MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Woke and Cancel Culture Gone Wild, Chapter II
By artappraiser on Sun, 01/08/2023 - 10:28pm |Chapter I is here: Woke & cancel culture gone wild. It got mysteriously locked to new comments, so I am starting a second thread.
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PP - seriously, I am puzzled how that thread got to be "read only" all of a sudden! I looked everywhere on my end and don't see any switch to turn comments back on. Do.you see anything from your vantage point like a tab on edit?
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/09/2023 - 5:54pm
It was a "damn it's time to start a new one" dick Admin move.
It had rolled onto a 2nd page
BTW, it's ok for me to identify as a woman, but not as Japanese, whatever my connection.
(Gwen Stefani, Allure) funny world out there. Of course Buffalo Bill is one of my heroes, so i shouldn't complain...
https://youtu.be/4XTigkqQFxw
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"If [people are] going to criticize me for being a fan of something beautiful and sharing that, then I just think that doesn't feel right," she told me. "I think it was a beautiful time of creativity… a time of the ping-pong match between Harajuku culture and American culture." She elaborated further: "[It] should be okay to be inspired by other cultures because if we're not allowed then that's dividing people, right?"
It’s a sentiment similar to one Stefani shared with Paper magazine in May 2021, when asked for her current perspective on her "Harajuku Girls": "If we didn't buy and sell and trade our cultures in, we wouldn't have so much beauty, you know? We learn from each other, we share from each other, we grow from each other. And all these rules are just dividing us more and more."
Stefani told me she identifies not just with Japan’s culture, but also with the Hispanic and Latinx communities of Anaheim, California, where she grew up. "The music, the way the girls wore their makeup, the clothes they wore, that was my identity," she said. "Even though I'm an Italian American — Irish or whatever mutt that I am — that's who I became because those were my people, right?" I asked Fariha I. Khan, Ph.D., codirector of the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Pennsylvania, to help clarify the line between inspiration or appreciation and appropriation. "Simply put, cultural appropriation is the use of one group’s customs, material culture, or oral traditions by another group," she said, and raises two important factors to consider: commodification and an unequal power relationship.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 1:42am
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 6:47pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 6:50pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 6:53pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 7:04pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 7:24pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 7:31pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 7:33pm
Arizona social worker faculty leaned how to 'curate' for political effect:
I can only imagine the horrors that go on at that conference
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/10/2023 - 8:47pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 12:44am
edit to add:
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 3:36am
Progressives in Congress absurd:
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 12:59am
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 3:19am
Doh. It's being spun like it's controversial
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 3:43am
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 4:21am
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 5:37pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/11/2023 - 6:00pm
Really going off the deep end in the UK:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/12/2023 - 12:02am
Meanwhile, to be a cis white woman...
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 01/12/2023 - 2:00am
edit to add:
and:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/12/2023 - 3:11pm
and he's trying
but it may be too late:
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/12/2023 - 6:39pm
he's giving up already and instead notes the irony:
(just found out yesterday he called it on The Woke long ago early in 2019 when he was still at Vox)
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/12/2023 - 7:45pm
oops no he's still giving it the old college try:
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 12:46pm
Here's a 52-tweet thread (!!!) splainin why it's a racist dog whistle for right wingers to defend using gas stoves!
I am not going to read it! Maybe it's satire? I don't really give a damn either way.
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/12/2023 - 11:28pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/12/2023 - 11:36pm
Too much thyme on their hands
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 3:28pm
I hear the stoves cause autism and rectal dysfunction. Or was that erectile dysfunction? Or both (gotcha coming and going. Well, not you, obviously, but guys.)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 3:32pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/14/2023 - 3:51pm
it continues..
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 1:24am
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 1:37am
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 1:25pm
What pronoun to use for "you"? You is a pronoun. Maybe du/Sie, tu/vous, sen/siz, ty/wy, ni/nimen...
(in German Sie is both you formal and they, so already got part covered)
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 3:40pm
I can only imagine the nightmares with French, where even like a toaster has a gender...
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 4:04pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/13/2023 - 3:09pm
You'd think nicotine kills and not the tar
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 01/14/2023 - 12:49pm
It really is a delusional moralistic crusade like prohibition. Except nicotine has far fewer health effects than alcohol, it's more like caffeine. While a few real health nuts promote getting off of addiction to caffeine (which admittedly works for a few folks,) most of the medical profession is not on board with that like they are with nicotine. My opinion is it's illogical, irrational, and delusional, plain and simple.
edit to add: My point is to stress that addiction to caffeine is very real, it can take days or weeks to break it. If it's addiction to ingested stimulant substances is what's bothering them, they should be equally against using it as well.
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/14/2023 - 3:27pm
They banned vaping here as well, oh, "the children", ignoring that the kids going back to regular cigarettes will get addicted and many will suffer health probs ND/or death
Nicotine addicti? Who gives a fuck unless it's as bad as gas stoves... (Fill in latest meme)
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 01/14/2023 - 6:08pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/14/2023 - 4:03pm
Woke still going strong in NYC:
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/14/2023 - 5:26pm
A USC office removes 'field' from its curriculum, citing possible racist connotations
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/15/2023 - 12:15pm
Picking cotton for 100 years is bad enough. Having to talk about it for another 165 gets painful.
Meanwhile, this is shit (some) blacks prolly really wanna focus on:
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/16/2023 - 4:41am
hahahahaha, she's great! and daddy is soooo boring! and I just LOVE the 'grownup music' thing! for chrissake,and she's 100% right, rap has been going on forever, rivaling picking cotton, how many decades now? when are young people going to come up with some actual new music, that really is the question! I hated Motown in high school because the majority white jocks liked it and wouldn't recognize rock, now I'd easily settle for something like that! rappers begone, time to go into the history books....
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/16/2023 - 10:59pm
At the same time, when a black guy tries to discuss difficulties in the job market in a nuanced way, *partly* he thinks because of his skin color, the comments section fills up with hostile responses.
Yes, he got his big breakthrough through a diversity program, writing for the freaking "Office". Since he did well there, seeming to get a promotion of some sort, he thought he'd be partially recession-proof. [part of the idea of "diversity" is that some of the people given a chance will hold on & be anchors for future generations. But there's a structural issue that he points out - when funding goes away after 3 years, the studios are structured to cut positions - probably hire another free diversity person rather than start paying the last one full rate - unless truly obvious that they're now competing with the non-minority staff and deciding to cut one of them (which may cost quite a bit more, since non-diversity positions may have some severance associated with it.)
Did he claim the reasons were black hatred? I dont see that - he seems to be pointing out some economic decisions that don't favor minority hires despite the diversity programs. Sure, there can be more as well - one would think a couple years after 2008 the industry might be talking to ex-Office writers without needing to build your own program & hiring scenario. But then structural changes can affect the industry as a whole. Which he admits - so it's not like he's bitter and complaining - he's mostly just describing his experience, lets us take the lessons as we deem fit.
Still, it's worth listening to the guy's story simply because he's not telling some incredibly hostile black-and-white version of things. Reality is often more subtle - only the rarer ones make it to front page, but those are the ones that get attention, whereas more common softer structural issues may not gain the notice. We love us some outrage.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/16/2023 - 6:07am
And here's a takedown of much of Prince Harry's complaints -
unsurprisingly with a guest role by Huffpost in pointing out "racism".
(including it seems to be wrong to point out Meghan & Mum grew up in less-tony Crenshaw of South LA, even while lauding her Suits career. ANyway, the column is pretty great, including defining the deference between media & social media for those who don't know)
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/16/2023 - 6:37am
I think all that's really going on with Prince Harry is that he found out he likes real life (despite being raised in a royal bubble as a character in a narrative) and that the majority of Brits still want to keep their royal family fantasy, and that Americans like and prefer and root for Harry because he prefers their real life. There's a sizable minority of Brits that desire to be Americans, including the long tradition of expat Brits in southern California (Except they try to keep their English accents because they discover many Americans can be charmed by those and they can grift on that. Then there's the early adopter of California life, Brit artist David Hockney, who is way ahead of them - having recently gotten sick and tired of the health nut culture that comes with California, he has absconded to France where he can still smoke cigarettes in public in his old age
)
Anyhow check out the reception Harry got here:
That's basically still the former colony cheering for independence from the old ways.
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/16/2023 - 11:49pm
It's his tabloid appeal for sure. For a couple who say they hate them, they sure seem to be feeding the Enquirer bunch a lot instead of just getting on with living.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 01/17/2023 - 1:23am
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/15/2023 - 1:14pm
this sounds just like Mao's Red Guards. East Germany under Stasi, etc.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/15/2023 - 1:23pm
p.s. yup:
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/15/2023 - 1:26pm
That's part of the lunatic initiation-rite to any fringe or less-than-acceptable movement - how much kray-kray can you make your followers do for the price of admission?
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/16/2023 - 4:42am
Authoritarians the world over are weaponising wokeness.
by Doug Stokes who is Prof & Director of @SSI_Exeter. @LegatumInst Fellow. New book ‘Against Decolonisation: Campus Culture Wars and the Decline of the West’ Polity 2023.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/15/2023 - 2:40pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/15/2023 - 3:37pm
Typical woke lefty New Yorker (grrrr!) living in a fantasy narrative, where they ignore the reality (acknowleged by all political analysts) that Gov.Hochl very much risked losing to a tougher-on-crime competitor -
they just keep slinging their delusional shit about social spending replacing policing and reduce crime, hoping that it will stick, but voters aren't buying and it's not even ever been proven to be true!
It's their constant agitprop is the problem, it costs lives. They deserve all the ridicule in the world, wokeness in this case is extremely detrimental in so many ways!
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/17/2023 - 12:40am
at least it's not Ken Burns at PBS:
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/17/2023 - 1:58am
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/17/2023 - 4:09pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/18/2023 - 1:50am
They're fucking dead. We say "rest in peace" because they usually look calm and unmoving, and maybe for many it's the end of a tough traumaic struggling life. But nothing says powerless like lying flat in your back w/o brain signál, breath or ability to move or speak. So it's a dumb fucking slogan devoid of any real meaning, even metaphorically, unless going up to God for believers*, but God holds all the power there and you just sit around Hoseannaing. , which who knows, may have lota of practice sessions scheduled so you don't even get any rest. Me, I'll be entertaining worms and ants going in and out (unless I'm cremated, so scattered with the wind or waves - feel the power). People be so full of themselves and their bullshit.
*Yes if you're Haitian and believe in a Zombie Apocalypse, perhaps you'll have some scary tho arguably restless power. For non-Haitians, stop it - that's cultural appropriation.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 01/18/2023 - 8:53am
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/19/2023 - 9:17pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/20/2023 - 4:35pm
a win for the sensible! maybe, just maybe, it's not always systemic racism, but a meritocracy:
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/20/2023 - 7:38pm
told ya so starting in March 2021, and I was already way late in recognizing it
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/21/2023 - 5:17pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/21/2023 - 5:48pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/21/2023 - 5:45pm
I thought Power was Joules and kW-hrs.
Still thinking in international units. Maybe kCal/workout for the treadmill type.
Is Perks/purview or Privilege Profile measured in contrete objective terms?
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/22/2023 - 9:38am
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/22/2023 - 4:31pm
Candace Owens thing. Color me surprised.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/23/2023 - 12:28am
Oliver Traldi quote tweeted the following with this added comment appearing non-white gives people power and profit? interesting notion... welcome to the Intellectual Dark Web -
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/23/2023 - 4:06am
Uh, it's Jessica Krug, and Gwen Stefani is 53, hardly getting "power and profit" by coming out as "feeling" Japanese in the youth-focused music market.
And i can understand Japanese digging it anyway - they've been ignored since Deep Purple Made in Japan + "turning Japanese" (a song about masturbation) in favor of Koreans, so having a singer celebrate 4 Japanese fashion-conscious (Tokyo's fashion park) is prolly pretty cool.
The story about Hilaria is a bit strange, but still - if we have women trapped inside men's bodies and demanding to share the ladies'loo, why can't a white woman feel she's half Hispanic, especially if she's not lying on any application, just the horrid crime of "deceiving the public" which perhaps 1/3 or more entertainers do (how's all them changed names? Kid Rock ain't from trailer, he's from pony mansionette Detroit suburb. Etc etc.)
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/04/05/amy-schumers-joke-about-alec-bald...
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 01/23/2023 - 6:12pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/23/2023 - 6:29am
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/23/2023 - 5:12pm
I'm not going to watch this, have had quite enough
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/23/2023 - 11:18pm
I hear Silk is looking for a new partner. Maybe if she changes to Spice this could be a winning duo.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 01/24/2023 - 1:08am
ha ha ha, nice little confab - I love it - a poke in the eye of elite White wokee ACAB's and their smattering of Black pals:
and judging by Twitter trending 'Eric Adams' it's got plenty of them steaming and stewing
This is one exclusionary racial confab I fully endorse.
Lori Lightfoot, of course, couldn't make it.
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/24/2023 - 12:37am
p.s. not lost on his base that he's doing the gas stove thing, too
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/24/2023 - 12:40am
the abolish prisons crew should be made to splain it to her
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/24/2023 - 1:08am
Woke 'defunder' unsuccessful NYC mayoral candidate (also socialist & endorsed by AOC) suggests giving money to Asian-American victims of mass shooting by Asian-American via organizations targeting their (non-white) "race"
The results here should be no surprise to anyone, they certainly aren't a surprise to me
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 6:30pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 6:32pm
this case is all the rage in the UK
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 6:36pm
still raging: #JustSayMen
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 11:29am
Noting more anarchist influence on the left:
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 7:00pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 11:24pm
What is the purpose of tweets like this?
I can just say that for me such tweets have this effect: I don't want anything to do wiith a juanblanco402 type and certainly would question supporting anythng he supports.
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 11:39pm
How about this one? Who is that going to convince? Who is the target audience? Does he imagine a typical swing voter going: hey you know, you're right, the GOP are the real groomers, I'm gonna vote Dem next time!
Edit to add the reply from aptly named "Super Troll"
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 11:48pm
it's: nope. sorry Michelle, not gonna go with it, wanna see if we can go any lower:
by artappraiser on Wed, 01/25/2023 - 11:58pm
Jocelyn here hasn't a clue beyond what her little choir likes and thinks and she's gonna broadcast that:
Hmmm
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 12:20am
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 12:42am
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 12:45am
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 1:17am
talks like a socialist, who knew?
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 11:42am
Still living in 1987 tho?
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 3:35pm
oh boy
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 11:54am
Idunno, man - I've got a pretty happening bridge game scheduled with some attractive ladies (hi, Mom!), not sure if I can pull myself free, but y'@ll go ahead now...
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 11:18am
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 10:01am
betcha this never entered Nikole's mind:
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/31/2023 - 5:58pm
Oh-oh, Darlene will be pissed - hillbillies are from Ozarks & maybe Appalachians. Rednecks are all around the South.
#KnowYourNetflix. Maybe we can start American history with the first Southern migration. (I know I caught a later wave, still waiting for my reparations.)
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 01/31/2023 - 6:16pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 12:15am
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 1:33pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 01/26/2023 - 11:23pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 11:49pm
Sometimes seems if the time off has done him some good
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 12:45am
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 11:31am
Lookie what those outside agitator anti-cop-land anarchists are proudly up the other day
^ note the stated plan: "set this civilization on fire"
> ay all the appropriate anarchist lingo - the laudiing of hostility - and even the proper pronoun, natch!
I found they had were lauding a protest in Milwaukie, Oregon, too
Here is an explanation of why they must do what they are doing
It's the racist hegemon,of course
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 12:51pm
p.s. in Atlanta they are all excited by the potential of some knock-down drag-em-out street fighting with their fellow far-right outside agiitators
Here's the governor's pre-emptive dealing with that:
I think that's actually wise, because they want nothing more than some local police to mob troll into action so they can post more pix of *brutal police* who must be abolished
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 1:00pm
I'm reminded of when I was doing genealogy research, looking at early-20th-century Ellis Island immigration records (to find my grandparents coming from Poland.). I did the magnifier thing wth the log books to check out all the questions they asked each immigrant. In both cases, one of the questions was "Are you an anarchist?" Because even though they were letting nearly everyone in at the time, the U.S. didn't want anarchists, that is one group they closed the doors to.
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 1:20pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 2:39pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 3:21pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 3:31pm
You can identify as a tree, but not Japanese or Hispanic.
(Not sure which arboreal grants or societies there are out there... Can you get a reforestation grant?)
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 2:22am
most Manhattan protests encapsulated:
by artappraiser on Fri, 01/27/2023 - 11:36pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 2:51am
Bree & Jemelle strike while the iron is hot
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 12:19pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 1:46am
Abolish prisons - except for this white guy -
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 12:37pm
Anti-woke gets hair on fire event.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 5:44am
He's got it; in the end it's *the colonialism*.
Which is why for those trying to rationalise *Woke*, everything has to be torn down and built again (see Pol Pot's year zero.) The anarchists are at least consistent, the theory does lead you to blaming western culture since the Renaissance, like the 1619 Project does.
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 3:35pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 6:29pm
Tiffany Caban is Queer. Abolitionist. NYC Council Member repping District 22. Govt account:
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 6:50pm
some great replies
by artappraiser on Sat, 01/28/2023 - 11:51pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 12:26pm
Pretty good, but i think it misses in a few places.
Russia became "serfs overthrowing the Tsars", so earlier imperialism was wiped clean in many minds.
I recall a thick European history book by Norman Davies, and my God, there was a Lithuanian duchy, and Vikings were going thru Novgorod on the way the Caspian Sea, and Poland was huge and influential, and basically that area east of Hungary became more than a black hole save Charge of the Light Brigade. In the West we largely didn't care what the barbarians were doing off in the east - Russians, Turks, Huns, whoever. Britain's sea route from India obviated the need to care about the Silk Road as well - fuck Marco Polo, it's the Suez Canal bitchez.
The Left long had a soft spot for Soviets despite slaughter and neglect of 10s of millions (splitting Poland with Russia, Holodomor, brutality in Crimea, along with earlier Chechen wars...). Fellow travelers indeed, so Stalin & Mao came out "good guys" despite much larger body counts than Hitler. (To be fair, they were leading their populatios from more primitive conditions, but that's hardly comforting to millions in Gulags or starved & tortured or frozen to death. The Weavers were still singing nostalgic socialist songs after Stalin & Hitler's brutal partition of Poland. Arthur Koestler & Eric Blair couldn't dissuade, and needing Stalin as WWII partner to end the war didn't help, and the Iron Curtain large remarked our black hole anyway,, at least our line of indifference.
Communication was always much worse (and communist control didn't help). See "Mr. Jones" for the hard job reporting the Holodomor in the 30s. So again, no news is "good news", especially when spun by the Party Congress.
I also remember Khomeini broadcasting to Iran from Paris - messages full of hope vs the strict and unpious Shah - until the Ayatollah got to Tehran. Revolution theology for the 20th Century was always thus - full of promise, can't fail, can only be failed. The US building new capital markets didn't have the same ring as saving the poor and exploited's downtrodden souls - except 40 years of exploiting East European and Central Asian labor didn't quite save them - 1 step up from Serfdom perhaps. And for a moment, with Yeltsin taking the torch from the abruptly sidelined Gorbachev, it looked like there might be an opening. But a KGB agent soon took over and Yeltsin did too, leaving the ex-Soviet countries still under the guard of their former master. But the CIS like the Soviet Union was an "alliance if equals, of brothers". (an old Communist joke notes 2 kids playing in a sandbox. "Let's share like brothers!" one exclaims. "No! 50-50!" answers the other.
Piercing this propagandist covering has been difficult.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 2:31pm
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 4:50pm
wait a sec - shouldn't he more appropriately be cooking those noodles on an electric stove, and be against using gas stoves? gees, one has to even correct their joke narratives!
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 7:21pm
the anti-Cop-city people in Atlanta are being absurd:
The forest is at least 3,500 acres. Here is a map (link in case it doesn't display)
Plus it's not as if the 380 acres the city has leased - of which only 85 acres is intended for "Cop City" - is pristine untouched forest land. Wikipedia: ....The Old Atlanta Prison Farm was in the forest and a police training facility has been proposed for construction at the site......
Do they want police to be trained or don't they? Well it seems pretty clear to me that the City wants to train police and the anarchists trying to occupy that space want police abolished rather than trained.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 7:14pm
this was retweeted today by
They salivate whenever there's a hint anywhere in the world of 'Nazi's' sniffing around the sites of anarchists shunning civilization for year zero living -. one thing they love is an actual fight with a declared enemy, then it's "bring it on"
In other news in case you haven't kept up with the story, here's CNN's report on the 7 from the Atlanta group being charged with "domestic terrorism" among other things:
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/30/2023 - 9:06pm
Philly citizens(or maybe they are 'outside agitators'?) who don't cotton to civilization:
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 8:04pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 8:07pm
Sorry to have to splain this to Wokees and Kneelers, but sports fans LIKE to hear a national anthem, the more well-done the better, that's just the way it is, best to figure out another way to protest:
I'll go even further and say that after watching the World Cup you should have gotten a clue that it doesn't even matter what country/anthem it is, it's an integral part of the whole spectacle.
by artappraiser on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 8:30pm
To me ths photo is better than the anthem any day - guess Ithis Southern Boy's part of the "coastal elite", but i still like the statue of Liberty too. *And* Lynyrd Skynyrd - "boo, boo, boo..."
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/29/2023 - 11:16pm
Black city, with all the power jobs in its government filled by Blacks, decides it needs to hire more Black police officers even if they're not the best candidates available. What could go wrong?
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/30/2023 - 1:44pm
I didn't know this one, does make me think differently about 'Jack'
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/30/2023 - 5:27pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/30/2023 - 8:25pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 01/30/2023 - 8:45pm
WTF?
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/31/2023 - 4:45am
by artappraiser on Tue, 01/31/2023 - 5:53pm
from the UK:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 1:13am
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 2:10am
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 2:17am
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 3:09pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 4:20pm
Yeah I'm getting sick of this too; hello, traditionally, a magazine or newspaper offers several points of view -
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 6:05pm
More wondering if the term 'faggot' is making a comeback? (Ben's profile)
Like so much of culture of the 70s it had a mixed record. But still more pronounceable and sensicle than some LGBTQ+ mashup.
What would Freddy think?
And then i glide back to Burroughs, "as an old black faggot once told me, 'some people are shits, sweetheart's"
Somehow the words didn't kill us.
And I'm just finding out Sandra Bullock's a transvlgender.
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 7:31pm
This guy wants to see both sides covered, dammit!
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 7:56pm
I agree, this argument is quite common from lefties:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/01/2023 - 7:58pm
Agree:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 12:11am
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 12:23am
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 8:32am
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 6:53pm
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 7:02pm
On AOC's performance art. I imagine those who only follow what liberal Dem political people have to say are reading that it was wonderful and passionate and perhaps yay a Dem finally got a spine, yadda yadda. Well the DKos choir might be happy but among the centrists and normie types I follow, I think it is notable
the kind of thing I am seeing:
every one above has lots of comments/replies on it agreeing. This one had some of the best tho, just plain and simple dislike of her shtick
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 11:07pm
P.S. Prior to opining about AOC, I see Dr. Rose had an amusing and insightful quip about how Nathan J. Robinson gets cancelled:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/02/2023 - 11:20pm
Like a stopped clock, Tracey is correct twice a day:
then there's logic pointing out The Woke Gaslighting;
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/03/2023 - 1:28am
,
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/03/2023 - 1:34am
It's really getting so bad that if I had a college-age kid, I would strongly encourage them to consider Florida and Texas. When only a decade ago, I thought poorly of both state systems. Seriously! At least they'd be getting a baisc classical education there instead of paying to listen to 4 years of woke agitprop. It's really really bad, anyone with real brains in academia will admit that to you off the record.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/03/2023 - 1:41am
A shame blackface fell out of favor - i can see a real market for it about now.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/03/2023 - 5:21am
"It's hard to be what you can't see." - ding ding ding we have a winner, game is called for those with little imagination needing visually perfect feedback to move fwd.
Like MLK's famous "I have a finely detailed visual prototype" speech that inspired billions.
Creativity's dead.
[may be a weird association, but i wonder what effect being raised on visually graphic porn vs fantasies of the senses has on this "have to see to believe" mindset, not that that's the only area of modern culture that this attitude impinges. I had someone tell me he didn't believe in an experimental treatment on another continent, because "if it worked i would have seen it on Facebook." ]
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/03/2023 - 5:34am
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/03/2023 - 1:51pm
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by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 12:13am
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 12:26am
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 1:38am
^ she retweeted this
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 2:00am
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by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 3:42pm
Hah, Nikole got tons of replies on that tweet and I venture 1 of 100 are in her favor. Hopefully she is on the way to cancellation with Blacks that matter, during Black History month, yet. Here's just a sampling:
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 3:53pm
good lord she was hammering away about him not writing significantly on topic! it's like she is clueless. anyone with brains would shuddup already until they can think of a comeback that makes sense!
edit to add: I saw that tweet because Prof. John McWhorter retweeted it. Sorry to have to say it but "clown" really is an accurate epithat for her!
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 7:36pm
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by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 3:45pm
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by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 4:10pm
Tapping into Project Veritas and Jack Posobiec admirers?
Just cuz they're kneejerk "anti-woke" doesn't mean they're your friends.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 4:45pm
i've been a fan of Thomas Chatteron Wiliams since like 2018.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Chatterton_Williams
Chose the replies to his tweet that I liked to post here. Liked the content of the replies I posted and strongly agree with them (some I didn't agree with, those I didn't post here..) Was horrified by everything to do with Geo. Floyd protests and still am (even the peaceful stuff) I think it was grand mal hysteria worldwide that will be in the history books. No apologies, none.
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 5:36pm
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by artappraiser on Sat, 02/04/2023 - 11:11pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/05/2023 - 12:53am
A glimmer of hope in that if they don't get it in school anymore, maybe they get it from like pewdepie
where "1619 Project" et. al. is the shit teachers are cramming down your throat and Aristotle is the new enticing contraband?
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/05/2023 - 1:00pm
While it's a thing to note, getting all outraged about it would be giving them exactly what they want:
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/05/2023 - 2:08pm
Maybe we need a war to get serious.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 02/05/2023 - 5:45pm
Pleased to see two serious Afro-American guys debate!
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/06/2023 - 5:52pm
"Liking" Ted Cruz all the way to the bank! (Outrage can make you money; Chris Stein would know all about that...)
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/06/2023 - 6:34pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/06/2023 - 9:01pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/07/2023 - 12:14am
Partisan narratives!
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/07/2023 - 6:54am
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/07/2023 - 7:54am
his best for last! >
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/07/2023 - 8:26am
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 02/07/2023 - 6:43pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/07/2023 - 7:49pm
Good question:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/07/2023 - 8:18pm
I admit this one made me lol:
I only saw it because Trevor here noted they were *not really* anti-mask:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 2:43am
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 3:03pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 5:02pm
Classic bleeding heart Nicholas Kristof: Inclusive or Alienating? The Language Wars Go On
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/08/2023 - 10:23pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 2:18am
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 3:48pm
Sub-Saharan blacks will make up 1/3 the world's population by 2100, 82 years from now. Will that be enough safe co-identity space?
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/10/2023 - 6:41am
So parents decide they want what they think will be a better life for their kids, by immigrating from Nigerian culture to Canadian culture. But some in the school system decide that's wrong and try to stop the assimilation that the parents wanted, making places where kids can still be Nigerian. In Canada.. Do I have it correct?
My admiration for immigrants who go through the ordeal of actually becoming a citizen of their new nation continues to grow by leaps and bounds.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/10/2023 - 1:46pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 6:55pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 7:06pm
Or maybe this song should be required reading...
https://youtu.be/XRvpGGc9Jv8
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/10/2023 - 6:43am
so inspirational! human civilization soaring to its heights!
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/10/2023 - 1:29pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 8:06pm
Yglesias to Nikole Hannah-Jones:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 8:09pm
^ Why can't a Dem politician do that, what Yglesias just did? Why such tippytoes when it comes to people like her?
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 8:28pm
strikes me as an easy way to make the fantasical creation of a Manichean U.S. of Wokees vs. Rightwing nuts go "poof"
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 8:51pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 8:12pm
^ The syndrome Yang notes in the last tweet is the reason woke lefties need to be "Sister Souljah'ed" by the Democratic party! Voters, especially the most important ones like swings, centrists and split ticketers, want an alternative party that is not extremist! No one in the center bulge asked for two parties where one is the doppelganger of the other!!!
The media does make money from the doppelganger drama queens fighting each other, but if the leaders of one of the big parties refuses to play that game for one team, voters would know there is an alternative where extremists are not pandered to.
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 8:23pm
The pandering to the Woke is not stopping:
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/09/2023 - 9:00pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/10/2023 - 12:25am
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/10/2023 - 12:32am
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/10/2023 - 12:57am
"A Black Professor Trapped in Anti-Racist Hell"
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 3:38am
the first tweet says the account is deleted now, so use this instead:
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 4:04pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 6:06am
interesting that the Trumpster is up to his old social media tricks, bashing pop culture celebs to drum up eyeballs and controversy:
It's actually an old demagoguery trick. And how the Murdoch empire was built, Fleet street etc.
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 3:19pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 5:22pm
"Kathy the Colonizer"
And sorry but I am simply not going to buy this is the work of Russian trolls.It's 100% American woke.
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 6:56pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 7:53pm
Learned a new word. For an old prob
Too much shit going on, just get confused
Polycrisis want a cracker
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/11/2023 - 9:54pm
I agree with using the words "grave harm"and "hysteria" here -
The rest of his Twitter thread posted here on the Crime News thread
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/12/2023 - 2:19am
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 02/12/2023 - 4:25pm
The College Board’s Rocky Path, Through Florida, to the A.P. Black Studies Course
The nonprofit met with Governor DeSantis’s state officials, who asked whether the course was “trying to advance Black Panther thinking.”
By Anemona Hartocollis, Dana Goldstein and Stephanie Saul @NYTimes.com Feb. 13, 2023 Updated 9:10 a.m. ET
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/13/2023 - 1:17pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 02/16/2023 - 3:39am
^ Btw,after reading a considerable amount on topic, put simply, that is exactly what happened. Of course, Desantis didn't defend it that way, on purpose, he plays it up as more consequentiel, as it helps him when he lets the left demagogue him as evil personified.
That's the way he's playing virtually all the culture wars stuff. And anyone who pays attention to Florida politics is fully aware of that. That it's all huff-and-puff-blow-your-house-down stuff. He absolutely does not defend against over-reaction. That's not the game. The more hysterical the national reaction from Woke, the better, especially as normies don't like hysterics. Meanwhile, Floridians approve of the job he's doing in reality.
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/17/2023 - 1:09am
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/17/2023 - 4:05pm
"Can I touch you there?"
The movement's getting tawdry.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 02/17/2023 - 8:06pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/17/2023 - 11:33pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/18/2023 - 12:47am
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/18/2023 - 12:50am
too bizarre:
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/18/2023 - 2:15am
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/18/2023 - 3:44am
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/18/2023 - 1:56pm
is it all Christopher Columbus' fault? just asking
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/18/2023 - 2:45pm
I blame Christopher Walken.
BTW, how many ppl are representing "the Brits"? 12? Small is beautiful
Microsoft has 220k FTEs worldwide. But hey, I'm sure Bill gave them all the attention they deserved. (What's the "murderer" bit? Vaccines?)
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/18/2023 - 5:57pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/19/2023 - 1:01am
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/19/2023 - 1:58am
I remember reading in Readers Digest during the Cultural Revolution these stree scenes, where basically 13-year-olds had become the enforcers of the Revolution, which is a bit what Lol Pot did as well. Young fresh minds, malleable but easily directed and full of enthusiasm. Up against the wall, motherfuckers...
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 02/19/2023 - 3:40am
Who's 'they'? Is Ebony a tool of the White supremacy? Or what? (Ask Lil Nas X, he might be able to 'splain the related 'cultural appropriation' and similar shit?)
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/19/2023 - 8:29pm
Criminy! I doubt making plastic people with DEI training for talk show hosts will get your ratings up!
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 4:19am
useful:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 4:39am
It's like that Dickens book, "It was the worst of times, it was the worst of times..."
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 11:13am
GO ZAID, GO!
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 5:05am
"like a Maoist struggle session"
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 2:31pm
^ see Yoko taught him good! (June 7, 2020)
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 2:39pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 3:20pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 3:31pm
EXACTLY! Mho, is the way virtually all of The Woke's shit works out:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/21/2023 - 9:18pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/22/2023 - 12:31am
Finland Takes Another Look at Youth Gender Medicine
A recent interview with the country’s top gender expert shows how out of step the American medical establishment is with its European counterparts
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/22/2023 - 12:36am
A shred of hope appears at the NYTimes:
^ (Noted that here he's hoping for a Dem political leader willing to publicly do some 'Sister Souljah' moments, like I have been)
^ translation = he's willing to vote for the other guy until someone does!
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/22/2023 - 12:53am
p.s. this is pinned to the top of Yang's Twitter feed; it's one of my favorite tweets:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/22/2023 - 12:56am
Identity politics has infected psychiatry and psychotherapy:
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/22/2023 - 6:37pm
Two words that should frighten The Woke: Vivek Ramaswamy.
by artappraiser on Wed, 02/22/2023 - 6:45pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/24/2023 - 4:12am
Chloe still bravely trying to get The Woke to grow up:
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/24/2023 - 3:57pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/24/2023 - 5:48pm
if this Black dude were a white woman, he'd be called a Karen and the video would be way more viral, perhaps with suggestions of her being MAGA scum feeling entitled to treat Asian immigrants badly:
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/24/2023 - 6:57pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 02/24/2023 - 7:57pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 12:58am
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 1:03am
money quote from his essay
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 1:05am
"Hate the sin, not the sinner", tho some of the "both sides do it" excuse wears thin. Supporting Putin in a major war and supporting pushing your followers to attack the Capitol and overthrow the government is not the same as an argument over pronouns, and likely much of the cancel culture stuff.
[Yes, that Dilbert guy is getting shit because he found 50% of blacks judging whites quite negatively over our skin color in a poll as disconcerting. It's not a call to lynching (yet?) but it's a weird shutdown of whites' permission to judge an arbitrary racist evaluation as racist. Still, blacks with guns are largely killing other blacks, so that racist revolution hasn't begun. Now, iilli didn't see the poll or who fólie it, so it might be bullshit.)
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 7:26am
The Dilbert thing is a good example of why I once said to you: why would you want a large audience, why would you invite that sort of mass harassment? He's already got a large audience from his cartoons.He could shut up and enjoy the income or he can express what he really thinks and invite mob harassment. Same with like Rowling! To cater to a large audience you either wear a muzzle and keep any strong opinions to yourself, or you can chose to really say what you feel and do the dodging slings and arrows from a mob thing for the rest of your life. That kind of 'cancel culture' is always going to exist.
What's related is - the argument against allowing people to post anonymously on the internet. Because most people muzzle themselves one way or another using their real identity. (edit to add: the Dilbert and the Rowling types can risk it and still eat.)
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 1:50pm
I've always felt it important to be honest and post under my real name.
I think my 48 followers appreciate my credentials as a 17th Century religious firebrand,
or an iconic misspelled Greek philosopher. Would I trade it for Scott Addams' masses?
You betcha - i'd have 'em dancing in the aisles speaking in tongues.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 2:40pm
From Moscow on the Hudson to Moscow in Idaho,
that Christian activist nation coming...
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 2:44pm
can you imagine being this obsessed to make this picture and then tweet? I can't
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 3:40pm
by artappraiser on Sat, 02/25/2023 - 4:48pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/26/2023 - 4:14pm
(Dupe of what I just posted on PP's thread because it's such a great example. I'd be surprised to find out that video wasn't produced by White woke folks.)
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/26/2023 - 7:03pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/26/2023 - 7:24pm
what this guy is trying to get across is true
it's why good historians these days decry 'presentism' - presuming humans of another era thought exactly like humans do now, with all the equivalent knowledge
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/26/2023 - 8:39pm
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/26/2023 - 7:30pm
a Brit normie
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/26/2023 - 8:33pm
new James Bond editions will have changes for 'sensitive' readers:
by artappraiser on Sun, 02/26/2023 - 10:31pm
"Pussy Galore" becomes "Kitty Leavemethefuckalone"
Meet *the* Mrs. James Bond:
https://youtu.be/3x_vJRYgYFQ
Tho she was much better in the Avengers
https://youtu.be/ErbBX2IVcvI
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 2:29am
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/01/2023 - 10:32pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 2:57am
see whole thread:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 3:21am
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 5:18am
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 5:37am
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 8:15am
Holy smokes, do I agree with this guy!
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 3:29pm
hightly related:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 5:57pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 3:33pm
He jokes BUT
for Boomers, at least, when you have to give up the gas stove, next stop is the nursing home. I think this is a 'third rail' issue or they wouldn't be stoking it. Hochl is a fool for pushing it in NY state, she did a lot of harm to the whole Dem party brand by doing so.
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 4:25pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 5:43pm
Woke-i-tude on race - he sees an 'intereresting formula' - I just see such bullshit now:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 8:47pm
He sees what lefty editor Jack is doing there:
by artappraiser on Mon, 02/27/2023 - 9:07pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/28/2023 - 1:00am
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/28/2023 - 1:01am
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/01/2023 - 2:31am
Maybe old ppl not so good at shouting, jes saying...
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 03/01/2023 - 1:15pm
More Vivek:
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/28/2023 - 5:09pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 02/28/2023 - 5:41pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 03/01/2023 - 5:55pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/02/2023 - 12:17am
I'm still amazed so many learned the lesson in grade school that "don't you ltry laving this house or I'm going to kick your ass" - yeah, that Lincoln. Who discovered a year and a half into the bloody fight that maybe he was fighting about slavery and not the right to keep northern troops in southern ports. So many have inherited a hate if the south for committing "treason", "traitors" to the Union, even though the colonies had up & left the British union just 85 years before. Of course he didn't emancipate women or give them the right to vote while drawing up 13-15 amendments. And Kentuckians got to keep slaves as did Missourians and Marylanders cuz they didn't secede. Most people don't realize the Union wasn't even using Ft Sumpter, but the other fort in Charleston wasn't as defensible, so they grabbed an abaned one that sat smack dab in the middle of the port. The same people who admire Gandhi and MLK's non-violence will cheer the killing of 300,000 Americans on each side. They'll condemn Russia denying Ukraine's freedom, agree Ukraine had a right to be free in 1990 just like the Slovaks had the right to break up Czechslovakia (Havel didn't attack) and Pakistanis & Dri Lanka/Ceylon had a right to leave free India. And your not allowed to say that the North hated the South for more than slavery - for being obstinate peckerheads, for being Scottish & Irish lowlives and drunks, for being a bunch of backwards illiterate hayseed redneck farmers. Lincoln if course was compromising with madmen on both sides, so i don't envy his choices. And had he lived, he would have presided over the raping of the West, which might have tarnished his image a bit. The sainthood of Lincoln over say FDR simply doesn't make sense. But in any case, I've yet to find anyone who really agrees that the South should've been allowed to leave peacefully if it weren't for the immoral travesty of taking dark humans with them. The EU is a great structure, because Catalonia can leave Spain yet still work within the same peacefully democratic system with open borders. Or a Britain could stupidly leave, yet that was their choice, just like Scotland can rejoin. Freedom to align how you want.
Alright, now I'm ready to hear out Bill Maher on Lincoln. I mean, i wouldn't take down his statue - he stands for a lot of things, somewhat noble in that cracker rural Illinois kind of way.
(cont) ok, we liked Lincoln because of the Gettysburg Address, which came a bit late and the North was lucky they stopped the South there orbit was all over. I guess a good time to free the slaves (in the secessionist states). But what else did Lincoln do besides wage that war, shoot at northerners who protested the draft, and build the Transco tinental railroad (plusy string up fewer Indians than asked in Minnesota)? Granted the South was already seceding before he took oath. But what is it we like so much about Lincoln aside from that 1 speech?
Homeless in glad to get off the street - downtown LA turned into a squalid mess.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 03/02/2023 - 5:05pm
by artappraiser on Thu, 03/02/2023 - 12:27am
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