MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Comments
I share Marshall's disgust with the mealy mouth avoidance of accurate descriptions.
Some of it seems to me to be an effort to keep a bridge open for those in the G.O.P. who won't cross without cover.
by moat on Wed, 05/23/2018 - 8:08pm
Yeah I was struck by this piece too. He really cut through bullshit.
I don't think it's an effort to give cover to moderates; it's just facile, soft-headed journalism--repeatedly applying the same "norm-breaker" frame that was trendy during the election.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 05/23/2018 - 8:54pm
It certainly continues the "soft-headed" journalism already established.
On the other hand, telling it like it is would be branded as partisan warfare.
by moat on Wed, 05/23/2018 - 9:40pm
Anything short of declaring Donald Trump the greatest leader of all time would be branded as partisan warfare.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 05/23/2018 - 10:47pm
The real DJT has made himself clear on this point.
I propose that there is a group of others with more or less enthusiasm to give him the last word.
by moat on Wed, 05/23/2018 - 10:52pm
Who are these others? The only Republicans defending the media in 2018 are Jeff Flake types who acknowledge Trump's corruption. The rest are either too partisan or too chickenshit.
by Michael Wolraich on Wed, 05/23/2018 - 11:29pm
If they weren't cowards, they wouldn't need the special treatment. They also don't want to cross over because that means leaving behind the privileges they gained through Trump. Maybe nobody will cross over.
But if the bridge is closed, they will shrug their shoulders and say they no longer have to explain themselves.
The situation makes many journalists look like negotiators with hostage takers.
by moat on Thu, 05/24/2018 - 9:31am
Any Republican with a spine has already crossed over. The spineless ones will only cross when the fear of staying put overcomes the fear of crossing, and that fear is driven by the voters. If the cowards decide that rejecting and denouncing Trump will gain them more votes than embracing him, they'll do it. So what counts is public opinion, not the opinions of a few weak-kneed moderates. And I don't see how mealy-mouthed journalists failing to tell it like it is wins the battle of public opinion.
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 05/24/2018 - 1:26pm
Great comment because your metaphors are so thought-provoking.
I'm always for not closing bridges. Especially as neither big tent party seems to be able define an overriding ideology anymore.
You might notice that I tend to pick out stories that are pointing to where there are actually ideologies involved; i.e., congresspersons who are driven to focus on certain things they promised their constituencies when campaigning. (Then there's also congresspersons who owe payback to a lobby for those campaign funds, of course.) That tells you where new coalitions might be formed, where something might actually happen, or the converse, something gets stymied.
Furthermore, I am a little sympathetic to hostage negotiator journalist type. In the age of Trump in particular, I don't see any benefit for the populace in journalists amping passions up more with righteous name calling and labeling and outrage. Maybe the guy who is a lying asshole harasser hypocrite in most areas still has some sausage-making use if he believes one or two things unabashedly. I don't need my facts passion-ized, I don't need them to tell me what I should think.
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/24/2018 - 4:32pm
Moat's bridge metaphor earns praise.
Seriously, I thought this was a very good piece from Josh.
by AmericanDreamer on Thu, 05/24/2018 - 9:02pm
Oh, I thought it was "we'll crease those britches when we [censored] in them" or "we'll cross these bitches with a conundrum" or something - never could figure out what it was supposed to mean, but I never met a four I couldn't double into eight, not that it pays to prays them or be pro-voke or anti-voke.
Could be easier if English were my native tung, rather than an object of misuse & abuse.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/25/2018 - 9:09am
I feel it's only right to add to this thread that I do see pushback all the time from the White House media, every day, constantly, and a lot of it, like these tweets just now, easily picked out in a few minutes on twitter:
by artappraiser on Sat, 05/26/2018 - 3:07pm
Yes for the media. Except that I think that a lot of Trump voters who are still with him believe that most politicians profit from their work just like business moguls do. And They bought that a guy who supposedly knew how to play in "the swamp" might be the last best hope for fighting the supposed swamp. Because they think nothing else has worked. So to them, these are norms, they think this kind of thing with corruption and lobbyists et. al. has gone on a long time and nobody fixed it. So to them, it's norms, business as usual for most politicians, and Trump is there because you don't bring a knife to a gun fight. It's not just very low info voters that think like this, there are people who have been around a long time to feed this belief that "they" are all crooked, someone like say, Lou Dobbs. And maybe the only time this type reads a NYTimes article is when a friend sends them something on some crooked congressional lobbying deal, so bias is continually confirmed that there are no honest politicians available, or ones too inept and naive to get more than a knife to fight with.
Cherry picking for bias confirmation has always been a problem and it is just rapidly increasing by leaps and bounds. I see that as more of a problem. It's almost like there are two major groups of voters: those who believe there's a swamp of crooked pols running this country, and those who believe in the political parties general good faith with crooks here and there.
I think this definitely goes across the spectrum, for the people sending Freedom Caucus members to Congress as well as those from the other side sending Liz Warren types, they think the norm is a crooked system.
Of course I do not buy it. But am sympathetic because I know well how the ghosts of Tammany Hall still run rampant in Albany and NYC government and how the very same Trump used that for decades previous. Not to mention: he also has long experience pre-political races playing the pop culture p.r. machine, not just "The Apprentice" but news tabloids and talk radio.
by artappraiser on Thu, 05/24/2018 - 12:41am
But Trump was supposed to be different, wasn't he? A businessman not a politician, against the establishment, doesn't need their money, bla bla bla. So if the skeptics who think all pols are crooked start to see him as just another crooked pol (as opposed to a "norm breaker"), it matters.
by Michael Wolraich on Thu, 05/24/2018 - 1:32pm
Maybe, except people don't like to admit they're wrong.
by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/26/2018 - 3:20pm
by artappraiser on Mon, 05/28/2018 - 1:52am