuff like this

    Meanwhilte a lot of the smart Palestinians with "agency" have already left for parts like Detroit, leaving behind mostly Palestinians subsisting on welfare donations from wealthy Muslims for generations, so much so that Daniel Patrick Moynihan could write tomes on them, too.

    I just suspect Western powers are just so fed up with them, with the 'Palestine' that's left. Much much more so than like with Haiti, they tried umpteen times to work with them over decades by every U.S. president and many more leaders around the world and what do they get? Basically "Charlie Hebdo" writ large. Nothing much changed in tactics since the 72 Munich Olympics or throwing Leon Klinghoffer off a cruise ship with his wheelchair in the 80's.

    I really do think it's: ENOUGH ALREADY! We're giving up on Palestine and it's backward hopeless world, time to go, begone with you, let Israel wipe you off the map, we're siding with the democratic Zionist modern Israel that the U.N. set up after  WWII.The international bigwigs would have better chances trying Haiti again then pitiful, hopeless tiny Palestine.


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 4:12pm

    From what I understand, there's a lot of racism against those Ethiopian Jews. Not quite the right diaspora.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 7:27pm

    this clarifies what I was trying to say; that I suspect western leaders have decided to go with Israel wiping Gaza off the map because while Israel is very far from a 'perfect western democracy', it's close enough, they'll take it in the face of anti-western, anti-democratic terrorism, while Gaza has proved itself hopeless in that regard over many decades

    I don’t get how many people around the world, particularly Africans, cannot understand that you can have a group that claims to ‘represent you’ but doesn’t actually work in your best interest and acts irresponsibly.

    Not everyone has a ‘perfect western democracy’. https://t.co/HEZHRbo1eQ

    — OA (@Imagineintolife) October 11, 2023

    West Bank remains a different story and on that we haven't really heard enough yet to even guess.

    Edit to add: and Israel is seen as a done deal, no longer in question, it exists, is totally recognized as a sovereign nation and is going to continue. That it has nukes is extra assurance of that. International diplomacy works on the basis of the world you have, not pie-in-the-sky dreams.


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 11:22am

    Diplomats learned that you can't dick around with Islamist terrorism, as those aligned still see it as a war of civilizations coming eventually, and will grab at any chance of their so-called ummah rousing. (A reminder that the Taliban already offered their support soon after the attacks.) Important to watch what Saudi Arabia does now...


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 11:42am

    Mark Twain spent 5 months travelling Europe & Mideast making nasty humorous observations about everyone - biting satire. Don't take it too serious, but he was the most scathing about Muslims, not surprising for a Christian. (even if he was less a believer, his audience required it. Not that Twain spoke Arabic or Turkish or was around long enough to make non-toutist observations 

    Arabs were occupied by the Ottoman Turks who held the major power. So are you referring to occupier transgressions or occupied transgressions, or both? Pull up a reference to mid-1800s Christian vs Muslim relations. I always heard the Caliph was liberal towards "non-believers" - Jews, Christians, whoever, especially in cities like Salonica. Anyway, Palestinians occupied by Turks, their history 1800s & 1900s. Once we get to the Balfour Agreement and British Mandate, Christians are out of the picture anyway.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 7:25pm

    Wasn't defending him, just trying to describe the zeitgeist, more Christians vs. Muslims, with Jews simply a neglible minority.


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 8:26pm

    Right, everyone talks about their own tribe, even his Yanks vs Parisians schtick 


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:35pm

    Here for example, is how the wonderful Ottoman Empire ended up

    ....During what Benny Morris and Dror Ze'evi describe as the ‘thirty-year genocide’, some 4 million Christians were either killed or forcibly removed from Turkey and the adjacent territories of eastern Thrace, Urmia and the southern Caucasus. Whereas Christians comprised 20 per cent of the population in these areas in the late nineteenth century, by 1924 they comprised just 2 per cent (p. 485). It was not only Armenians who were targeted, so were Assyrians, Greeks and other Christians....


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 9:49pm

    Uh, before I go off googling, what percent of this was the well-known Armenian christians, vs a more general anti-christian effort?


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:38pm

    Yeah, se má to be mostly about WWI and afterath up to 1924 as the Ottoman Empire crumbled with Syrian, Greek and Armenian pings to the anti-Christian actions. Somehow I see that during the big mess of war by 30 countries as different than  targeting a particular minority during peacetime. (Various non-Ottiman military action around the Balkans as the locals filled the vacuum by the Ottomans' departure - though Orthodox vs Roman Catholic more, only Albanianwas Muslim, be they didn't participate too much in the struggle)


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:46pm

    Who are you arguing with? MY POINT WAS IT'S NOT THE SAME ANYMORE; it was Christians vs. Muslims; with Jews basically out of the picture.


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 12:52pm

    Well, you post stuff that seems to be flawed, someone wanted to claim a more long-term war against Christians when it seemed to be a WWI/disintegration of the caliphate thing. I kind of dislike distorted Mideast history since it lays groundwork for justifying awful present day policies.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 4:49pm

    suggestion to go argue with these guys:

    Please stop blaming Palestinian failure in building a state on the existence of #Israel. Except for a handful of successful Gulf monarchies and Morocco, the Arabs have not shown any ability to build functioning states over the past millennium. This is what should get many Arabs…

    — Hussain Abdul-Hussain (@hahussain) October 11, 2023

    And the financial incentives from the Islamic Republic to the leaders of militant groups to create chaos plays a role too.

    — Hossein Ghazanfari (@TehranWatcher) October 11, 2023

    The problem is the wahhabi-salafi construct which allows for a sunni theocracy (like afghanistan) or a monarchy and isn’t compatible with modern governance as its stuck in the Middle ages. There is only room for dictators (Pakistan, Egypt, Iraq/Libya) in such society, if it has…

    — Vas Shenoy (@VasShenoy) October 11, 2023

    I'm just saying that I suspect that leaders of 'the west' are fed up trying with Gaza and this is the last straw and they will support Israel getting rid of it. It is what it is. (Furthermore, if Gazans move to Egypt or Jordan, even temporarily, they know they have to 'toe the line'.)


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 4:21pm

    I'm not really arguing that Arab states are functional - I'm mostly noting Palestinians were occupied for hundreds of years with a 20-year Mandate that gave them some hope of self-governing, and then they were essentially occupied by Israelis. Blaming them for being prisoners or not knowing how to govern when they're not really free to govern or act like sovereigns feels a bit spiteful and nasty. Were they inhospitable to Christian tourists in 1860? Oh so sorry. Jews & Christians were about equal numbers in those years, but under an Ottoman government, I'm sure the Xtians fared worse even if at times somewhat enlightened?

    Now with 50% of Gaza kids, I'm sure the reprisals will be fun - blame the children for sins of the fathers? It's in the Bible.


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 4:57pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:14pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/09/2023 - 7:16pm

    For those who want to be up to date on what the elite kids are learnin', ignore his Gaza comment and move on to checking out the info he's gathered on 4 of the wunnerful courses you could be taking at Harvard that are focused on 'decolonization"

     


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 9:23pm

    Shorter version: The Woke are dumb.


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/10/2023 - 11:46pm


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 10:57am


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/11/2023 - 2:35pm

    Bullied into silence about 'nabka'

    Dozens and dozens of Arab friends (Lebanese, Iraqis, Palestinians and Gulfies) are jamming my inboxes with messages saying that they support dismantling Palestinian Hamas and peace with #Israel. These people cannot express their opinions out loud for fear of social shaming,…

    — Hussain Abdul-Hussain (@hahussain) October 11, 2023

    continuation:

    bullying or physical hurt.
    We might not be in the majority, but we are many, and most of us are scared to speak out against Medieval Islamist #Iran and its Hezbollah and Hamas. If we were allowed to speak freely and campaign for our thought, we would not be in the minority anymore. In every country, majority and minority trade places, except for countries  living under the tyranny of political Islam. These try to convince the world that since 1948, Arabs and Muslims have had only one fixerd opinion: That nakba was a disaster that should be reversed (reversal means destroying Israel, like the nakba war was designed to do).


    by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 12:03am

    U.S. Rep. Ritchie Torres, NY-15 (The Bronx) from his personal account:

    Continuation of tweet:

     It projects moral outrage only when blaming Israel as the “root cause” of the violence.

    The DSA, despite the name, is not democratic. It’s despicable, detestable, disgraceful, and disgraced.  The same can be said of anyone who enables them.
     
     

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    Torres is my Rep., newly elected in 2020 with the NY redistricting.

     He's a Dem, Afro-Latino mix heritage, born and bred in the Bronx (not Jewish if you're wondering), openly gay and well educated and well spoken.

    Included in his district is the south Bronx,notoriously one of the poorest Afro-American neighborhoods in the nation (and the birthplace of rap.)

    The poor south Bronx voted for him, this gay fancy-talking young homie, including in the primary,

    NOT A.O.C (NY14 - which only has a very small part of the Bronx now is mostly Queens with lots of immigrants from allover)

    NOR Jamaal Bowman (NY-16 lower Westchester; yes Mr. Fire Alarm, representing including Yonkers and Mt. Vernon with Blacks that have a bit more money than the Bronx-he may lose this time if he keeps up with the defund crap)

    EVEN THO he was not afraid to publicly bash both of them and was very clear that he was pro-Israel, anti-socialism, anti-defund, basically an anti-leftie Dem.

    AND HE'S STILL BASHING HIS CLOSEST COLLEAGUES RIGHT HERE, AGAIN. When he says

    The DSA, despite the name, is not democratic. It’s despicable, detestable, disgraceful, and disgraced.  The same can be said of anyone who enables them.

    HE'S POINTING RIGHT AT A.O.C and Bowman!!! As not only are those his closest House members, THEY ARE TWO OF THE FEW OFFICIAL MEMBERS OF THE D.S.A. who are also House Reps!!! So he's basically calling both of them "despicable, detestable, disgraceful, and disgraced". Kind of amazing, certainly a bit more than a 'Sister Souljah'.


    by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 12:55am

    Yeah, that passive tense does a lot of work here. "Mistakes were made - good enuff? Now, about that siege & damn Jews..."

    Thanedar quit the DSA yesterday (1 of 6 House members), and AOC denounce th rally pretty strongly, in noting Hamas' cruel attacks on civilians in active tense (though I've seen her be more eloquent in other times, but this one at least doesn't water it down or jump into cringe territory)

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4250685-michigan-rep-quits-democratic...


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 4:31am

    Politico NY: ‘Unacceptably devoid of empathy': DSA is facing an internal reckoning on Israel; The Democratic Socialists of America are facing a major inflection point — and identity crisis — over Israel

    Ah, RE: Rep. Jamaal Bowman let his membership lapse. He's thinking about re-election?


    by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 3:59am

    Hmmm a "ruthless and total purge" eh? Sounds suspiciously like Bill Clinton's infamous takedown of Sister Souljah during his campaign.

    The Democratic party knows that becoming the party celebrating the rape and murder of civilians by ethno-religious fanatics intent on genocide is perilous to its electoral prospects.

    They are in a tricky position of having sacralized movements that have long been onboard with… pic.twitter.com/H2NqSYtoFf

    — Wesley Yang (@wesyang) October 12, 2023

     Whatever happened to the D.L.C. anyways? Wokeness is a problem and we all know it


    by artappraiser on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 2:40am

    I think Obama destroyed the DLC to give him total control as he shifted his campaign operation to the real party machine.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 10/12/2023 - 4:27am

    Jew-ISH George Santos has a go at doing outraged cancel culture:

    What just happened in Longworth??? pic.twitter.com/ujKHayt8aT

    — Nolan D. McCaskill (@NolanDMcCaskill) October 13, 2023

    by artappraiser on Fri, 10/13/2023 - 5:41pm

    yeah it's definitely not your typical video done for The Hill laughlaughlaugh

    We need to stage an intervention to get Robby Soave off of Rising before his growing hatred of Briahna Joy Gray results in an on-air murder/suicide https://t.co/12OlxOvZlI

    — Swann Marcus (@SwannMarcus89) October 14, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 4:50am


    by artappraiser on Sat, 10/14/2023 - 8:11pm

    Senator-turned-university-president disses fellow educators for silence

    Ben Sasse condemned Hamas and vowed “to protect our Jewish students.”

    By KELLY GARRITY @Politico.com 10/15/2023 02:20 PM EDT

    University of Florida President Ben Sasse, a former Nebraska senator, criticized other academic leaders around the nation for not publicly condemning the Hamas-led attack on Israel last week.

    “You got so many universities around the country [who] speak about every topic under the sun, Halloween costumes and microaggressions. But somehow in a moment of the most grave grotesque attacks on Jewish people since the Holocaust, they all of a sudden say there’s too much complexity to say anything,” the former Republican senator said during an interview on “Fox News Sunday.”

    In Sasse’s own statement, addressed to Jewish students and alumni at the University of Florida, he forcefully condemned the Oct. 7 Hamas attack and slammed those in “elite academia” inadvertently or explicitly expressing support for Hamas. Sasse also promised to “protect our students” in the event it becomes the site of any “anti-Israel” protests.[....]


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 7:35pm

    also


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:36pm

    And colleges are to denounce the Russian attack on Mariopol, or Chinese taking islands in the South Sea, or something Afghanis did to women or the recent Aussie vote on indigenous rights?

    I thought they were there to educate people to do the right thing.

    Now where's that college announcement re: kidnapped Haitian kids?


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 2:17am


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:44pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:48pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 8:53pm

    Oh boy!


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/15/2023 - 9:41pm

    Yeah, Haiti is just like Palestine. Except its own land, government, free to trade, fertile to raise crops, free 200 years, and a few other subtle differences.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 2:21am


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 2:22am

    God I'm so tired of the hyperbole

    Hamas must be destroyed. Their terrorists struck Israel on Oct. 7 with a profane level of violence unique in world history; they murdered indiscriminately, slaughtered babies, and took hundreds of men, women and children hostage. 

    "unique in world history" - right, Jan.

    Yes, it's a really crappy time to hold a clueless unsympathetic rally for Palestinians.

    But it's also awful to promote the killing of 1200 people as the worst event of it's sort in history, considering the Rape of Nanking, Kristallnacht, the horrors of the Congo war that killed 5 million and introduced rape gangs, Catherine did Medicis circular execution pikes... the atrocities committed against indigenous people everywhere (in Tasmania the settlers joined arms and walked across the island killing any natives they found; the cleansing of the Argentinian and Chilean natives is perverse stuff of their epic poems. Worse than the Trojan Horse or the Turks knocking at the gates of Vienna? All the war action in France? Cromwell's atrocities in Ireland and Scotland?

    PS - I'm none too happy with the unnecessary decapitated babies lie, similar but worse than the "babies pulled off incubators" used to help justify Gulf War I (which really didn't need justifying). There was enough Hamas cruelty to deserve dsgust and response without making shit up, which only makes people out other stuff that actually did happen. Is we learning yet?


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 5:04am

    He's tweet quoting my "absolute favorite" House Rep., woke-as-hell, diehard BLM supporter, fist-rasing fuhever D.S.A. member, ACAB Squad member, justice warrior against the great worldwide white supremacist conspiracy and other stuff like that:


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/16/2023 - 10:47pm

    Khomeini did something same and larger when he took over, wiping out the resistance.

    So how does that justify treating all Palestinians as Hamas enablers and co-conspirators? Many are victims of both Hamas and Israelis and the Brits who slow-walked them into this over decades.

    "Don't treat Arabs like children", but literally half of the Gazan population is children, born after the actual Israeli peace architects of the 90s died.

    So if Israel removes Hamas, will they also stop building illegal settlements and help at least allow Palestine to build a real representative government and functional economy? Or is it to remain an open air prison with more rubble and no hope except the hope that the locals will just somehow disappear?

    Yes, a ceasefire with no plan seems dumb. But we also did a stupid unplanned occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11 that could have been done much more effectively without the rush and over-ootimism and neocon posturing. Hussein defends this effort, but it was hugely wasteful, costly in lives and 20 years and horrid PR and positioning for the US in the Mideast. Careful which wise pundits arrive in the scene. "I was a refugee in Lebanon, so it's ok for everyone to be a refugee w/o water it electricity". Ignoring the many who didn't make it.


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 1:03am

    Very good wide backgrounder on Palestinian situation

    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/15/opinions/israel-misunderstood-hamas-k...


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/17/2023 - 1:54am


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 2:51pm

    I agree! (Guess Starbucks workers who happen to disagree are supposed to quit the Union? What would an extremly pro-union President say?)


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/22/2023 - 7:49pm

    Absolutely disgusting; deserves to be cancelled

     


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 2:11pm

    The attack refutes the flawed assumption that all social-justice causes fit neatly together.

    By Helen Lewis @ TheAtantic.com Updated at 8:15 ET a.m. on October 13, 2023

    The terror attack on Israel by Hamas has been a divisive—if clarifying—moment for the left. The test that it presented was simple: Can you condemn the slaughter of civilians, in massacres that now appear to have been calculatedly sadistic and outrageous, without equivocation or whataboutism? Can you lay down, for a moment, your legitimate criticisms of Benjamin Netanyahu’s government, West Bank settlements, and the conditions in Gaza, and express horror at the mass murder of civilians?

    In corners of academia and social-justice activism where the identity of the oppressor and the oppressed are never in doubt, many people failed that test. In response to a fellow progressive who argued that targeting civilians is always wrong, the Yale professor Zareena Grewal replied: “Settlers are not civilians. This is not hard.” (She has since locked her X account.) Chicago’s Black Lives Matter chapter posted a picture of a paraglider, referencing the gunmen who descended on civilians at a music festival near the Gaza border from the air. (The chapter said in a statement that “we aren’t proud” of the post, which was later deleted.) Harvard student groups posted a letter stating that its signatories “hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence.” (Several of the named groups have since withdrawn their endorsement.)

    The New York branch of the Democratic Socialists of America promoted a rally where protesters chanted “resistance is justified when people are occupied” and one participant displayed a swastika. These actions prompted criticism by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, perhaps the DSA’s most prominent figure, and the resignation of members including the comedian Sarah Silverman. In a statement, the New York City Democratic Socialists regretted the “confusion” that its rhetoric had caused, but added: “We are also concerned that some have chosen to focus on a rally while ignoring the root causes of violence in the region, the far-right Netanyahu government’s escalating human rights violations and explicitly genocidal rhetoric, and the dehumanization of the Palestinian people.”

    In the United Kingdom, where I live, a journalist for the hard-left outlet Novara, Rivkah Brown, tweeted that “the struggle for freedom is rarely bloodless and we shouldn’t apologise for it.” (She has since deleted the post, saying she responded “too quickly and in a moment of heightened emotion.”) Ellie Gomersall, the president of the National Union of Students in Scotland, apologized for reposting content justifying Hamas’s actions. Two days earlier, Gomersall had accused the British Labour Party leader Keir Starmer of being “complicit in the deaths of … trans people” for saying that “a woman is a female adult.” Got that? A politician with an essentialist view of womanhood is complicit in the deaths of innocents, but a terrorist indiscriminately murdering people at a music festival must be understood in context.

    In the fevered world of social media, progressive activists have often sought to discredit hateful statements and unjust policies by describing them as “violence,” even “genocide.” This tendency seems grotesque if the same activists are not prepared to criticize Hamas, a group whose founding charter is explicitly genocidal: “The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees.”

    Many of those making inflammatory statements come from what’s sometimes known as the “intersectional left.” This tendency is strongly influenced by the academic disciplines of queer theory and critical race theory, and by the postcolonial idea of the “subaltern,” or marginalized class. Like woke, intersectionality has become a boo-word for the right—but unlike woke, it is a label that some activists proudly embrace, particularly academics and young feminists.

    I will go to my grave defending the original conception of intersectionality, a legal doctrine advanced by the American critical race theorist Kimberlé Crenshaw. She made the useful observation that civil-rights legislation has usually treated protected characteristics such as sex and race as discrete, when in fact they are often interlinked. One of her examples was a St. Louis car plant that, for many years, hired white women and Black men but never Black women. Even after management stopped discriminating, Black women always ranked low on the seniority list and therefore were especially vulnerable to layoffs. Yet how could they sue when they were not subject to racism or sexism per se, but an intersection of the two?

    However, Crenshaw herself has expressed surprise at how the meaning of intersectionality has changed through its invocation in pop culture. “This is what happens when an idea travels beyond the context and the content,” she told Vox in 2019. In escaping from the academy into the mainstream, intersectionality morphed into both a crude tallying of oppression points and an assumption that social-justice struggles fit neatly together—with all of the marginalized people on one side and the powerful on the other.

    That’s how you end up with Queers for Palestine when being queer in Palestine is difficult and dangerous. (In 2016, a Hamas commander was executed after being accused of theft and gay sex.) It’s also how you end up with candidates for Labour Party leadership signing a pledge that insists there “is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights,” even when—as in the eligibility rules for women’s sports—some wins for one group plainly come at the expense of the other. The pop version of intersectionality cannot deal with the complexity of real human life, where we can all be, in Jean-Paul Sartre’s phrase, “half-victims, half-accomplices, like everyone else.” In fact, you can support the Palestinian cause without excusing acts of terrorism committed by Hamas. You can question Israel’s military response without excusing acts of terrorism committed by Hamas. In fact, maintaining the principle that targeting civilians is wrong gives you the moral authority to criticize any Israeli response that creates a humanitarian crisis.

    Fitting Israel into the intersectional framework has always been difficult, because its Jewish citizens are both historically oppressed—the survivors of an attempt to wipe them out entirely—and currently in a dominant position over the Palestinians, as demonstrated by the Netanyahu government’s decision to restrict power and water supplies to Gaza. The simplistic logic of pop intersectionality cannot reconcile this, and the subject caused schisms within the left long before Saturday’s attacks. In 2017, Linda Sarsour, one of the organizers of the Women’s March, told The Nation that Zionism and feminism were incompatible: “It just doesn’t make any sense for someone to say, ‘Is there room for people who support the state of Israel and do not criticize it in the movement?’ There can’t be in feminism.” In January 2018, several pro-Palestinian groups boycotted a Women’s March because it featured the actor Scarlett Johansson, who once made an ad for an Israeli company that has a factory in the West Bank. On the other side, Jewish groups condemned three of the Women’s March organizers, including Sarsour, for associating with the openly anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

    The leftist belief in the righteousness of “punching up,” a derivation of standpoint theory, is also important here. Again, this idea has mutated from the reasonable observation that different groups have different knowledge based on their experience—I have never experienced being pulled over by a traffic cop as a Black man, and that limits my understanding of the police—to the idea that different rules apply to you depending on your social position. When an oppressed group uses violence against the oppressor, that is justified “resistance.” Many of us accept a mild version of this proposition: The British suffragettes turned to window smashing and bombing after deciding that letter writing and marches were useless, and history now remembers them as heroines. But somehow, in the case of the incursion from Gaza into Israel, the idea of “punching up” was extended to the murder of children. I simply cannot comprehend how any self-proclaimed feminist can watch footage of armed militants manhandling a woman whose pants are soaked with what looks like blood and decide that she has the power in that situation—and deserves her fate.

    The sheer number of apologies and climbdowns that followed the initial wave of inflammatory posts suggests that some of their authors issued knee-jerk statements of solidarity before they understood exactly what they were endorsing. As the full extent of the weekend’s barbarity becomes clear, some on the intersectional left are—to their small credit—revising their initial reactions. But others are doubling down. Confronted with real violence by genocidal terrorists, they failed the test.

     
    Helen Lewis is a staff writer at The Atlantic.
     

    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 2:36pm


    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/23/2023 - 9:19pm

    The lesbian club at Columbia, “LionLez,” says “Zionists aren’t invited” to their upcoming movie night, says “only white Jews are allowed to live in Israel” and says “white Jewish people are today and always have been the oppressors of all brown people.” pic.twitter.com/clnXTDBqpJ

    — Blake Flayton (@blakeflayton) October 24, 2023

    Wondering, of course, how Hamas would deal with Black Lesbian movie nights.

    Edit to add this p.s.:forget Hamas, even just Kanye wink


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 6:16pm

    Too late - I'm already on my way to a 3rd intiada sash and sleaze film in my head


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 1:38am


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    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 7:04pm

    dupe deleted, see below


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 11:21pm

    Hmmm, whaddaya know, go figure! Black and hispanic dependents of D.O. D.  employees must not *really* be black or hispanic (white adjacent oreos or something like that?)

    The dereliction of duty of public K-12 schools counts as systemic racism if anything does.

    In contrast, Defense Dept "schools had the highest outcomes in the country for Black and Hispanic students, whose 8th-grade reading scores outpaced nat'l averages for white students." pic.twitter.com/K50qZ6ILvR

    — Jake (@omni_american) October 24, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/24/2023 - 11:20pm

    Fully *get* taking college protest antics with a grain of salt, BUT this is both RIDICULOUS and horrifyingsurprise


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 12:11am

    Asian Studies???


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 3:36am

    I believe he was a signatory to 'The Harper's letter'


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 3:39am


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 2:24pm

    What planet am I on? How did it come to be that any student not certifiably mentally ill would even think of demanding some of these things from a university?


    by artappraiser on Wed, 10/25/2023 - 8:12pm

    Oops, there's that genocide word again. Somehow 2.1 million Gazans remain - Israelis are crap at this.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 10/26/2023 - 12:57am

    chanting one of pp's favorite words:


    by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 12:32pm

    More on words (I agree that 'terrorism' should still be used)


    by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 4:03pm

    Of course terrorism should be used there - the attacks were meant to terroize at least Israel, more likely Jews everywhere. But if you use genocide for 2000 people, how do you express the horror of the Killing Fields with 1 million dead, 600k Tutsis slaughtered, tribes in the Americas hunted to extinction or nearly so. Isn't it grossly misleading & disrespectful to confuse a terrorist attack that kills 2000 with an organized pogrom that killed 6 million?


    by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 5:56pm


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    by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 4:07pm

    Exactly, he has pegged this! In my experience most New Yorkers don't like public protests of any kind for any reason! Take it to a licensed rally in a venue like a park or hall or even better, take it to the internet. Don't ruin quality of life for others with your fucking issues, you convince no one and may even be counterproductive.


    by artappraiser on Fri, 10/27/2023 - 9:47pm

    Student Groups at Hunter Call for Firing of Israeli Performance Artist After ‘Dear Hamas’ Video

    BY SHANTI ESCALANTE-DE MATTE @ArtNews.com, October 27, 2023 11:29am

    [....] Ben-Tor is known for performing a range of “despicable stock characters,” as New York Times critic Ken Johnson wrote in a 2012 review, including Jews and other identities. In Johnson’s words, “It emerges that the real targets of Ms. Ben-Tor’s satire are not particular deluded people but academic institutions that embrace and support ludicrous ideas in the name of open inquiry.” Ben-Tor’s work has been generally well received by critics, and her art is in the collections of the Whitney Museum of American Art, the Perez Art Museum Miami, and the Israel Museum, among others. 

    Yet her latest video has provoked a different reaction at New York’s Hunter College, where she is an adjunct professor. Several days after Ben-Tor posted the video, two student groups, Palestine Solidarity Alliance of Hunter College and CUNY for Palestine, published an edited version to Instagram that began with text calling the artist a “Zionist” and demanding her “immediate dismissal.” 

    “We refuse to be in an academic setting with a professor who references animals as she mocks our martyred children,” read text on the video, which has since been taken down by Instagram.[....]


    by artappraiser on Sat, 10/28/2023 - 10:16am


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    by artappraiser on Sat, 10/28/2023 - 2:08pm

    Sure sounds and looks exactly like the same Brooklyn leftie brats as the 2020 protests; just throw a keffiyah scarf on your head or neck:

    The NYPD ordered extra officers to report to the swelling crowd on their day off, police sources said.

    The rambunctious protesters took out their ire on the patrol cars, leaving some of the vehicles damaged and at least two graffitied as they marched toward Lower Manhattan.

    The protesters also mocked the cops, drawing “F—k NYPD” on the dusty windows of parked buses.

    from 7,000 pro-Palestinian protesters take over Brooklyn Bridge, call for elimination of Jewish state: ‘By any means’

    @ NYPost.com, Updated Oct. 28, 2023, 9:00 p.m. ET

    by artappraiser on Sat, 10/28/2023 - 10:47pm

    The DSA is organizing against me—in the wrong Congressional District!
    The Chase Bank at 5581 Broadway is in the neighboring district, not mine.

    The DSA is a bunch of trust-fund babies and hipsters that knows nothing about the Bronx and has never won a race in the Bronx… https://t.co/v5FI6v9rHo

    — Ritchie Torres (@RitchieTorres) October 29, 2023

    continued

     precisely because it knows nothing. 

    The appeal of DSA is confined to white gentrifiers.  Communities of color have no use for it.


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 2:39am


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    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 1:15pm

    ^ 'Wokeness' is still very real in high school and college and that's not a joke, Just because right-wingers react against it doesn't make this situation less dire for western society..(Actually, the polarizing effect may be one of its most dangerous features.) Young people often change their attitudes as they age, but I wouldn't count on that rectifying things. Not if you want to live in a decent world (see Orwell for a few examples.) I can take it more lightly only because I'll be dead.


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 1:29pm

    p.s. fighting the woke tide in education can work; it's just that the non-crazies don't offen talk a lot, like this person happens to, but I do think many of them are silently watching and listening


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 1:38pm

    Cherwiinksy is an extremely logical and mild-mannerned (some might describe him as 'meek') expert on constitutional law and federal civil procedure. He used to appear a lot on cable news talk shows before and during the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Back then he famously avoided all heated politcal rhetoric and arguments and always referred to procedural law, like a judge would. That he is saying this is quite shocking


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 8:17pm

    ^ again, 'woke' is still very real and quite dangerous, it's not something that Donald Trump is making up (His shtick still resounds with many in the 'heartland' because they are sick and tired of being dissed by the 'politically correct' educated elite coastals.)


    by artappraiser on Sun, 10/29/2023 - 8:28pm

    Full version

    https://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2023/10/erwin-chemerinsky-noth...


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 12:20am


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    by artappraiser on Mon, 10/30/2023 - 12:46pm

    This is a flat out lie.
    Her Father, Errol Bush, was the mayor of Northwoods Missouri and currently serves as an alderman.

    People think she’s this outsider who organically came up from nothing when politics is in her bloodline.

    Outsiders don’t even know who she truly is. https://t.co/jYg4mrKNlp pic.twitter.com/rM3fesAlWE

    Terry Lee Watkins Jr. (@TerryWatkinsJr1) October 31, 2023

    She literally sits in DC to vote No, nothing more or less, while getting a 175k a year yax payer salary. MO 1 should ask for better representation Scratch that, they should demand it

    — John Coleman (@MrNCFinest32) October 31, 2023

    Most of her money comes from Justice Dems, an out of state PAC that’s going broke and is cynically using this latest crisis to grift off of

    — Building Back Betterer (@DmitrysPlane) October 31, 2023

    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 1:05am

    Why My Generation Hates Jews

    My peers have been indoctrinated to believe that Jews are oppressors. And so even our mass slaughter is seen as justifiable revenge.


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 9:54am


    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 12:47pm

    In 2021, a riot broke out at the Town Hall in Ava, NY, population 700. When the Brooklyn-based organization Black Womens' Blueprint purchased an old Air Force installation there, they had intended to start a black women's detox center at the site.

    But the townfolk revolted.
    1/3 pic.twitter.com/joawFt5gbN

    — (@shagbark_hick) October 31, 2023

    Co-Executive Director Farah Tanis had moved to Boonville, which is 99.2% White, to develop the new facility. "I'm your new neighbor," she said, to which a voice in the crowd outside the Town Hall said "unfortunately."

    Their permit was denied earlier this year.
    2/ pic.twitter.com/jlZTFrbAJF

    — (@shagbark_hick) October 31, 2023

    This story seems to demonstrate an axiomatic principle: Coming into small, homogenous, ultra-conservative towns with intent to establish a satellite of metropolitan culture is exceptionally difficult.

    Whatever you think of these provincials, they seem nearly un-gentrifiable.
    3/3 pic.twitter.com/gJ28X4X1T7

    — (@shagbark_hick) October 31, 2023

    by artappraiser on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 5:46pm

    "Ultraconservative"? Cuz they objected to this confrontational facility?


    by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 10/31/2023 - 8:34pm

    Liberals and progressives are supposed to be YIMBY about such things.


    by artappraiser on Wed, 11/01/2023 - 1:09am


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    by artappraiser on Wed, 11/01/2023 - 9:36am

    surprise


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    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/02/2023 - 12:02pm

    Cancel culture and encouraing censorship is REAL and it's not right wing (you want numbers? he's got 55,000). Denial is not a river in Egypt:

    Free speech is in trouble

    Young liberals are abandoning it — and other groups are too comfortable with tit-for-tat hypocrisy

      NOV 2, 2023

    [....] And in surveying more than 55,000 undergraduates, the poll provides a look at student opinion across all sorts of colleges and universities — not just from the loudest or most privileged students at elite institutions.

    Although I’ve seen a lot of media coverage about the FIRE survey, I’d never really dug into the details. I’m not sure exactly what I was expecting to see. But given my own political philosophy, I can tell you what I was hoping for: robust student support for free speech — perhaps in contrast to the often lukewarm support it receives among university administrators. Unfortunately, that’s not what the survey found. Here’s what it says instead:

    College students aren’t very enthusiastic about free speech. In particular, that’s true for liberal or left-wing students, who are at best inconsistent in their support of free speech and have very little tolerance for controversial speech they disagree with.

    Moreover, this attitude is broad-based — not just at elite schools. I was frankly surprised at how tepid student support was. A significant minority of students don’t even have much tolerance for controversial speech on positions they presumably agree with. There are partial exceptions at some schools — including my alma mater, the University of Chicago — suggesting the attitudes of professors and administrators play some role in trickling down to students. But this looks like a major generational shift from when college campuses were hotbeds of advocacy for free speech, particularly on the left.

    Students have low tolerance for even mildly controversial speakers

    The College Pulse/FIRE survey asks a long battery of questions, but many of them are focused on student perceptions about university administrators and not what they think about free speech themselves. Other questions ask about efforts to disrupt controversial speech — for instance, by shouting down a speaker. In these cases, there can be competing interpretations of what constitutes free speech — i.e. the students might say they are exercising free speech by disrupting the speaker — so these aren’t straightforward to interpret.

    However, another set of questions directly asks students about their tolerance for controversial speech with no competing speech interest — specifically, whether a student group should be allowed to invite a speaker on campus. The exact wording of these questions is this: [....]


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/03/2023 - 2:47am


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/03/2023 - 3:02am

    Maher - one thing that's VERY CLEAR - THE WRITERS ARE BACK! This is both very biting and has quite a few good jokes:

     


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/04/2023 - 6:24am

    Giving them the benefit of the doubt they are unable to imagine what it would be like if they themselves were abducted by terrorists; they take for granted that they are safe. No one in their families is likely to be abducted. No sympathy even for children. https://t.co/4tgUvgwc0M

    — Joyce Carol Oates (@JoyceCarolOates) November 4, 2023

    What the killer for me is that when he first confronts them they keep saying "it's not your business'. That's just crazy! Of course it's his business, as he put up the sign! And apparently it wasn't even one of the popular worldwide agitprop posters showing hostages, rather it was announcing a vigil for them that he was involved with planning. Really, an announcement for a vigil, WTF?


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/04/2023 - 9:27pm

    Rapper Macklemore has done some research the last 3 weeks, so:


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/04/2023 - 9:32pm

    Chasing down endorsements

    The "tastes great/less filling" political debate lumbers on


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 11/05/2023 - 12:55am


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/05/2023 - 8:35pm

    Of course a big anti-Muslim racism program announcement shouldn't be controversial a few weeks after a Muslim-led slaughter. I think Kamala has impeccable timing.


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    by artappraiser on Wed, 11/08/2023 - 7:51pm

    BLACK MASCOTS FOR A RED REVOLUTION

    Exploring the ways in which black Americans have been the targets of Marxist rhetoric. We frequently hear commentators blame universities but this has been going on in high schools for decades. 1/13 pic.twitter.com/qnqeuNOzAY

    — Free Black Thought (@FreeBlckThought) November 9, 2023

    (13-tweet thread with lots of good citations)


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/09/2023 - 1:20am

    meanwhile


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/09/2023 - 10:00pm

    Read the whole thing to get an inkling of what 'the woke' movement has done to college arts education:


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/09/2023 - 10:43pm

    P.S. related:


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/09/2023 - 10:46pm

    EXCELLENT POINT!:


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/10/2023 - 12:38am

    loudly told him to stop hijacking Ukrainian event- 10 Jews  and 5 Ukrainians came up to me to thank me for telling him off for making the event about himself.


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/10/2023 - 3:05am


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    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/10/2023 - 12:16pm

    amazingly similar to a scene from D.C. in January 2021, but this one is, after all, just located at a large train station:


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/10/2023 - 10:38pm

    oh boy they also be protesting 'genocide' at 'Colonizer Columbus' Circle

    Why o why don't they just stay in Brooklyn. Well, dirty little NYC 'secret' they undoubtedly know > the WEST side of the park, right above Columbus circle, is the side of the park where 'the Jews' with money congregated because they couldn't get accepted to live in the tonier east-side-of-the-park buildings. (The artsy freelance crowd followed them, as diid places like Lincoln Center, which the upper class UES WASPS only visited when slumming.)


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 1:55am

    The flip side of 20-sec Twitter expertise is ppl who've been digesting propaganda for years to regurgitate self-righteously & misleadingly in whatever thread. Yes, both Palestinian and Zionist cant.

    And then there are ppl who''re just pissed.

    And then there's the 8 billion ppl who live outside this land of 10 mill (3/4 Jewish, 1/4 Arabic) and struggling Arabic neighbors of 5 million, who surely ave seen incidents of 7mill Sudanese displaced recently, Russian invasion of Ukraine being held off, yet more riots and unrest in Haiti, China imprisoning 1mill Uyghurs in workcamps, more horrors in Congo, presumably continuation of war in Yemen, return of Afghanistan to medieval conditions, women in Iran struggling to be allowed to walk around w/o sacks on their heads, Russia using chemical weapons in Syria (ad painful elimination of brutal ISIS), and a host of other horrible conditions that I guess require some bestial act of inhumanity to finally get te world to give a shit and take notice (but it won't).

    Che Guevara chic/social media marketing has this one miles ahead if the others. Yes, moving 1mill Gazans is horrible, like moving 7mill Sudanese, but those Gazans or their supporters could've perhaps he'd some more protests for peaceful compromise and resolution to this decades-old issue, and not allow the status quo of supporting terrorists with no peace intention in sight.

    Nobel winner Guzmão of E. Timor accepted that the world was probably right in not accepting his band of merry Marxist terrorists' methods until they came up with a better, more peaceful approach. The status quo from Hamas and Hezbollah has been a fairly steady launch of rockets that largely don't kill but keep ppl afraid and nervous, along with every 3-4 years another Hamas atrocity that draws Israeli reprisals, and then we start over Utah the hole goddamned debate. Can't anyone come up with an imperfect but doable Perez-Rabin-like path to peace for a fucking change?


    by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 2:17am

    "Zionist" holds such negative connotations, but compared to brutal invasions involving mass slaughter and invasions, a "we need a safe space for our 8million demonized people, so let's pool our money and buy up old haunts to have our old neighborhood back" is a historically hugely mild approach. Yes, it wasn't much allied by the then current tenants and their own colonialist landlords - Brit, Ottoman, other Arab sheiks and caliphs - partly due to that same demonization with its NIMBY knee jerk reactions. No one wanted Mexican fruit pickers or Vietnamese along the Gulf coast, or Italians in New York, or Chinese out west, or blacks in the South, or wanted them enough to exploit, not tolerate. 

    Horrid tales of European powers in Africa (Belgian Congo, etc). And then there's the Israeli Jewish arc, which aside from Begin's WWII terrorists (mostly sticking to military targets), the flare-ups seem each time as much the Palestinian masters overplaying their hand and getting burnt by the response. "Teacher, we tried to get all the Arab neighbors to invade, and the Israelis fought back, waah!" Hardly a rallying cry to support the oppressed, even tho there are indeed victims and oppressed.

    Oh well, maybe we solve this in 100 years.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 2:39am

    The Vatican been cancel-cuturaling in one direction or another for a long time; it's part of their program:

    Pope forcibly removes a leading US conservative, Texas bishop Strickland (from @AP) - bye bigots! https://t.co/xWsQrbJlHe

    — TO Antifascist/ Shit Disturber (@TOAntifaAvenger) November 11, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 3:14pm

    How not to win friends and influence people.
    It's not just the one guy; it's the cheering crowd. https://t.co/yh1SlIKICE

    — Peter Moskos (@PeterMoskos) November 11, 2023


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 3:31pm

    This tweet strikes me hard as mostly true:

    There's a reason all the western leaders said "we stand with Israel" at the start of this.

    If you're the type to minimize the effect of the lefty 'woke' as a joke while taking seriously and even fearing the Trumpy riight, I just wanna say: "do you feel lucky punk?"

    I'll be dead before the full results are known, so I can joke, but in both cases western civliization could die.

    One thing I'm sure is true: let terrorists win and what you'll get is: more terrorism. (They can't compete at conventional military combat, so it only makes sense that is what they''ll do.)


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 6:39pm

    BINGO! That's exactly it:

    Nothing says "we want peace in Gaza" quite like a mob that hides its face kicking in the doors of NYC's Grand Central Station. pic.twitter.com/H1J6fhSUJa

    — Aviva Klompas (@AvivaKlompas) November 11, 2023

    There they are again: the 'lynch' MOB that Gustav Le Bon wrote about way back in 1895 and which most of the major 20th C. dictators used.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crowd:_A_Study_of_the_Popular_Mind


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 6:51pm

    anti-woke Afro-American history (she wasn't going to wait for the gummint to make good on that 'forty acres and a mule' promise, nor for women to get the vote for that matter)

    In 1898, Eliza Grier-an emancipated slave -became the first black woman with a license to practice medicine in Georgia.

    To afford the cost of a medical education at Woman's Medical College of Pennsylvania, Grier alternated each year of school with a year of picking cotton. pic.twitter.com/z9aw0zImwE

    — AFRICAN & BLACK HISTORY (@AfricanArchives) November 10, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/11/2023 - 8:00pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/12/2023 - 1:05am

    Sometimes it really does seem like 'The Woke' (and the reaction against them) are going to kill the democratic west and soon.

    http://dagblog.com/comment/328844#comment-328844


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/12/2023 - 8:59am

    If they can't wipe 'The West' off the face of the earth, they're at least going to go to their grave tryiing:

    And hey, let's hear it for ethnic cleansing of whypipple?...


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/12/2023 - 4:20pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/12/2023 - 10:12am


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/12/2023 - 10:15am

    Angry fire & brimstone preacher as an alternative to Trump or Biden, OH BOY!


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/12/2023 - 7:05pm

    Looks 100% counterproductive, even worse than the more violent protests (and clueless as usual)

    The Bay Bridge is SHUT DOWN

    Biden will not get away with genocide, Biden will not get away with staying in San Francisco without EVERYONE knowing he is supporting the slaughter in Gaza

    No more genocide, ceasefire NOW pic.twitter.com/iQWWevwclA

    — Ariel Koren (@ariel_koko) November 16, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/16/2023 - 1:41pm

    Hope they don't find out about Uyghurs in Xinjiang - they'd shut down all the Chinese import companies for sure.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 11/16/2023 - 4:09pm


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/17/2023 - 11:03pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/16/2023 - 2:16pm


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/16/2023 - 2:26pm

    "Scenes from the Atlanta Forest" blog

    https://scenes.noblogs.org/

     


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/16/2023 - 10:43pm


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/17/2023 - 1:57pm


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/17/2023 - 7:06pm

    Dejas vus Geo. Floyd protests allover again/


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/17/2023 - 7:18pm


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/17/2023 - 7:27pm

    Someone told them "Penn" is short for "Palestinienn". Just wait til they hear Rockefeller was a Soros-like internationalst Jew - the Plaza's gonna get overrun.

    Guess Occupy Wall Street set the tone for annoying, counterproductive protests. BLM perfected it. More to come.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 11/18/2023 - 4:45am


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/17/2023 - 7:35pm


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/18/2023 - 6:22pm


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/18/2023 - 9:56pm

    In case you still think that I am exaggeratng that The Woke have taken over humanities academia: if it's 'publish or perish', you are going to write stuff like this whether you like it or not -

    "...Published in the @AmsterdamUPress series Gendering the Late Medieval & Early Modern World..."

     


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/18/2023 - 10:16pm

    proudly (whether true or not)


    by artappraiser on Sat, 11/18/2023 - 11:31pm

    What's the Venn Diagram for people who attended the small protests of Xi's visit to the U.S. and people who attended Pro-Palestinian marches?

    *Hint. There is no Venn Diagram. They are separate circles.

    Patiently waiting for the BLM crowd to take a stand against the Chinese…

    — Free Black Thought (@FreeBlckThought) November 19, 2023

    government's ethnic cleansing of muslims

    https://ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/countries/china/chinese-persecution-of-the-uyghurs


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/19/2023 - 12:35am


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/19/2023 - 2:28am


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 11/19/2023 - 2:48pm

    You rhink ir can't be more wack than Trump v The Woke, you might be wrong:


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/19/2023 - 10:54pm

    Students for Justice in Palestine, which was founded at Berkeley, has fueled activism, and, critics say, intimidation and anti-Semitism.

    By Alan Blinder  Nov. 17, 2023 @NYTimes.com

    Alan Blinder reported from Washington, where he met with members of Students for Justice in Palestine’s national steering committee who had gathered for a protest.

    After last month’s attack on Israel by Hamas, Students for Justice in Palestine promoted a “tool kit” for activists that proclaimed “glory to our resistance.” The group has been banned or suspended by Brandeis, Columbia and George Washington University. And it was recently the target of thundering speeches on Capitol Hill and blistered during a Republican presidential debate.

    In the six weeks since Hamas attacked Israel, there may be no college group that has drawn more scrutiny than Students for Justice in Palestine, perhaps the most popular and divisive campus organization championing the Palestinian cause.

    But unlike many national campus groups — whether they are sororities, fraternities, religious or political — Students for Justice in Palestine is by design a loosely connected network of autonomous chapters. There is no national headquarters and no named leader. There is a national student steering committee, but it is anonymous. The group has never registered as a nonprofit, and it has never had to file tax documents.

    One of the people who founded it about 30 years ago, Hatem Bazian, has described the setup as “a symbolic franchise without a franchise fee.”

    That deliberate lack of hierarchy has been crucial to the network’s ascent, allowing chapters to spring up with few obstacles, according to interviews with 20 people and a survey of videos, academic writings, archival news accounts and public records. The network’s constellation of tactics and rhetoric, including theatrical demonstrations with “apartheid walls” and mock Israeli checkpoints, has been replicated on campuses across the country.

    The flat structure, though, has also fueled worries among pro-Israel groups that accuse the network of driving antisemitism on campuses, often with little accountability. A 2016 report from the Cohen Center for Modern Jewish Studies at Brandeis asserted that the presence of a chapter on a campus was “one of the strongest predictors of perceiving a hostile climate toward Israel and Jews.”

    Some critics of the network have gone as far as to raise fears that the student group has illegal financial ties to Hamas, which the U.S. government considers a terrorist organization. But they have not marshaled irrefutable evidence of that, and no prosecutor has ever brought charges against the network.

    Members acknowledge that their tactics can provoke discomfort, but insist that the group’s mission is focused on progressive causes, mainly the plight of Palestinians, and combating ills that include white supremacy and antisemitism. And they believe that the group’s structure is inseparable from its integrity as a student activist movement, which has surged in intensity as the death toll in Gaza — now more than 11,000, according to the authorities there — has increased.

    Three members of the national steering committee said that they had been drawn to the network, which has been closely tied to organizations like Jewish Voice for Peace, because they saw it as a time-tested way to press for sweeping, radical change.

    The committee members, all current or recently graduated students who were interviewed in Washington, spoke on the condition of anonymity because they said they worried for their safety. Some members of the group have had their personal information posted online without their permission.

    “I think this is a moment where my personal feelings don’t matter at all,” said Carrie, a 22-year-old Jewish person from Baltimore and the only steering committee member who agreed to allow part of her name to be published. “My priority is showing up for my Palestinian and Arab comrades.”

    Drawing Headlines

    Although published reports have pegged its founding to 2001, Students for Justice in Palestine actually began in the early 1990s at the University of California, Berkeley, according to Dr. Bazian, one of the founders.

    Apartheid was collapsing in South Africa, he said, and some critics of Pretoria’s policies turned toward the Palestinian cause through the new student group. Other activists — environmentalists, opponents of American intervention in Latin America, critics of the gulf war — joined in, broadening the group’s base.

    Recalling its early days in a speech last month, Dr. Bazian said, “Anyone who wants to organize for Palestine is welcome, as long as you have the principle of centering Palestinian concerns.”

    Some researchers and former members believe the Oslo Peace Accords, which in the 1990s created a foundation for a Middle East peace process, briefly sapped interest in the group. In 2000, as the Second Intifada commenced after the collapse of peace talks, activity increased.

    By the middle of 2001, the Berkeley group was drawing headlines. It pressed unsuccessfully for the university system’s regents to divest from Israel, and it blocked a campus gate to simulate an Israeli checkpoint. Dozens of people were arrested during a protest when students locked most of a campus building’s doors with chains and prevented people from using the remaining entrances, according to an account at the time by a campus publication, The Daily Californian.

    “No justice, no midterm!” went one chant, according to The Mercury News, a newspaper in nearby San Jose, Calif. (Some people, The Daily Californian reported, climbed through windows to try to get to classes.)

    The group’s protests eventually included “apartheid walls” with students, dressed as Palestinian refugees, standing nearby. Members and supporters saw the head-turning demonstrations as ways to puncture press coverage that they regarded as too sympathetic toward Israel.

    But other students and faculty members said the group’s approach heightened polarization. At some point, the group picked up a nickname among critics at Berkeley and elsewhere: “Students for Just Us in Palestine.”

    “The way S.J.P. framed the debate, it was kind of more interested in inflaming emotions, placing the blame, rather than trying to educate others,” said Scott Newman, the president of the Jewish Student Union at Berkeley for the 2000-1 academic year.

    Mr. Newman, who said he did not remember tense protests before the group’s resurgence, described the tactics as “hostile” and recalled a demonstration where someone had a sign bearing three symbols: the Star of David, an equal sign and a swastika. Recalling the approach more than two decades later, he said: “You go to Berkeley, you get used to ordinary political protest. This was not that.”

    He said, though, that Students for Justice in Palestine was effective at drawing attention to its interpretation of events and policy.

    The Sept. 11 terror attacks upended the group’s momentum, but less than a year later, with many American Muslims feeling demonized, chapter members were holding a vigil at Harvard and staging weekly sit-ins at the University of Illinois.

    “It was following in sort of the Berkeley tradition of social action,” said William Youmans, an associate professor at George Washington who was a member of the Berkeley chapter around that time.

    The hugely visible demonstrations in California, he said, allowed the group to expand, even as it remained decentralized, its chapters autonomous.

    Early leaders like Dr. Bazian feared infiltration and disruption, so there was no national chain of command. In an interview, Dr. Bazian, now a lecturer at Berkeley, said that the approach “allows for any campus that sees the principle to initiate a chapter and get going.”

    It was not unusual for universities to help underwrite the groups, as they have often done with registered student organizations. Dr. Youmans remembered that the Berkeley chapter of his era “would survive on funding from the university or the equivalent of bake sales.”

    The sums have not always been princely. In 2013, the University of Tennessee’s chapter received $550. (Organizers of “Sex Week” were awarded $20,000.) Chapters have often seemed closer to broke than flush.

    “The other day, I was like, ‘Why don’t you all make a good banner?’” said Pranav Jani, the faculty adviser to the chapter at Ohio State University, where he is an associate professor. “They were like, ‘Well, we don’t have any money.’”

    In Chicago, the chapter at DePaul University sometimes gets donations of falafel or hummus from local restaurants, according to Laila Farah, the chapter’s faculty adviser and an associate professor at the university.

    Researchers and pro-Israel groups have spent years trying to trace the network’s funding and have been skeptical of the poverty claims. They note that the national group collects donations, but the amount has not been made public. They have also cited the network’s intellectual and financial connections to American Muslims for Palestine, a Virginia group mired in litigation over whether it is an “alter ego” for a disbanded organization linked to Hamas.

    Jonathan Schanzer, senior vice president for research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, an organization that has been critical of Hamas, told Congress in 2016 that American Muslims for Palestine was “arguably the most important sponsor and organizer” for the student group. With that support, he told a House committee this past Wednesday, groups like Students for Justice in Palestine “systematically threaten or intimidate Jewish and pro-Israel students.”

    Dr. Bazian, now the chairman of American Muslims for Palestine’s board, played down its ties to the student group, which he said were generally limited to providing printed materials and offering grants for students to bring in speakers or attend conferences. He said that his group does not have meaningful power over Students for Justice in Palestine.

    The student network’s lack of formal structure has not helped ease concerns. Even after the group developed a national steering committee that helped organize conferences and other resources, critics said, it did not declare itself a nonprofit or formally incorporate.

    The steering committee members recoiled at the notion of coast-to-coast infrastructure, even if it could maybe yield more money and more trust.

    “It would jeopardize the integrity of our movement as a grass-roots one,” Carrie said.

    The steering committee members said that they had no control over campus chapters. The committee, which today has about a dozen members, sees itself as an advisory body, with members saying they offer the local chapters little more than ideas and, from time to time, tools that they can elect to use.

    Among the network’s alumni, the national group can come off as informal.

    “I tried to reach out to them to say, ‘I was involved, and, hey, if you want to talk,’” Dr. Youmans said of a past entreaty. “They never really got back to me.”

    ‘There Are Mistakes Made. There Are Triumphs Made.’

    For years, the notoriety of Students for Justice in Palestine rose after protests at one university or another: an interim suspension at Berkeley after occupying an academic building; at Rutgers, the donning of shirts splattered with red to resemble blood; at George Washington, a dispute over anti-Zionism posters.

    But after the Hamas attacks in October, a five-page “Day of Resistance” tool kit reverberated far beyond campuses.

    Distributed by the national steering committee, the packet included a template for an illustrated advertisement that showed a thicket of protesters beneath a Palestinian flag.

    From above, a paraglider seemed to fly in — widely perceived as a deliberate echo of Hamas’s use of paragliders during its assault on Israel last month.

    “We as Palestinian students in exile are PART of this movement,” the tool kit said, “not in solidarity with this movement.”

    The tool kit cemented the idea for many critics that the group supported Hamas, at least ideologically. The Anti-Defamation League and the Brandeis Center for Human Rights Under Law have accused the network of “celebrating terrorism.”

    Steering committee members declined to discuss the tool kit for this article. But one member, who had recently graduated from a university in Texas, said the group was broadly engaged in a “constant process of trial, error, growth until freedom.”

    “We are working to find the best way for our people to live a life not under siege,” the member said. “And there are mistakes made. There are triumphs made.”

    In Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis’s administration argued that the tool kit amounted to material support for terrorism — defined by law as providing, or conspiring to provide, “property, tangible or intangible, or service” to a foreign terrorist organization — and sought the “deactivation” of two chapters at public universities in the state.

    Legal experts doubted that the proposed ban was legal, and the American Civil Liberties Union and Palestine Legal filed a lawsuit on Thursday.

    During a state university system board meeting on Nov. 9, Chancellor Ray Rodrigues signaled that the state was largely backing down. The campus groups, Mr. Rodrigues said, had “represented to administration that they are not chartered or under the headship of the National Students for Justice in Palestine.”

    The group’s supporters said they were unsurprised by the newest phase of the campaign to discredit the network. Anything else, Dr. Youmans said, “would have been a break from a really rich history.”

    Mr. Newman, the former Jewish Student Union leader at Berkeley, said he was unsurprised that Students for Justice in Palestine remained a force.

    “As long as there’s people willing to listen to one side of the story, groups like S.J.P. will continue to exist,” he said.

    The chapters are still signing up members and still posting on Instagram. The students from the steering committee, though, said they sometimes struggle to grapple with the intense public glare and the weight of events thousands of miles from American campuses.

    “The range of emotions that I’ve been feeling,” a 23-year-old psychology student said, “I didn’t know that this many emotions existed.”

    Stephanie Saul contributed reporting from New York.


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/19/2023 - 11:25pm


    by artappraiser on Sun, 11/19/2023 - 11:37pm

    This is just a jaw-dropping example of how city governments transfer wealth from working residents to staffers of non-profit groups that do nothing but shuffle money while spouting activist rhetoric. Malcom Kyeyune calls this NGO racket "make-work for the PMC." pic.twitter.com/nEm2vX0kfz

    — Leighton 明 Woodhouse (@lwoodhouse) November 19, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Mon, 11/20/2023 - 4:53am


    by artappraiser on Tue, 11/21/2023 - 9:43pm

    Well fuck me, not only have the figured out medieval plagues from 135 exhumed bodies despite not knowing the actual population at the time or whether non-plagurvbutiaos might have other explanations, they've identified the key element if "racism" so we can set off self-flagellating again for the sun's if our distant deceased George & Henry relatives.

    Meanwhile I picked some lint out of my butthole this morning, and pretty sure it's statistically significant if something, just need to work out the why's and wherefores.

    (Didn't prestigious museums used to be better at this cray-cray revelation stuff?)


    by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 11/22/2023 - 12:31am

    Re: Didn't prestigious museums used to be better at this cray-cray revelation stuff?

    USED TO, not likely any more.Reminder: curators are trained in wokeness like everyone else in academia. PLUS they have jobs not just teaching college students, but the general public, so there's extra incentive to propagandize woke.

    My God, some of the museum labels I've seen lately are hair-raising. Some border on openly contemptuous of the works they're "describing." I'll see if I can dig some out and post a few.

    — japecake (@japecake) November 23, 2023

    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/23/2023 - 12:25am

    I kinda knew the answer b4 I askd the question, in case you were wondering.


    by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 11/23/2023 - 9:55am

    3 Ways To Decenter Whiteness In Your Workplace https://t.co/INMFly8P8v

    — Forbes (@Forbes) November 19, 2023


    by artappraiser on Tue, 11/21/2023 - 10:25pm


    by artappraiser on Tue, 11/21/2023 - 10:27pm

    Community notes took this agitprop on


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/23/2023 - 11:53am

    2020 dejas vus allover again, then it was all cops, now it's all Israelis and Jews are bastards. I'm not shy of saying many "Woke" are not very nice people, actually they don't differ that much from Mao's Red Guard:

    It’s so very strange how the “pro Palestine” demonstrators keeps doing these kinds of things…honestly shocking pic.twitter.com/2Jg3xeBGCb

    — Patrick M. Lockwood (@DoctorLockwood) November 24, 2023

     


    by artappraiser on Thu, 11/23/2023 - 7:10pm

    Begs the question: what are they gonna do when they can't blame it on AIPAC?

    ....Fetterman’s chief of staff, Adam Jentleson, who has been critical of AIPAC in the past, has been echoing his boss’ staunch pro-Israel line.

    Jentleson excoriated one of the protestors who visited Fetterman’s office on X, refuting claims that the group had been kicked out by security.

    “[S]orry if this does not fit the narrative but our state director heard these folks out until they had nothing more to say,” Jentleson said. “[T]hen they hung out in the lobby for a while until other tenants complained (we share a building) and they were asked to leave by security. but hey you do you.”

    “[W]hat gets me here is the deception. a hostile reception is sexier, which is why protestors seek to get arrested when they don’t need to,” he added in a subsequent post. “[C]ontrary to that, these folks were listened to by our staff, but then tried to say we “expelled” them. protest all you want, but don’t lie.

    Jentleson said that “folks ignored [J]ohn’s position on israel during the campaign and are now mad at him for it.” 

    Fetterman’s chief of staff, Adam Jentleson, who has been critical of AIPAC in the past, has been echoing his boss’ staunch pro-Israel line.

    Jentleson excoriated one of the protestors who visited Fetterman’s office on X, refuting claims that the group had been kicked out by security.

    “[S]orry if this does not fit the narrative but our state director heard these folks out until they had nothing more to say,” Jentleson said. “[T]hen they hung out in the lobby for a while until other tenants complained (we share a building) and they were asked to leave by security. but hey you do you.”

    “[W]hat gets me here is the deception. a hostile reception is sexier, which is why protestors seek to get arrested when they don’t need to,” he added in a subsequent post. “[C]ontrary to that, these folks were listened to by our staff, but then tried to say we “expelled” them. protest all you want, but don’t lie.

    Jentleson said that “folks ignored [J]ohn’s position on israel during the campaign and are now mad at him for it.” ....


    by artappraiser on Fri, 11/24/2023 - 2:32am

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