Lost Country: How Democrats Lost Rural America

Lost Country: How Democrats Lost Rural America

By Orion on Mon, 05/09/2022 - 4:20pm |

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that was pretty good, thank you.

Not the least of which now I get why I see so many urban political liberals screaming (the "all caps" kind of people mentioned in the vid) on Twitter about how awful Chuck Todd is and how NBC needs to fire him. They probably screamed similarly about Barack Obama and Bill Clinton for "getting" rural people too (as mentioned in the vid.) They don't like to hear Chuck say things they'd like to be in denial about?

by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2022 - 10:32pm

Here's one I'd like to dedicate to dagblog member NCD, even though he's not participating much here anymore:

pls RT/share

Memo To Democrats: It's Not Always About Republicans https://t.co/l2CSsnjw9p
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) May 7, 2022

by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2022 - 10:34pm

I thought about the depressed Dem party locals in the video and their need for support when I saw this about liberal elite donors

Democratic Dollars Flow Once Again to Likely Lost Causes https://t.co/j0VzRkU8Nd
— Thomas Edsall (@Edsall) April 20, 2022

It's like they think their money will somehow magically turn normies into Woke

by artappraiser on Mon, 05/09/2022 - 11:00pm

A $50k national giveaway to millennial/Gen-Z college grads won't go over well.

It's that "anything worth doing is worth overdoing" mantra - "moderate" turned into a slur - "hey, you pussies, come on, swing for the fences". But this ain't baseball - sometimes those fences shouldn't be swung for.

I seem to recall Elizabeth Warren's campaign as one big ticket item after another. The "chicken in every pot" maxim at least had a modest populist ring to it - maybe we should reimburse every homeowner with a high mortgage, car owner with high payments...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/13/student-loan-debt-congress-bide...

by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/14/2022 - 7:19pm

NBC going for the angle that rural America is way more diverse than people think: https://youtu.be/4vgyHIi1xiw

by Orion on Tue, 05/10/2022 - 1:29am

Every day in every way looking to me like Dems will lose Wisconsin.Here's just another "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" thingie:

U.S. Commerce Department's solar panel investigation could delay Wisconsin solar projects or increase prices https://t.co/CKhNzTF5Eh
— Journal Sentinel (@journalsentinel) May 10, 2022

Is remarkably similar to the end of Bill Maher's rant about "I didn't leave the Democratic party, they left me" where he describes going through hell to install a small solar project on his property.

by artappraiser on Tue, 05/10/2022 - 9:42am

p;s. worth mentioning again that Kenosha as of last month has it's first Republican mayor in decades. The rural areas are actually reliably Republican, when Dems lose the cities like Kenosha is when things flip.

by artappraiser on Tue, 05/10/2022 - 9:53am

Can't you buy solar panels off of Amazon? Why should it be that difficult?

by Orion on Wed, 05/11/2022 - 1:03am

The annoying thing about Bill Maher's rant is that his case is a huge outlier, having to do with the distance if his shed to a power pole/property line, plus some disconnect switch.. I can't get an exact clue what could be done to break the impasse, but it seems most can arrange it in 1-2 months. After so many fires in California, I'm not terribly sympathetic about wanting less regulation for installing electric connections, and i also just don't like this shitting on government because rich guy has a corner case and a TV show to bitch about his lack of resolution. Yeah, maybe it seems dumb, maybe it is dumb, but what are the reasons for those regulations, and why exactly can't either side budge to figure this out? (I'm sure the authorities are aware they're a long-running joke on TV)

Description way down in this thread

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/3/25/2022821/-Bill-Maher-s-Solar-Fai...

by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 05/11/2022 - 1:52am

Another, blame Biden for baby food shortage - good campaign fodder

The baby formula shortage is due to Abbott, the nation’s largest formula manufacturer, closing one of its plants amid a recall due to contamination. Four infants who consumed its products were hospitalized with bacterial infections — TWO DIED.

Why won’t the media report that?
— Jon Cooper (@joncoopertweets) May 13, 2022

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 1:39pm

So the FDA p.r. people should be on top of it and make sure the media tells the right story including alternatives and that the real story goes viral while the problem is solved. Instead of allowing righties to demagogue it as a failure of the Biden administration and lefties demagoguing it as systemic racism or warfare against lower class women.

Getting a little tired of "blame the media" trope when it's become very clear that social media is where most people get their info. from, social media and not the NYTimes. It should be more like: blame the p.r. people of the government institution involved. What is it we pay taxes for again?

by artappraiser on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 2:14pm

fail all around:

America is the fact that 3 editors have asked me to write about the formula shortage but I can't do it because of a different crisis, which is that I have no childcare for the same child I also don't have formula for.
— Hillary Kelly (@HillaryKelly) May 12, 2022

it's as serious as water suppy being contaminated and usually authorities can get it across to most people that they need to boil their water or some such. why didn't parents know before they started going insane tryng to get some?

by artappraiser on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 2:23pm

More "blame the media" trope

With all the attention on the market, black hole pics, TWTR takeover noise - we missed they found the cause of SIDs?! The cause of 37% of infant deaths & it just…passed us by. Closest thing to a miracle in a long time. Now for screening & prevention.https://t.co/hk3mDxNygL
— Megan Quinn (@msquinn) May 13, 2022

Narrator: the SIDS biomarker story was all over MSM

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 7:14pm

Blame the Media non-trope?
[yes, this is how 2016 was - amplify anything Trump said, and if the author by any chance wanted to voice disagreement - not a given, often just a half-admiring "that wild & crazy guy" - would bury it down in paragraph 13]

I see Josh Dawsey has dutifully repeated Trump's lies and attacks with no pushback again.

[Annotated]https://t.co/O1L6jkD1Ba pic.twitter.com/SEZF6Br9rA
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) May 17, 2022

by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 05/17/2022 - 7:57am

Our grandparents' dealt with food and various supply rationing all the time.

by Orion on Tue, 05/17/2022 - 6:24pm

Dan Froomkin blames media (or at least some)

https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/new-york-times-kahn/

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 7:50pm

pic.twitter.com/vBMpx7JlEL
— Brook No (@TalexanderSteff) May 13, 2022

There's only one brand of formula even pictured here. It seems clear that there's a severe shortage.
— Hencoughing up Blood (@hencough) May 13, 2022

Because Cons are bad at math - SHORT 40 percent means we still have *60 percent*. Normally we’re short 10 percent. (90 percent full) we’re down 1/3 on formula because one of the three formula companies (1/3) had to shut down a factory due to *metal shavings* in their formula.
— BGood (@MisterBGood) May 13, 2022

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 7:42pm

Oops, ~~Better Middler~~ Bette Midler (I swear I wasn't drunk) steps into wokedom, notes that breastfeeding would help the crisis for those who can, which of course produces uproar. Easier to blame government.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bette-midler-try-breastfeeding-baby-formu...

by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/14/2022 - 7:58pm

as for Bette's gaffe, I think it was a pretty horrific one, I have to rethink my estimation of her as pro-first-wave feminism. what happened to "my body, my choice?" not every woman wants to stay home and be like an on-call dairy cow for a year or more just to have children (I was breast fed -it was all the rage with progressive docs post war as evidenced by the Liz Taylor character in "Father's Little Dividend" but the brothers who came after me were formula babies--enough of that breastfeeding shit-and they are all arguably healthier adults)

the obsession with breast-feeding and the incredible societal pressure for women to do is one very horrible thing of many nanny-state type things that really really aggravate me. Check this out for just one example:

My first ever byline in Slate (4 years ago!) included a link to this lovely chart (which I NEVER miss the chance to repost because it's so enraging that federal government takes food away from people who can't breastfeed). Glad to see WIC getting a bit of heat. They deserve more. pic.twitter.com/eb3qT7zjAA
— Sarah W. Jaffe (she/her) (@Sarahwinifred) May 18, 2022

as far as I am concerned there's little difference here from Bill Maher's rant about solar panel regulation in California or any of mine about the ridiculous excesses of the Democratic machine in NY!!!

I'll go with a libertarian on these kind of issues any day over a big gummint FDR Dem, even if the libertarian types go too far in the liberty direction. A social worker has no idea what I need and i don't want his/her input unless he/she knows how to fill out the paperwork his/her type created so that I can bypass the rules he/she helped create

by artappraiser on Fri, 05/20/2022 - 2:23pm

My take was, it's a crisis - do what you can. If it was a gas shortage, most people (except Republicans) would try to drive less. Years, government should try to help - and people should try to help themselves. It ls not atavistic dog-eat-dog, but not completely bailout either. WWII people followed drives for this or that. Now it's "why won't government take care of every single thing without my effort". Sux to be spoiled and self-absorbed. Guess "do your part" is out of vogue.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/20/2022 - 4:02pm

I've read enough now to be convinced that FDA nanny -state-bureaucracy IS at fault with the baby formula shortage

The White House admits that baby formula being airlifted in from Europe is safe and healthy.

So why weren't American parents allowed to buy those same brands weeks, months, or years ago?https://t.co/Q5HoY4DvRo
— Eric Boehm (@EricBoehm87) May 19, 2022

Why is there no legislation of any kind from either party to reform anything about how the FDA works?

There's been tons of *complaints* about various things coming from various different ideological directions, but members of congress aren't supposed to just post.
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 20, 2022

there are TONS of comments on his thread from people fed up with those wunner big gummint inventions like the FDA and CDC. They are not from conservatives, Here's my selection

see here: https://t.co/CJSH043KPD and here https://t.co/RDeBdIWKkg
— Ryan Enos (@RyanDEnos) May 20, 2022

It's a hard problem to fix legislatively (though impossible otherwise). You're trying to fix a broken organization with 100 years of administrative momentum behind it.
— Steve Nadel (@StevenNadel) May 20, 2022

Closest we came was in 2016 when Thiel almost got Trump to nominate @balajis as FDA Commish. Honestly would have been the best thing to happen to American healthcare
— Mario (@tweet_perricone) May 20, 2022

Because the courts let Congress delegate an absurdly unconstitutional amount of responsibility to regulatory agencies, making it electorally beneficial for congresspersons to avoid ever voting on anything for any reason. Hopefully Gorsuch can convince SCOTUS to fix it.
— Don't blame me. I voted for Kodos. (@DavidCoffin_aR) May 20, 2022

Oh give me a break. Why can't my four year old get vaccinated, again? Why does it take weeks after data is available for the paperweights making decisions at the FDA to meet and make a decision? How many ppl died b/c FDA wouldn't allow anyone but CDC to test for covid early on?
— Parker Conrad (@parkerconrad) May 20, 2022

It’s a real money maker.
— Tom Reeves (@Tom_Reeves_) May 20, 2022

There are a lot of institutions and organizations and companies that like the FDA as disoganized and as sluggish as it is right now. There is a lot of money invested in this mess.

With congress in permanent gridlock this will probably not change in the next decade.
— Esports_areforlosers (@esports4losers) May 20, 2022

From top to bottom, our government fails us on a daily basis. I'm rooting for the J6ers next time.
— MDeanMedic (@68WhiskeyMike6) May 20, 2022

The FDA works the way it does because its purpose is to shield Congress and the president from blame. When the FDA's ridiculous regulations cause harm, the blame falls on their agency. When food poisons ten people, they call their congressperson.
— Erich Luepke (@erich_luepke) May 20, 2022

FDA spreads out the harm evenly across society so that we all pay a good amount to be subjected to regulations that harm us, so that no elected official would have to take any risk or accountability to protect the public interest.
— Erich Luepke (@erich_luepke) May 20, 2022

It has indeed become a horrible bureaucracy run by idiots influenced by big corporations they are friendly with and enemies of others. At times it seems like they are just there to make life difficult for citizens, taking away their favorite supplements or whatever that is really helping them, treating them like children or as if it's still 1915

by artappraiser on Fri, 05/20/2022 - 1:49pm

GOP votes food shortage

Can't abort em, can't feed em*, but "pro-life"

Good to know.

*yes, i agree with Bette Midler where possible, but funding supply improvements would seem to make sense on an issue you're slamming the President over - but these folks just want to own the Dems, not govern or make consistent sense.

192 Republicans vote against $28 million for baby formula shortage pic.twitter.com/7hZv4DUe8p
— Acyn (@Acyn) May 19, 2022

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/19/2022 - 2:46am

old style conservative:

The Senate is designed, among much else, to represent rural interests as well as urban ones. (The representation of the states was killed by amendment.)

This idea that democracy is only about pure majorities is antithetical to the American project. I don't understand it.
— Eric Owens (@ericowensdc) May 12, 2022

by artappraiser on Thu, 05/12/2022 - 12:47am

The Senate was designed to give national voice to state legislatures, of large and small states. The difference between "rural" and "urban" states didn't mean that much to the 1st 13 states - it was about protecting tiny Rhode Island and Delaware, as much a religious-ethnic-philosophic-cultural unit as anything else at that time.

Still it's a shame when the disparities drag out too far, that vast regions of unpopulated geography in some ways have a huge leg up on regions with 10s of millions of people. Maybe shift a Senator from Wyoming to California, but no constitutional mechanism for that.

by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 05/12/2022 - 2:05am

If Supreme Court tilts state elections by rubber stamping gerrymandering and restrictive voting laws, lowers any reason for Dems to compete "50 state push" or many gerrymandered districts. (Yes, sometimes Dems do this too - but let's see the real comparisons including the more outrageous examples, not just bland "both sides do it" in the face of lob sided practices.)

And this includes Alito et al saying "just codify Roe via election" when they've messed with voting rules to keep that from happening - nice little self-service Catch-22 there built.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/samuel-alito-roe-democracy_n_627d144fe4b0...

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 1:30am

Then again, if Dems de-emphasize the other important functions of Planned Parenthood as more extreme activists make them, the pro-abortion screeching will not persuade those it needs to persuade and reach those it needs to reach, as just 1 policy area.

by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 05/13/2022 - 1:54am

Bipartisan means lying down with the guys who tried to fuck you last time, tho with Zelensky their tune has changed for self-serving purposes. If he was. Democrat they'd be willing (and were) to burn down California just to not show support.

Note: It's smart for Zelenskyy to meet with Republican Senators. It's a way to get commitments of continued to support if Republicans take both houses at the midterms.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) May 14, 2022

by PeraclesPlease on Sat, 05/14/2022 - 2:01pm

Another example of government regulations getting in the way of helping ameliorate a problem citizens are experiencing, what a surprise NOT

Could housing factories ever rise again?

The White House wants to change the rules around financing and regulations to make modular and prefabricated homes easier and cheaper to build. Biden's housing plan offers new hope. https://t.co/A1qt9MRiIr pic.twitter.com/jMRBe6YJFM
— ◥◤.@kristoncapps (@kristoncapps) May 20, 2022

wait wait let me guess, we have to regulate how many go to each race and gender, right? and then there's who gets to work in the factories and how much they get paid

by artappraiser on Fri, 05/20/2022 - 2:55pm

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