The Bishop and the Butterfly: Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age
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    AOC is Joan of fucking Arc!

    By jollyroger on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 3:05pm |

     

     

     

     

    Bernie Sanders was resurrected (from real, not virtual, near death...) by her endorsement, and his donations have exploded as reported today (35 Million for 4th Q 2019)

     

    I used to say that she was a political  comet.  That's incorrect.

     

    There has not been an equivalent combination of natural talent, charisma, brilliance of intellect, grasp of strategy , and purity of spirit since the Maid of Orleans.

     

    We are lucky to have her on our side

     

     

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    Oh, and by the way, she can DANCE...

     


    by jollyroger on Thu, 01/02/2020 - 4:23pm

    5 million anonymous donations, roughly $18.50 each - what could go wrong? #RichardPinedo #BerniesRussianSupport

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/indictment-richard-pinedo/story?id=61149146

     

    https://www.salon.com/2019/04/12/new-data-suggests-russians-targeted-ber...


    by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 12:18pm

    from the Salon article, #sad that this could work:

    “#BlackMenForBernie Leader Switches to Trump! I will Never Vote for Hillary, Welcome aboard the Trump Train,” said a tweet by a purported "Southern, Conservative Pro God, Anti Racism" Twitter user from Texas with 72,121 followers that was actually operated from Russia.

    At a certain point, here's the problem with blaming the Russians--anybody American can do this kind of thing too. And no doubt savvier, more subtly and more effectively.


    by artappraiser on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 2:11pm

    Yes, Americans as well as Russians can funnel illegal $18.50 donations through anonymous online accounts. I'm sure that Mueller going nowhere further with Penado's conviction only emboldened them. 


    by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 2:15pm

    here's the problem with blaming the Russians--anybody American can do this kind of thing too.

    Yes, that's the point for me. It's not about the Russians it's about social media in general that's the problem. My hope is that we can start by looking at how the Russians used it to see how it's being used by many different factions. Maybe since it's a foreign influence and a geopolitical foe it's a way into looking more closely at the problem of social media in a way that an American partisan interest sowing disinformation on social media might not.


    by ocean-kat on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 3:12pm

    an example from today of classic anti-Dem Bernie-fan spin:

    In the end: passionate lefties are a legit part of the electorate that have to be dealt with somehow to win a national election.

    Yeah money can buy faux ads but there are actual social media savvy people out there willing to do the same thing out of passion. "Influencers" as far as politics is the same as politics has always been.


    by artappraiser on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 2:45pm

    Nice scare quotes around 'he was "bad"' - wave away Soleimani's terrorist attacks and military incursions in 4 short dashes. Of course if an American did any such thing, they're imperial warmongers. No, under certain conditions he might have been a valid target - just not under arbitrary impeachment-distracting conditions. Where are the Way The Dog journalists now? Oh, taking an early lunch, I see...

     

    [As Marcy Wheeler notes, none of the claims -largely true - pstdate the JPCOA. "I made a deal with Al Capone, but just realized he'd offed a guy 5 years earlier, had to kill him" - this kind of logic. But hey, " he was a bad dude(TM)"

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action


    by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 01/03/2020 - 4:23pm

    Not to mention the convention, (on which, incidentally, W. and Vice rely heavily) that "bad guys" with official cover who [ractice their terrorism on behalf of a government (like,, say, explode a drone over someone else's territory with no pretense of jurisdiction)


    by jollyroger on Sun, 01/05/2020 - 12:10am

    Whoa, buddy - you trampling on American exceptionalism? You could get hurt.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 01/05/2020 - 2:35am

    Offered with no comment:


    by artappraiser on Mon, 01/06/2020 - 2:00pm